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YOUR TOP 10 TEXANS AS OF TODAY
- Thread starter badboy
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Texansballer74
The Marine
1. Watson
2. Tunsil
3. Watt
4. Fuller
5. Cunningham
6. Roby
7. Howard
8. Conley
9. David Johnson
10. Martin
11. B-Mac
12. Reid
13. Cooks
14. Stills
15. Cobbs
16. Scharping
2. Tunsil
3. Watt
4. Fuller
5. Cunningham
6. Roby
7. Howard
8. Conley
9. David Johnson
10. Martin
11. B-Mac
12. Reid
13. Cooks
14. Stills
15. Cobbs
16. Scharping
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Is it who you're realistically counting on the most..
Who you predict will have the most impact regardless of outcome..
Who you envision in a perfect scenario delivering the most..
?
Who you predict will have the most impact regardless of outcome..
Who you envision in a perfect scenario delivering the most..
?
banned1976
sleeper mode
No David Johnson yet.
Oh wait, now I see him, #9 in ballers list.
Oh wait, now I see him, #9 in ballers list.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I wanted add Martin but what we know just couldn't do it. I want to do another thread about midseason and hope he's there. I see no one to replace Scharpie and we have two replacements for Martin. Thanks, I'm good with your 16.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Like 'em and hard for me to go Cunningham over Reid but I think in Weaver's playbook, he will be of greater importance than Reid. Man I wish I could have added Jamal Adams.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Well we cannot know there will be a perfect scenario so as I said based on what we know. Watt is there because we know he is healthy today. Perfect scenario, he could be probowler. Of course with him and Fuller for instance neither may play full season..but today we do not know that.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Interesting. You think Martin better player than Scharping?
badboy
Hall of Fame
I considered TE Fells but think he plays lesser role with our now top four Receivers. He is good. Why Weeks top 10? Love to hear why you chose him. I would put Fairbairn over Weeks as he puts points on board. Looking forward your response!
Seegara
Guitar Picker, Dog Lover, Woodworker
I too thought about Fairbairn and even Anger, but Weeks has been a very reliable snapper for so long and it would be hard to replace him.
DW4
Tunsil
Watt
Reid
Howard
Roby
Cunningham
WFV
Conley
Blacklock
These are the guys that must stay healthy and produce for the Texans to have a successful season. Not necessarily their best 10 players. You could also add to the group.
Cooks
Scharping
DJ.
Thinking about this list just made me realize how bad this roster really is.
Watson at the top ... obviously.
But after that , its two guys that can't stay healthy and the most penalized player in the league last year.
Watt
WFV
Tunsil.
The fact that anyone at all has or considered putting the long snapper or the liquored up kicker on their list just punctuates this fact.
I can't really put any of the newly acquired guys on the list - really don't know what they will look like ...
I only got to 4.
Watson at the top ... obviously.
But after that , its two guys that can't stay healthy and the most penalized player in the league last year.
Watt
WFV
Tunsil.
The fact that anyone at all has or considered putting the long snapper or the liquored up kicker on their list just punctuates this fact.
I can't really put any of the newly acquired guys on the list - really don't know what they will look like ...
I only got to 4.
Trail.Blazr
Hooked up to a Kool-Aid IV
Agreed. Looking at the prior posted lists, got me thinking that if I'm a fan of any other team, these top 10's look uninspiring/mediocre at best. Then, looking at them as a Texans fan, I still feel a lack of awe.
Here's hoping that there are some diamonds in the rough. Like more than 2.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Hey! Start your own thread!
Scharpie going to be solid no fanfare "quiet Bulldog"; no bark all bite.
badboy
Hall of Fame
So Reid, McKinney nor Cunningham makes you nod your head?
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banned1976
sleeper mode
We know what David Johnson, Cobb, Cooks, and Fuller could be. And that’s the problem. And based upon that, I’d actually put Fells above all four of those guys because I feel comfortable he’ll at least suit up for all 16. He’ll contribute in some way.
I’m like you. 4 or 5 guys I can count on, the rest, who knows. And that goes for Mercilus too. He’s been generally healthy for his career minus one year but he’s the invisible man most games.
I was really high on Cunningham coming out of college , thought he was the answer to this teams issues defending TE's - He hasn't lived up to those expectations.
We've had the same problems with opposing TE's for as long as I can remember .... maybe its the scheme , who knows but he hasn't lived up to expectations.
McKinney is a solid inside guy - against the run .... but one or the other of them has to be able to cover a baby with a blanket.
And Cunningham is coming up for an extension soon .... I'd probably be looking for his replacement in next years draft - if we had any picks.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Are you open to trading them? Or we have no one to replace.
I'd keep one or the other (the cheaper of the two) and look to replace the other one way or another be that trade , free agency or thru the draft.
I just don't think a defense can afford to have two guys who can't cover in the middle.
Cunningham is cheap this year but RFA after this season , if you could get him for less than the 9.16m average for McKinney over 3 years from 21-23 , I'd keep him .... and I think , with a contracting cap , odds are Cunningham would be the cheaper of the two. 198m cap this year with projections of ~140m in 2021.
You'd likely get a better return for McKinney via trade and he doesn't have a whole lot of dead money at 1.5m total in 21.
Trading one doesn't mean you get equal value nor a pick that would net you a player to fill the void either.
Not having 1st and 2nd round draft picks next year really sucks , particularly so if you believe they take a step back in terms of record this year .... which I do as I think they finish no better than 3rd in the division probably 6-10 / 7-9 and that equates to sending Miami roughly picks 15 & 45ish or higher.
Texansballer74
The Marine
I am not getting rid of our leading tackler. Lol they will pay him and probably replace B-Mac.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Agree as I would trade either or both for players. Cunningham has basically been JAG. Jacob Martin is my hope going forward as he is similar and has been consistent with 6.5 sacks last two years with QB hits at 15 in minimal snaps. He hasn't shown ability to defend either but I hesitate to say OBrien will use our third for replacement more likely one of our fourths.
theCATALYST
Football Messiah
1) Nick Tiano
2) Karan Higdon
3) Keke Coutee
4) David Steinmetz
5) Auzoyah Alufohai
6) Carlos Watkins
7) Cornell Armstrong
8) Jan Johnson
9) Eric Murray
10) Kahale Warring
2) Karan Higdon
3) Keke Coutee
4) David Steinmetz
5) Auzoyah Alufohai
6) Carlos Watkins
7) Cornell Armstrong
8) Jan Johnson
9) Eric Murray
10) Kahale Warring
badboy
Hall of Fame
TBF, McKinney gets lots of his 102 tackles due to his position as most would. He often looks late to the ball to me. I think Weaver will introduce a playbook that will decrease BMac's value. We need a inside LB that can cover as Corrosion said. I think that is why OBrien allegedly offered him in trade for Jamal Adams as Jets could use his skill set.
badboy
Hall of Fame
How long did you have to work on that?
Texansballer74
The Marine
I think they will slide Cunningham to that position once they get rid of Mac. He’s not great but average in coverage. And let’s be real here, it’s extremely hard for any LB to cover the likes of Kelce TE and the likes of McCaffrey RB.
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Texansballer74
The Marine
I feel ya. Pulling for the underdogs
Right now, yes. If this were, whom would you give a long term contract to, Scharping would be in the top 10. You said today. Just following your rules.
badboy
Hall of Fame
true but they can't cover anyone else either.
badboy
Hall of Fame
wouldn't it be nice if some of those came through in a big way? I'm rooting for John Reid, Coulter, Iwuagwu, Heck and Jamir Jones who had a great last game against Stanford with a sack, six QB hurries and a 90 pass rush grade. I'm looking at them more for 2021.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Thanks for input. I was considering Scharpie who started 14 of 16 938 snaps vs Martin 223 snaps. Hoping Martin explodes this season.
No, I said Nick Martin. The center. You're thinking of Jacob Martin. The backup pass rusher.
Yet Watson is able to drag them into the playoffs, 2 years running. Just thinking out loud, but Watson might be pretty good after all.
dream_team
Hall of Fame
I hear ya. But to be fair, we're not as top heavy as before... but the talent IS more spread out IMO. And we have talent at the most important position.
For as much as we complain, there has to be a reason why we continue to make the playoffs. And it's not because we're in a weak division that any mediocre team will win. (Wish I had that answer for you)
austins23
Hall of Fame
Weeks is money!
House of Pain
Wild Speculator
1.) Watt
2.) Weeks
3.) Scharping
4.) Gillaspia
5.) N. Martin
6.) McCarron
7.) Anger
8.) Mancz
9.) Fairbairn
10.) Warring
2.) Weeks
3.) Scharping
4.) Gillaspia
5.) N. Martin
6.) McCarron
7.) Anger
8.) Mancz
9.) Fairbairn
10.) Warring
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Yep, it's all about the God of the Texans. Nobody else really does anything, yet somehow they won just as many AFC championships and playoff games without DW4 as with him.
Little snowflakey, are we? I do admit that there is one player who had a hand in all of the success of the Billy Oh era. Billy's won jack without Hop. But we're talking about today.
You would know more about snowflakes than me.
The Texans will be just fine without Nuk. But God of the Texans is going to have to learn to play the QB position now.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Simple....OB's first 3 years saw RC and the Texans defense carry the team in a far better AFCS. OB's 2nd 3 years saw Watson and the offense carry the Texans to enough wins to win during a woefully down period of the AFCS.
If Watson and Hopkins had not been with the Texans during this 2nd 3 year stint, Texans are probably drafting routinely within the top 8 picks and OB would've been shown the door......even during the period of the AFCS being down.
If Watson and Hopkins had not been with the Texans during this 2nd 3 year stint, Texans are probably drafting routinely within the top 8 picks and OB would've been shown the door......even during the period of the AFCS being down.
Mangler
Toro de España
Reported for WAY too much truth!
Yep, everybody but BOB deserves credit for any success the Texans have had. Anything that goes wrong is all his fault.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Im about to report him for speaking facts too Mangler.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Yeah I blew right past Nick. When I selected Scharpie over Nick it was close due to Martin's interaction with QB. Our center gets blasted by opponents every game it seems. I was stunned when he got the extension.
badboy
Hall of Fame
That would be the singer Norah Jones. She plays just a little less than Weeks but more enjoyable for me to watch.