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The Jets got hosed. Patriots seem to get all the good calls at the right time just like they did against us.
 
Jamies Winston out with a shoulder injury, doubtful to return. Father time, I mean Ryan Fitzpatrick in the game.
 
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Cris Collinsworth when Brock Osweiler entered the game for the Broncos on Sunday Night Football.
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Sunday night ratings up, but Week Six sputters overall
Posted by Mike Florio on October 16, 2017, 5:38 PM EDT

Sunday’s Giants-Broncos game had far less appeal than it may have had, given the 0-5 record of the New York team entering the content. But it was still enough to spark an improvement over last year’s Sunday night game from Week Six.

Via SportsBusiness Daily, the overnight rating for Sunday Night Football increased to 10.9 from 9.0 a year ago in the same window. The 21.1-percent increase looks good in isolation, but last year’s Colts-Texans game also was the least-watched Sunday night game of the year.

Regardless, if the league’s detractors will point to year-to-year declines without regard to other factors, it’s fair to also consider evidence of a year-to-year increases among broadcasting windows as a positive. Unfortunately, that’s the only positive for the NFL from Week Six.

For the other Sunday windows, the numbers dropped from 2016. The Steelers-Chiefs game on CBS drew a 14.0 rating, down nearly 20 percent from last year’s Cowboys-Packers 17.4.

As the ratings slumped in 2016, many believed (hoped) that it was a one-year aberration, fueled by unprecedented interest in the presidential election. A post-election bump in the ratings contributed to the sense that, come 2017, normalcy would return.

For whatever reason, it hasn’t. And it’s incumbent on the league to figure out why it hasn’t, and what it needs to do to make it happen.

In an era where so much time and money has been spent trying to built interest in the NFL in other countries, the league possibly has taken for granted the saturation of the U.S. market. Based on the ratings from the last two seasons, it’s arguably time for the spouse of the administrator of the now-defunct @forargument account to come up with a way to lead the league back to where it was in 2015.

For starters, reaching a permanent solution to the anthem controversy on Tuesday won't hurt.
 
The Vikings have announced that Bridgewater has been cleared to practice this week. They hope to activate him by 2 weeks. But I don't see him ready to play in any games for at least 4 weeks.
 
You can say the same thing about Deshaun Watson right now. He's irreplaceable and Tom Savage isn't any good. We have no good QB option after #4.
 
TV ratings show most NFL teams losing local support
Posted by Michael David Smith on October 19, 2017, 9:04 AM EDT


The NFL’s national television ratings are down 7.5 percent this year, but it’s not just the national TV audience that’s struggling: The vast majority of teams are seeing their local ratings down as well.

According to Albert Breer of TheMMQB.com, 25 of 31 teams are drawing lower local numbers than they did in 2016. The Chargers aren’t included in that number because they’re playing in a new market this year, although it’s clear that the Chargers are struggling with their local fan base as well.

Most teams in the NFL are down by more than 5 percent. The Jets, playing in America’s biggest television market, are down a whopping 37 percent. Only three teams — the Chiefs, Buccaneers and Lions — have improved their local ratings by more than 5 percent.

Ratings fluctuate from week to week and year to year, and the NFL has mostly shrugged off the ratings decline of the last two years. But when virtually every team in the league is drawing fewer viewers on local television than last year, that points to a bigger problem than the NFL has publicly acknowledged.
 
Bridgewater has returned to practicing. I saw a video of him walking on the field......he had a distinct limp. His road back is still going to be a long and hard one.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
You can say the same thing about Deshaun Watson right now. He's irreplaceable and Tom Savage isn't any good. We have no good QB option after #4.
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Pretty much applies to 30 of 32 teams. The drop off from starter to back up is pretty steep. Except for Jacksonville and San Francisco. Bottles and Hoyer are bad enough the back ups look good.
 
Fvck Justin Timber-whoever and the SuperBowl halftime show. And Fvck NBC. Wasting time on an interview with a fvcking actor instead of covering games.
 
The Colts' S Malik Hooker looked to me as though he definitely suffered a torn MCL, but because of so much joint movement in an abnormal direction, I felt he probably took out his ACL also. Both injuries have now been confirmed...........................#41 since the beginning of TC / #43 since the beginning of the League year.
 
The 49ers look awful. At 0-7, I think Collin Kaepernick could still be quarterbacking that team and they'd at least be slightly better and probably win a game or two.

Kyle Shanahan is in over his head it looks like. I feel bad for him after blowing the Super Bowl with some bad play-calling late in the game. Now his head coaching career is off to a tough start. He's had some success as an elite offensive coordinator, and I'm grateful for his days in Houston, but lately he seems to have gone downhill since that epic meltdown in the Super Bowl.

And by the way, why is Ezekiel Elliot still playing? I thought he was going to finally serve his six-game suspension? I thought the judge in court allowed the NFL to suspend him? They upheld the decision or am I mistaken?

What's weird is that Elliot could have served the six-game suspension starting Week 1. And he'd be coming back this Sunday against the Washington Redskins. He could have put all of that behind him by now. And I'd argue that the Dallas Cowboys would have still gone 3-3 without him playing the first six games.
 
Too early to judge Shanahan. He's making lemonade right now. Sour lemonade, but lemonade none the less. Both sides of the ball you see flashes... it's only a matter of time, imo.
 
TexansBull said:
Pretty much applies to 30 of 32 teams. The drop off from starter to back up is pretty steep. Except for Jacksonville and San Francisco. Bottles and Hoyer are bad enough the back ups look good.
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Maybe more like 20 out of 32 teams? There's at least 12 NFL teams with absolutely horrible backup quarterbacks including the Houston Texans, which may have the worst of the worst.

We have a four-year pro at backup QB that hasn't thrown a career Touchdown pass. A guy that entered this season as the starter but was benched at halftime of Week 1. He was also the starter late last year but had gotten hurt, yet again, and Brock Osweiler started two playoff games instead of him. Tom Savage becomes a free agent after this season and I honestly don't see many reasons to re-sign him other than the fact he's a good "team guy" and knows the system. A good cheerleader in the quarterback room.

I look at what Case Keenum is doing with the Vikings right now, and I'm like wow, why couldn't we keep that guy here as our backup? And Bortles and Hoyer have their moments, at times, when they actually look more than capable. At the very least they have done some productive things at the NFL level unlike Savage.

Let's just hope that Deshaun Watson never gets hurt...
At least we have a superstar, franchise quarterback as a starter.
 
thunderkyss said:
Too early to judge Shanahan. He's making lemonade right now. Sour lemonade, but lemonade none the less. Both sides of the ball you see flashes... it's only a matter of time, imo.
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You may be right. The 49ers will need a couple drafts, at minimum, to really turn things around. He has a free ride for at least two seasons but by the third year they need to start showing some improvements. The good news is they're going to end up with either the #1 or #2 overall pick in the draft. The Browns are also 0-7. But picking high in every round will help them if their scouting is any good.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
Maybe more like 20 out of 32 teams? There's at least 12 NFL teams with absolutely horrible backup quarterbacks including the Houston Texans, which may have the worst of the worst.

We have a four-year pro at backup QB that hasn't thrown a career Touchdown pass. A guy that entered this season as the starter but was benched at halftime of Week 1. He was also the starter late last year but had gotten hurt, yet again, and Brock Osweiler started two playoff games instead of him. Tom Savage becomes a free agent after this season and I honestly don't see many reasons to re-sign him other than the fact he's a good "team guy" and knows the system. A good cheerleader in the quarterback room.

I look at what Case Keenum is doing with the Vikings right now, and I'm like wow, why couldn't we keep that guy here as our backup? And Bortles and Hoyer have their moments, at times, when they actually look more than capable. At the very least they have done some productive things at the NFL level unlike Savage.

Let's just hope that Deshaun Watson never gets hurt...
At least we have a superstar, franchise quarterback as a starter.
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Patriots, Colts, Chiefs, and Bengals have the best back up QB situation.

And i wouldn't say Savage is the worse as a back up. There is still Matt Schaub, Ryan Mallet, Brock Osweiller, Jake Rudock, Sean Mannion, and who ever is qb'ing the browns next week that I wouldn't pick over Savage.

The issue with Savage is more about his style of play as a back up for the Texans compared to that of DW. We need a mobile QB like a Jacoby Brisset, RG3, Kaepernick, Case Keenum or some other type of mobile QB. (not advocating any of those on the roster except Brisset and Keenum) Going from mobile QB to pure pocket passer would be difficult for the offense to adjust IMHO.

So no we don't have the worst back up situation, but it isn't ideal either. If your back up is playing considerable time your season is probably lost already. So planning for a guy who i never want on the field isn't up there on the to do list.

But at least we are talking about the back up qb instead of the starter. Am i right?
 
I was wrong about Carson Wentz.

I said it was too risky to use a first round pick on him being that he didn't play BCS ball, much less a 2nd overall.

& I know it's still early, but that dude is a baller.
 
thunderkyss said:
I was wrong about Carson Wentz.

I said it was too risky to use a first round pick on him being that he didn't play BCS ball, much less a 2nd overall.

& I know it's still early, but that dude is a baller.
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Same here. I thought he'd be a Flacco type player which isn't bad but not worth mortgaging the farm for. Wentz looks like the real deal.
 
I liked Goff more than Wentz but I liked them both.

Texian liked Wentz more than Goff. Looks like he got this one right. Although with McVay Goff looks like a better version of Cousins.
 
Jason Peters suffered what has been confirmed by MRI as an MCL and ACL..................#42 since the beginning of TC / #44 since the beginning of the League year.
 
Eagles LB Jordan Hicks suffered an Achilles tendon rupture yesterday. He ruptured his other Achilles at UT just 3 years ago. Unfortunately, this sequence is not that uncommon with Achilles and ACL ruptures.
 
steelbtexan said:
I liked Goff more than Wentz but I liked them both.

Texian liked Wentz more than Goff. Looks like he got this one right. Although with McVay Goff looks like a better version of Cousins.
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Personally had Wentz above Goff. And I liked Goff. Just Carson's combination of physical tools, grasp of pro passing concepts already, and seeming grinder work ethic for playing the game felt closer to a lock. That said it's nice to look back on everyone poo-poo'ing the two of them both going so early, and the big trades for them, and feel good about knowing what was there on tape. Those guys were doubted by countless people and their teams sh*t on for making the big moves to go get em. But the reasons to like them as pros were there all along, glad to see it coming together so nicely now. Bright futures all around.
 
If you had a chance to start a new franchise with Deshaun Watson or Carson Wentz as your quarterback... Who would you take? I'm taking Deshaun all day over Wentz, IMO. Both are great young men and talented quarterbacks.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
If you had a chance to start a new franchise with Deshaun Watson or Carson Wentz as your quarterback... Who would you take? I'm taking Deshaun all day over Wentz, IMO. Both are great young men and talented quarterbacks.
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Man... the homer in me says Watson, but Wentz is dropping dimes on the other side of the field. I don't mean other hashmark, I mean 50 yards downfield.


Dimes. & he's just as athletic as Watson. Understands the game just as well. Makes just as good decisions. But he's built more stoutly & so far appears more accurate.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
If you had a chance to start a new franchise with Deshaun Watson or Carson Wentz as your quarterback... Who would you take? I'm taking Deshaun all day over Wentz, IMO. Both are great young men and talented quarterbacks.
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Who is coaching them? Both QBs seem to be responding to the coaching they're getting. So with the right coaching staff supporting them, I don't think you can make a bad choice here.
 
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