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Rumor: John Clayton guessing that Wade Phillips coming Kubiak staying

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I would be very surprised if Kubiak gets demoted to OC. I like bringing in Wade Phillips, I think it's a good move for DC. I wouldn't want him as coach.
 
Wade is cupcake just like Kubiak. We aren't going anywhere with the duo. We have a chance at Cowher and McNair is not taking it.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
John Clayton on ESPN NEWS just presented that Kubiak and Philips will be teaming up here in Houston.
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Presented that this would be a possibility or was reporting that this is actually happening?

I'm not seeing anything on ESPN or HoustonTexans.com about this. I could see a "leak" happening that Phillips would step in if Bush gets fired but at this point I fully expect us to finish the season (5 days from now) with everybody in place. Bush to be fired after the season and Phillips to be hired in his place as DC (if this is the route McNair goes).

In any event, I would be one of the fans you guys despise because I would be on board with this. Phillips is a proven DC and even if he built this defense into a top 20 in the league.... we'd have 10+ wins a season.
 
wow, ideas sure are flopping around these days. I'm excited because it SEEMS as if changes are coming, some sort of change :)
 
Until this is confirmed, i won't believe it. But if it is, at least we already have this facepalm ready....:kubepalm::wadepalm:
 
Should this come to pass I wonder what impact it would have on him remaining as a coach in the East-West Shrine game
 
I hope to God this isn't true. If it is, I really am not sure how much longer I can continue rooting for this franchise as long as Bob McNair's heart is still beating. If it is as OC & DC, fantastic, but we all know that isn't happening. The last thing I want to see is this combination:

:kubepalm::wadepalm:
 
If this is true I have not been this depressed since Mother's Day 2008.......the day my wife stood in our kitchen and told me she wanted a divorce.


Really hope this is not true.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
Presented that this would be a possibility or was reporting that this is actually happening?

I'm not seeing anything on ESPN or HoustonTexans.com about this. I could see a "leak" happening that Phillips would step in if Bush gets fired but at this point I fully expect us to finish the season (5 days from now) with everybody in place. Bush to be fired after the season and Phillips to be hired in his place as DC.

In any event, I would be one of the fans you guys despise because I would be on board with this. Phillips is a proven DC and even if he built this defense into a top 20 in the league.... we'd have 10+ wins a season.
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Presenting that talks ongoing with Phillips to get him down here.
 
Lot of people will want Phillips as their DC, so why would he go someplace where the HC is on a very, very short lease ? Like if Kubiak is back, its playoffs in 2011 or he's gone along with his staff of course since a new HC would want to pick his coordinators.
 
houstonspartan said:
I didn't call you a jackass or any other names. I'm saying none of this has been confirmed yet. Just like the supposed rumors of Kubiak's departure are not confirmed.
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im guessing thats because, unlike you, i wasnt acting like a jackass to anybody.

i was just posting my initial reaction to the news. wasnt acting smug in any way at all. just because its a different viewpoint to yours :rolleyes:
 
Ckw5814 said:
I hope to God this isn't true. If it is, I really am not sure how much longer I can continue rooting for this franchise as long as Bob McNair's heart is still beating. If it is as OC & DC, fantastic, but we all know that isn't happening. The last thing I want to see is this combination:

:kubepalm::wadepalm:
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Yeah tht's not happening. HCs usually brings in their own staff. I can't imagine somebody filling in the lower ranks.
 
HTown2ATX said:
If this is true I have not been this depressed since Mother's Day 2008.......the day my wife stood in our kitchen and told me she wanted a divorce.


Really hope this is not true.
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Someone insulted me the other day for saying rooting against this team makes it reflect poorly on people as a human being, and how it's just a game and all that. Where's the flack for someone comparing a real-life, devastating situation to a potential coaching hire?



.....anyway, its a good move depending on what else happens. Kubiak has major flaws, flaws that have not been shored up in his time here. Mainly game-management, clock-management stuff. Phillips is an excellent D coordinator, as shown especially during the 90s. Kubiak is an excellent offensive mind, questionable decisions aside. I don't know if he'd accept a demotion to OC so I really don't know what's going to happen.
 
IDEXAN said:
Lot of people will want Phillips as their DC, so why would he go someplace where the HC is on a very, very short lease ? Like if Kubiak is back, its playoffs in 2011 or he's gone along with his staff of course since a new HC would want to pick his coordinators.
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Well if this happens... for those of you who REALLY don't like Kubiak it could be a blessing in disguise. Phillips present McNair with "an out". By that I mean if we struggle during the 2011 season and start off extremely terrible, McNair has a fall back plan in Phillips to replace Kubiak mid-season as HC. Some wanted Kubiak fired midseason this year... but Dennison or Bush were no where near capable of stepping in as interim HC. Phillips (whether anyone would like that or not) at least presents that option if Kubiak starts 0-6 or soforth.

From Wade's perspective, he probably won't get a HC gig but will get some feelers for DC. He's got definite ties to Houston and a team that has a very very good offense but is just lacking in the "D" department. He also would likely be the 1st name on the list as a HC replacement should something happen (given the defense doesn't get worse!).
 
Maddict5 said:
smug? what the **** is your problem? im just happy about this news jackass
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You're happy about Pubes returning? I'm stealing this sig from a poster on clutchfans -- HOU: 54-89 GK: 36-43 ovr; 9-20 div. rec.; 8-22 vs win. teams; 2-3 sea. opnrs; 1-4 after bye wk; 5-7 after 13 wks('07-'10)

You might be happy but 99.9 % of Texans fans feel like this right now..

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Ole Miss Texan said:
Well if this happens... for those of you who REALLY don't like Kubiak it could be a blessing in disguise. Phillips present McNair with "an out". By that I mean if we struggle during the 2011 season and start off extremely terrible, McNair has a fall back plan in Phillips to replace Kubiak mid-season as HC. Some wanted Kubiak fired midseason this year... but Dennison or Bush were no where near capable of stepping in as interim HC. Phillips (whether anyone would like that or not) at least presents that option if Kubiak starts 0-6 or soforth.
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Ewwwwww
 
IDEXAN said:
Lot of people will want Phillips as their DC, so why would he go someplace where the HC is on a very, very short lease ? Like if Kubiak is back, its playoffs in 2011 or he's gone along with his staff of course since a new HC would want to pick his coordinators.
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Yeah yeah yeah. We thought that last year - only for him to be extended. It was "playoffs or bust" this year and well...we're still waiting to see what happens.
 
If this turns out to be true. I wonder how Kubiak would be where he doesn't have to worry about the defense. there is someone there that can handle his own

a few times this season, I couldn't help but think of the Texans in 2003 or 2004 where Chris Palmer's offense basically had to play safe, no turnovers and play for field position and let the defense win the game for them because Carr and that offense was so bad.

In an opposite view,
a few times this season, I wondered if the Texans had to gear down their offense because they needed to eat up the clock because our defense was so bad (and yes I know this is weird and stupid thinking) but a few times I didn't want our offense to come out and jump to a big lead because that basically meant the opposing team had to abandon the run and throw the ball which played right into the historically bad pass defense.

crazy and stupid thoughts I know
 
I just watched this report by Clayton....and he said it's maybe a possibility. Nothing is even close to confirmed yet people. Let's just wait and see how next week plays out.
 
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