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Texans agree to terms with Matt Leinart

Second Honeymoon said:
Orlovsky was a bad choice and why they gave him such an outlandish contract is still a mystery. At least with Leinart, the money is small and its only one year.
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Come on, man. There was nothing "outlandish" about that contract. It's on par with what backup QBs get. About the same as what Sage got. About 2-3 mil a year for 2-3 years with between 1.5 to 2.5 guaranteed. That's just what it takes.
 
Austrian said:
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Sorry.:photos:

Back to topic.
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WTF is that??!?
 
Second Honeymoon said:
I like the signing as long as it means Orlovsky can be an ex-Texan after the bye week. Orlovsky was a bad choice and why they gave him such an outlandish contract is still a mystery. At least with Leinart, the money is small and its only one year. I would imagine he would get another year added on if he does win the backup job. That way, if he gets playing time (and we all hope he doesn't get time due to a Schaub injury) but if he does, it would give us a chance to possibly trade him somewhere for something in return if he shows well.

As for people speculating about Matt and him playing 16 games for an incentive clause, that is just ridiculous. Matt is a gamer and has shown to be all about football and not about glamour, advertising, or worrying about his hair. Yeah, he made money due to him surviving the season, but I tend to think he made even more money by playing at a VERY HIGH level last year.

Schaub had a great year. Not sure if he can duplicate it, but if he can approach that level of play and our coaches get their head out of their ass and the defense improves, we could have a good year. It may be asking a lot for all that..especially the coaching part. you can't hide bad coaching and bad decision making..and we have had plenty of that since Kubiak arrived.
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and that sounds like a good summation of everyones feelings on either side of the issue....we are all lighting candles for Schaub's health, praying for no more turnovers or running backs with delusions of throwing "the catch". The front office has done all they can to put a good team on the field. Its now up the coaches to put the players in the position to win and up to the players to stay healthy and excecute and compete till the final gun.
 
Texan_Bill said:
WTF is that??!?
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I thought it was Mangolds sister at first glance, but I was way off.

I wasn't meaning to poke fun at her even though it sounds like it. I can't complain about a young lady wanting to pound heads on the football field.

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HOU-TEX said:
I thought it was Mangolds sister at first glance, but I was way off.

I wasn't meaning to poke fun at her even though it sounds like it. I can't complain about a young lady wanting to pound heads on the football field.

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That ain't right... errrrr she ain't right....... Nevermind. *sigh*



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Sometimes, things catch you at a loss for words.... This is one of those times.
 
People seem to be really underrating Leinart as a QB. He's never been that bad in the NFL. He played pretty well as a rookie and then struggled some as a 2nd year player and was pulled very very quickly for Kurt Warner who ran away with the job until he retired and Warner showed that he could still play at a very high level. Leinart played pretty well in pre season as well. He didn't light it up, but he didn't stink up the field either and once again he was pulled.

This was more of a situation where Whisenhunt just didn't like Leinart and had issues with him. Leiart probably didn't take to well to his type of coaching style and it was just a bad mix between them. It happens sometimes in the NFL.

But as far as a backup goes, I'm very happy to have him as a backup for now and I don't think we'll be in near as much trouble as some seem to think with Leinart back there.
 
25+ freaking pages in this thread to say this:

Matt Leinart's Situation = Bernard Pollard's Situation

Welcome to Houston. Sit down. Shut up. Work hard for Kubiak.
Rinse. Repeat.
 
Texecutioner said:
People seem to be really underrating Leinart as a QB. He's never been that bad in the NFL. He played pretty well as a rookie and then struggled some as a 2nd year player and was pulled very very quickly for Kurt Warner who ran away with the job until he retired and Warner showed that he could still play at a very high level. Leinart played pretty well in pre season as well. He didn't light it up, but he didn't stink up the field either and once again he was pulled.

This was more of a situation where Whisenhunt just didn't like Leinart and had issues with him. Leiart probably didn't take to well to his type of coaching style and it was just a bad mix between them. It happens sometimes in the NFL.

But as far as a backup goes, I'm very happy to have him as a backup for now and I don't think we'll be in near as much trouble as some seem to think with Leinart back there.
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Yeah, against us, that wasn't Leinart's fault...His O-line did him absolutely no favors in that game. I really don't think he is as bad as some people are saying. When he did get a chance to make a throw in that game, he got some good yardage...

And if I'm not mistaken, I think I heard that Leinart asked to be cut...I think Whisenhunt is going to regret that move..JMO
 
Mr. White said:
I'm not sure about his pain threshold being higher in any one year than another. I just know that he hit an incentive by playing all 16 games.

I think if there wasn't a roster bonus waiting at the end of the season, I don't think he would have come back in the game after the shoulder injury against Jacksonville. Maybe I'm jaded, but I've seen it happen before too often.
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If he started the game, he played the game. If he took two snaps, he played the game. Unless there was a percentage of snaps taken clause...

which there might have been.

But I think it is more likely that there wasn't, and he came back, because he wanted to beat those A-holes.
 
Thorn said:
Aw, go ahead and name names. I was one of them. I trashed Schaub and the trade to get him. Looks light I might have been a tad wrong on that one. LOL
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I got you beat Thorn. I was furious when some linebacker named Demeco was drafted as I wanted a left tackle. I am the smartest guy I know inside my mind.:tiphat:
 
Rey said:
Yeah, against us, that wasn't Leinart's fault...His O-line did him absolutely no favors in that game. I really don't think he is as bad as some people are saying. When he did get a chance to make a throw in that game, he got some good yardage...

And if I'm not mistaken, I think I heard that Leinart asked to be cut...I think Whisenhunt is going to regret that move..JMO
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He's played alright pretty much every year when he's gotten his chances. He just hasn't been highly impressive for a guy to be their franchise QB, that's all. But if you're considering him as a backup then he can do what most quality backups can do around the league. He can make accurate throws and he can move the ball down the field. He's just not great, that's all, but no backups are great. All the reports going back to last season about Matt's dedication and committment to getting better were all positive from Whisenhunt himself, and that's why it was such a surprise that Whisenhunt didn't want to use him this year, because Matt was supposed to be the full fledge starter. I just think the two of them didn't get a long so well and had personality clashes of some sort.

I feel much better about our QB at this point.
 
Texecutioner said:
He's played alright pretty much every year when he's gotten his chances. He just hasn't been highly impressive for a guy to be their franchise QB, that's all. But if you're considering him as a backup then he can do what most quality backups can do around the league. He can make accurate throws and he can move the ball down the field. He's just not great, that's all, but no backups are great. All the reports going back to last season about Matt's dedication and committment to getting better were all positive from Whisenhunt himself, and that's why it was such a surprise that Whisenhunt didn't want to use him this year, because Matt was supposed to be the full fledge starter. I just think the two of them didn't get a long so well and had personality clashes of some sort.

I feel much better about our QB at this point.
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Exactly!. Linert does not have to beat our Schaub just Danny O. I still think Kubiak can make a back up out of Orslovsky it is just expensive.
 
Caption This:

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“Think George A. Romero will cast me as a zombie in his next movie?”
"I can run!"
 
Frak The Jags said:
Caption This:

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“Hey Brah, where’s the Natty Light?”
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WELL NOW!! I sorta like that pic!! Looks pretty good as a TEXAN!! :heat::heart:


You guys have the "boob" thread to keep you happy, and you salivate over the cheerleaders all the time. What's wrong with us GALS having a good looking QB wearing tight pants to oogle over??! I might have to go buy myself some binoc's!!:)
 
Texecutioner said:
He's played alright pretty much every year when he's gotten his chances. He just hasn't been highly impressive for a guy to be their franchise QB, that's all. But if you're considering him as a backup then he can do what most quality backups can do around the league. He can make accurate throws and he can move the ball down the field. He's just not great, that's all, but no backups are great. All the reports going back to last season about Matt's dedication and committment to getting better were all positive from Whisenhunt himself, and that's why it was such a surprise that Whisenhunt didn't want to use him this year, because Matt was supposed to be the full fledge starter. I just think the two of them didn't get a long so well and had personality clashes of some sort.

I feel much better about our QB at this point.
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I feel there is much more to the story that just Whisenhunt not LIKING Leinart. Any coach that thinks a player can afford the team the best chance to succeed is going to deal with that player whether he likes or dislikes him.
Something else was going on to put Leinart in the category of not giving the Cards the best chance for reaching the playoffs or beyond.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I feel there is much more to the story that just Whisenhunt not LIKING Leinart. Any coach that thinks a player can afford the team the best chance to succeed is going to deal with that player whether he likes or dislikes him.
Something else was going on to put Leinart in the category of not giving the Cards the best chance for reaching the playoffs or beyond.
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From what I've heard, Leinart asked for his release.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
If that's true, then he was being threatened with being cut, probably as soon as Leinart had a week or two in the offense.
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I'm searching for something on the net, but haven't found anything yet...

Edit: I called the radio station and I asked if the host had said anything about DanO restructuring his contract

The guy who answered the phone said he hadn't heard that...So I guess I mis-heard...
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I feel there is much more to the story that just Whisenhunt not LIKING Leinart. Any coach that thinks a player can afford the team the best chance to succeed is going to deal with that player whether he likes or dislikes him.
Something else was going on to put Leinart in the category of not giving the Cards the best chance for reaching the playoffs or beyond.
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Maybe there was more to it. I'm not saying that there wasn't, but Whisenhunt clearly didn't like Leinart and that part was perfectly clear, because he spoke very highly of him a few months ago as far as his commitment meant to the team.

As far as his play on the field since getting benched for Warner is concerned though, he's played just fine. He hasn't been remarkable or anything, but he hasn't been bad either. We can all speculate about why he wasn't wanted as a starter or whatever, but it sure as hell wasn't because of his play on the field in pre season, because he outperformed his competition easily.
 
Hookem Horns said:
LOL, we are still talking about the 3rd string QB??
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Hahah I know, it is kinda funny! At least it's nice that our team is at this point though. Better than still griping about our 1st string QB and wanting HIS replacement!!

This shall forever be know as the offseason of "The Great Kicker and 3rd String QB Debates".
 
All ya'll whinin' about Leinart being here, are probably the SAME
MOFOS screamin' for Sage to be the starter over Schaub.

If that applies to you...

SHUT THE HELL UP.

The fact you believe you can STILL recommend a good qb, even a backup,
is laughable. :spin:
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
Hahah I know, it is kinda funny! At least it's nice that our team is at this point though. Better than still griping about our 1st string QB and wanting HIS replacement!!

This shall forever be know as the offseason of "The Great Kicker and 3rd String QB Debates".
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Rep for you.
Best thing said in this thread so far...and yet I keep reading...
 
Rey said:
I'm searching for something on the net, but haven't found anything yet...

Edit: I called the radio station and I asked if the host had said anything about DanO restructuring his contract

The guy who answered the phone said he hadn't heard that...So I guess I mis-heard...
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Okay, I just heard the sports flash and they definitely said that DanO restructured his deal...

Not crazy afterall...
 
DexmanC said:
All ya'll whinin' about Leinart being here, are probably the SAME
MOFOS screamin' for Sage to be the starter over Schaub.

If that applies to you...

SHUT THE HELL UP.

The fact you believe you can STILL recommend a good qb, even a backup,
is laughable. :spin:
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USC haterade as usual
 
Rey said:
Okay, I just heard the sports flash and they definitely said that DanO restructured his deal...

Not crazy afterall...
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There is no in print evidence of a restructured deal by the Card, only widespread suggestion of what the Cards might do.

But, from all the information available now, even if there would have been a last minute restructuring, logically it would have been done to make his contract more "trade friendly." As we have discussed with some of "our own," they could at least gotten something for him.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
There is no in print evidence of a restructured deal by the Card, only widespread suggestion of what the Cards might do.

But, from all the information available now, even if there would have been a last minute restructuring, logically it would have been done to make his contract more "trade friendly." As we have discussed with some of "our own," they could at least gotten something for him.
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Huh? I'm not following this. Rey was talking about DanO restructuring his deal, not Leinart restructuring his deal prior to being let go.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
There is no in print evidence of a restructured deal by the Card, only widespread suggestion of what the Cards might do.

But, from all the information available now, even if there would have been a last minute restructuring, logically it would have been done to make his contract more "trade friendly." As we have discussed with some of "our own," they could at least gotten something for him.
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It's after work and I've had a couple of after work cool ones but this has me puzzeled.

Who's the Card?

What the Cards will do about what?

Make who's contract more "trade friendly"?

I'm cornfused. *scratches head*
 
DexmanC said:
All ya'll whinin' about Leinart being here, are probably the SAME
MOFOS screamin' for Sage to be the starter over Schaub.

If that applies to you...

SHUT THE HELL UP.
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Everyone's opinion is welcome. Are you sure you want all of your previous opinions held up to scrutiny?

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drs23 said:
It's after work and I've had a couple of after work cool ones but this has me puzzeled.

Who's the Card?

What the Cards will do about what?

Make who's contract more "trade friendly"?

I'm cornfused. *scratches head*
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Here ye, here ye, read all about it............Cloak had a brain fart........last seen floating through the MB.............:texflag:
 
DexmanC said:
All ya'll whinin' about Leinart being here, are probably the SAME
MOFOS screamin' for Sage to be the starter over Schaub.

If that applies to you...

SHUT THE HELL UP.

The fact you believe you can STILL recommend a good qb, even a backup,
is laughable. :spin:
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I'm with you. I enjoy the pictures and the jokes, but I could care less that they brought Leinart in. Bottom line is that if he is playing, the season is over anyways because that means Schaub went down. I could care less who the backup is. Do you think they care up in Indy who Payton's backup is? No. Because they know that if Peyton goes down, they're done. So, again, I couldn't care is a 53 year old Warren Moon is our backup.

Oh, and I was always anti-Sage. Been a Schaub guy since I was wanting him to supplant Vick in ATL.
 
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