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abc13 - peyton wants to be a texan coming up in sports

Yeah....great report Bob Allen......
Think Bob is already thinking about his retirement.....
"Definetly, Possibly".......yeah....thats hilarious Bob.....great wordage there.....
And he admitted he screwed up the report......

I think he just wanted to get some ratings......well he did.....and useless sports talk too.....good job Bob.....
 
rush2112mn said:
Yeah....great report Bob Allen......
Think Bob is already thinking about his retirement.....
"Definetly, Possibly".......yeah....thats hilarious Bob.....great wordage there.....
And he admitted he screwed up the report......

I think he just wanted to get some ratings......well he did.....and useless sports talk too.....good job Bob.....
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Great "wordage"? You mean "English"?

And you can't spell "definitely", but you're criticizing him?

If you couldn't understand what he said, that's obviously your problem, not his. The story was perfectly clear - to most of us.
 
Bob Allen was on 610, the J&R segment and he said he saw the text from one of the manning family that Peyton had list of teams he liked and the texans were near (?) the top of his list to go to. He (Bob) screwed up saying the possibilty.
 
I can't decide what this thread is more like: Woody Allen talking about God or this...

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:yap
 
edo783 said:
Bob Allen was on 610, the J&R segment and he said he saw the text from one of the manning family that Peyton had list of teams he liked and the texans were near (?) the top of his list to go to. He (Bob) screwed up saying the possibilty.
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I agree that the wording came out funny, but Bob Allen is a respected sports anchor in Houston, and the way they clowned him on the radio was just out of line in my view. Those jokers are the clowns in my view.
 
ObsiWan said:
Finally, I don't trust Manning. If he can't be totally straight - about his health - with the folks who have been paying him all these years, why the helll would he be straight with us? Yeah, we could send him thru a battery of performance checks but we've been burnt by those before (see Tony Boselli).
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You know what else? The report that came out recently where it said Peyton wanted to come into the game vs. Texans to run all of the Colts' red zone plays.

He wanted to come into the game against MY team and clown us.

That's the confirmation I needed, in order to solidify my opinion that we don't need to throw him a bone when we done beat the dog **** out of him and his team. We built this team to beat the Colts, don't acquire the guy (Manning) who was the head figure (literally AND figuratively, btw) of that team.

Colts and Manning can shrivel away to obscurity for all I care. Good riddance.
 
Marcus said:
You need to remember that Schaub's injured foot is his plant foot. Mobility doesn't concern me. His ability to accurately throw the ball from pushing off on that plant foot does.
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Accuracy doesn't concern me as much in this case as throw power will. Without the ability to properly push off of his plant foot, that ball will be much more likely to nosedive into the ground.
 
What is Schaubs status?

Is he walking on crutches? Or with a boot?

Does anyone know where he's at in the rehab process? Or where he should be?
 
Rey said:
What is Schaubs status?

Is he walking on crutches? Or with a boot?

Does anyone know where he's at in the rehab process? Or where he should be?
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Not sure, but it would behoove the Texans to think seriously about getting another QB here (other than Manning). :rolleyes:

Duce Staley, Errict Rhett and Warrick Dunn never really made it back from the injury. Granted, they were all running backs, but with the amount of rollouts this offense utilizes - you never know.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Not sure, but it would behoove the Texans to think seriously about getting another QB here (other than Manning). :rolleyes:

Duce Staley, Errict Rhett and Warrick Dunn never really made it back from the injury. Granted, they were all running backs, but with the amount of rollouts this offense utilizes - you never know.
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I was just genuinely curious if anyone had heard anything other than "I'll be ready"....

As far as Manning goes....I'm not getting too wrapped up in that, but I am curious what other QB's you guys would want in here....

Are you thinking draft? trade? Free agents?
 
Please, can we stop this Boob nonsense.

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Per SI's @DonBanks, Peyton Manning has undergone 4 neck surgeries (not 3) over the last two years. 3 last offseason: is.gd/pZRbbr
 
Texan_Bill said:
Not sure, but it would behoove the Texans to think seriously about getting another QB here (other than Manning). :rolleyes:

Duce Staley, Errict Rhett and Warrick Dunn never really made it back from the injury. Granted, they were all running backs, but with the amount of rollouts this offense utilizes - you never know.
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Ty Law (Patriots secondary player) and Glenn Earl (former Texan secondary player) also suffered this injury and couldn't return and maintain an NFL career.

It's not encouraging to look at the historical record of NFL players who have had this injury and attempted a return.

Matt Schaub is facing an uphill battle. Albert Haynesworth should be flown to Siberia with 3 days of rations and one change of clothes.
 
So we're fighting about who is more/less injured? The immobile guy with the broken neck or the immobile guy with the broken foot?
 
If Matt Schaub is a Texan after the trade deadline then we will all know that last year was a fluke and we have no chance of winning with this front office and coaching staff. Matt is barely top 20 in the league, and we have other needs. QB in our system can be a card-board cutout as long as that piece of paper can get Foster and Tate the ball. Sign a FA, draft a good prospect, or let Yates carry it for now, but dont waste money on Matt. Skins need a QB and its the same system. Send Barbi packing.
 
ckhouston said:
If Matt Schaub is a Texan after the trade deadline then we will all know that last year was a fluke and we have no chance of winning with this front office and coaching staff.
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You probably need to add this :sarcasm: to your post.
 
ckhouston said:
If Matt Schaub is a Texan after the trade deadline then we will all know that last year was a fluke and we have no chance of winning with this front office and coaching staff. Matt is barely top 20 in the league, and we have other needs. QB in our system can be a card-board cutout as long as that piece of paper can get Foster and Tate the ball. Sign a FA, draft a good prospect, or let Yates carry it for now, but dont waste money on Matt. Skins need a QB and its the same system. Send Barbi packing.
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Some people.....Matt Schaub has been pretty solid and was the probowl MVP to boot but he got hurt so we call him barbi now...gtfo. I see why your rep power is 0 lol.
 
Lucky said:
You probably need to add this :sarcasm: to your post.
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No thanks.

Schaub has only had two good years in eight NFL seasons. He is injury prone, has a weak arm, is not accuarate (keep your stats, his receivers cover his ass constantly), not mobile, and has no passion for the game. Its like watching Eeyore playing QB. Trade him and get something for him.
 
ckhouston said:
No thanks.

Schaub has only had two good years in eight NFL seasons. He is injury prone, has a weak arm, is not accuarate (keep your stats, his receivers cover his ass constantly), not mobile, and has no passion for the game. Its like watching Eeyore playing QB. Trade him and get something for him.
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Your talking out your arse.
 
ckhouston said:
No thanks.

Schaub has only had two good years in eight NFL seasons. He is injury prone, has a weak arm, is not accuarate (keep your stats, his receivers cover his ass constantly), not mobile, and has no passion for the game. Its like watching Eeyore playing QB. Trade him and get something for him.
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YOU GOT JOKES..LMAO!:dance2:
 
ckhouston said:
Just calling it how I see it. If you actually watch Matt play the game, he simply isnt that good of a QB.
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after Peyton, Brady, Brews, Ben, and Rogers who is better? Schaub is perfect for the Texans system. Who do you want to trade him for, Vick! Gabbert? Grossman? Give me another NFL QB that you would trade straight up for him?
 
ckhouston said:
Just calling it how I see it. If you actually watch Matt play the game, he simply isnt that good of a QB.
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Just can't agree. You said "no stats" but they're inherently intertwined, no? Two back to back 4000+ yds passing. QBs that "simply isn't that good" don't win Pro Bowl MVPs. (I know, it's JUST the pro bowl so save your ink)

Granted, that was all before he was Haynesworthed and with all the data available on Pro players coming back from this injury, as severe as Matt's, doesn't look good. That being the case, is he really marketable?

I want to see him back to form in the worst way but everything I've read/seen/heard discussed does not look promising. I would not be surprised if he's already taken his last snap under center.

I hope that not the case, but I believe management will do their best to have a valid plan B in place, what ever that my be. My guess, and only a guess, is to have TJ as ready to go as possible by taking all the snaps with the ones vs. the ones and hope he has a breakout year and hope all his rookie mistakes are behind him. That and draft another QB.

The Texans are in a tough spot at the QB position. I do not envy the position management is in.
 
ckhouston said:
Just calling it how I see it. If you actually watch Matt play the game, he simply isnt that good of a QB.
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Glasses. I suggest glasses.

Matt was a Top 6 QB in 2009/2010 and was Top 10 for what he did in 2011.

Maybe tri-focals so you don't miss so much.
 
ckhouston said:
No thanks.

Schaub has only had two good years in eight NFL seasons. He is injury prone, has a weak arm, is not accuarate (keep your stats, his receivers cover his ass constantly), not mobile, and has no passion for the game. Its like watching Eeyore playing QB. Trade him and get something for him.
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Has no passion for the game? See you lose credibility when you just make crap up. Schaub is renowned as the hardest worker on the team.

And every QB has WR's covering their ass - Eli Manning in the SB with an on the side of the helmet catch, Peyton with Marvin Harrison making diving catches, etc. You don't want stats fine but you don't produce as he has not being accurate especially since according to many people he only has one WR worth starting.
 
schaub just isnt a winner, hes scared, when the game gets tough he tucks his tail, this doesnt mean he sucks, hes a solid qb, he'll put up numbers all day but those numbers dont mean anything in the grand scheme when you fail in the most crucial moments..

i dont understand why so many of you guys here continue to expect great things from schaub, what youve seen is what youll get.. youre kidding yourselves if you think he takes that career PPG into the playoffs and just rolls over teams.. games will get tough, you need a qb that can put a team on his back, schaub isnt capable of this..

like ck said, just watch the guy play, save your stats, stats never tell the whole story..

i dont have faith in this guy, all i have is hope, hope that he'll prove me wrong... just dont see it..
 
ckhouston said:
No thanks.

Schaub has only had two good years in eight NFL seasons. He is injury prone, has a weak arm, is not accuarate (keep your stats, his receivers cover his ass constantly), not mobile, and has no passion for the game. Its like watching Eeyore playing QB. Trade him and get something for him.
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You all know I like Matt Schaub... ok, you all know I wouldn't be upset if we move on from the Matt Schaub era. Yes he's been to the pro-bowl, yes he can put up stats in this system.

But this team is ready for a dynamo at the QB position. Someone who can make things happen, not someone who simply takes what the defense gives him.

I will agree, that Schaub is better than QBs that have won super-bowls...... Dilfer, Johnson. But when you have to qualify a statement like that with players you know are sub-par, that should tell you something.

In the past, this team was comparable to Detroit, the pre-super-bowl Cardinals & Bucs...... the bottom of the league. I'm not saying this team won't get us to a Super Bowl with Matt Schaub, but I'm highly doubtful that Schaub can get us there or win it.

We need a dynamo.
 
ubecool454 said:
after Peyton, Brady, Brews, Ben, and Rogers who is better? Schaub is perfect for the Texans system. Who do you want to trade him for, Vick! Gabbert? Grossman? Give me another NFL QB that you would trade straight up for him?
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Well, here`s my list:

E. Manning
P. Rivers
C. Newton
A. Dalton
M. Ryan
M. Stafford
J. Flacco

I really like Schaub - but his injuries are a big concern. He is a better than average QB that couldn`t show how he performs in the playoffs yet and has had some big injuries. It´s kinda like the Rockets the last years - if Yao and TMac can stay healthy, we should be ok... we all know how that turned out.

I am not ready to give up on Schaub - go into next season with him as the starters and let TJ learn something on the bench. But if he can`T get healthy or gets another big injury, it might be time to look for a big time QB.
 
infantrycak said:
Has no passion for the game? See you lose credibility when you just make crap up. Schaub is renowned as the hardest worker on the team.
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But since he's not screaming and yelling at everybody like Brady or Manning he has no passion and is not a leader. :rolleyes:
 
Ryan said:
But since he's not screaming and yelling at everybody like Brady or Manning he has no passion and is not a leader. :rolleyes:
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This is just me thinking. I don't see Brady or Manning as "leaders" because they huff-&-puff on the sidelines, but year after year, they rise to the occasion & answer the bell.

The defense consistently give up 30 points... no problem, they answer the call & lead their team to that last minute drive, whether they had 2 minutes or 47 seconds.

Their offensive line can't protect them.. no matter. More times than not, they'll still have a 3 or 4 TD game....

You're star receiver shoots up a night-club or says something stupid & get transferred to Tennesse.... no problem, they'll make the next guy look like a super star.

They want the ball in their hands when the game is on the line & more times than not, they answer the bell.
 
LikeMike said:
Well, here`s my list:...
A. Dalton
M. Ryan
M. Stafford
J. Flacco

I really like Schaub - but his injuries are a big concern...
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Dalton, Ryan don't have Schaub's poise. Ryan was uninspiring in 2011. Stafford has at least as serious injury concerns. And Flacco? ProFootballFocus had Flacco ranked 28th for passing in 2011. Passer rating: Schaub 97/Flacco 81. T.J. Yates tied him @ 81, for reference.
 
Playoffs said:
Dalton, Ryan don't have Schaub's poise. Ryan was uninspiring in 2011. Stafford has at least as serious injury concerns. And Flacco? ProFootballFocus had Flacco ranked 28th for passing in 2011. Passer rating: Schaub 97/Flacco 81. T.J. Yates tied him @ 81, for reference.
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Yeah.... can't take any list with Ryan on it seriously.
 
ubecool454 said:
after Peyton, Brady, Brews, Ben, and Rogers who is better? Schaub is perfect for the Texans system. Who do you want to trade him for, Vick! Gabbert? Grossman? Give me another NFL QB that you would trade straight up for him?
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Don't tease me, please tell me there is a trade in the works, who wouldn't want that masterpiece?
 
Playoffs said:
Dalton, Ryan don't have Schaub's poise. Ryan was uninspiring in 2011. Stafford has at least as serious injury concerns. And Flacco? ProFootballFocus had Flacco ranked 28th for passing in 2011. Passer rating: Schaub 97/Flacco 81. T.J. Yates tied him @ 81, for reference.
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Dalton, Ryan and Stafford should be cheaper and are younger - that`s my main selling point for them - on the field they are not far behind Schaub (when Stafford is healthy I think you need to put him ahead of Schaub) and there is reason to believe they will get better.

Flacco has proven he can win in the playoffs.

Right now there are big question marks around Schaub. How can he recover from that injury? And if he can, will he be a QB that can carry his team in the playoffs? And with his age, there is little room for real improvement.

If he can get to pre injury form I believe he could be that QB for us - but that is a big if, and that believe isn`t really solid either. That`s why I would trade him for those other QBs in a heartbeat. Too many question marks, too many ifs and buts.

But since none of those team would even consider a trade like this, and since we won`t consider trading Schaub either, I am in the front row cheering for him and praying to god that he gets well and carries this team to a superbowl.
 
Joe Flacco has proven he can win in the playoffs? That's like saying Mark Sanchez has proven he can win in the playoffs (two straight AFC Championship appearances), when in reality he is the ultimate game manager and isn't anywhere to be found on a list of the best quarterbacks in the game.

I'm just skeptical when labeling a quarterback a winner in the playoffs. I don't think Flacco is any better than Schaub, who has never played in a playoff game, but he's just been on the right team at the right time, a la Mark Sanchez. If Matt Schaub stays healthy in 2012 the Texans have a great shot to reach Super Bowl 47 in the Superdome. I do believe Schaub is worthy of being mentioned among some of the top QBs in the game. Hopefully he'll get the recognition he deserves.
 
Flacco and Ryan are not very amazing at the moment, Stafford can and will be great if he stays healthy, and I want to see what Dalton can do in the future.

Right now its, in no particular order;

Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Manning, Manning, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Stafford, Schaub, Vick.

Ryan, Flacco, Newton, Dalton, Cutler, Romo are all hovering. I'm sure I'm missing a guy or two.
 
ubecool454 said:
after Peyton, Brady, Brews, Ben, and Rogers who is better? Schaub is perfect for the Texans system. Who do you want to trade him for, Vick! Gabbert? Grossman? Give me another NFL QB that you would trade straight up for him?
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Bradford, Stafford, Ryan, Rivers, Flacco, Eli, Vick, Newton, Palmer, maybe even Hasselbeck (if he was younger) or Dalton (if he has another good year). Im sure there are more, but bottom line is my opinion is my own, and it is that Schaub is a mid-tier QB.
 
LikeMike said:
Dalton, Ryan and Stafford should be cheaper and are younger - that`s my main selling point for them - on the field they are not far behind Schaub (when Stafford is healthy I think you need to put him ahead of Schaub) and there is reason to believe they will get better.
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:clap:

schaub: 6yrs/48m, 7m garunteed
ryan: 6yrs,72m, 34.75m garunteed
stafford: 6yrs,72m, 41.7m garunteed

knew i shouldnt have clicked on this thread...
 
ckhouston said:
No thanks.

Schaub has only had two good years in eight NFL seasons. He is injury prone, has a weak arm, is not accuarate (keep your stats, his receivers cover his ass constantly), not mobile, and has no passion for the game. Its like watching Eeyore playing QB. Trade him and get something for him.
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ugh and it gets worse

that would be the group of wrs everybody and their mother has us replacing with our top draft picks right?

as for the rest of your scouting report... :boogereater:
 
Premier said:
you know how the interwebz work, if its well documented, provide the source.. until then its just hearsay..
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kubiaks and other players have said it countless times in pressers so what other sources do you want?

if anybody need documented proof of schaubs work ethic it just shows they dont follow the team i.e the weekly pressers that closely...which is also fine

just dont try to make to argue something that the majority of the hardcore fans who follow the team closely know is pretty much a fact just because they're too f'n lazy to go through the pressers to find 'the evidence' themselves
 
Maddict5 said:
that would be the group of wrs everybody and their mother has us replacing with our top draft picks right?
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Didn't say WR's, I said receivers. Including TE's and RB's, etc. I for one would not use a first round pick on a WR. In this offense the important thing is the O-line, and the RB core, not the WR talent. We have one of if not the best in the league in AJ, and we have a talented rookie who was hurt and may be a serviceable #2 this year. I would pick up a WR, but not in the first round. At 26 we will be able to add a better player at a more needed position, and still get our receiver in a later round.
 
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