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and replace him with WHO,e xactly?
I know. We'll just run the anthill formation all game. Hah. That'd be funny (not being sarcastic)
McNair was heard to say, in effect, that Carr's staying and that the Texans are building around him. How do you feel about this?
He'll be here. I'm just hoping for a rookie QB and a vet who can both challenge Carr.
Seriously, they are not going to bring anyone in here to challenge Carr. I think the brass already knows they will beat him out. I can't remember being this depressed in a long time. I've heard the company line and all the blind faith from the front office. I'm just flat out tired of hearing excuses, I want the team to get some wins. I'm tired of walking around the city I love, supporting the teams I love (Texans, Rockets, and Stros), and getting laughed at.
Honestly, how I/we feel as fans is of no consequence. It's David Carr or bust.
McNair was heard to say, in effect, that Carr's staying and that the Texans are building around him. How do you feel about this?
I said don't replace Carr in the offseason.
Reasons:
#1 - We haven't given him a descent O-Line yet, after 5 seasons!!!!
#2 - He finally has a coach that can COACH him.
#3 - We gave him the extension for a reason, Kubiak thinks he can do it.
#4 - Kubiak will continue to improve his game and he will be worth much more in '08 than '07.
#5 - We've invested so much in this guy lets get him a freakin OL next year and see what he's REALLY got.
#6 - There is'nt anyone worth immediately replacing him with.(Kubes needs to draft someone to start molding underneath him for a yr.)
I like David Carr and I just really want to see him suceed.Call me a & pass me a Duff.
Seriously, they are not going to bring anyone in here to challenge Carr. I think the brass already knows they will beat him out. I can't remember being this depressed in a long time. I've heard the company line and all the blind faith from the front office. I'm just flat out tired of hearing excuses, I want the team to get some wins. I'm tired of walking around the city I love, supporting the teams I love (Texans, Rockets, and Stros), and getting laughed at.
Seriously, they are not going to bring anyone in here to challenge Carr. I think the brass already knows they will beat him out. I can't remember being this depressed in a long time. I've heard the company line and all the blind faith from the front office. I'm just flat out tired of hearing excuses, I want the team to get some wins. I'm tired of walking around the city I love, supporting the teams I love (Texans, Rockets, and Stros), and getting laughed at.
I said don't replace Carr in the offseason.
Reasons:
#1 - We haven't given him a descent O-Line yet, after 5 seasons!!!!
#2 - He finally has a coach that can COACH him.
#3 - We gave him the extension for a reason, Kubiak thinks he can do it.
#4 - Kubiak will continue to improve his game and he will be worth much more in '08 than '07.
#5 - We've invested so much in this guy lets get him a freakin OL next year and see what he's REALLY got.
#6 - There is'nt anyone worth immediately replacing him with.(Kubes needs to draft someone to start molding underneath him for a yr.)
I like David Carr and I just really want to see him suceed.Call me a & pass me a Duff.
Well, I said "have no opinion" because I'm not for replacing Carr just to be replacing him. If we can upgrade, then absolutely. Otherwise, I'd like to see the team draft a QB this year in the 2nd or 3rd round and let him sit a year and learn Kubiak's offense. Carr can be the sacrificial lamb behind that line while they improve with whatever rookie lineman (linemen?) they draft.
So yeah, replace him, just do it with a plan and some direction. The "OMG Anyone is better!!1!@!" hyperbole doesn't suit me, but I want to see an upgrade at that position.
I really believe Carr will be back in 2007. Everyone in the FO looks like that's the direction they're headed in. I just want a contingency plan to start if Carr doesn't shape up. I really want us to pick up a QB in the 4-5 round; some guy Kubiak really likes in the draft. Rosenfels has played good as well, but I really want a QB in the draft so Carr can understand "hey, my job really is on the line."
Seriously, they are not going to bring anyone in here to challenge Carr. I think the brass already knows they will beat him out. I can't remember being this depressed in a long time. I've heard the company line and all the blind faith from the front office. I'm just flat out tired of hearing excuses, I want the team to get some wins. I'm tired of walking around the city I love, supporting the teams I love (Texans, Rockets, and Stros), and getting laughed at.
I've been kind of vocal about Carr going out the door but I'm slowly coming around to the understanding that replacing Carr during the off-season isn't going to make any difference one way or the other. We are a 4-9 team and we're likely to finish the season no better than 5-11. I believe that if we were to start the season over again with Sage Rosenfels, Jake Plummer, or even Vince Young as our QB the results of this particular season would not be drastically different.
We would be slaughtered early in the year again just like we did with David Carr.
We would get marginally better in the running game just like we did with David Carr.
The defense would come together and start playing better just like they did with David Carr.
Many of the same boneheaded mistakes would cost us games just like they did with David Carr.
I'll accept a change of QB next season if that's what happens and I'll be happy. I'm not calling for one anymore because I think we're a season away from it making a difference. Mostly I'll like seeing a new QB because I'm tired of reading David Carr threads and voting in David Carr polls. I'm tired of this one player and his "play" (or lack thereof) dominating every conversation about this football team. I'll be happy to see David Carr go out the door because it will make life as a Texans fan a little more peaceful, even if it's only for a short time.
If we bring in a veteran next season he's going to be a caretaker who just keeps the seat warm for whoever we pick to be our next franchise quarterback. He won't be the answer. If we draft a QB and throw him in there then we'll watch him take his lumps playing on a team that isn't ready to support him. No thanks on that one. I've seen enough of that act already. That means ditching David Carr next season will accomplish mostly nothing. We'll have to sign someone else to keep the seat warm. We'll have to eat contract when we cut Carr.
Keep him another year, bring in someone to truly compete with him and maybe take his job away from him when they're ready. Why go out and find a mediocre QB to mind the store. We already have one and we're paying for him no matter what we do.
If DC would quit worrying about trying to look cool and stop trying to be like KFed and play some ball, he might have a chance.
If DC would quit worrying about trying to look cool and stop trying to be like KFed and play some ball, he might have a chance.
Mcnair if Carr does not do good next year, you will see the fan base dwindle even further down.
Carr will not be a Texan come June 1, 2007. Sorry to p.o. some of you guys but a harsh reality check is comming very soon. He has lost any respect he might of had comming in this season. I think Kubiak will trade Carr to Denver for Plummer. Smart move given that Plummer had 4 winning seasons ubder Kubiak. Plummer +4 Carr -1
I am seriously wondering if Carr does have blackmail photos on Mcnair. He has got his finger wrapped around Mcnair...I am seriously also thinking Mcnair probably thinks Carr is the next moon. Because we have tied a lot of records that the oilers had during the moon era when he was really bad. Mcnair if Carr does not do good next year, you will see the fan base dwindle even further down.
I just do not understand things anymore.....
BTW no one is laughing at the Rockets or the Astros.
I'm outta the Texans scene until McNair leaves. I have come to the conclusion this is 100% on the man and I won't give him another penny.."
I said don't replace Carr in the offseason.
Reasons:
#1 - We haven't given him a descent O-Line yet, after 5 seasons!!!!
#2 - He finally has a coach that can COACH him.
#3 - We gave him the extension for a reason, Kubiak thinks he can do it.
#4 - Kubiak will continue to improve his game and he will be worth much more in '08 than '07.
#5 - We've invested so much in this guy lets get him a freakin OL next year and see what he's REALLY got.
#6 - There is'nt anyone worth immediately replacing him with.(Kubes needs to draft someone to start molding underneath him for a yr.)
I like David Carr and I just really want to see him suceed.Call me a & pass me a Duff.
There will never be an o-line that can protect Carr. Rosenfels playing behind the same line did not get sacked playing the 2nd half of the 1st Titan game after Carr was sacked 4 times in the 1st half. As long as Carr is QB, we will still be hearing how the o-line is not protecting him.
It's a Christian thing between McNair and Carr. He, McNair is going to make a miracle happen. He's a gonna make Jaaysus appear at David's side at a critical juncture in his career and Jaaysus is going to show David the light. A calm will descend over brother David and he will throw a perfect 5 yard strike. There will be much rejoicing. HallelujaH!
Seriously, this is a spiritual toy for Mega filthy rich McNair. He's making money hand over fist regardless of whether another season ticket is sold. Look at another sorry owner, Daniel Snyder and you begin to understand the fan figures very low on the pecking order of people to keep happy. It's a sad joke. Remember this guy Snyder is a horrible horrible owner for the fans but is still making solid bank. Regardless of what his teams have done on the field, he's incredibly successful making money and building equity. Why continue to support this whacked out system? When you have a bad owner in the NFL, you are screwed. Period. I'm outta the Texans scene until McNair leaves. I have come to the conclusion this is 100% on the man and I won't give him another penny.
From Wiki:
"While Snyder has been owner, the Redskins' annual profit has increased nearly $100 million. When he purchased the Redskins in 1999, the team's annual revenue was $10 million lower than the highest grossing team at the time, the Dallas Cowboys. As of 2004, the Redskins' income exceeds the Cowboys by nearly $40 million, making them the highest grossing team in the National Football League. This is in part due to sponsorship arrangements with Anheuser-Busch, Pepsi and Nextel, but mainly due to a $207 million deal with FedEx to gain naming rights to the Redskins' stadium, now named FedExField. Snyder paid attention to revenue generation by adding more suites and club seats, enlarging capacity to a league-high 84,000-plus, and he sold the club seats that had gone empty under the Cooke family reign. Traffic and parking around the stadium have been improved, and there are now two escalators to the upper levels of the stadium. Ticket prices and parking prices have been raised."
First off just because two guys are christian does not mean there is some christian conspiracy thing going on between them. Next what does your "Christian Conspiracy" and Daniel Snyder have to do with anything? There are two distinct differences between McNair and Snyder, One McNair is attempting to build this team through the draft (which was terribly unsucessful until this year no thanks to Caserly) and Snyder has thrown money and draft picks unsucessfully at free agents for 7 years now. McNair is trying to do this the right way and eventually it will show. Snyder is defiantly in it just for the money and soon it will blow up in his face because he will run out of cap space and have a bunch of old vets with bloated salaries on the team with little talent.
What would be accomplished by Bob McNair throwing David Carr under the bus? McNair said what he needed to say as an owner. So David Carr doesnt get replaced by a Vet next season, so what!!! That does not mean that they won't draft a replacement for Carr in the upcoming draft. Look, I am just as tired of this team losing as everyone else, but you have no proof of this verbal vomit that you are spewing about miracles. I don't see this blind faith of Carr in McNair that you see. I see an owner that is saying what he is supposed to say about his starting QB. What purose would be served by McNair bashing Carr in the Media?
I think that our owner is commited to winning but it has taken him 5 years to find the right people to get the job done.
What would be accomplished by Bob McNair throwing David Carr under the bus?
david carr isn't some oppressor here only to crush the dreams of texans fans.
he's a qb who looks great in practice, but can't translate that on to the field on game day.
i'd replace him only if we could find a suitable replacement. a high-caliber qb. if we end up picking a qb with our pick in the first round of the draft this offseason, then i'd want carr to start while the new kid learns the ropes. if we end up signing some awesome free agent, then i'd want carr to sit at #2 and earn his stripes.
Christians stick with Christians and they for some reason all remember JOB when things turn bad for them. I think Mcnair probably is thinking about the JOB scripture at a time like this........