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2009 Member Mock (Second) Rounds 1-3
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TexansSeminole
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With the 73rd pick in the 2009 NFL Draft the Buffalo Bills select:
OLB Marcus Freeman, Ohio State
OLB Marcus Freeman, Ohio State
Texan4Ever
All Pro
Can either of you explain the reasoning behind your picks? I have no clue as to who your players are (with the exception of Marcus Freeman).
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
I have seen Mickens going in the 2nd round in a couple of mocks, so he's a good pick in the third.
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
The Bills are lacking depth at the OLB position. While Freeman will be a rookie he has experience in big games at the NCAA level, which would indicate that he could compete pretty quickly. He needs to add some strength but he could potentially be a solid backup SLB in his first year.
The pick was almost a BPA.
The pick was almost a BPA.
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
Well mine is simple, he performed well at the combine and his measurables relate to the pro game very well. While I have not watched him a lot I asked someone who has over at the ND site I goto and he raved about him. Mickens has earned honors every year he has started 2nd team big east '05, '06 and 1st '07. He was All-American 3rd team last year.
While there was others that were higher on my draft board as far as BPA, but the need to get a CB out weighed the BPA.
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With the 76th selection in the NFL draft, the New York Jets select Pat White, QB, West Virginia.
His arm strength was a big surprise at the combine, and his versatility on the offense gives him the ability to play backup QB and receiver on a Jets team looking for offense.
Going offense in rounds 1-3 may be a little much for the Jets, but you gotta play like them like their dealt. With all the defensive help they received in free agency, they had the ability to draft BPA on day 1
His arm strength was a big surprise at the combine, and his versatility on the offense gives him the ability to play backup QB and receiver on a Jets team looking for offense.
Going offense in rounds 1-3 may be a little much for the Jets, but you gotta play like them like their dealt. With all the defensive help they received in free agency, they had the ability to draft BPA on day 1
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Something Witty !
Any guess onthe Texans ?
I'm hoping for some O-line help, maybe Trevor Canfield.
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
My guess is Shonn Greene. There are a couple of other guys I would consider here, but my guess is he selects Greene.
DiehardChris
You betcha!
For the Texans, still on the board (I think):
Rashad Jennings RB
Andre Brown RB
Couple of solid safeties are out there too.
My preference would be Lawrence Sidbury, DE.
Rashad Jennings RB
Andre Brown RB
Couple of solid safeties are out there too.
My preference would be Lawrence Sidbury, DE.
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Something Witty !
Maybe , but there's still alot of backs left . I would be down to two players and if the Hogs played the Tigers in a bowl game ... they'd be looking at each other .
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The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
A lot of good picks available to us here.
Shaft75 will find a way to mess it up, though. We should just start booing now.
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
A lot of good picks available to us here.
Shaft75 will find a way to mess it up, though. We should just start booing now.
Why are you joking? He's going to mess this up. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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Something Witty !
A lot of good picks available to us here.
Shaft75 will find a way to mess it up, though. We should just start booing now.
He gets redo's for the Texans sake .
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
Texan4Ever
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How about Tyron McKenzie from USF. He is supposed to be gone by the 2nd but no one knows about him (well, of course except me 
) He is a tackling machine and a great addittion to our LB corps. Trevor Canfield is another option as well as my Michigan favorite Terrance Taylor who is a beast against the run and a poor mans Kelly Gregg.
) He is a tackling machine and a great addittion to our LB corps. Trevor Canfield is another option as well as my Michigan favorite Terrance Taylor who is a beast against the run and a poor mans Kelly Gregg.
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
How about Tyron McKenzie from USF. He is supposed to be gone by the 2nd but no one knows about him (well, of course except me
I like McKenzie, I would not be opposed to him here but if we take Cushing I am.
DiehardChris
You betcha!
How about Tyron McKenzie from USF. He is supposed to be gone by the 2nd but no one knows about him (well, of course except me
Oh, I'd be all over McKenzie for this pick if we didn't already have Cushing in this scenario.
On the other hand, I think it's a round too early to be thinking Terrance Taylor... but he's another guy that I've got going to the Texans in one of my mocks.
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
I'd like to see us pick up Shonn Greene here. It's good value, and in the same round as Slaton last year.
bah007
Hall of Fame
Per Bahoo7 pm:
With the 73rd pick The Green Bay Packers Select:
Chase Coffman - TE, Missouri
Thanks for covering for me Spec.
Somebody give him some rep for me. I can't give him any right now.
Analysis: I have Coffman as a late 2nd/early 3rd round selection so he was right on the top of my board at this point.
The Packers don't look too bad at TE so Coffman was sort of a luxury pick, but he was BPA.
He isn't a great blocker but he gets the job done and he isn't afraid to poke his nose in there against a DE. He doesn't have great speed but he is deceptively quick and has great hands. He also probably runs the best routes of any of the TE's in this class.
He also has the versatility to play out of the slot as well.
Mari-OWNED!
Bucco Bruce
I'm probably the BIGGEST Rashad Jennings supporter on these boards. I think he is the PERFECT complement to Steve Slaton. (Sorry guys I'm a bit drunk!) Haha!
How about Tyron McKenzie from USF. He is supposed to be gone by the 2nd but no one knows about him (well, of course except me
Trust me you arent the only one that knows about McKenzie around here. This board is full of draft knowlegeable people. I love TM and I dont care if we have drafted Mathews or Cushing in the first I still think he would be a great pick in the 3rd round for us. I dont care what he ran or benched at the combine the guy is a hell of a football player. He reminds me of Jon Beason.
If we really are going to have our 4 down linemen trying to penatrate and get into the backfield we are going to have to have LB's that can make plays all over the feild. McKenzie is that kind of a LB.
Taylor never impressed me and I watched him alot. He was just kinda there.
I would be happy with any of these players at this spot.
Tyrone McKenzie South Florida OLB43
Victor Harris Virginia Tech CB
Emanuel Cook South Carolina SS
Sammie Lee Hill Stillman DT43 DE34
Andy Kemp Wisconsin OG
Darcel McBath Texas Tech FS
Shonn Greene Iowa RBF
Jonathan Luigs Arkansas OC
Chip Vaughn Wake Forest SS
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Something Witty !
My two cents is Johnathon Luigis or Dorell Scott . There's alot of RBs , DBs , and LBs , still on the board . Those two are the hghest rated OL/DL by far ... on my sheet anyway .
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
Sorry to hear about your dad. Prayers are with him and your family
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
65.) Detroit Lions Select: Shawn Nelson, TE, Southern Miss
66.) St. Louis Rams Select: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State
67.) Kansas City Chiefs Select: Mike Thomas, WR, Arizona
68.) Seattle Seahawks Select: Andy Levitre, OG, Oregon State
69.) Dallas Cowboys Select: Fili Moala, DT, U.S.C.
70.) Cincinnati Bengals Select: Kraig Urbik, OG, Wisconsin
71.)Oakland Raiders Select: Antoine Caldwell, OC, Alabama
72.) Jacksonville Jaguars Select: Jarett Dillard, WR, Rice
73.) Green Bay Packers Select: Chase Coffman - TE, Missouri
74.) San Francisco 49ers Select: Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati
75.) Buffalo Bills Select: Marcus Freeman, OLB, Ohio State
76.) New York Jets Select: Pat White, QB, West Virginia
77.) Houston Texans Select: Lawrence Sidbury, DE, Richmond
78.) San Diego Chargers Select: Kyle Moore DE, USC
79.) Denver Broncos Select: Darcel McBath, S Texas Tech.
80.) Washington Redskins Select: Jonathan Luigs C Arkansas
81.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Select: TimeKiller
82.) Detroit Lions Select: Super Mario
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The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Aw, man. Hate to hear that. You'll be in our thoughts.
Really sorry about youre dad. Hope things get better.
Dont like the pick personnaly. Sid is nothing but a pass rush specialist IMO. We can get those kind of players later.
Sorry to hear about your dad, prayers sent for him and the doctors.
Showtime100
Got JJ?
My thoughts and prayers as well Shaft. Hang in there.
Texan4Ever
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Hope things go well for you and your family...my thoughts and prayers are with you and your father!
Tailgate
Fall of Hame
With the 78th pick in the 2009 NFL draft, the San Diego Chargers select:
Kyle Moore DE, USC
Tough Spot here. Chargers have major needs on both sides of the line still (DT, OT, G, DE)... and with a dwindling pool of players to choose from. Losing Igor to the Cowgirls along with Jamal Williams getting older makes it D-line help here. Kyle Moore is kinda under appreciated as a result of having to play in the shadows of so many great stars on that USC defense. Moore fits the mold for San Diego's multiple defensive system. He has great athleticism and skill for a man of his stature and should settle in at DE. Moore would be an upgrade over Igor imo and could benefit playing next to Jamal Williams.
Btw.... sorry for the delay. Work has been a pain in my arse these past couple of weeks.
Kyle Moore DE, USC
Tough Spot here. Chargers have major needs on both sides of the line still (DT, OT, G, DE)... and with a dwindling pool of players to choose from. Losing Igor to the Cowgirls along with Jamal Williams getting older makes it D-line help here. Kyle Moore is kinda under appreciated as a result of having to play in the shadows of so many great stars on that USC defense. Moore fits the mold for San Diego's multiple defensive system. He has great athleticism and skill for a man of his stature and should settle in at DE. Moore would be an upgrade over Igor imo and could benefit playing next to Jamal Williams.
Btw.... sorry for the delay. Work has been a pain in my arse these past couple of weeks.
Kaiser Toro
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With the 79th pick the Denver Broncos select S Darcel McBath, Texas Tech. The Broncos secondary is many moons old and this former CB turned S can learn from the best under Dawkins and Bailey.
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With the 80th pick in the NFL DRAFT the Washington Redskins select Jonathan Luigs C Arkansas
Players I also considered were McKenzie, Brandon Williams & Moala.
The need to rebuild the Redskins OL & the value of Luigs who is one of the most atheletic OL in the draft made this pick a no brainer IMO. There will be no excuses for Jason Campbell this year. If the draft fell this way I would expect Portis to have a big year.
Washington Redskins Mock Draft
RD. 1 William Beatty OT Connecticut
RD. 3 Jonathan Luigs C Arkansas
Players I also considered were McKenzie, Brandon Williams & Moala.
The need to rebuild the Redskins OL & the value of Luigs who is one of the most atheletic OL in the draft made this pick a no brainer IMO. There will be no excuses for Jason Campbell this year. If the draft fell this way I would expect Portis to have a big year.
Washington Redskins Mock Draft
RD. 1 William Beatty OT Connecticut
RD. 3 Jonathan Luigs C Arkansas
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
65.) Detroit Lions Select: Shawn Nelson, TE, Southern Miss
66.) St. Louis Rams Select: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State
67.) Kansas City Chiefs Select: Mike Thomas, WR, Arizona
68.) Seattle Seahawks Select: Andy Levitre, OG, Oregon State
69.) Dallas Cowboys Select: Fili Moala, DT, U.S.C.
70.) Cincinnati Bengals Select: Kraig Urbik, OG, Wisconsin
71.)Oakland Raiders Select: Antoine Caldwell, OC, Alabama
72.) Jacksonville Jaguars Select: Jarett Dillard, WR, Rice
73.) Green Bay Packers Select: Chase Coffman - TE, Missouri
74.) San Francisco 49ers Select: Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati
75.) Buffalo Bills Select: Marcus Freeman, OLB, Ohio State
76.) New York Jets Select: Pat White, QB, West Virginia
77.) Houston Texans Select: Lawrence Sidbury, DE, Richmond
78.) San Diego Chargers Select: Kyle Moore DE, USC
79.) Denver Broncos Select: Darcel McBath, S Texas Tech.
80.) Washington Redskins Select: Jonathan Luigs C Arkansas
81.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Select: Victor “Macho” Harris, CB, Virginia Tech
82.) Detroit Lions Select: Super Mario
83.) Philadelphia Eagles Select: Mari-OWNED!
84.) Green Bay Packers Select: bah007
85.) Chicago Bears Select: jgl35
86.) Minnesota Vikings Select: GROUP PICK
87.) Miami Dolphins Select: Honoring Earl 34
88.) Baltimore Ravens Select: DiehardChris
89.) New England Patriots Select: rmartin65
90.) Atlanta Falcons Select: JCTexan
91.) New York Giants Select: Lork 88
92.) Indianapolis Colts Select: Texan_JBZ
93.) Carolina Panthers Select: The Pencil Neck
94.) Tennessee Titans Select: TimeKiller
95.) Arizona Cardinals Select: BigBull1
96.) Pittsburgh Steelers Select: Ole Miss Texan
66.) St. Louis Rams Select: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State
67.) Kansas City Chiefs Select: Mike Thomas, WR, Arizona
68.) Seattle Seahawks Select: Andy Levitre, OG, Oregon State
69.) Dallas Cowboys Select: Fili Moala, DT, U.S.C.
70.) Cincinnati Bengals Select: Kraig Urbik, OG, Wisconsin
71.)Oakland Raiders Select: Antoine Caldwell, OC, Alabama
72.) Jacksonville Jaguars Select: Jarett Dillard, WR, Rice
73.) Green Bay Packers Select: Chase Coffman - TE, Missouri
74.) San Francisco 49ers Select: Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati
75.) Buffalo Bills Select: Marcus Freeman, OLB, Ohio State
76.) New York Jets Select: Pat White, QB, West Virginia
77.) Houston Texans Select: Lawrence Sidbury, DE, Richmond
78.) San Diego Chargers Select: Kyle Moore DE, USC
79.) Denver Broncos Select: Darcel McBath, S Texas Tech.
80.) Washington Redskins Select: Jonathan Luigs C Arkansas
81.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Select: Victor “Macho” Harris, CB, Virginia Tech
82.) Detroit Lions Select: Super Mario
83.) Philadelphia Eagles Select: Mari-OWNED!
84.) Green Bay Packers Select: bah007
85.) Chicago Bears Select: jgl35
86.) Minnesota Vikings Select: GROUP PICK
87.) Miami Dolphins Select: Honoring Earl 34
88.) Baltimore Ravens Select: DiehardChris
89.) New England Patriots Select: rmartin65
90.) Atlanta Falcons Select: JCTexan
91.) New York Giants Select: Lork 88
92.) Indianapolis Colts Select: Texan_JBZ
93.) Carolina Panthers Select: The Pencil Neck
94.) Tennessee Titans Select: TimeKiller
95.) Arizona Cardinals Select: BigBull1
96.) Pittsburgh Steelers Select: Ole Miss Texan
bah007
Hall of Fame
Per PM from TimeKiller:
With the 81st pick in the 2009 draft
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers Select:
Victor "Macho" Harris CB Virginia Tech
Ouch. I like Harris but he is a cover 2 corner and Tampa is changing their defense. I don't think he will fit into the new scheme unless it is going to be similar to the old one.
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
I think he would do well as Nickel while learning to work in man coverage.
DiehardChris
You betcha!
...which is exactly what we need - a pass rush specialist, and specifically - he's a SPEED rusher, which is something we don't have. We have our situational bull/power rush guy in Bulman, and it would be great to have a great speed-rusher as well to come in, change the pace, and keep the offense off balance. Sure, there will be others later in the draft, but this guy has a ton of talent and though I don't see him as a longtime starter - I think he can potentially wreak havoc as a situational rusher.
LOVE the pick.
On the personal side - Shaft, positive thoughts your way, man. I would be completely destroyed if this happened to my dad. So much that I can't even think about it without feeling sick.
Take care and know we're keeping you and your pops in our thoughts.
Which is why he isnt worth a 3rd IMO. There were players left that could potentially start. Its just a personal opinion of mine that specialist shouldnt be picked up until the 4th or later. 1st 2nd and 3rd round picks are just to valuable to take someone that cant contribute on a regular basis.
DiehardChris
You betcha!
I don't disagree with your logic here - but in the case of our crippled pass rush, we need a complete make-over... plus, you rotate defensive linemen in and out more than most other positions, so he would see the field plenty.
Like you said, personal preference... but I'd LOVE to see this guy in a Texans uni.
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