A Wade Phillips defense and a Gary Kubiak offense = CHAMPIONSHIP.
That's why it won't happen.
You know, I liked football a whole lot better before the internet was around.
I'm having visions of the "Co-Manager" episodes on The Office..........
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A Wade Phillips defense and a Gary Kubiak offense = CHAMPIONSHIP.
That's why it won't happen.
You know, I liked football a whole lot better before the internet was around.
Tell me were talking OC and DC. Where does the head coaching and leadership come from?
Lot of people will want Phillips as their DC, so why would he go someplace where the HC is on a very, very short lease ? Like if Kubiak is back, its playoffs in 2011 or he's gone along with his staff of course since a new HC would want to pick his coordinators.
A Wade Phillips defense and a Gary Kubiak offense = CHAMPIONSHIP.
It's all speculation... Clayton just stated live on ESPN just now.... as typed per my closed captioning...
I'm thinking now that the Favre lovefest is now over... they're trying to create news.
That's not possible. Unless specific in their contract, a HC cannot be demoted. We would have to fire him like Jerrah did with Campo. Fire Kubes, have have him go to another team for season or 2, and then bring him back as OC.
If a HC contract is dissolved by firing or by mutual agreement, both parties would be "free agents," free to re-negotiate another contract with different terms.
So all this talk about Unk Bob being on the hook for the remaining 2 years of GK's contract are unfounded? McNair wouldn't have to "eat" the last 2 years of GK's contract? I've wondered about that because they can sign players to contracts for X amount of dollars and years but if they get cut then, see ya, no more cash. Is it or is it not different with management?
A coaches contract is normally guaranteed money unless exceptions are made in the contract. If there are no buy out clauses, if Kubiak is fired, McNair would be on the hook for the remainder of the contract. But, if both parties agreed to dissolve the contract, then I think they could do so and then write a new one. Could be also that it is written in his contract that he could be reassigned, though I doubt it.
So all this talk about Unk Bob being on the hook for the remaining 2 years of GK's contract are unfounded? McNair wouldn't have to "eat" the last 2 years of GK's contract? I've wondered about that because they can sign players to contracts for X amount of dollars and years but if they get cut then, see ya, no more cash. Is it or is it not different with management?
Bob needs to make up his mind and fast (after the season). If Denver covets Kubiak as much as is rumored, the Texans could actually work a draft pick for releasing Kubiak and letting him go to Denver. See John Gruden being "traded" from the Raiders to the Bucs for a 5th round pick, IIRC.
actually it was something retarded like 2 1st rounders, 2 2nd rounders and some other lower picks aswell iirc
Gruden:
1st round/21st overall, 2002
2nd round/53rd overall, 2002
1st round/32nd overall, 2003
2nd round/33rd overall, 2004
Edwards:
4th Round pick
Holy snikeys, that's what the Bucs gave up to get Gruden??? I don't remember that! I
Bob needs to make up his mind and fast (after the season). If Denver covets Kubiak as much as is rumored, the Texans could actually work a draft pick for releasing Kubiak and letting him go to Denver. See John Gruden being "traded" from the Raiders to the Bucs for a 5th round pick, IIRC.
It was outrageous, but I would be happy with a 4th round pick should Kubiak move on to Denver.
how about trading Kubiak for something the next coach could use?
Rick Smith = Dumberer
I'm trying to get this straight. Gruden a coach with a .509 in his last 7 year long gig is the salvation of the team at HC and Phillips with a .609 in his last gig isn't competent to be DC even. Offensive guy managed to get his team to have a top half of the league offense twice in seven seasons. Defensive guy managed top 10 D in 3 of 4 seasons.
I'm trying to get this straight. Gruden a coach with a .509 in his last 7 year long gig is the salvation of the team at HC and Phillips with a .609 in his last gig isn't competent to be DC even. Offensive guy managed to get his team to have a top half of the league offense twice in seven seasons. Defensive guy managed top 10 D in 3 of 4 seasons.
Rick Smith = Dumberer
It seems real simple to say offense + defense = good. ...
Just an observation. Didn't mean to derail the it is all Kubiak's fault train.
But while we're talking, how about at least be good at your specialty as a standard for coaches? Gruden inherited a D in Tampa that had been top 10 for 5 years with 4 of 5 top 6 or better before he got there and then he never built a top 10 offensive team and barely made top half. Kubiak got here and quickly built a top 5 O team three years running. In Oakland Gruden's D's got worse each year. I have no faith Gruden is going to come in here and fix the D (oh the irony if his first hire was Wade Phillips) for all the other problems you can point to that is the elephant in the room.
*this is not a pro-Kubiak post so much as I hate the idea of Gruden.
Just an observation. Didn't mean to derail the it is all Kubiak's fault train.
But while we're talking, how about at least be good at your specialty as a standard for coaches? Gruden inherited a D in Tampa that had been top 10 for 5 years with 4 of 5 top 6 or better before he got there and then he never built a top 10 offensive team and barely made top half. Kubiak got here and quickly built a top 5 O team three years running. In Oakland Gruden's D's got worse each year. I have no faith Gruden is going to come in here and fix the D (oh the irony if his first hire was Wade Phillips) for all the other problems you can point to that is the elephant in the room.
*this is not a pro-Kubiak post so much as I hate the idea of Gruden.
I think he is better than Gary and he can change the attitude but it isn't like he is a first choice for me.
If anyone heard Alonzo Highsmith Call kinto 1560 this afternoon, he NAILED it concerning what a team needs in a coach. It was a great call and pretty much an indictment on the Texans philiosopjy right now.
But is the change of attitude a good one? He had tons of controversy, never could pick a QB to save himself and built teams that wildly swung up and down. Not sure that is better attitude. I know lots of fans like to see growling Chuckie faces on the sideline. Doesn't impress me.
Missed it. What did he say?
Just a thought but why on earth would Gruden still want to go to TB knowing they just gave up a 1st and 2nd rounder for each of his first Two seasons? That hamstrings you so much. Guess that's why he took Dungys team to the playoffs that year and then it all went downhill. Not totally Grudens fault but he literally made the bed he slept in. Or whatever that saying is
Jimmy Johnson & Jerry Jones had a great relationship until somebody offered Jimmy more money.
And you know this how?
Like everyone else. I'm just trying to put the bits and pieces together. I live in Pt Arthur Texas, and that's the word around here. Here's a link
At the bottom of the first page there's a snippet about Jimmy coaching the Jaguars. The way I here the story, that's what started everything.
Wade is cupcake just like Kubiak. We aren't going anywhere with the duo. We have a chance at Cowher and McNair is not taking it.
Jimmy Johnson & Jerry Jones had a great relationship until somebody offered Jimmy more money.
Maybe it was the same with Davis & Gruden. Maybe Chucky recognized the early onset of dementia.....
I'm just throwing things out there.
But is the change of attitude a good one? He had tons of controversy, never could pick a QB to save himself and built teams that wildly swung up and down. Not sure that is better attitude. I know lots of fans like to see growling Chuckie faces on the sideline. Doesn't impress me.
Wow, there is so much stuff in that article and you pull just $$ out of it. I lived that time as a Cowboys fan. It wasn't about money. It was about two gigantic egos.
The problem was not money (which in consistent with Jerry Jones). A couple months back Jimmy Johnson was interviewed on a sports radio station in the area and said that by his initial contract he had final say on roster and personnel matters. Once Jerry Jones got the business end of the Cowboys straight, he want to take this power away from Johnosn. When Johnson refused, that is when the football relationship ended.
Edit: If anything the link a few post above this one confirms not contradicts this notion.
Thanks to John Elway more than anybody else. Sometimes a coach just gets lucky and ends up with a Hall of Fame QB on his team.Even Broncos fans have two SB titles to look back upon and brag about.
Thanks to Terrell Davis more than anybody else.
IMO, Gruden is the defensive equivalent to Gary Kubiak. Both guys do their side of the ball VERY well, but the other side of the ball is woeful.
IMO, Gruden is the defensive equivalent to Gary Kubiak. Both guys do their side of the ball VERY well, but the other side of the ball is woeful. When I look back on the Bucs championship season, I see an offense that looks like the Ravens offense under Trent Dilfer when the Ravens won their SB title. Both offenses just barely got by opponents solely upon having a QB who didn't make too many costly mistakes, allowing their defenses to shut down offenses and even make some opportunities for themselves, as well.
Wade makes Kubiak looks like that drill sargent in the Geico commercial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFgiUm4lQig
As a fan I could accept the scenario of HC/OC Kubiak & DC Phillips, butMy guess is what's going on is that the Texans will "distance" themeselves from the Cowher talk. They'll float a lot of names of HC candidates and interviewees like Hue Jackson, Troy Calhoun, Mike Sherman, plus several more. That way the fanbase will really be scratching their heads and not wanting those so when its announced Phillips will replace Bush as DC and Kubiak will stay, the fanbase will be more accepting of it than if everyone was led to believe Cowher was a possibility. Damage control, slight of hand, manipulation, mind control... these guys are jedis working on Kirby.