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So you are saying Devlin/BOB did a great job last year?
If they were so great why are they in the process of being replaced?
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They suck
So you are saying Devlin/BOB did a great job last year?
If they were so great why are they in the process of being replaced?
I watched him in college and liked him. He played well at RT his rookie year in Buffalo. Gaine knows him and I trust Gaine in addition to what I saw.
So you're on record Davenport could be the starting LT for the Pats. If that's the case then BB should be on the phone right now (Like he was with Brown) offering up a 3rd rder for Davenport.
You realize how silly you're being?
Well the BB did trade for Brown last yr and that didn't seem to mess up the Pats coninuity, they also drafted Wynn.
This is a philosophy I would like the Texans to adopt and let Devlin worry about developing continuity.
Mangler
Toro de España
You are aware that Davenport was drafted in 2017, and Lamm was signed in 2015 by Rick Smith, right?
Texansballer74
The Marine
Im on record saying you can come off the streets and play starting left tackle for the Patriots. That's how good their coaching is and great Brady is.
Stop the nonsense
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I think, & I could be wrong (but considering everything he's said on the subject & not just the one line about Davenport & the Pat's taken out of context), he is referring to our lack of continuity on the OL.
Unlike the Patriots we had a new starting LT, LG, RG, & RT. Throughout training camp they played those positions to try to build the chemistry 5 need to be able to play as 1
Week one, all the work done in training camp was shot to hell when our starting RT went down. Our HC/OLC decided to move the LT to RT & play our rookie who missed all of TC at the most important position on the line.
I understand there were reasons for them to believe that was a good idea. But there were far more to suggest it wasn't a good idea. #1, he missed all of training camp. #2 he wasn't a first round pick. #3 he isn't suited to play LT in the NFL. #4 he's a rookie. #5 he's a rookie that missed training camp due to injury.
So instead of moving forward with plan B & playing the guy they planned to play in the event a tackle goes down they disrupt both sides of the line.
Game 2 we put the tackles back like they should be. But then the starting LG gets hurt & taken out of the game. Another stab at our continuity.
I think we started the same 5 three weeks in a row once in all of 2018. We might have got a 4 week stretch out of them. But I really think it was only three weeks.
To think about going into next season with three new starters is disheartening. True or not. Doesn't really sound like building when you start over every year.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
It is - so a full preseason's activities with a line they know they want as starters would certainly help.
Of course, they should have a better idea of who they definitely don't want starting so placing a talented young and durable rookie or maybe two would be a good place to upgrade.
A handful of games (along with practice during the same weeks) can be enough to start garnering the desired cohesion.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
I wouldn't be surprised to see Colvin make a nice jump up the production ladder now that he understands RC's defense and if he's 100% healthy.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
If OB started Griffin over the Jordan's b/c he was the better blocker......then that's like saying the Jordan's stood around on blocking plays with one thumb firmly up their arses and one thumb in their mouths. Griffin was one of the worst blocking TE's in the NFL (guessing) which firmly confirms OB's phobia about starting rookies in his offense.
Colvin was signed because he was one of the best slot CB's in the NFL. If healthy I expect him to return to this level.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
repeat #1
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OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Let's not be satisfied, repeat #2.
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It gets worse.
If our TEs weren't used in the passing game because we had to max protect & Griffin was our best blocking TE & he wasn't any good at blocking... not only are our rookie TEs ridiculously poor blockers, but so are our reserve linemen.
Because in his wisdom O'Brien chose to play Griffin instead of any other potential blocker. Running or passing. Whether we needed one yard or 3 seconds O'Brien chose Ryan Griffin.
And he had to max protect because he thought Seantrel and Rankin could hold down tackle spots and then he shuffled Davenport around. For some reason he believed the line was so good he wouldn't need a blocking TE last year.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Man I hope Fells can add some stability.
That will have a flow on effect, but it cannot all be on him.
We need others to step up too and perhaps that can happen when things start to click all along the line.
Sometimes it just needs one lynchpin, but I hope Texans can find a starter in the draft to add some impetus as well.
You realize Rankin wasn't in the mix until Seantrel went down?
Rankin was also dealing with the fact that he's a guard, not a tackle, in the NFL. Something a good coach would have realized in training camp
Except that they didn't get a chance to evaluate him in training camp
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Good post, looking at it that way its almost like the GM version of betting on yourself. If Gaine does the job right then the team is set like the Pats have been for years on end, if he screws it up then he bombs and...…..lets be honest we're no worse than we have been in the past. Of course the coaching staff is the wild card beyond his control but I guess that's no different that a player having the risk of injury or his team being bad.
From that point of view I'm kind of impressed with Gaine's attitude.
They are no worse than they've been in the past this is true.
Problem is the division is better and by the end of the yr they were the 2nd best team in the division.
Texans GM Brian Gaine Discuses His Off-Season Moves to This Point and More
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zshawn10
All Pro
Brian Gaine SiriusXM NFL radio interview
From last night…
(Talk about the transition in your secondary?)
As it relates to our secondary this year, obviously a key component because let’s face it the strength of our defense has been our front seven on defense. We were entering the off-season with some key free agents and some tough decisions to make, we certainly think the guys who departed from the Texans and moved on to other opportunities. We knew we had to upgrade some speed and some ability to play man-to-man coverage and a player like Bradley Roby fit that criteria for us. We did a one year deal, he offers some of the size/speed/dimensions that we talk about in terms of our prototypical standards for what we look at at that specific position, 5’11", 190 lbs, 4.3-4.4 [40 yd] coming out and can play man coverage. Someone we are familiar with as we played Denver the last two years, he has played in the Super Bowl, that was all advantageous in terms of how we looked at him.
We did lose Tyrann Mathieu he was a great addition to the team last year unfortunately we couldn’t keep him. We did sign Tashaun Gipson, someone we are very familiar with to play the Safety position for us, offers the size dimensions we like at 5 foot 11, 210 pounds. Can play zone, can play man, we think he’s a two hole guy. He can play the run, he can play from depth, he can match up on tight ends and showed that on our film study, and we played him twice a year.
We picked up Briean Boddy-Calhoun a player who we think can play the nickel position to add depth/competition to the secondary position. So it’s a little bit of a transition for us but one thing we are reminding ourselves of is we have three picks in the top two rounds of the upcoming draft, four picks in the top 86 so there’s more at bats coming.
(On one year free agent deals)
We will evaluate the market every year, and every day in free agency to see where there is some value in the market. In my own personal experience I’ve had some success doing [one year deals] with the Dallas Cowboys and with the Miami Dolphins, and then last year we did it with Tyrann Mathieu and some of those paid dividends for us. It’s a chance for the player to get to know us and a chance for us to get to know the player. They’re good football players and perhaps it gives us a prism into an opportunity that might prove a long-term marriage as it relates to our evaluation in the one-year window.
(Where are you now with the offensive line with the draft coming up?)
Last year we felt like we were able to address the interior line and right tackle, unfortunately we had the injury with Seantrel Henderson in the first game of the year. In free agency we added Zach Fulton at right guard, Senio Kelemete at left guard, and then Nick Martin was returning from injury. So we felt we had the lineup going into the season. Julien Davenport was in year two of his development, we drafted him in the fourth round out of Bucknell. We do believe that Julian is going to be even more improved this year with two years under his belt and having some starting experience. Seantrel is back for another year at right tackle. Now that the group has some cohesion and has played together, we think the group is going to be even better. Some of our issues with protection wasn’t always on the offensive line, there was some shared responsibilities there. It could have been the tackles, it could have been the guards, it could have been the backs, it could have been the tight ends, it could have been the quarterback. We’ll have a year together in terms of cohesion and building the group, and also the opportunity here in the draft will present some options for us if we feel like it’s going to give us a reward to take a player in the one of the top three rounds.
(Where does Matt Kalil fit in?)
We added Matt Khalil on a one year deal. We think he will compete to start at left tackle, right now that is the situation. He is coming off injury. This is an opportunity for him to prove he’s healthy and can still play at a high-level. We were willing to give him that opportunity and perhaps that leads to a long-term opportunity for the player if it proves well for him.
(Will Fuller’s status and depth at the WR position?)
We think Hopkins and Will Fuller‘s skill sets are great compliments to one another. Will’s return is on schedule and we think he’ll be ready to go when the season starts. He has a fully dimensional skill set there’s two areas where I think Will doesn’t get full credit for, that’s his route running and his improved hands. Everybody knows Will can run fast and is a deep threat. His skill set in terms of running vertical and getting deep matches up with our quarterback, as well. Our quarterback throws a great deep ball so having that dimension in our offense is a great advantage for us. The addition of Keke Coutee and getting him back healthy and returned to form. The two games he played for us I think he had over 20 catches for almost 200 yards, so he is an electric player and he gives us some balance in terms of the middle presence passing game and the perimeter element with Will Fuller and Hopkins. And with the two young tight ends as well that we drafted last year, we feel like now there is some horizontal balance in the offense. We can test the defense vertically ,we can test them underneath, we can test them intermediate, we can test them on the perimeter. So once we get everybody back and healthy, we’re excited about our passing game next year.
(How good of a draft is it on the offensive line?)
I think it’s a reasonably good draft on the offensive line. Is there a Jonathan Ogden in this draft, perhaps not. But I think there are some opportunities to get some solid starters in this draft as it relates to the edge players at tackle and I think there’s some opportunities on the interior offensive line to do that. I would say that history tells you that on the interior you have opportunities to get starters in the first, second, third, mid rounds and even later. On the offensive tackle position for the good ones perhaps you have to draft them high, but I think there will be some opportunities on day two and perhaps even in the middle rounds to land yourself a starter at the OT position.
(What is different for you this year compared to last year?)
The circumstance when I was hired in January was half of the scouting season had been already completed, so you arrive and you want to make some sudden changes but you also want to keep the train running based on everything that has been done. When we got to the post draft period, certainly we made some staff changes. And then we made some institutional changes in terms of how we scout, the methodology and terminology, the scouting systems that we use, marrying up our philosophy with our coaches, and with how our scouts will go out on the road and what types of players that they will look for. The emphasis on character, football character and personal character. The player’s ability to learn. And the integration of the medical and the psychological part. All of these are critical to how we scout to arrive at the best decisions. I think having 12 months in that scouting system and cycle allowed our scouts to scout better. It allowed our coaches and scouting staff to work congruently much, much better. And lastly, we didn’t have a first or second round draft pick last year. So having those tools in our toolbox along with an additional second round pick is going to be a great chance for the Texans to improve the team.
(Upcoming business, Clowney/Watson contracts?)
I have a great partner in Chris Olsen our vice president of football administration. We work on short term planning and long-term planning on a weekly basis. Certainly those are core players and key pieces to our team. My philosophy here as long as I’m with the Texans will be that we will draft, develop, and extend our own players to the best of our abilities. So I will always look for our internal solutions before looking for external solutions. Those are two players that you identified that we are going to work long and hard to make sure they are a part of our long term future.
(As a former TE, assess Rob Gronkowski for us)
Fully dimensional skill set, there was not a weakness in his game. He was a threat to beat man coverage, he was a threat to beat zone coverage, significant threat in the red zone, significant threat on third down. But also his presence in the running game, setting the edge. Big body, he had all the height/weight/speed that you want. The last thing I would say is just his football make up. He had an outstanding football make up, he played like he loved the game and you saw that every Sunday. From the physical skill set, to the football make up, to the football character you have the perfect combination of what I think you look for in a prototypical tight end.
From last night…
(Talk about the transition in your secondary?)
As it relates to our secondary this year, obviously a key component because let’s face it the strength of our defense has been our front seven on defense. We were entering the off-season with some key free agents and some tough decisions to make, we certainly think the guys who departed from the Texans and moved on to other opportunities. We knew we had to upgrade some speed and some ability to play man-to-man coverage and a player like Bradley Roby fit that criteria for us. We did a one year deal, he offers some of the size/speed/dimensions that we talk about in terms of our prototypical standards for what we look at at that specific position, 5’11", 190 lbs, 4.3-4.4 [40 yd] coming out and can play man coverage. Someone we are familiar with as we played Denver the last two years, he has played in the Super Bowl, that was all advantageous in terms of how we looked at him.
We did lose Tyrann Mathieu he was a great addition to the team last year unfortunately we couldn’t keep him. We did sign Tashaun Gipson, someone we are very familiar with to play the Safety position for us, offers the size dimensions we like at 5 foot 11, 210 pounds. Can play zone, can play man, we think he’s a two hole guy. He can play the run, he can play from depth, he can match up on tight ends and showed that on our film study, and we played him twice a year.
We picked up Briean Boddy-Calhoun a player who we think can play the nickel position to add depth/competition to the secondary position. So it’s a little bit of a transition for us but one thing we are reminding ourselves of is we have three picks in the top two rounds of the upcoming draft, four picks in the top 86 so there’s more at bats coming.
(On one year free agent deals)
We will evaluate the market every year, and every day in free agency to see where there is some value in the market. In my own personal experience I’ve had some success doing [one year deals] with the Dallas Cowboys and with the Miami Dolphins, and then last year we did it with Tyrann Mathieu and some of those paid dividends for us. It’s a chance for the player to get to know us and a chance for us to get to know the player. They’re good football players and perhaps it gives us a prism into an opportunity that might prove a long-term marriage as it relates to our evaluation in the one-year window.
(Where are you now with the offensive line with the draft coming up?)
Last year we felt like we were able to address the interior line and right tackle, unfortunately we had the injury with Seantrel Henderson in the first game of the year. In free agency we added Zach Fulton at right guard, Senio Kelemete at left guard, and then Nick Martin was returning from injury. So we felt we had the lineup going into the season. Julien Davenport was in year two of his development, we drafted him in the fourth round out of Bucknell. We do believe that Julian is going to be even more improved this year with two years under his belt and having some starting experience. Seantrel is back for another year at right tackle. Now that the group has some cohesion and has played together, we think the group is going to be even better. Some of our issues with protection wasn’t always on the offensive line, there was some shared responsibilities there. It could have been the tackles, it could have been the guards, it could have been the backs, it could have been the tight ends, it could have been the quarterback. We’ll have a year together in terms of cohesion and building the group, and also the opportunity here in the draft will present some options for us if we feel like it’s going to give us a reward to take a player in the one of the top three rounds.
(Where does Matt Kalil fit in?)
We added Matt Khalil on a one year deal. We think he will compete to start at left tackle, right now that is the situation. He is coming off injury. This is an opportunity for him to prove he’s healthy and can still play at a high-level. We were willing to give him that opportunity and perhaps that leads to a long-term opportunity for the player if it proves well for him.
(Will Fuller’s status and depth at the WR position?)
We think Hopkins and Will Fuller‘s skill sets are great compliments to one another. Will’s return is on schedule and we think he’ll be ready to go when the season starts. He has a fully dimensional skill set there’s two areas where I think Will doesn’t get full credit for, that’s his route running and his improved hands. Everybody knows Will can run fast and is a deep threat. His skill set in terms of running vertical and getting deep matches up with our quarterback, as well. Our quarterback throws a great deep ball so having that dimension in our offense is a great advantage for us. The addition of Keke Coutee and getting him back healthy and returned to form. The two games he played for us I think he had over 20 catches for almost 200 yards, so he is an electric player and he gives us some balance in terms of the middle presence passing game and the perimeter element with Will Fuller and Hopkins. And with the two young tight ends as well that we drafted last year, we feel like now there is some horizontal balance in the offense. We can test the defense vertically ,we can test them underneath, we can test them intermediate, we can test them on the perimeter. So once we get everybody back and healthy, we’re excited about our passing game next year.
(How good of a draft is it on the offensive line?)
I think it’s a reasonably good draft on the offensive line. Is there a Jonathan Ogden in this draft, perhaps not. But I think there are some opportunities to get some solid starters in this draft as it relates to the edge players at tackle and I think there’s some opportunities on the interior offensive line to do that. I would say that history tells you that on the interior you have opportunities to get starters in the first, second, third, mid rounds and even later. On the offensive tackle position for the good ones perhaps you have to draft them high, but I think there will be some opportunities on day two and perhaps even in the middle rounds to land yourself a starter at the OT position.
(What is different for you this year compared to last year?)
The circumstance when I was hired in January was half of the scouting season had been already completed, so you arrive and you want to make some sudden changes but you also want to keep the train running based on everything that has been done. When we got to the post draft period, certainly we made some staff changes. And then we made some institutional changes in terms of how we scout, the methodology and terminology, the scouting systems that we use, marrying up our philosophy with our coaches, and with how our scouts will go out on the road and what types of players that they will look for. The emphasis on character, football character and personal character. The player’s ability to learn. And the integration of the medical and the psychological part. All of these are critical to how we scout to arrive at the best decisions. I think having 12 months in that scouting system and cycle allowed our scouts to scout better. It allowed our coaches and scouting staff to work congruently much, much better. And lastly, we didn’t have a first or second round draft pick last year. So having those tools in our toolbox along with an additional second round pick is going to be a great chance for the Texans to improve the team.
(Upcoming business, Clowney/Watson contracts?)
I have a great partner in Chris Olsen our vice president of football administration. We work on short term planning and long-term planning on a weekly basis. Certainly those are core players and key pieces to our team. My philosophy here as long as I’m with the Texans will be that we will draft, develop, and extend our own players to the best of our abilities. So I will always look for our internal solutions before looking for external solutions. Those are two players that you identified that we are going to work long and hard to make sure they are a part of our long term future.
(As a former TE, assess Rob Gronkowski for us)
Fully dimensional skill set, there was not a weakness in his game. He was a threat to beat man coverage, he was a threat to beat zone coverage, significant threat in the red zone, significant threat on third down. But also his presence in the running game, setting the edge. Big body, he had all the height/weight/speed that you want. The last thing I would say is just his football make up. He had an outstanding football make up, he played like he loved the game and you saw that every Sunday. From the physical skill set, to the football make up, to the football character you have the perfect combination of what I think you look for in a prototypical tight end.
I would say that history tells you that on the interior you have opportunities to get starters in the first, second, third, mid rounds and even later. On the offensive tackle position for the good ones perhaps you have to draft them high, but I think there will be some opportunities on day two and perhaps even in the middle rounds to land yourself a starter at the OT position.
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I dunno but can we read between the lines there and anticipate Gaine to perhaps make an aggressive move in the first round to draft who he would hope to be his franchise LT ?
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I dunno but can we read between the lines there and anticipate Gaine to perhaps make an aggressive move in the first round to draft who he would hope to be his franchise LT ?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
No idea how you got that surmise. OT harder than OG, almost a universal opinion. Move within the 1st, don't see that in there.
H_Town_Gaucho
Waterboy
Gaine seems to think our OL doesn't need much tweeking and will play better this year, he's in for a rude awakening me thinks...
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
GMs generally get those impressions from coaches.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
No, I dont get that sense. I do get a gut feel on a few things after reading that and it's purely speculation on my part...
He has a pragmatic perception of the team and is a glass half full guy in some respects. He seems to expect injured players to return to form and seems to count on younger players naturally getting better. Perceive that how you will, it could be good (cap) management and faith in the coaches ,or the writing on the wall.
Has the utmost faith in our scouting ability and it will take a couple of years of horrible drafts to question that - if he ever does.
Seems passive in general. To answer your question, I see it just as likely he'll trade back for value and assets. Not impulsive and wont do anything that hasn't been overly scrutinized. His answers seem well rehearsed as I imagine his draft plans and scenarios will be. Reactionary and will not force outcomes. Future free agencies will be just as dull with him at the helm. Not adverse to limited bpa picks early in the draft.
Mostly, I think his future hinges on our drafts - the only outlier I can think of is the DT trade which I liked.
Henderson only played a handful of snaps before getting hurt. They brought him into start. They obviously feel pretty good about him.
Fulton wasn't bad imo.
Rankin will most likely be our LG for a few years.
Martin imo has to be replaced. His play affects both guards & may very well made them look worse than they really are.
If they get a Stud LT we'll be greatly improved up front. & I'm saying that as someone who believes Davenport could still develop into a competent starter. He can be good enough imo that we shouldn't have to reach, or give up the farm to trade too far up to get one. I doubt we'll trade into the top 10 to get a LT.... up to 14 or 15 maybe.
Still I think most of the protection issues start with our QB. He's either not seeing something or not communicating something to his OL & RBs. I know he's a smart kid so I don't know what the issue is, but it's something.
Replace Martin with a 2nd or third round pick & I'll be very happy. Even if we don't land a stud LT.
Mangler
Toro de España
He’s actually not entirely wrong. The thing is, we could make it work with the guys we have IF we had a competent O-line Coach instead of one of buttchin’s compadres. Get Gibbs or New England’s O-line coach and Watson would be well protected, with both our RB’s also benefiting.
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Well a 27th ranked run game and allowing 62 sacks would tend to disagree with this post.
I do agree that Devlin should've been let go.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Agreed, I'm wondering if he's a little to confident in his ability to escape and extend plays or in his ability to take hits. That works, to an extent, in college but it doesn't work long term in the NFL when every week you are playing against 300+ pound men who are being paid million of dollars to find ways to push your face into the ground. No Oline, no matter how good, can protects a QB that all of a sudden runs left when his entire Oline is running right.
Hopefully being a tackling dummy helped him learn that sometimes its ok to end a play so that the hairless gorilla charging full speed at you has to stop before he knocks you over like a bowling pin or he gets a penalty.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
"On the offensive tackle position for the good ones perhaps you have to draft them high, but I think there will be some opportunities on day two and perhaps even in the middle rounds to land yourself a starter at the OT position."
Doesn't sound like a move up is really in his game plan to me.
But GM's rarely show their hand before the draft.
He says all the right things, this draft should help define him.
Doesn't sound like a move up is really in his game plan to me.
But GM's rarely show their hand before the draft.
He says all the right things, this draft should help define him.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
I think Obrien agrees with your assessment.
Carl Smith has been brought in to most likely work with Watson to eliminate some of those traits.
(maybe undo some of Obriens coaching?)
Needs to temper some of his competitive fire. Just don't extinguish it.
Going to be a great QB if he survives. Probably best of that draft class. IMHO
Some have gotten off to a faster start, but it's a marathon, not a sprint.
Highlighting this post because it represents evaluation and critique versus just snark and hyperbole..more this will do a message board good.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Not only that he seemed to be looking for the homerun shot too much. Now In the beginning I believe he wasn't confident in his legs.
Coming off an ACL usually takes longer than we think it will. There are very few Peterson's out there. Plus after the punishment he took last yr being gunshy would be a very natural reaction.
Agreed. He said "we" think kalil will compete for a starting job (I think that means obrien).
I also thought this was interesting:
"we made some institutional changes in terms of how we scout, the methodology and terminology, the scouting systems thatwe use, marrying up our philosophy with our coaches, and with how our scouts will go out on the road and what types of players that they will look for. The emphasis oncharacter, football character and personal character. The player’s ability to learn. And the integration of the medical and the psychological part."
Maybe I'm being knee jerk skeptical but what evidence is there than the teams evaluation of a players character a) can ever be accurate and b) even matters?
I'd hate to pass on a top tier talent because a scout or coach hated their character or psychological makeup. That's just not their area of expertise
HaveMercy
Passing Through
I read that a quote from Gaine a bit differently. I think the Scout and Team's evaluation of a player's character is not meant to draw an extremely fine line, but is instead meant to weed (oops, bad pun) out the obviously poor characters. Has there been domestic violence in the subject's background? How about convictions or suspensions for drug use, theft, fighting? What is his reputation for effort on the field and in the position room? Has the subject been a troublemaker, a good teammate, a goof-off, or what? What is his reputation among the players, coaches, and school mates? If it turns out the guy is a great son, citizen, and teammate, so much the better.
HaveMercy
Passing Through
Let me clarify...A guy doesn't have to a great son, citizen, and teammate. But strong negatives in those areas are at least indications of what kind of player he could be over the long run. I understand that these are kids and kids grow up, at least most of them. Then you look at guys like Gronkowski. His abilities were so off the chart that most folks chose to overlook his peculiarities. But that's really rare. Guys like RG3 were reputed to have attitude issues (read "teachable") that affected their play. David Carr was reputed to be aloof. So, a player's character, personality, and reputation should be at least looked at by the Team.
dream_team
Hall of Fame
Also take a look at what’s going on at KC. I know a lot of people on here applaud Dorsey as a great GM because he’s willing to take on talented players with questionable character. But they lost Peters, Hunt, and now possibly Tyreek, for basically nothing.
Don't forget 2nd most points in team history. Or does that not mean what you thought it meant?
Hopefully he's just saying we'll avoid the Osweilers & Swearingers in the future & not shy away from the Reids & Honeybadgers.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
If the Texans offense can tally up another season of second or third most points scored in team history with this years schedule versus last years laughable (11-5) schedule......I'll believe there's something to the overall offense.
This years schedule will not be so forgiving to a piss-poor OL and a mediocre running game.
When 2nd most points scored in team history is ranked 20th in the NFL you've fallen way behind the rest of the league. To hang your hat on it is living in the past & not conducive to winning in today's NFL.
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