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Brock Getting the Boys In Step Early

thunderkyss said:
Not honestly they couldn't.

  1. We don't know if Duane Brown's going to play this season & if he does, if he'll be the guy we need him to be, or when he'll even be ready to try.
  2. We've got options. I know we drafted a Center, & a RG. But those guys can play multiple positions. Oday Aboushi, he looks the part & he's got history with our OL coach. He may play a bigger role than we think. XSF can play guard, tackle, & center. I know he struggled as a rookie, but he can probably do well anywhere (RT) if he starts working on it now. Chris Clark, Jeff Adams, David Quessenberry... Guards/Tackles.....
  3. It's very possible that all five starting OL are new for 2016.

Then again, I think Denver is going through the same thing right now.
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XSF has his hands full learning to be an adequate guard without having to learn a new position. I'm very concerned about the OL and as much as I like the shiney new receivers, I see a power running offense to begin the season.
 
DocBar said:
XSF has his hands full learning to be an adequate guard without having to learn a new position. I'm very concerned about the OL and as much as I like the shiney new receivers, I see a power running offense to begin the season.
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They'll all have their hands full learning whatever we're going to be doing this year. Where ever they put any of them, the sooner they know the better. X is no different.
 
thunderkyss said:
They'll all have their hands full learning whatever we're going to be doing this year. Where ever they put any of them, the sooner they know the better. X is no different.
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I'd rather see the Texans keep as much stability as possible on the OL. That means Newton at RT and X at LG. The other three spots are anyone's guess. Hopefully DB makes it back to 80%+ of his former self, but there are zero guarantees.
 
No doubt. But it's not up to us. Most likely XSF plays LG, Martin plays Center, Allen plays RG, & Newton plays RT.

But even then, how do you compare that to Denver's 2015 OL? Center & RG are completely new to us, you'd have to sprinkle a healthy dose of optimism in there to imagine Newton starting again....

I'm just saying, we've got options.
 
thunderkyss said:
Not honestly they couldn't.

  1. We don't know if Duane Brown's going to play this season & if he does, if he'll be the guy we need him to be, or when he'll even be ready to try.
  2. We've got options. I know we drafted a Center, & a RG. But those guys can play multiple positions. Oday Aboushi, he looks the part & he's got history with our OL coach. He may play a bigger role than we think. XSF can play guard, tackle, & center. I know he struggled as a rookie, but he can probably do well anywhere (RT) if he starts working on it now. Chris Clark, Jeff Adams, David Quessenberry... Guards/Tackles.....
  3. It's very possible that all five starting OL are new for 2016.

Then again, I think Denver is going through the same thing right now.
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Actually, our OL last year was not all that good. We ended up as the 17th ranked OL while the Broncos 18th. This year, if things gel just right, our OL could be much better. Brooks was overrated. Allen should be a welcome upgrade. Newton performed relatively poorly at RT (believe he reinjured his surgical knee). All the other positions carry significant question marks. Still, there lies the potential some of the giants that were "sleeping" last season while our rookie begins to become a positive cog in the wheel.
 
Double Barrel said:
I do not think you are looking at their HATS. Just sayin'... :whistle: and I did say "most", which is not the same as "all"....

You were actin' like Brock looked like this:

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I'm not gonna lie, that did come to my mind when I saw that picture on Instagram. :ahhaha:
 
Brisco_County said:
We have no idea what this O-line will be, or what the QB will be. Game 1 is going to be like Christmas morning, except your parents were drunk when they did the shopping.
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Worse. We're going to be blowing the doors off everyone in the preseason. Our expectations are going to be completely unreasonable week 1.
 
Brisco_County said:
We have no idea what this O-line will be, or what the QB will be. Game 1 is going to be like Christmas morning, except your parents were drunk when they did the shopping.
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Well, I hope they weren't too drunk when they did the shopping! I really think the O-line could be the weakest link in not only this Offense but the whole team! But, I thought the same thing last year and was quite upset that they didn't draft any O-linemen in last years draft. And, if you recall, the beginning of the season they really had to do a lot of shuffling on the O-line due to injuries, XSF coming to camp out of shape, cutting Myers, and other things. They really struggled the 1st half of the season trying to find the right lineup from game to game that was healthy enough to play. I think that's when they picked up Aboushi and were playing him and Clark and Lamm in the lineup. I hope we don't go through that kind of thing again. I think they're going to have to start looking for some O-line replacements in the next draft. Drafting Martin and picking up Allen in FA is a start but they really need to look for DB's and Newton's replacements. DB is getting long in the tooth and injuries are starting to affect him and Newton's playing ability and playing time.
 
If Brock Osweiler starts slow what Texan will feel most heat?

A little over four years into his NFL career, Brock Osweiler is encountering an offseason he has never known. He's richer. He's more experienced. And most important, he's finally the centerpiece of an NFL franchise.

But Osweiler hasn't just arrived into the spotlight. For the Houston Texans, he is the spotlight.

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This is a pretty solid article. Much of it we already know, but I really liked what Brock is saying in interviews:

"I'm just trying to submerge myself, jump into the deep end and just get to work, just start swimming if you will," Osweiler said this week. "It started [working with the wide receivers at an Osweiler-directed meeting] in Arizona. I take that back – it started with signing with the team and then reaching out to everybody who was on the team via text message. Then bringing those receivers to Arizona, getting to know those guys as people and as athletes. Then coming back and starting Phase 1 here in Houston and getting to know teammates, doing some things off the field and over the weekends, getting a lot of work in … here at the facility or going over to the University of Houston and throwing routes over there. I've just tried to submerge myself with my new teammates as much as I possibly can, to get to know them as people and then also what this football team is going to be about."

"It's growing every single day and every single day matters, every rep matters, every rep is important," Osweiler said of his chemistry in the offense. "There's going to be some good plays and then [there's going to be] – I don't necessarily call them bad plays – I call them learning experiences. And those are going to be incompletions, interceptions, [wondering], 'Were we on the same page, were we not on the same page.' … That's really the phase that we're in right now. We're learning in the classroom, we're repping it one or two times and then we're trying to learn from it and get on the same page."
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Double Barrel said:
This is a pretty solid article. Much of it we already know, but I really liked what Brock is saying in interviews:
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If we come out slinging the ball left and right, I think we're going to lose a lot of games. Solid run game and an aggressive defense is what we need early. Let our new pretty boys get their stuff together while the big uglies win games.
 
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PapaL said:
If we come out slinging the ball left and right, I think we're going to lose a lot of games. Solid run game and an aggressive defense is what we need early. Let our new pretty boys get their stuff together while the big uglies win games.
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WHAT?!? Run a conservative offense based on our stud RB and solid defense?? Kubiak, is that you?
No one wins a superb owl like that!!
...well maybe Kubiak last year
...and Pete Carroll with beast mode...
...and Pittsburgh with The Bus....
...and Shannahan/Elway with Terrell Davis
...and Parcells with Ottis Anderson

ummm... nvr mnd; let me get back to you
:D


errr, why have we been begging for WR speed instead of a stud RB all this time??
 
Wolf6151 said:
I realize they're not still in Arizona, but does anyone know if Osweiller and the WR's are still working together on their own time? I need more stories that this team is jelling.
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Brock and the rest of the guys are still working together on their own time. They've been spotted showing up to practice at U of H. There have a few reports on this. So, worry not my son...
 
PapaL said:
If we come out slinging the ball left and right, I think we're going to lose a lot of games. Solid run game and an aggressive defense is what we need early. Let our new pretty boys get their stuff together while the big uglies win games.
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I think a lot of it will come down to how defenses play the Texans. If they stuff the box to shut down the run, Brock will be forced to throw the ball until the opposing defenses respect the passing game. The key will be limiting turnovers and sustaining some drives to keep the Texans defense from being worn out by fourth quarters in games.
 
ObsiWan said:
WHAT?!? Run a conservative offense based on our stud RB and solid defense?? Kubiak, is that you?
No one wins a superb owl like that!!
...well maybe Kubiak last year
...and Pete Carroll with beast mode...
...and Pittsburgh with The Bus....
...and Shannahan/Elway with Terrell Davis
...and Parcells with Ottis Anderson

ummm... nvr mnd; let me get back to you
:D


errr, why have we been begging for WR speed instead of a stud RB all this time??
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Maybe it is the stud defenses that are the common theme?

Patriots have junk backs on their Superbowl runs.
Packers too
Giants weren't great at RB.

Think D has more say than style of O
 
kiwitexansfan said:
Maybe it is the stud defenses that are the common theme?

Patriots have junk backs on their Superbowl runs.
Packers too
Giants weren't great at RB.

Think D has more say than style of O
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I think it's about the team: the D, the O, and the ST. Great in one area can help offset/hide problems in other areas, combine that with a little luck, and you can go all the way.

OMG.

I just described complementary football.

smh
 
There is no doubt where Brock's full allegiance lies now. :clap::clap::clap::clap:

Brock Osweiler Opts To Stay in Houston Than Attended White House Celebration With the Broncos
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SOTT Staff
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Brock Osweiler opts to stay in Houston and work with the Texans than visit the White House with his former team.

With his former team the Denver Broncos scheduled to make the trip to the White House for winning Super Bowl XL last season, Brock Osweiler has opted to stay in Houston with his new team to continue to work towards the 2016 season. The Broncos are scheduled to visit the White House on Monday but the Texans new signal caller will not be among one of them.

Osweiler released the following statement regarding the situation.

"The Broncos graciously extended an invitation for me to join them at The White House on Monday, but due to a scheduled OTA in Houston, I feel it is important to be at practice with my new teammates. It's a new offensive system for me and every practice and rep is extremely important. I am very appreciative of the Broncos wanting to include me on this special day."

The Texans have one more week of OTAs until Mandatory Mini-camp starts and he is set to continue to get to work with his current team.

This should come as little surprise, especially with the amount of work needed for Osweiler to get the Texans offense down before training camp arrives. There may be more to the story but one thing is clear, Osweiler is more interested in his future than his past.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
There is no doubt where Brock's full allegiance lies now. :clap::clap::clap::clap:

Brock Osweiler Opts To Stay in Houston Than Attended White House Celebration With the Broncos
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SOTT Staff
5:28 PM
Brock Osweiler opts to stay in Houston and work with the Texans than visit the White House with his former team.

With his former team the Denver Broncos scheduled to make the trip to the White House for winning Super Bowl XL last season, Brock Osweiler has opted to stay in Houston with his new team to continue to work towards the 2016 season. The Broncos are scheduled to visit the White House on Monday but the Texans new signal caller will not be among one of them.

Osweiler released the following statement regarding the situation.

"The Broncos graciously extended an invitation for me to join them at The White House on Monday, but due to a scheduled OTA in Houston, I feel it is important to be at practice with my new teammates. It's a new offensive system for me and every practice and rep is extremely important. I am very appreciative of the Broncos wanting to include me on this special day."

The Texans have one more week of OTAs until Mandatory Mini-camp starts and he is set to continue to get to work with his current team.

This should come as little surprise, especially with the amount of work needed for Osweiler to get the Texans offense down before training camp arrives. There may be more to the story but one thing is clear, Osweiler is more interested in his future than his past.
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No biggie. He can visit the White House next June with his current teammates.
 
I hope to see Os in the top 5 for the rest of his career.

Brock Osweiler: His numbers against the blitz were far better than Peyton Manning’s last season. Osweiler led the NFL in yards per attempt (9.83) and passer rating (114.6) against pressure looks. Manning was 24th and 26th, respectively, in those categories. Osweiler has just seven career starts, so it’s a small sample size, but his success against pressure is an encouraging sign forHouston Texans fans.
 
Brock Osweiler and DeAndre Hopkins Forming a Strong Bond For the Houston Texans
PATRICK STARR
Yesterday at 9:03 AM\


Brock Osweiler and DeAndre Hopkins could be the next big thing in Houston with their new bond on the football field.

It started with a text message shortly after Brock Osweiler was signed by the Houston Texans at the opening of free agency. The new Texans signal caller texted all of his teammates to let them know he was ready to work with them as their new quarterback.DeAndre Hopkins and Osweiler, along with other teammates, traveled to Arizona before the start of OTAs to get to work and begin their journey together on the field.

Fast forward to to the start of OTAs. Osweiler and Hopkins are getting accustomed to each other in the offense and there have been some early returns for the duo.

Hopkins likes what he is seeing from the Texans new quarterback.

“He’s a leader. He’s talkative,” explained Hopkins. “If he sees something that he knows he can help us out with, then he’ll speak out. He’s not the QB that’s going to hold his opinion. If he sees something he can do better or we can do better, he’s a true leader in the offensive room.”

Osweiler had positive remarks for his new go-to wide receiver, as well.

“Hop is a very unique wide receiver,” Osweiler explained. “He’s a wide receiver that you love to have on your side. With him, I don’t know if there is anything that’s really not catchable as long as you put it in bounds. That’s very comforting as a quarterback. He’s always saying ‘just throw it up, I’ll go get it.’ As a quarterback, you love hearing that.”

The two can be seen discussing the offense during practice and have been able to create some issues for an experienced Texans secondary. Osweiler is learning what “just throw it up” means, and it is showing in the situations Hopkins excels at: one-on-one coverage.

Their early work in Arizona has carried into OTAs and even coach Bill O’Brien took notice.

“I definitely did because I think that we were ahead communication-wise,” said O’Brien. “Because I think when those receivers went out there, they talked to Brock about route names, signals and all kinds of different things.”

Every quarterback needs a go-to player in the passing game and these two are doing everything possible to make sure they are on the same page heading into the season. It starts with the knowing each other on the field and how to work together within the offensive scheme.

“Hop and I have a tremendous relationship,” Osweiler said. “It’s one of those deals where I just respect his work ethic. I respect that he comes to work every day and he works to be great. He wants to get better every single day.”

Hopkins added, “We text outside of here. We don’t go out to lunch and hold hands, but we’re good friends.”

Relationships are important and the Osweiler and Hopkins duo could be the next big thing in Houston.
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I find it interesting that Os refers to him as Hop and not Nuk. Maybe it's a comfort thing, maybe it's just a fan thing?
 
This joint article also includes additional tidbits about updates.

Texans report: Brock Osweiler likely taking playbook with him on vacation
By John McClain and Aaron Wilson

June 10, 2016 Updated: June 10, 2016 9:14pm
Brock Osweiler, Texans
Based on what the Texans know about quarterback Brock Osweiler, he will spend most, if not all, of his five-week vacation studying the playbook rather than sitting on the beach and soaking up the sun in some exotic locale.

Now that the 10 organized team activities are over, the Texans have their three-day minicamp next week before taking off until training camp.


"I still have a long way to go," Osweiler said about his knowledge of Bill O'Brien's system. "There's a lot I still have to learn.

"There's a lot I still need to rep on the practice field and things we need to talk through."

O'Brien couldn't be happier with what he has seen so far of Osweiler on and off the field.

"So far, he's been exactly what we've expected," O'Brien said. "He works extremely hard. He's a very bright guy. He's a good communicator with his teammates. He's very hard on himself."

Osweiler hasn't been all work and no play. He has shown his coaches and teammates he has a good sense of humor, too.

"He's a fun guy to be around, a fun guy to coach - very competitive on the field," O'Brien said. "He's been exactly what we expected to this point.

"We all know the nature of the deal. We all have to go out and coach well and play well when the season starts. That's the key. That's what we're building toward."


Shorts gives WRsa role model

Receiver Cecil Shorts III is 28 and the oldest member of the Texans' receivers. They have two rookies (Will Fuller and Braxton Miller) and two (Jaelen Strong and Keith Mumphery) entering their second seasons.

Shorts, playing in his sixth season, including his second with the Texans, sets a good example for his younger teammates.

"Cecil's a guy that's going out there and giving you his all," Pro Bowl receiver DeAndre Hopkins said. "Even if he's hurt, he's going out there. You'll have to tell him to go on the sideline and get checked out.

"He's a hard worker. He definitely makes me work harder every day. He doesn't complain about anything, even if he's not getting the ball."



QBs workingin harmony

Brock Osweiler and the quarterbacks meet with their coaches at 7 a.m. He spends a lot of time with Tom Savage and Brandon Weeden, both of whom are helping ease Osweiler's transition from the Broncos to the Texans.

Osweiler was asked about his impressions of Savage, who enters his third season.

"With Tom, what's not to like?" he said. "First of all, Tom's a tremendous person. He's a tremendous teammate. He works his tail off in the meeting room, in the weight room and on the practice field. He's a guy that you want in your corner."

Savage and his receivers worked out in Arizona before Osweiler signed. Then, Osweiler, Savage and the receivers returned to Phoenix to work out together.

"As far as Tom helping me make the transition into this offense, he's been great," Osweiler said. "Starting in Arizona, we had lots of conversations about the language of our offense, the verbiage of the offense.

"Tom and Brandon, we're all pushing for each other to do great. We're all in each other's corner. On the practice field, if the other guy is going and the other two are out, we sit there and we have conversations about football. We pick each other's brain."



Watching fromthe sideline

Veteran outside linebacker Whitney Mercilus remained sidelined Friday with a hamstring injury.

The injury isn't regarded as long term, and Mercilus has been increasing his activity over the past week.

Mercilus recorded a career-high dozen sacks last season, adding three more during a playoff loss to the Kansas City Chiefs.

Starting tight end C.J. Fiedorowicz didn't practice due to a hamstring injury suffered last week. Like Mercilus, it's not regarded as a serious injury. Tight end Ryan Griffin is still out with an Achilles injury and isn't expected to return to practice until training camp.

With Fiedorowicz and Griffin not practicing, undrafted rookie tight end Stephen Anderson has capitalized on the heavier workload with a series of catches.

Also not practicing were rookie cornerback Richard Leonard (hamstring surgery), rookie running back Tyler Ervin (quadriceps), Pro Bowl alternate left tackle Duane Brown (quadriceps surgery), inside linebacker Max Bullough, offensive linemen Jeff Adams (knee surgery) and Greg Mancz (knee surgery), cornerbacks Johnathan Joseph (knee surgery), Charles James (foot surgery) and Kevin Johnson (foot surgery, wrist surgery) and rookie wide receiver Wendall Williams
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Tania Ganguli ESPN Staff Writer

Although Texans coach Bill O'Brien acknowledges quarterback Brock Osweiler has made his share of mistakes, he added that Osweiler is making very few mistakes with "the operation of the offense." Osweiler's ability to learn how the offense operates has impressed O'Brien the most. "I've seen some good leadership out of him."
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Doc, like a beer drinker thinks of joint as a place to imbibe, I think of joint in your first sentence and think knee, hip or elbow. I know but ....
 
Tania Ganguli ESPN Staff Writer

Brock Osweiler is asked to compare his dad as a coach to Bill O'Brien as a coach. "My dad had an undefeated record in Pop Warner football. We did tie a game, but for three years we were undefeated, so that's all I'm going to say about that," he said with a smile.
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A very detailed look at all aspects of the "no-huddle offense."

No-huddle offense can produce immediate returns for young QBs
Bucky Brooks
NFL Media analysis
Published: June 20, 2016 at 04:11 p.m.
Updated: June 20, 2016 at 05:58 p.m.

Who are some of the other young QBs with the tools to go no-huddle?
As discussed above, the Jaguars, Buccaneers and Raiders are looking to expand their no-huddle packages in 2016. Who else would be wise to consider taking this approach?

Well, I think Brock Osweiler could excel in a no-huddle offense in Houston. The Texans' marquee free-agent signee efficiently directed an up-tempo offense at Arizona State under Noel Mazzone, which is why Bill O'Brien could opt to mix in some no-huddle to help his young passer find a rhythm in H-Town. By granting the fifth-year pro -- and first-time No. 1 QB -- the freedom to run the show from the line of scrimmage, O'Brien can allow Osweiler to push the pace and keep opponents from attacking him with a host of exotic blitzes and pre-snap disguises to exploit his inexperience (only seven NFL starts). In addition, the rapid pace will prevent opponents from using creative coverages to double-team or bracket DeAndre Hopkins on the perimeter.

Oh, and just in case you forgot, O'Brien was on the Patriots' offensive staff that began to torch the NFL by incorporating spread and no-huddle components. He could lean on that experience to add a little juice to a Texans offense that has some serious firepower on the perimeter (rookies Will Fuller and Braxton Miller have explosive potential).
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CloakNNNdagger said:
A very detailed look at all aspects of the "no-huddle offense."
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Man, I hope they put some of this in their schemes. That's one of the things I liked, the few times when "Mallethead" was in there, was the fast pace they were running on the Offense. I remember it worked really well against Cleveland in that 1st game he played. That's what gave me hope he could be a really good QB for the Texans, but things just didn't work out that way. Brock is much more mobile than Mallet and has a better head on his shoulders. So, if they could put some no huddle, hurry up Offense in there, and Brock can get rid of the ball quickly, I think the Texans could be very dangerous! Going to be an interesting season! :gotexans1
 
Insideop said:
Man, I hope they put some of this in their schemes. That's one of the things I liked, the few times when "Mallethead" was in there, was the fast pace they were running on the Offense. I remember it worked really well against Cleveland in that 1st game he played. That's what gave me hope he could be a really good QB for the Texans, but things just didn't work out that way. Brock is much more mobile than Mallet and has a better head on his shoulders. So, if they could put some no huddle, hurry up Offense in there, and Brock can get rid of the ball quickly, I think the Texans could be very dangerous! Going to be an interesting season! :gotexans1
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Uptempo is BOB's memo for his offense. We will see uptempo this season.


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CloakNNNdagger said:
Osweiler explains how he is learning the playbook.

Brock Osweiler diving right in to his Texans quarterback education
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Good article CND! :thumbup I just hope Osweiler can live up to all the Texans' expectations this season. I'm expecting some growing pains with all the new offensive players and a pretty tough schedule the 1st 7 games and hope they can get the kinks worked out before it's too late in the season. I'm hoping for a 10 to 11 win season but realistically I can see a 7 or 8 win season also especially if the offense never gets it together. And, of course the injuries can always mess up a season too.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Osweiler explains how he is learning the playbook.

Brock Osweiler diving right in to his Texans quarterback education
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Great find Doc! Loving this guy's work ethic. Will be watching with great interest during the preseason to see how he has progressed

And this paragraph tells me O'Brien had little interest in drafting a QB and hitching the upcoming season to that rookie.
"For a rookie quarterback to come in and be able to run this offense would be extremely difficult," O'Brien says. "First of all, they're getting adjusted to pro football. The time, totally different. From 7:30 in the morning to 5:30 at night, it's all football. They have to get adjusted to that, get adjusted to a new city.
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ObsiWan said:
Great find Doc! Loving this guy's work ethic. Will be watching with great interest during the preseason to see how he has progressed

And this paragraph tells me O'Brien had little interest in drafting a QB and hitching the upcoming season to that rookie.
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While I agree with this somewhat, I think he is selling guys short.
 
JB said:
He never said it couldn't be done... just difficult. You don't agree?
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I think it's a bad philosophy. Yes there are some growing pains but avoiding rookies QBs is way too limiting. Good vets are practically hens teeth.
 
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