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McNair Will Keep Kubiak....Announcement forthcoming

At least we are prepared for next year!!!! We already have Gary and Wade Palms!!!!!!

I think this year went so wrong because we don't have a Frank Bush Palm.



Here what 2011 may look like::kubepalm: :wadepalm::kubepalm::wadepalm::kubepalm::wadepalm:
 
wagonhed said:
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Yeah, that is my all-time favorite animated GIF.

That is how I feel right now.

I don't have the inner strength to really post anything adequate right now.

It feels like I am in a daydream or something. If Kubiak remains, well...(sigh)
 
THis is complete Bu****** with mcnair bringing back kubiak all I can say is that as long as the texans are profitable mcnair doesn't care about winning.
 
PHAROAH said:
THis is complete Bu****** with mcnair bringing back kubiak all I can say is that as long as the texans are profitable mcnair doesn't care about winning.
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But we're different than other NFL teams. Our owner is a gentleman. He believes in people. He doesn't make rash, over-reactive decisions.

Some day, when we make the playoffs, you'll see. You'll be glad you waited. You will be there when hell itself freezes over, and can say you saw it all happen within your lifetime.

If you are old, I would suggest you have yourself frozen so they can thaw you out 30 years from now when we finally end up making the big time. Just don't do it at the same place where Ted Williams was held...they took baseball bats to his head and stuff. Take me out to the ballgame, bash my head with a bat, throw fastballs at my cranium, I don't care if I look like Matt.
 
GP said:
But we're different than other NFL teams. Our owner is a gentleman. He believes in people. He doesn't make rash, over-reactive decisions.

Some day, when we make the playoffs, you'll see. You'll be glad you waited. You will be there when hell itself freezes over, and can say you saw it all happen within your lifetime.

If you are old, I would suggest you have yourself frozen so they can thaw you out 30 years from now when we finally end up making the big time. Just don't do it at the same place where Ted Williams was held...they took baseball bats to his head and stuff. Take me out to the ballgame, bash my head with a bat, throw fastballs at my cranium, I don't care if I look like Matt.
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Haven't thought about this :kubepalm:incident for quite awhile. For those who don't know the incident that you are referring to, I digress:


Ted Williams' Severed Head Abused In Cryonics Facility: Former Exec
BOB BAUM | 10/ 2/09 09:18 PM | [HUFFINGTON POST]

Larry Johnson says in the book "Frozen: My Journey Into the World of Cryonics, Deception and Death" that he watched an Alcor official swing a monkey wrench at Williams' frozen severed head to try to remove a tuna can stuck to it. The first swing accidentally struck the head, Johnson contends, and the second knocked the tuna can loose.

Alcor Life Extension Foundation of Scottsdale, Ariz., issued a statement on its Web site denying the allegations and promising legal action.

"Alcor denies allegations reported in the press that there was mistreatment of the remains of Ted Williams at Alcor," the company said. "Alcor will be litigating this and any other false allegations to the maximum extent of the law."

Johnson says he worked for Alcor for eight months in 2003, first as clinical director then as chief operating officer. He included several photographs in the book, including one of an upside down severed head, not Williams', that had what appeared to be a tuna can attached to it.

Johnson says Alcor used the cans, from a cat that lived on the premises, as pedestals for the heads.

Williams' head was being transferred from one container to another when the monkey wrench incident took place, Johnson said in the book. When the head was removed from the first container, Johnson described it.

"The disembodied face set in that awful, frozen scream looked nothing like any picture of Ted Williams I've ever seen," he wrote.

Johnson said that an Alcor employee tried in vain to remove the tuna can.

"Then he grabbed a monkey wrench, heaved a mighty swing, missing the tuna can completely but hitting the head dead center,' Johnson wrote. "Tiny pieces of frozen head sprayed around the room."

The next swing, Johnson wrote, knocked the can loose.

Johnson also contends that there was a significant crack in Williams' head. He also repeated an allegation he had made earlier that samples of Williams' DNA are missing from the facility.

Johnson, who says he wired himself surreptitiously the last few months of his employment, was the source for a story in Sports Illustrated in August, 2003, that said Williams' head had been severed and damaged.

At that time, Alcor officials said there never was mistreatment of any of those frozen at the facility. The company said that severing heads is a common practice in its preservation, and that cracking has been noted as a problem in the procedure and is not the result of any mishandling.

Ted Williams died in July 2002. At the direction of his son, John Henry Williams, the baseball player's remains were flown from Florida to Arizona.

Johnson had not yet gone to work for Alcor, but he recreated the scene based, he said, on "conversations with the Alcorians who were in the room and performed the procedures, the files I have read, and the discussions I've had with other people involved, including members of Ted's family."

Johnson paints a macabre scene in a room packed with people, many of whom posed for pictures with Williams' body, both before and after the head was cut off. The book contends the head was "hanging by a thread" when an official entered the room and shouted that it was supposed to be a full-body freezing.

Williams' head and body were frozen separately, Johnson wrote.

The process, known as cryonics, is conducted with the hope that someday scientists will be able to bring the subjects back to life. The heads and bodies, along with those of cats, dogs and other pets, are stored in stainless steel containers at extremely cold temperatures.

John Henry Williams died of leukemia at age 35 in 2004 after a bitter court fight against Williams' daughter, Bobby-Jo, who contended the wishes expressed in her father's will should have been followed. In the will, Ted Williams said he wanted to be cremated and have his ashes scattered at sea. She eventually abandoned the legal battle, citing lack of funds.

Johnson says in his book that he believes the small piece of paper used as evidence that Williams wanted to be frozen was fraudulent. The paper is signed by Ted Williams, John Henry and Williams' other daughter, Claudia.
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As things stand, some fans may be tempted to have a pregame nine inning wrench "batting" practice on more than one of the heads (frozen or nonfrozen) of the present dysfunctional regime from the top down.
 
The minute this announcement is made I'm out. I've enjoyed it here but I will never be able to "come around" with the way McNair does things. It is tough enough being fully invested for a lifetime in a team who has a crazy owner. I can't sit and watch another just make stupid decision after stupid decision.

I really hope people have the balls to make their voices known today.
 
Mcnair doesn't care as long as the greenbacks are flowing in. I've been saying it for a yr or two now that he is one of the worst owners in the NFL, but it's taken this long for the truth to be revealed to all but the most loyal who only see things thru steel blue glasses. PT Barnum should be running this team because I see a lot of suckers out there still ponying up for this garbage. :kubepalm:
 
HoustonFrog said:
The minute this announcement is made I'm out. I've enjoyed it here but I will never be able to "come around" with the way McNair does things. It is tough enough being fully invested for a lifetime in a team who has a crazy owner. I can't sit and watch another just make stupid decision after stupid decision.

I really hope people have the balls to make their voices known today.
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Come back to the MB and visit.

I'll miss you.
 
thunderkyss said:
If that happens, I will have no problem mentioning I was wrong. Next years schedule is going to be just as tough, AFC North, NFC South.

We ain't winning 12 games with Gary Kubiak as head coach.
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TK,

True to your word, you waited saw how the season played out and got off the Kubiak bandwagon.

It's gonna be 2 long yrs watching the team play for 2 qtrs every game. Blowing leads like only they can.

Bringing in Wade is quite fitting. This team is Oileresque in many ways. From the owner to the HC etc...
 
You know. I started thinking about how McNair could retain Kubiak with all of his warts in 1/2 game planning, clock management and terrible on-the-fly decisions. The only serious way I could think of that he could half-way justify his move and still try to salvage the fan base...............Hire a proven no-nonsense ASSISTANT HC.........and assign him appropriate power.
 
houstonhurricane said:
Glad to see that the CBA issues continue to keep teams from making coaching moves...
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The Browns are nuts. They should have stuck with the suckitude....er, status quo and kept Mangini.

Cripes, even the Browns are gonna kick our ass next year.
 
McNair needs to hire Mangini on as BD's coach.

He would be a great fit in this organization.
 
Despite the fact that the Houston Texans have lost four in a row and eight of their past nine, owner Bob McNair will not make a change at head coach and Gary Kubiak will return for another season, according to league sources.


McNair believes that if Kubiak can make certain changes to his defensive coaching staff, then he will be able to create a winning atmosphere, and no change at head coach would be needed, the sources said.

Houston ranks 29th in total defense (380.6 yards per game) and last against the pass this season (277.1).

One defensive coordinator candidate that will be considered, according to the sources, is former Dallas Cowboys head coach Wade Phillips, whom Kubiak worked with in Denver, but the Texans have other options they will consider as well. It also doesn't hurt that Kubiak signed a two-year contract extension after last season and there is potential for a work stoppage in 2011.

Adam Schefter is ESPN's NFL Insider. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5981055

So he will return, and there is a possibility they don't even get wade?
 
It hurts the fans that Kubiak signed a 2 yr extention and there ia a good chance of a lockout. Otherwise Kubiak would be looking for another job come Monday morning.

Thanks BoB
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
They're sure to win the super bowl next year and every year after! Gruden is the best eveerrrr!!!
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I know you are trying to be a smart ass, but watch Cleveland have a winning season and at least a shot at the playoffs next year if Gruden goes there.

Then come back and tell me where the Dukes of Houston stand in their division.
 
houstonhurricane said:
Uh no, but they clearly aren't using the CBA as an excuse not to make a change. I know that must have been lost on you...
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Wasn't lost on me at all. Good for them, honestly. I just have zero faith in Gruden turning our franchise into a consistent winner and just as little faith in that happening in Cleveland. 5 more years the Browns won't reach the playoffs. At least he's going to an AFC team,no!?
 
steelbtexan said:
TK,

True to your word, you waited saw how the season played out and got off the Kubiak bandwagon.

It's gonna be 2 long yrs watching the team play for 2 qtrs every game. Blowing leads like only they can.

Bringing in Wade is quite fitting. This team is Oileresque in many ways. From the owner to the HC etc...
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Correction, I've never been on the Kubiak bandwagon, well, not this year. I challenge anyone to find a post of mine, from this year, where I am in favor of Kubiak. I've been pro Texans, I've been a it'll work out for the Texans sunshiner, but not pro Kubiak.

Now, there are several people on this board, who are upset when the Texans don't draft the hometown kid, and are thrilled when we bring in an Earl Mitchell, or James Casey.

Personally, if they aren't the best player on the board, I think we should pass. Same goes for coaches.

You're going to have Marvin Lewis & John Fox out there,

I just heard that Charlie Wiess is going to Florida to be the OC, what are the odds he'd have taken the same position with an NFL team? Tony Sparano is rumored to be on the block.

There are going to be OCs & DCs for play-off teams looking for "better opportunities".

This off season is not only going to be ripe for HC candidates, but it's going to be ripe for putting together complete coaching staffs.
 
thunderkyss said:
Correction, I've never been on the Kubiak bandwagon, well, not this year. I challenge anyone to find a post of mine, from this year, where I am in favor of Kubiak. I've been pro Texans, I've been a it'll work out for the Texans sunshiner, but not pro Kubiak.
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Who are you kidding here? Honestly? Do you think that this entire forum doesn't have the ability to read or have any comprehension, or any kind of memory? If there has been anyone that's been "pro Kubiak" I'd probably crown you as the king of being that. Don't try and sit here and deny to try and make yourself seem smarter. You're sworn by Kubiak as if he's some sort of god or something.
 
houstonhurricane said:
Looks like Cleveland may target John Gruden when they fire Mangini tomorrow (www.rotoworld.com).

Glad to see that the CBA issues continue to keep teams from making coaching moves...
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Mangina is at least on the second year of his contract, they'd be on the hook for 50% or less of his contract.

If fired, McNair will still be paying Kubiak for two more years.

Wade Phillips & several other coaches who will get the axe are on their last year, or will be going onto the last year of their contract.
 
thunderkyss said:
I just heard that Charlie Wiess is going to Florida to be the OC, what are the odds he'd have taken the same position with an NFL team?
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He had the same position with an NFL team and by rule could not move to another NFL team for the same position. Makes you wonder if everything is so copacetic up in KC land that he is taking a lateral move to a lessor league.
 
thunderkyss said:
Mangina is at least on the second year of his contract, they'd be on the hook for 50% or less of his contract.

If fired, McNair will still be paying Kubiak for two more years.

Wade Phillips & several other coaches who will get the axe are on their last year, or will be going onto the last year of their contract.
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So it is my fault as a fan that I have to suffer through mediocrity because the franchise jumped the gun and extended a guy that is currently in the midst of losing 8 out 9? No, not a good enough reason for keeping this experiment up and running...
 
Texecutioner said:
Who are you kidding here? Honestly? Do you think that this entire forum doesn't have the ability to read or have any comprehension, or any kind of memory? If there has been anyone that's been "pro Kubiak" I'd probably crown you as the king of being that. Don't try and sit here and deny to try and make yourself seem smarter. You're sworn by Kubiak as if he's some sort of god or something.
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Bull.

Accusing me of trying to look smarter???? With my post history....

Whatever.
 
thunderkyss said:
Bull.

Accusing me of trying to look smarter???? With my post history....

Whatever.
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There is nothing for you to deny here. You tell people to pull posts. Hell that's like 90% of your posts on this board. You saying that you haven't been pro Kubiak is as much of a fraudulent statement as anything I've ever heard. Why would anyone even waste their time with you at this point by doing that? You simply acted like you bailed on the Kubiak wagon when it was imminent that he had another season of failure, and even then you still made excuses for the guy. He's still your guy and you know it. But to say that you haven't been pro Kubiak is one of the funniest things that's been written by you and not the fact that you said it, but the fact that you actually think that any regular in here wouldn't no how false that statement was.
 
On ClutchFans, they are saying Wade Phillips' sister called into SR610 about thirty minutes ago and said if offered the DC job, Wade actually won't accept.

Not sure if it's true or not that she actually called, but take it FWIW.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
On ClutchFans, they are saying Wade Phillips' sister called into SR610 about thirty minutes ago and said if offered the DC job, Wade actually won't accept.

Not sure if it's true or not that she actually called, but take it FWIW.
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If true, very interesting...
 
GuerillaBlack said:
On ClutchFans, they are saying Wade Phillips' sister called into SR610 about thirty minutes ago and said if offered the DC job, Wade actually won't accept.

Not sure if it's true or not that she actually called, but take it FWIW.
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Not only that, but remember Shanahan was fired from Denver, because he wouldn't fire his DC. Kubiak could do the same thing.
 
Texecutioner said:
There is nothing for you to deny here. You tell people to pull posts. Hell that's like 90% of your posts on this board. You saying that you haven't been pro Kubiak is as much of a fraudulent statement as anything I've ever heard. Why would anyone even waste their time with you at this point by doing that? You simply acted like you bailed on the Kubiak wagon when it was imminent that he had another season of failure, and even then you still made excuses for the guy. He's still your guy and you know it. But to say that you haven't been pro Kubiak is one of the funniest things that's been written by you and not the fact that you said it, but the fact that you actually think that any regular in here wouldn't no how false that statement was.
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Tex,

You beat me to it. When TK said he has never been a Kubiak supporter, I literally laughed out loud. As you said, he assumes no one can read.
 
The sad thing is, even the Lions -- the LIONS!!! -- have seen the need to clean house, can a loser GM and coaching staff, and start building a competitive team. The Lions are already ahead of the Texans in terms of learning how to develop a winning culture despite being only 5-10 like the Texans. And I think the Lions will sniff the playoffs before a Gary Kubiak-led Texans team.

IMO, McNair just extended the middle finger to Texans fans.
 
devo-x said:
Texans likely won't attract any promising OC/DC candidates if Kubiak kept

Enjoy mediocrity:kubepalm:
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Yep. Apparently Wade thinks there is a better situation for him besides Houston. How long will it take for McNair to understand that keeping Kubiak hinders your chance of attracting a competent coach? And we can kiss any primetime games next year goodbye if Kubiak is the coach. We might have one Thursday Night Game against the Jags or something. You think Wade would be "allegedly" thinking those things if the Texans had a real HC like Cowher?

Kubiak needs to go. :kubepalm:
 
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