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Andre Johnson to be 1st inductee into Texans ring of honor Nov. 19th

Carr Bombed said:
The only real issue I have with the Rockets is Clyde Drexler, great HOF player, but only played 3 1/2 years here.
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I don't think the 3-1/2 year period should matter (unless there's a specific criteria).

The fact that he won a championship because he wants to be back in Houston to do just that sounds more logical.

That and him being named among the best 50 are huge, and he retired as a true Rocket.
I think if Barkley wasn't such a hard head, Clyde would have continued to play for at least another year.
(I love Barkley, but his mouth can be a detrimental to himself when he was younger.)
 
76Texan said:
IMHO, it's a bit premature to have a Ring of Honor.
25 years, or whatever consider as a generation nowadays, is more meaningful.
This is just another ploy of the marketing company named Texans.
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What bunk.

So it's a ploy if you pull some arbitrary number out of your ass for the time period to have something most if not all teams have.

Couldn't be timed with the retirement of the 1st great Texan. Him, seems logical rather than pure cynical marketing.
 
infantrycak said:
What bunk.

So it's a ploy if you pull some arbitrary number out of your ass for the time period to have something most if not all teams have.

Couldn't be timed with the retirement of the 1st great Texan. Him, seems logical rather than pure cynical marketing.
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That's why I didn't specify an exact number of years.

Perhaps the greatest player in a young franchise history can wait.

Even as good as he was, he's not considered to be a first-time ballot at the HOF.

Have a ceremony to honor him as such is very appropriated.
It recognizes him as the best player the young Texans ever had.
 
infantrycak said:
What bunk.

So it's a ploy if you pull some arbitrary number out of your ass for the time period to have something most if not all teams have.

Couldn't be timed with the retirement of the 1st great Texan. Him, seems logical rather than pure cynical marketing.
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And I do agree that it's logical marketing on the part of the Texans org.
I never said otherwise.
 
Texecutioner said:
No way he is up there with AJ though.
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To clarify my comment, I said that when he was healthy, he was as good as AJ. Of course his career doesn't stack up with AJ. But that's the thing - AJ and Watt are obviously all-time greats and will be honored as such with elections into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Do we expect the Texans Ring of Honor to merely mimic the HoF? They'd be the first team ever to do that.

I don't personally have an issue with the HoF requiring some longevity (era dependent) while teams honor their own players that might have been elite for some significant period of time but without the longevity for the HoF. JMO
 
eriadoc said:
To clarify my comment, I said that when he was healthy, he was as good as AJ. Of course his career doesn't stack up with AJ. But that's the thing - AJ and Watt are obviously all-time greats and will be honored as such with elections into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Do we expect the Texans Ring of Honor to merely mimic the HoF? They'd be the first team ever to do that.

I don't personally have an issue with the HoF requiring some longevity (era dependent) while teams honor their own players that might have been elite for some significant period of time but without the longevity for the HoF. JMO
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I agree. But I don't think Arian is the next step down from HOF. I think Duane Brown is that next step down. Longevity as a Texan and really good for most of his career.

I look at it like this....in my estimation how likely is it that the team will have a more franchise impactful player at that position within the next however many years. Unfortunately I do think the position he played goes against him because I think it'll be a lot easier to have backs that come in and have an Arian type of impact if not greater.

As good as Arian was at his peak I think you'd potentially be sticking more running backs in there than ideal.

I say all this to say this though. If they put him in I wouldn't complain. I agree with dB in that this is fun to talk about but ultimately means little.
 
I have to think that if the player is a game changer, which AJ and JJ certainly are, they should be in the ring of honor... Foster was a game changer as well.

Personally I would put Aaron Glenn in the ROH. Not many players single-handedly win a game for you like Glenn dominated that game against the Steelers
 
IMO, a RoH candidate would be the type of player who personifies the teams culture, but most importantly is the kind of player an opposing team has to adjust or plan their normal game plan to counter the player's abilities. A 'game changer' in every sense of the word.
 
Looking at other rings of honor around the league, it's not super super exclusive.

I think JJ, AJ, Cushing, Foster, Ryans and Brown should be in. These guys were pillars of the franchise. Hearts and souls of the team.

Not sure anyone else deserves it.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
Looking at other rings of honor around the league, it's not super super exclusive.

I think JJ, AJ, Cushing, Foster, Ryans and Brown should be in. These guys were pillars of the franchise. Hearts and souls of the team.

Not sure anyone else deserves it.
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If you put Ryans in there ... how could you leave out Glenn, Walker and McKinney and Payne and...
 
JB said:
If you put Ryans in there ... how could you leave out Glenn, Walker and McKinney and Payne and...
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I get what you're saying but I'm inclined to players drafted by the Texans and/or played the majority of their career with the Texans.

Payne is one of my favorite Texans but he was 5 here (2 of which he barely olayed) and 5 in Jax. Walker was 4 years for the Texans and 7 elsewhere. Glenn was 3 years for the Texans and 12 elsewhere. McKinney has best Texans claim with 6 years in Houston 4 elsewhere. None drafted by Houston. I suspect only McKinney and Payne would primarily associate themselves with the Texans.
 
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infantrycak said:
I get what you're saying but I'm inclined to players drafted by the Texans and/or played the majority of their career with the Texans.

Payne is one of my favorite Texans but he was 5 here (2 of which he barely olayed) a and 5 in Jax. Walker was 4 years for the Texans and 7 elsewhere. Glenn was 3 years for the Texans and 12 elsewhere. McKinney has best Texans claim with 6 years in Houston 4 elsewhere. None drafted by Houston. I suspect only McKinney and Payne would primarily associate themselves with the Texans.
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yeah I see that but was thinking more of play here... it is our ring of honor. Not sure if it should be majority of career here. It's not considering all time career but Texans career
 
JB said:
yeah I see that but was thinking more of play here... it is our ring of honor. Not sure if it should be majority of career here. It's not considering all time career but Texans career
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Imagine the Texans 1st 3 years without Glenn, Payne, Walker & Sharper. UGLY.

Damn I was at the Superdome when Payne went down. Now that was a crappy field (they replaced it mid-season after that). A rat ran across the field minutes before the game started. You could see loose rug and trenches.
 
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steelbtexan said:
Turd with peanuts vs turd minus peanuts
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Yes the tray of grass system was a failure.. that engineer contractor should be partially liable,

However those old dome stadiums were basically loose carpet laid down on concrete...much worse than our pallets of grass.

I really wish that they would've built something like what Arizona has or came up with a way to grow grass inside, but they didn't..atleast they finally changed it.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Yes the tray of grass system was a failure.. that engineer contractor should be partially liable,

However those old dome stadiums were basically loose carpet laid down on concrete...much worse than our pallets of grass.

I really wish that they would've built something like what Arizona has or came up with a way to grow grass inside, but they didn't..atleast they finally changed it.
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Agreed

Notice how they changed the field after the Hartmann lawsuit was settled?

# Clowney
 
JB said:
They should just use 14 inches of memory foam topped by turf
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I can see it now.. "Texans field sponsored by Gallery furniture".

Honestly in the year 2017 I don't see why they can't grow a natural surface inside. For Christ's sake we were supposed to have flying cars by now. Hell.. hire a bunch of pot growers and I'm sure they can tackle the problem... they have mastered the art of indoor gardening... just saying
 
steelbtexan said:
Agreed

Notice how they changed the field after the Hartmann lawsuit was settled?

# Clowney
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No I noticed it for changed after a national game where they said it looked patchwork.

Hartmann made dick, didn't even get a game check (and he had a very aggressive plaintiff's law firm). Clowney wasn't injured by the field.
 
Carr Bombed said:
I can see it now.. "Texans field sponsored by Gallery furniture".

Honestly in the year 2017 I don't see why they can't grow a natural surface inside. For Christ's sake we were supposed to have flying cars by now. Hell.. hire a bunch of pot growers and I'm sure they can tackle the problem... they have mastered the art of indoor gardening... just saying
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That's what I'm talking about... but foam is much more forgiving than dirt... need to invent an organic foam
 
infantrycak said:
No I noticed it for changed after a national game where they said it looked patchwork.

Hartmann made dick, didn't even get a game check (and he had a very aggressive plaintiff's law firm). Clowney wasn't injured by the field.
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If you say so.

So my post about the timing of the Hartmann settlement vs when the field was changed is incorrect? Hartmann not getting dick has nothing to do with the changing of the field surface. I would guess after the lawsuit was settled McNair told somebody to change the surface so that would put an end to the Hartmann type lawsuits.
 
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infantrycak said:
I get what you're saying but I'm inclined to players drafted by the Texans and/or played the majority of their career with the Texans.

Payne is one of my favorite Texans but he was 5 here (2 of which he barely olayed) and 5 in Jax. Walker was 4 years for the Texans and 7 elsewhere. Glenn was 3 years for the Texans and 12 elsewhere. McKinney has best Texans claim with 6 years in Houston 4 elsewhere. None drafted by Houston. I suspect only McKinney and Payne would primarily associate themselves with the Texans.
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That's pretty much my justification for leaving some of the older guys. Sure those guys had really good careers for us at the start of the franchise, but the guys I listed are "true Texans" to this point.
 
infantrycak said:
Whatever. Texans are always wrong. Happy?
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You just can't please some people, and some of the posters here the Texans do nothing right, nothing.

Fan - "The nachos were good"
You know who you are - "Mine had a hair in it"

Fan - "Half price beer at the game!"
You know who you are - "eh it was warm"

Fan - "Texans won the division!"
You know who you are - "doesn't mean anything, won't win in the playoffs"

Fan - "Texans won the Super Bowl!"
You know who you are - "meh - they'll suck next year... it was luck. Thanks Rick"

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Damn. Every time Andre Johnson gets on the field at Reliant/NRG the Texans are scrambling to have a talented QB on the field at the same time.

How nice would it have been to have AJ there and DW throwing to him on Sunday for a photo? Put AJ on his old uniform (not pads) and let him catch some balls prior to the game.

I am sure JJ will be there. I guess Schaub won’t be able to make it? He has a Monday night in Seattle. Be cool if he was there. Hope to see Arian. Even David Carr. Daniel Owens? Kubiak?

Be nice to have all three (Andre, JJ, DW) in a picture. Past, present and future of the Texans.
 
TJ Yates threw AJ his first postseason TD back in 2011, so nice that he'll be at the game, as well. Too bad that that was the peak of AJ's career, though. His talent deserved a lot better results.
 
The only reason I'm driving in to Houston this weekend. Andre was a total bad ass on the field. That TD in Arizona when he trucked them fools into the end zone.....just, DAMN! Damn!
 
austins23 said:
The only reason I'm driving in to Houston this weekend. Andre was a total bad ass on the field. That TD in Arizona when he trucked them fools into the end zone.....just, DAMN! Damn!
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I could see that highlight 100 a day on here and every single time I'd click "like". Bad ass is the perfect term for AJ.
 
PapaL said:
I could see that highlight 100 a day on here and every single time I'd click "like". Bad ass is the perfect term for AJ.
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That's my #1 all time favorite Texans highlight, followed by the JJ Watt pick six in his rookie year vs. the Bengals.
 
He was given the red jacket by Bob McNair


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Thorn said:
Lotta empty seats.
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Seems like a lotta folk followed the normal routine and went "relieved" themselves soon as soon as the 1st half ended. Fools were streaming to the concourse. The vast majority stated in our seats and saluted 80..................I left as soon as the ceremony ended. I'd seen enough of the Savagery. And I must admit that it felt nice being back home before 3.
 
Back at AJ's peak the debate was whether he or Larry Fitzgerald was greater. It surprised me to see the latter still playing well today.
 
macho grande said:
Seems like a lotta folk followed the normal routine and went "relieved" themselves soon as soon as the 1st half ended. Fools were streaming to the concourse. The vast majority stated in our seats and saluted 80..................I left as soon as the ceremony ended. I'd seen enough of the Savagery. And I must admit that it felt nice being back home before 3.
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Nah, that's pretty much how it looked the whole game.
 
infantrycak said:
You can't tell me a lot of folks didn't go to the bathroom and for food and drinks. It happens every half time and is why they have 500 tv's around the concourses.
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All I know is that there were a **** ton of empty seats from kickoff until the end of the game. I can't, however, tell you when any of the 48,000 or so in attendance went to the concessions or restrooms.
 
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