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Potential Free Agents

CloakNNNdagger said:
How is FA going, Rick????

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This picture just about sums it up.
 
People need to stop freaking out. We are up against the cap and were not going to be big shoppers. We all knew this going in. Yet that never stops people from losing it because we haven't signed 3 starters yet.

There are still plenty of guys still out there that can come in and contribute to this team. No reason to get caught up in the feeding frenzy that is the first few days of Free Agency and do something stupid. Here's a list of some guys who are still available. Many of them could be had for cheap if there is slow market for them.


OT
Donald Penn, 31
Zach Strief, 31
David Stewart, 32
Michael Oher, 28
Eric Winston, 30
Ryan Harris, 29
Winston Jutice, 29
Tyson Clabo, 32
Eben Britton, 26

OG
Travelle Wharton, 33
Kevin Boothe, 31
Davin Joseph, 30
Uche Nwaneri, 30
Daryn Colledge, 32
Willie Colon, 31
Harvey Dahl, 33
Vladimir Ducasse, 26
Wade Smith, 33

NT
B.J. Raji, 28
Vince Wilfork, 32 (if cut)
Cam Thomas, 27
Terrence Cody, 26
Aubrayo Franklin, 34
Vance Walker, 27
Pat Sims, 28

DE
Antonio Smith, 32
Jason Hatcher, 32
Corey Wootton, 27
Alex Carrington, 27
Will Smith, 33
Johnny Jolly, 31
Israel Idonije, 33
Adam Carriker, 30

OLB
LaMarr Woodley, 29
Anthony Spencer, 30
Calvin Pace, 33
Shaun Phillips, 33
Parys Haralson, 30
Robert Ayers, 28
Daniel Te'o-Nesheim, 26
Lawrence Sidbury, 28
Phillip Hunt, 28

ILB
Wesley Woodyard, 28
Daryl Smith, 32
Brandon Spikes, 26
Stephen Nicholas, 31
Erin Henderson, 28
Larry Foote, 34
Nick Barnett, 33
Jonathan Vilma, 32
Ernie Sims, 29
Arthur Moats, 26
Dan Connor, 28
Akeem Jordan, 28
Pat Angerer, 27
Jameel McClain, 29
Will Witherspoon, 34
 
WolverineFan said:
People need to stop freaking out. We are up against the cap and were not going to be big shoppers. We all knew this going in. Yet that never stops people from losing it because we haven't signed 3 starters yet.

There are still plenty of guys still out there that can come in and contribute to this team. No reason to get caught up in the feeding frenzy that is the first few days of Free Agency and do something stupid. Here's a list of some guys who are still available. Many of them could be had for cheap if there is slow market for them.
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Repped.
 
All we have done since midpoint last season is unload starters while only signing a few un-impactful players...it's time to worry!
 
WolverineFan said:
People need to stop freaking out. We are up against the cap and were not going to be big shoppers. We all knew this going in. Yet that never stops people from losing it because we haven't signed 3 starters yet.

There are still plenty of guys still out there that can come in and contribute to this team. No reason to get caught up in the feeding frenzy that is the first few days of Free Agency and do something stupid. Here's a list of some guys who are still available. Many of them could be had for cheap if there is slow market for them....
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Totally agree. It's kinda funny to read through this thread. What did people expect was going to happen? The top teams in the league build through the draft and add complementary pieces through FA. No reason to put your 2-14 team in salary cap hell by making bad deals on the first few days of FA. Wait it out and find the guys that are bargains.
 
Sorry if this has been posted, and I don't know how to put up tweets but..

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
#Patriots Pro Bowl DT Vince Wilfork has asked that the team release him after 10 seasons in New England, according to sources.
Twitter

Idk how much money he's looking for, but maybe he wants to play for his old coach Romeo Crennel, even though it was for one year.. maybe I'm just a dreamer
 
Free agency is important, but so is the draft, and so is who's left standing after pre-season. We got a long ways to go before we start smashing the panic button.
 
gtexan02 said:
2-14 last year and less tLent on the roster. Playoffs!
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Going off this, up in Philly, most Eagles fans were mostly worried, doom and gloom etc. Now they can't STFU AGAIN about how great the team is. It's amazing what a new (good) regime can do for a team


Your man... Pots and pans
 
The1ApplePie said:
So, are the Texans so cash-strapped that they can't even make a run at second-tier players like Lamar Woodley, Tyson Jackson, or Brandon Spikes?

D-Ware or Revis weren't ever coming obviously, but I was hoping for some average free agents to fill some holes. Aren't there only two defensive linemen on the roster? Cam Thomas and Ziggy Hood are out there.
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There is a reason why jackson,woodley,hood,and spikes are free agents. Its either age,injury,or production. Who wants to overpay for guys like that. You wait and the closer it gets to the draft,the better the price. After this 2 week run,teams go back to their draft stuff. Players and agents know this. So a guy like woodley who had 37 sacks in his first 3 yrs but 13 in his last 3,he's gonna take a below avg deal. Tyson jackson who went to atl isn't worth much of anything and that's why kc didn't even bother. Spikes is young and solid and ne didn't even offer him anything.

Let those teams trying to make a splash spend the money and then moving in and get quality players cheap.
 
bah007 said:
Totally agree. It's kinda funny to read through this thread. What did people expect was going to happen? The top teams in the league build through the draft and add complementary pieces through FA. No reason to put your 2-14 team in salary cap hell by making bad deals on the first few days of FA. Wait it out and find the guys that are bargains.
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Yet teams like the Patriots and Broncos are making early big FA signings, they both help build a team.
 
imatexan said:
Yet teams like the Patriots and Broncos are making early big FA signings, they both help build a team.
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The Patriots and Broncos aren't "building" anything. Its already been built. They're adding pieces to complement what they already have. The Bucs showed the past few years that just going out and making big splashes early doesn't always translate to wins. The Texans have way too many holes to fill than to overspend on 1 or 2 pieces that won't make a huge difference.
 
I also trust that the new hires in the pro scouting department may find some diamonds in the rough that we normally would've overlooked in previous years.
 
Texn4life said:
The Patriots and Broncos aren't "building" anything. Its already been built. They're adding pieces to complement what they already have. The Bucs showed the past few years that just going out and making big splashes early doesn't always translate to wins. The Texans have way too many holes to fill than to overspend on 1 or 2 pieces that won't make a huge difference.
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I agree and pats and broncos are somewhat on the clock with their QBs. It could take the texans 3 years to determine who the QB of the future is and there is no point in putting yourself through cap hell, just to get people excited.
 
imatexan said:
Yet teams like the Patriots and Broncos are making early big FA signings, they both help build a team.
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Big difference between the Pats, Broncos and Texans......2-14

Anyone that was expecting the Texans to reel in a top tier FA with our crappy 2-14 record and limited cap # was fooling themselves.

We will sign several FAs this Summer, but they will be JAGS. JAGs, draft picks and UDFAs will fill the remaining roster spots.
 
HOU-TEX said:
Big difference between the Pats, Broncos and Texans......2-14
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Even bigger difference: arguable GOAT QB aged 36 or 37 v. QB ?

Those two teams cannot look at the distant future for return on their QB investment.

And someone on the Broncos is well aware - the oldest QBs to win SBs are Elway (38), Unitas (37) and Elway (37).
 
Dutchrudder said:
You said "I am suggesting guys who can be had cheap and on short term deals." I'm saying I don't think SS or BB will be cheap for the Texans. We don't have much money to play with right now, and I doubt Steve Smith will come here unless we are the highest bidder. I think Smith will get an offer of about 5m APY for a couple years from a contender. I don't think he would choose the Texans unless we make a much higher offer in the 7m+ range.
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Steve Smith just went for 3 years $10.5 to the Ravens. $3.5 mil/yr.

I wasn't too far at $4.
 
Texn4life said:
The Patriots and Broncos aren't "building" anything. Its already been built. They're adding pieces to complement what they already have. The Bucs showed the past few years that just going out and making big splashes early doesn't always translate to wins. The Texans have way too many holes to fill than to overspend on 1 or 2 pieces that won't make a huge difference.
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They are building, every team who is adding players is building to improve their roster. If they were perfect then they wouldn't need to add players but obviously they do.

I didn't say anything about making a big splash, I could care less about getting one high payed player(although certain big name players could benefit the Texans). We have made NO moves, the only moves we have made are getting rid of pour players and now we are at practice squad caliber players as starters. Yes I know this is the start of FA and we still have the draft but you make my point by saying the Texans have many holes to fill so they need to start doing it sometime and that sometime is now.
 
HOU-TEX said:
Big difference between the Pats, Broncos and Texans......2-14

Anyone that was expecting the Texans to reel in a top tier FA with our crappy 2-14 record and limited cap # was fooling themselves.

We will sign several FAs this Summer, but they will be JAGS. JAGs, draft picks and UDFAs will fill the remaining roster spots.
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The draft picks and UDFAs will be part of the process regardless, I don't know how this translates to us not making any FA moves starting now to fill the obvious many holes we have.

The we are bad so we don't need to make any moves mentality makes no sense to me, especially in the NFL. This is not MLB where you rebuild for years, from season to season a football team can go from a winner to loser or vice versa( ex. Texans/Chiefs).
 
McNair told us this wasn't a rebuild. He hired a coach that had experience because he wanted a quick turn around.

When you're 2-14 you can't sit around and hope that journeyman free agents will come in and play like all pros. I'm just disappointed that we don't even seem to be trying.

We've taken a 2-14 team and removed some key pieces that kept us from going 0-16 including Smith, Tate, etc.

We've tried building through the draft since our existence. When we've spent over a decade 'rebuilding' it starts to get frustrating. I honestly don't believe that if we had the first 7 picks in the draft instead of the first pick in each round that we'd be competitors next year. It's a hard realization
 
imatexan said:
They are building, every team who is adding players is building to improve their roster. If they were perfect then they wouldn't need to add players but obviously they do.

I didn't say anything about making a big splash, I could care less about getting one high payed player(although certain big name players could benefit the Texans). We have made NO moves, the only moves we have made are getting rid of pour players and now we are at practice squad caliber players as starters. Yes I know this is the start of FA and we still have the draft but you make my point by saying the Texans have many holes to fill so they need to start doing it sometime and that sometime is now.
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Have you seen the ridiculous overpaying that's going on right now? The Texans aren't exactly sitting in a position where they can afford to do that based on the salary cap situation. The worst thing that the Texans can do right now is mortgage the future by shelling out bad contracts. The holes on the team will be filled reasonably. They're not just going to shell out millions to get guys signed just to appease the fan base. When the FO felt like we were just a few players away they made moves early in free agency. That's not the case this year. Let a lot of the higher tier free agents sign, set the market, and then become players after the first wave is over. Its the smart and logical thing to do at this point.
 
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imatexan said:
The draft picks and UDFAs will be part of the process regardless, I don't know how this translates to us not making any FA moves starting now to fill the obvious many holes we have <Snip >
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There's that Cap Space thing ya know? There's no a whole lot of sense in "pooring" more money into big names that aren't going to make the impact that will get us to where we want/need to be. Shirley you've been exposed to the results of the the teams that have taken that approach and how well said teams have prospered doing so.

(insert Obis' "grasshopper") meme here.
 
The Jets are going to have to release Sanchez because of his contract cap hit which is even worse than Schaub's. Restructuring to keep him in NY WOULD create a riot.......it's NY!

The Raiders are now looking at Sanchez in addition to Schaub........looks like their choice could be the first to be released. The Browns could then be the only legitimate "partner" left.
 
Michael Oher signed by Titans. According to Adam Schefter, it’s a four-year, $20 million deal that includes $9.5 million guaranteed. Would have been a good addition for Texans at RT.
 
Texian said:
Barely, Oher grades and rank are just above (a tad better) Newton according to profootballfocus.com
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He did have a poor year. But he sustained a severe right ankle sprain in Sept which he characterized as "the worst of my career." Like Newton with his patellar tendon surgery, Oher was never given time to recover and was dogged by it the rest of the season. You could actually see him limping during many of the games.
 
gtexan02 said:
I'm seeing a lot of reasonable deals for players that could have made a huge impact input team.
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The first wave of FA is over. Most of the overpaying is done. This is now the second wave of FA where more reasonable signings occur. There are still quite a few guys out there who could contribute for us.
 
infantrycak said:
Steve Smith just went for 3 years $10.5 to the Ravens. $3.5 mil/yr.

I wasn't too far at $4.
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Some guy at NFL.com says it's 12m total with 3.5m signing bonus.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000334172/article/steve-smith-baltimore-ravens-agree-to-contract

Yahoo said it was 11.5m total, Twitter said 10.5m when it was announced. I guess we shall have to wait and see what the actual number is, but 4m seems to be about right. I think it will end up being higher once the full numbers are released, because it will likely be a 2 year deal close to 9m in total cost.

In any case, I don't think he would have accepted the same offer from the Texans. We are not an enticing destination for a guy on the last year or two of his career. Steve Smith wants a ring, and Baltimore is probably a good place to go for him.
 
List of defensive FA's still available....

DE
Corey Wootton, 27
Alex Carrington, 27
Letroy Guion, 27
Brandon Deaderick, 27
Adam Carriker, 30
Johnny Jolly, 31
Israel Idonije, 33
Jason Hunter, 31
Kevin Williams, 34

NT
Aubrayo Franklin, 34
Terrence Cody, 26
Ryan Pickett, 34
Pat Sims, 28
Isaac Sopoaga, 32

OLB
Anthony Spencer, 30
Parys Haralson, 30
Shaun Phillips, 33
Calvin Pace, 33
Robert Ayers, 28
Lawrence Sidbury, 28
Phillip Hunt, 28
O'Brien Schofield, 27

ILB
Akeem Jordan, 28
Pat Angerer, 27
Arthur Moats, 26
Erin Henderson, 28
Jonathan Vilma, 32
Desmond Bishop, 30
Larry Foote, 34
Stephen Nicholas, 31
Nick Barnett, 33
Ernie Sims, 29
Will Witherspoon, 34
Dan Connor, 28

CB
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, 28
Antonio Cromartie, 30
Walter Thurmond, 27
Terrell Thomas, 29
Antonie Cason, 28
Josh Wilson, 30
Rashean Mathis, 34
Carlos Rogers, 33
Drayton Florence, 33
Javier Arenas, 26
Aaron Ross, 31
A.J. Jefferson, 26
Dominique Franks, 26

S
Charles Woodson, 37
Chris Clemons, 28
James Ihedigbo, 30
Kendrick Lewis, 26
Major Wright, 26
Mike Adams, 33
Thomas DeCoud, 29
Roman Harper, 31
Nate Allen, 26
Craig Steltz, 28
Patrick Chung, 27
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
He did have a poor year. But he sustained a severe right ankle sprain in Sept which he characterized as "the worst of my career." Like Newton with his patellar tendon surgery, Oher was never given time to recover and was dogged by it the rest of the season. You could actually see him limping during many of the games.
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^^^This is called^^^^ Doing your homework and Knowing your subject matter. Which apparently I did neither.
 
drs23 said:
There's that Cap Space thing ya know? There's no a whole lot of sense in "pooring" more money into big names that aren't going to make the impact that will get us to where we want/need to be. Shirley you've been exposed to the results of the the teams that have taken that approach and how well said teams have prospered doing so.

(insert Obis' "grasshopper") meme here.
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I have no clue how y'all get pouring money into players is the same as signing players at positions where we currently have practice squad players as starters.
 
The Bob Smith era is off to an inauspicious start to say the least. They do realize the goal is to win games right? :kitten:
 
Porky said:
The Bob Smith era is off to an inauspicious start to say the least...
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"Inauspious"? Possibly, but not unusual or unexpected. It is not the MO of the Texans' organization to be active in the first wave of FA signings. We'll sign some FA players.
 
John McClain &#8207;@McClain_on_NFL
When Schaub traded, Texans will add $3.93 million to their cap, making them... 10.23 under cap. That's plenty of room to sign more lunch-pail types in free agency. They're desperate for help in D line.
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