Maddict5
Hall of Fame
no way we only go with 3 total TE's & FB. last yr we had 5. this year hes thinking of dropping it to 4 imo not 3
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Your opening day 53 man roster prediction.
- Thread starter Corrosion
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no way we only go with 3 total TE's & FB. last yr we had 5. this year hes thinking of dropping it to 4 imo not 3
That was a proposal, but the NFL and NFLPA could not come to an agreement on it.
TimeKiller
Guest
qb- Schaub, Yates, Keenum
rb- Foster, Tate, Grimes, Forsett
fb- Casey, Norris
te- Daniels, Graham, Brock
wr- Johnson, Walter, Martin, Jean, Posey
olstarters- Brown, W Smith, Myers, Caldwell, Newton
oldepth- Butler, Brooks, Jones, S Smith
dl- Watt, Cody, A Smith, Jamison, Mitchell, Crick
lb- Reed, Cushing, Barwin, Mercilus, Braman, Alexander, Dobbins
cb- Joseph, Jackson, McCain, Harris, McMannis, Ball
s- Manning, Quin, Nolan, Keo, Demps
p- Jones
k- Graham
kr/pr- Holliday
rb- Foster, Tate, Grimes, Forsett
fb- Casey, Norris
te- Daniels, Graham, Brock
wr- Johnson, Walter, Martin, Jean, Posey
olstarters- Brown, W Smith, Myers, Caldwell, Newton
oldepth- Butler, Brooks, Jones, S Smith
dl- Watt, Cody, A Smith, Jamison, Mitchell, Crick
lb- Reed, Cushing, Barwin, Mercilus, Braman, Alexander, Dobbins
cb- Joseph, Jackson, McCain, Harris, McMannis, Ball
s- Manning, Quin, Nolan, Keo, Demps
p- Jones
k- Graham
kr/pr- Holliday
If Roc Carmichael doesn't make this team, I'll be surprised. I guess they could try to sneak him onto the practice squad, but the guy was a 4th round pick.
I know he had a bad game this past week, but the week before he looked ok.
The guy is basically a rookie after spending all of last year on IR. Cutting him would be a complete waste of a 4th round pick and I really don't see them giving up on him that soon.
I know he had a bad game this past week, but the week before he looked ok.
The guy is basically a rookie after spending all of last year on IR. Cutting him would be a complete waste of a 4th round pick and I really don't see them giving up on him that soon.
TimeKiller
Guest
Nope. Either they need to stop putting him in coverage or cut him. He's been less than impressive in a scheme he's supposedly familiar with. Alexander is bigger/faster/stronger and Dobbins is outplaying every ILB not named Cushing. They still have the possibility of Sharpton later in the season too.
I forgot Carmichael, I'd put him in instead of Ball in like less than a heartbeat. Basically no ex-Cowboys hehe....
dream_team
Hall of Fame
I agree Bradie has looked like crap, but I still think he'll start opposite Cushing when the season starts.
GP
Go Texans!
I thought I was the only one who thought Bradie James looks bad so far.
But good luck convincing Wade that Bradie James isn't going to be on this roster, let alone a starter on the field at ILB.
I think we're going to have to just accept that Wade has a guy, James, who is an oldie he's fond of...so we're stuck with him.
Dobbins is straight up OWNING out there, it's patently obvious to anyone who watches without bias. Dude is standing up RBs on a consistent basis.
But good luck convincing Wade that Bradie James isn't going to be on this roster, let alone a starter on the field at ILB.
I think we're going to have to just accept that Wade has a guy, James, who is an oldie he's fond of...so we're stuck with him.
Dobbins is straight up OWNING out there, it's patently obvious to anyone who watches without bias. Dude is standing up RBs on a consistent basis.
drs23
Veteran
That's what I think as well. Put me in the "not impressed" camp as far as James' play. Too many whiffed arm tackles. It's not that he's not around the ball, he just doesn't make the tackle. Several that should have been TFL but the runner ended up 4 - 6 yards positive gain. We can't have that. Dobbins has looked really good and Mister has looked good as well.
TimeKiller
Guest
He sure seems to make good plays constantly. This is why I think HE should be the starter, rotating in Alexander when necessary. I think the two of them more than fill up the 2 down run plugging LB role. I guess I wouldn't mind if James was a injury-insurance plan for Cushing but to say he's a starter on this roster is...just...ugh...brainasplode.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
No, GP, I think we're all on the same page wrt Bradie James. I'd much rather have Dobbins out there at this point. James just doesn't look like he's got it, anymore.
But I don't think we're on the same page as Wade. I think Wade likes him and wants him out there.
But I don't think we're on the same page as Wade. I think Wade likes him and wants him out there.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Bradie James will look a whole lot stronger with a healthy Cushing out there. He brings cerebral presence that Wade Phillips trust's.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Bradie James will look a whole lot stronger with a healthy Cushing out there. He brings cerebral presence that Wade Phillips trust's.
I hope you're right.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
he was right in Grahams hip pocket one on one. that was totally blown coverage call with no safety help over the top. Jimmy is elite for his position at least extra help should be expected, I can't fault Bradie for that, it's not like he should be expected to climb the ladder, he also has short wingspan which is perfectly normal for ILB position
Bleed_Blu_Red
Waterboy
We play the 4-1-6 a lot of times and the Hybrid Nickel which GQ comes up to the ILB spot and Nolan or Demps plays safety so Cush is the only lb on the field. I meen Bradie is on his last leg what do you expect, that's the exact reason I miss Sharpton so much but I think he will improve once the season starts and he adjust to the personal we have
Fangupo makes the team, atleast for a month and a half because I heard a little birdy say Cody might get PUPed.
And sorry to say, but my Idaho guy Keo is history, while Posey is a def lock
unless they IR him. And I think QB Kenum is on the 53, Holliday also unless he
fumbles again Thursday. And I just don't have even a guess for which corners end up on the 53-man roster after JJ, Kareem, & McCain ?
And sorry to say, but my Idaho guy Keo is history, while Posey is a def lock
unless they IR him. And I think QB Kenum is on the 53, Holliday also unless he
fumbles again Thursday. And I just don't have even a guess for which corners end up on the 53-man roster after JJ, Kareem, & McCain ?
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
You need to shoot that little birdy because Cody can't get PUPed. He started training camp on the active roster and got hurt during camp. Therefore, can't go on PUP.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Plus, he and Watt are already practicing full speed. Fangupo hasn't impressed at all imo. He'd be lucky to make the PS. Harris, on the other hand, was looking great before tearing his tri. I'd like to see him back next year
I dont know where I stand with him making the final roster ... He did sniff out a screen against the Aints - disengaging blockers and moving to the flat to make the tackle with Nading .... That was a smart play tho Im not sure Ive seen enough from him.
Offense - 23
QB Schaub, Yates, Keenum
RB Foster, Tate, Forsett
FB Casey, Norris
TE Daniels, Graham
T Brown, Butler, Newton
G W.Smith, Caldwell, Brooks
C Myers, Jones
WR Johnson, Walter, Martin, Jean , Posey
Defense - 26
DE Smith, Watt, Jamison, Crick
NT Cody, Mitchell
OLB Barwin, Reed, Mercilus, Braman, Nading
ILB Cushing, James, Dobbins, Alexander
CB Joseph, Jackson, McCain, Harris, McManis , Ball
S Manning, Quin, Demps, Nolan, Keo
Special Teams - 4
LS Weeks
K Graham
P Jones
PR/KR - Holliday
There is still some competition for roster spots at multiple positions.
Ive got them keeping 3 RB's for now tho I could see them keeping both Forsett and Grimes or either one of them. Its a toss up for now.
QB - Keenum and Beck for the #3
RB - Forsett and Grimes although both could make the final 53.
KR/PR - Trycycle still has to earn that roster spot , holding onto the ball and making good decisions with when to return or not going a long way twards that.
CB - The final spot between Ball and Carmichael is still up for grabs. I have Ball ahead at this point.
Have to wonder if they keep Keo as he has no PS elegibility .... this could affect other roster spots , especially the decision between 3 and 4 RB's or another TE tho Casey gives them a bit of flexability there. For now I have them keeping Keo.
Does Posey come down with a mysterious injury and land on IR .... Tough decision here because that would put him out of football for two years , thats a pretty big risk considering the 3rd round pick. Until he's IR'd , i have him on the final roster.
TE - Carrying only two for now with Casey as TE3 , this could change with a cut at CB , S or WR. Dont think Brock or Supernaw have shown enough , if there is a 3rd TE he'snot on the roster currently.
QB Schaub, Yates, Keenum
RB Foster, Tate, Forsett
FB Casey, Norris
TE Daniels, Graham
T Brown, Butler, Newton
G W.Smith, Caldwell, Brooks
C Myers, Jones
WR Johnson, Walter, Martin, Jean , Posey
Defense - 26
DE Smith, Watt, Jamison, Crick
NT Cody, Mitchell
OLB Barwin, Reed, Mercilus, Braman, Nading
ILB Cushing, James, Dobbins, Alexander
CB Joseph, Jackson, McCain, Harris, McManis , Ball
S Manning, Quin, Demps, Nolan, Keo
Special Teams - 4
LS Weeks
K Graham
P Jones
PR/KR - Holliday
There is still some competition for roster spots at multiple positions.
Ive got them keeping 3 RB's for now tho I could see them keeping both Forsett and Grimes or either one of them. Its a toss up for now.
QB - Keenum and Beck for the #3
RB - Forsett and Grimes although both could make the final 53.
KR/PR - Trycycle still has to earn that roster spot , holding onto the ball and making good decisions with when to return or not going a long way twards that.
CB - The final spot between Ball and Carmichael is still up for grabs. I have Ball ahead at this point.
Have to wonder if they keep Keo as he has no PS elegibility .... this could affect other roster spots , especially the decision between 3 and 4 RB's or another TE tho Casey gives them a bit of flexability there. For now I have them keeping Keo.
Does Posey come down with a mysterious injury and land on IR .... Tough decision here because that would put him out of football for two years , thats a pretty big risk considering the 3rd round pick. Until he's IR'd , i have him on the final roster.
TE - Carrying only two for now with Casey as TE3 , this could change with a cut at CB , S or WR. Dont think Brock or Supernaw have shown enough , if there is a 3rd TE he'snot on the roster currently.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
One thing we've got to remember is that we're not restricted to the guys currently on the team. FB#2 might not be DSmith or Norris.
RSmith has worked some magic in the past finding guys that have been cut by other teams. When Kubiak was talking about FB, he could have his eye on someone they expect to get cut from another team.
RSmith has worked some magic in the past finding guys that have been cut by other teams. When Kubiak was talking about FB, he could have his eye on someone they expect to get cut from another team.
Yeah , Ive made this point multiple times , especially about the 3rd TE spot.
I only have 8 OL making my final 53 .... 4 RB's is a possibility but I think its more likely they use that roster spot on defense or for special teams standouts tho Grimes did show well on ST making several tackles thus far.
Nading is a really good ST player .... That and the ability to play inside or out may be the determining factor between him and Alexander.
I think there are several players that have to play their way on/off the roster.
Keenum/Beck - I think Keenum could be moved to the practice squad with the Texans carrying only Schaub and Yates on the active roster. Watch for the waiver wire here, too, as a young vet that Kubiak likes could become available (like Leinart did in 2010).
Forsett/Grimes - Probably closer than I originally thought. The Texans could possibly keep both, if they go with 2 QBs.
Norris - I think Norris has to worry about who shows up on the waiver wire.
Brock - I think he makes the roster, unless the Texans find someone better on the waiver wire.
Gardner - He's lost some traction through preseason and needs a big game.
Shelley Smith - He needs an injury to one of the 5 interior linemen ahead of him on the depth chart.
Posey - The rookie either makes the roster or becomes victim to some type of injury. I think he makes it.
Fangupo - Needs a big game, and still could be cut if the Texans find someone better on the waiver wire.
Alexander - Another spot where the Texans look hard at the waiver wire.
Carmichael/Ball - One could make the team, or both could be cut. They need to shine to make it to Week 1.
Keo - Right now, he's a special teams player only. That Pleasant can be stashed on the practice squad hurts his chances.
Holliday - Unless he has a Chernobyl meltdown, Trindon is on the team.
I count as many as 6 positions the Texans could be looking at upgrades via the waiver wire. They won't bring in 6 players, but I think they will find 2 or 3 before opening day.
Keenum/Beck - I think Keenum could be moved to the practice squad with the Texans carrying only Schaub and Yates on the active roster. Watch for the waiver wire here, too, as a young vet that Kubiak likes could become available (like Leinart did in 2010).
Forsett/Grimes - Probably closer than I originally thought. The Texans could possibly keep both, if they go with 2 QBs.
Norris - I think Norris has to worry about who shows up on the waiver wire.
Brock - I think he makes the roster, unless the Texans find someone better on the waiver wire.
Gardner - He's lost some traction through preseason and needs a big game.
Shelley Smith - He needs an injury to one of the 5 interior linemen ahead of him on the depth chart.
Posey - The rookie either makes the roster or becomes victim to some type of injury. I think he makes it.
Fangupo - Needs a big game, and still could be cut if the Texans find someone better on the waiver wire.
Alexander - Another spot where the Texans look hard at the waiver wire.
Carmichael/Ball - One could make the team, or both could be cut. They need to shine to make it to Week 1.
Keo - Right now, he's a special teams player only. That Pleasant can be stashed on the practice squad hurts his chances.
Holliday - Unless he has a Chernobyl meltdown, Trindon is on the team.
I count as many as 6 positions the Texans could be looking at upgrades via the waiver wire. They won't bring in 6 players, but I think they will find 2 or 3 before opening day.
Did not know that, nor did my little feathered friend. Congrats on your knowledge of the rules
Therefor I'm thinking they do retain Fangupo for several games until Codys return
to the lineup, unless the Texans pick up someone from the waiver wire. The plain
truth is they have no reserve at NG for Mitch with "The Nose" being layed up.
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
It has just been agreed to (and it also moves the trade deadline from week 6 to week 8).
LINK
If this is unchanged from the original agreement approved by the owners, the IR change still wouldn't apply to anybody placed on IR during the preseason. I believe it has to be someone on the 53 man roster for the opening game.
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
You've just described the reserve PUP rule which has been in existence for several years now. Sharpton's already been placed on the reserve PUP. There will be no need to waste their one IR exception on someone who won't be taking up a roster spot for a minimum of 6 weeks anyway.
I think he was talking about the pup rule.
If I understand correctly it has been changed and extended.
Of course I heard that on the radio so that info could be wrong.
Bleed_Blu_Red
Waterboy
Well now that Butler is lost I think Shelly Smith just made the 53 so the oline should be as is
Lt-Dbo,Gardner
Lg-Wade smith,Shelly smith
C-Myers,Jones
Rg-Caldwell,Brooks
Rt-Newton
Kubiak talked about maybe playing Brooks at OT if need be unless we bring in another OT or bring back Mondek
Lt-Dbo,Gardner
Lg-Wade smith,Shelly smith
C-Myers,Jones
Rg-Caldwell,Brooks
Rt-Newton
Kubiak talked about maybe playing Brooks at OT if need be unless we bring in another OT or bring back Mondek
Bleed_Blu_Red
Waterboy
Shelly Smith wasn't gona make my roster with butler and newton now he will make the cut
Bleed_Blu_Red
Waterboy
We usually keep 8 to 9 olineman I don't think we would keep 10 which is what the original number would have been if we didn't put him on the PS
You must have had 4 tackles making the team before butler got hurt.
Bleed_Blu_Red
Waterboy
Ya exactly I had Dbo,Gardner,Newton,Butler since Jones can play C or G same with Caldwell so no need to keep 4 OG in my opinion
Ok, I understand what you are saying now. That makes sense.
Bleed_Blu_Red
Waterboy
Well see what happens
Bleed_Blu_Red
Waterboy
Like Grimes like a motha i dont think he makes the cut. due to alot of spots being locked up coming into and going into the season into the season and doubt we go 4deep at RB hope and pray we can keep him on the PS
I think I'm still going to have grimes on my roster. I have to see think about it.
I think I'm going to take Norris off my roster though. I just don't know. The coaches have some tough decisions to make and they gotta make them fast.
Bleed_Blu_Red
Waterboy
Ya, I think we will keep Norris due to the fact kubiak will move Casey around and he also accounts as one of are Te's
Bleed_Blu_Red
Waterboy
Edited 53 man roster
Qb-Schaub,Yates
Rb-Foster,Tate,Forsett
Fb-Casey,Norris
Te-Od,Graham
Wr-Dre,Kw,Jean,Martin,Posey,Holliday
Lt-Dbo,Gardner
Lg-Wade Smith,Shelly Smith
C-Myers,Jones
Rg-Caldwell,Brooks
Rt-Newton
De-Antonio,Watt,Jamison,Crick
Dt-Cody,Mitchell,Fangupo
Olb-Barwin,Reed,Mercilus,Braman,Nading
Mlb-Cush,James,Dobbins,Alexander
Cb-J-Joe,Kareem,McCain,Harris,McMannis,Ball
Fs-GQ,Nolan
Ss-Manning,Demps
K-Graham
P-Jones
Ls-Weeks
PUP-Sharpton will take his spot back from Alexander if he is able to play this yr
PS-Rb-Grimes,Wr-Maehl,Qb-Keenum
Qb-Schaub,Yates
Rb-Foster,Tate,Forsett
Fb-Casey,Norris
Te-Od,Graham
Wr-Dre,Kw,Jean,Martin,Posey,Holliday
Lt-Dbo,Gardner
Lg-Wade Smith,Shelly Smith
C-Myers,Jones
Rg-Caldwell,Brooks
Rt-Newton
De-Antonio,Watt,Jamison,Crick
Dt-Cody,Mitchell,Fangupo
Olb-Barwin,Reed,Mercilus,Braman,Nading
Mlb-Cush,James,Dobbins,Alexander
Cb-J-Joe,Kareem,McCain,Harris,McMannis,Ball
Fs-GQ,Nolan
Ss-Manning,Demps
K-Graham
P-Jones
Ls-Weeks
PUP-Sharpton will take his spot back from Alexander if he is able to play this yr
PS-Rb-Grimes,Wr-Maehl,Qb-Keenum
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Damn. Some great stuff out there tonight. Here's my final attempt at it:
Offense: 24
QB: Schaub, Yates, Beck
RB: Foster, Tate, Forsett
FB: Casey, Norris
WR: AJ, KW, KMart, Jean, Posey, Holiday
TE: OD, GG
LT: DB, Gardner
LG: Smith
C: Myers, Jones
RG: Caldwell, Brooks
RT: Newton
Defense: 26
DE: Smith, Watt, Jamison, Crick
NT: Cody, Earl
OLB: Barwin, Reed, Braman, Mercilus, Bryant
ILB: Cush, James, Dobbins, Alexander
CB: JJo, Jackson, McCain, Harris, McMannis, Carmichael
S: Manning, Quin, Demps, Nolan, Pleasant
LS: Weeks
P: Jones
K: Graham
--- PS ---
NT - Fangupo
TE - Brock, Supernaw
FB - Smith
QB - Keenum
DE - King
LB - Loiseau
RB - Grimes
I think Beck solidified his spot and Keenum's going to PS.
I think Grimes didn't flash enough and is going to PS.
I liked what I saw from Ben Jones playing BOTH Center and Guard. He handed one guy off to the tackle (Menkins, iirc) and the tackle wasn't there and that almost got Case killed but I don't think that was his fault.
Norris is an enigma. He looked good blocking. I don't know if that's enough to make the squad. He's got to catch the ball and his hands looked like Vickers's hands looked last year. And that's not a good thing.
I just can't cut Bryant. I don't know if he makes the team but he's been bringing it all preseason. I keep him.
I've got too many DBs. I think Keo played himself off the squad and I think Pleasant played himself on. Carmichael looked much better this game and I'm putting him in and cutting Ball... but honestly, I'm afraid Ball's going to make the team.
No way we don't make a spot for Tri-cycle now.
Offense: 24
QB: Schaub, Yates, Beck
RB: Foster, Tate, Forsett
FB: Casey, Norris
WR: AJ, KW, KMart, Jean, Posey, Holiday
TE: OD, GG
LT: DB, Gardner
LG: Smith
C: Myers, Jones
RG: Caldwell, Brooks
RT: Newton
Defense: 26
DE: Smith, Watt, Jamison, Crick
NT: Cody, Earl
OLB: Barwin, Reed, Braman, Mercilus, Bryant
ILB: Cush, James, Dobbins, Alexander
CB: JJo, Jackson, McCain, Harris, McMannis, Carmichael
S: Manning, Quin, Demps, Nolan, Pleasant
LS: Weeks
P: Jones
K: Graham
--- PS ---
NT - Fangupo
TE - Brock, Supernaw
FB - Smith
QB - Keenum
DE - King
LB - Loiseau
RB - Grimes
I think Beck solidified his spot and Keenum's going to PS.
I think Grimes didn't flash enough and is going to PS.
I liked what I saw from Ben Jones playing BOTH Center and Guard. He handed one guy off to the tackle (Menkins, iirc) and the tackle wasn't there and that almost got Case killed but I don't think that was his fault.
Norris is an enigma. He looked good blocking. I don't know if that's enough to make the squad. He's got to catch the ball and his hands looked like Vickers's hands looked last year. And that's not a good thing.
I just can't cut Bryant. I don't know if he makes the team but he's been bringing it all preseason. I keep him.
I've got too many DBs. I think Keo played himself off the squad and I think Pleasant played himself on. Carmichael looked much better this game and I'm putting him in and cutting Ball... but honestly, I'm afraid Ball's going to make the team.
No way we don't make a spot for Tri-cycle now.
Qb: schaub, Yates
Fb: Casey
Rb: foster, Tate, Forsett, grimes
Wr: the obvious 5
TE: od, Grahm, Brock
OT: brown, newton, that one guy
OG: caldwell, wade, Brooks
C: Meyers, jones
DE: watt, crick, Antonio, Jamison
NT: Cody, Mitchell, fangupo
OLB: reed, barwin, merci, Braman, nading, Bryant
MLB: James, Cush, mr, dobbins
Cb: kjax, jjo, McCain, Harris, Carmichael
S: Quinn, manning, Nolan, demps,
K
P
KR
LS
PS: Keenum, supernaw, pleasant, louiseau, the other guy from u of h, guy x, guy y
Fb: Casey
Rb: foster, Tate, Forsett, grimes
Wr: the obvious 5
TE: od, Grahm, Brock
OT: brown, newton, that one guy
OG: caldwell, wade, Brooks
C: Meyers, jones
DE: watt, crick, Antonio, Jamison
NT: Cody, Mitchell, fangupo
OLB: reed, barwin, merci, Braman, nading, Bryant
MLB: James, Cush, mr, dobbins
Cb: kjax, jjo, McCain, Harris, Carmichael
S: Quinn, manning, Nolan, demps,
K
P
KR
LS
PS: Keenum, supernaw, pleasant, louiseau, the other guy from u of h, guy x, guy y
Bleed_Blu_Red
Waterboy
Totally agree on Mitch King liked him at Iowa but was unsure if we would put him on the PS. I would replace Fangupo with him for sure just not sure he will make the cut and I kept Fang because of Cody's back and at worst he can be a big body and suck up blocks