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Who's your quarterback - 2015 v2.0

Corrosion

Corrosion

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The worst part about this season is that we are no closer to solving the long term riddle of who is this teams quarterback going forward.

Fitz should have been no more than a placeholder.

Mallett had a chance to be that guy (and still does) but we didn't see enough of him to make a decision & he didn't perform well enough to put his stamp on the position when he was afforded the opportunity.


Savage was .... like a deer in headlights. Wont go so far as to say he cant be the guy but at best . he's still a year or more away from being a capable backup much less starter material.


With Fitz they won too many games to get an early pick to get a top talent and didn't develop a QB .... and Clowney was a total bust due to injury. This team is probably in worse shape now than last year this time when they had the #1 overall as the top QB prospects will likely be gone by the time they get around to drafting a player or they will have to make a significant more up in the draft to target one of those players.

Who you got under center in 2015 ?!
 
You don't have to be up that early in the draft to take a decent QB. And even if we did, I wouldn't touch Jamies Winston or Marcus Mariota with ten foot poles.

I think it will be a head to head comp between Mallet and Savage.

And speaking of Savage, yeah he was an unprepared deer-in-the-headlights yesterday.

So what?

Does that mean you think he will always be like that? I saw a lot of positives in his play, considering everything. Especially his ability to pinpoint a long throw. Reps and playing time make big difference.

Right now, if there was an accuracy competition between Mallet and Savage, my money is on Savage.
 
I don't like the idea of drafting Winston either (Mariota is a different story).... but we cant go another year with a revolving door at the QB spot or the franchise is just stuck in the mud spinning its wheels.

Mariota likely goes in the top 3 , Winston I dunno where his character issues drop him to .... but he may be gone as well.

What about Hundley or one of the other prospects ?!

Who's on the FA scrap heap that might be better than Fitz ?!
 
For me it's mallet.

I was highly skeptical about him, and was not happy at all when we brought him in.

But I have to admit he is the best QB we've seen on the field in some time now. Or at least it looked the best to me.

If they want to keep savage is fine with me, as developmental QB.
 
If I'm Rick Smith's inevitable replacement, I draft one of Mariota, Winston or Cook, no matter what it takes to land one of those guys.
 
Mallet

Then invest in the big uglies along the line and a TE. Wait....that is what we did this year.

Oh well second verse same as the first
 
This season it was a clean sweep of the QBs from the previous year, I don't think that will be the case for next season. Unless we draft someone, we already know at least one name (Savage) who will be on the roster next year. And I'm betting that one of the two (Fitz or Mallet) will be on the roster as well.

Hopefully we draft a good QB.
 
I'd be all in for Mariota. He'll either bust this organization for a few years. Or be the actual franchise QB we've never had.

You have to take that chance, right? Otherwise, we'll never keep up with the Lucks
 
It was a limited sample, but I liked what I saw from Mallett.

I think he could be the starter next year.
 
Corrosion said:
The worst part about this season is that we are no closer to solving the long term riddle of who is this teams quarterback going forward.
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If I had my rathers, it would be Mallett, Savage, & a rookie... in that order.
 
Corrosion said:
I don't like the idea of drafting Winston either (Mariota is a different story).... but we cant go another year with a revolving door at the QB spot or the franchise is just stuck in the mud spinning its wheels.
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Why do we believe that? Wasn't it just 10 months ago we were talking about the Seahawks doing it the right way? Why can't we do it that way. Let's get us a defense that could make Andrew Luck & Tom Brady look like Aaron Rodgers did yesterday.

Let's get a mean RT so that Arian or whoever we have at RB can look like Arian does this year...

I've got nothing against drafting a QB in the first round. I had no problem taking Bortles, Manziel, or Bridgewater after 20. & the same goes for both Wintson & Mariota next year.

But if we want to "stop" the revolving door, I think we sign Mallett to be the starter. It's that simple. Good or bad, he's playing week 1 through week 17. Even during the bye, he'll be the starter.

Savage is the back up. Period. & the rookie, even if we use a first round pick on him is running the scout team. IF mr 1st round QB is good enough, he moves to back-up the year after & Tom Savage is released & we find another rookie to run the scout team.

But we "stop" the revolving door.
 
The worst thing about the injuries to Mallett and Savage is that it's denied us the opportunity to see if either of these guys might have what it takes to become a viable starting QB for us. Mallet's two starts (one while injured) is too small a sample size, and the circumstances of Savage's brief outing mean no sensible conclusion can be drawn.

The silver-lining on this season was supposed to be the emergence of one of the back-ups. Fate deals us a pretty crappy hand as usual, and we're literally no wiser about our QB outlook.

If I had to place a bet, I'd say Mallett is #1 next year, but I'd love to see us make a big move either in the draft or through a trade, but that just seems so un-Texans.

What an absolute turd of a situation.

Liking BO'B so far.
 
Corrosion said:
The worst part about this season is that we are no closer to solving the long term riddle of who is this teams quarterback going forward.

Fitz should have been no more than a placeholder.

Mallett had a chance to be that guy (and still does) but we didn't see enough of him to make a decision & he didn't perform well enough to put his stamp on the position when he was afforded the opportunity.


Savage was .... like a deer in headlights. Wont go so far as to say he cant be the guy but at best . he's still a year or more away from being a capable backup much less starter material.


With Fitz they won too many games to get an early pick to get a top talent and didn't develop a QB .... and Clowney was a total bust due to injury. This team is probably in worse shape now than last year this time when they had the #1 overall as the top QB prospects will likely be gone by the time they get around to drafting a player or they will have to make a significant more up in the draft to target one of those players.

Who you got under center in 2015 ?!
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Mallett is the starter going into OTA's.

Savage as the backup

Draft pick


Mallett looked good against the Browns, the injury against the Bengals affected his accuracy. Mallett never had injury issues throughout his college and the pro's. Of course he really hasn't played in his 4 yrs as a pro.

Savage- looked better than the Aggies mancrush yesterday and that was with Manziel getting a full week of practice with the 1's. Savage got very little practice time with the 1's and looked like a rookie trying to find his way. I actually was impressed with Savage's composure for a rookie that was put in a tough situation.

Draft pick- I really like Garrett Grayson. He would be my pick in the 3rd/4th rd if available.

Any draft pick will have less experience than Mallett/Savage. So your question is do you really believe in Mallett. I do, but I also want them to hedge their bets with Savage and a draft pick.
 
infantrycak said:
90% chance Mallett starts game #1 next season IMO.
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I agree completely. I think Mallett as starter, Fitz as backup, and Savage still in development. I think they will bring in 1-2 more QBs, but I doubt they draft high or pay much for a FA.

I've always thought that Mallett was O'Brien's guy, even before they got him on the roster. That trade just cemented my perception.

IlliniJen said:
I'm right here too unless he proves to be cost prohibitive.
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I think he'll be here. The Texans want him and he wants the Texans. This is a perfect situation for Mallett, too. A head coach that has history with him and has confidence in his abilities, the same system for 4+ seasons, and some quality weapons on offense.

I would be shocked if they do not make a deal with Mallett.
 
Right now, that is what I would favor as well. Let's Fitzy go and let's go with the young guns. This is assuming you can resign Mallett at a reasonable rate.

There was too little sample size to know if he can be the long term answer. One very good outing (not great but very good) and one crappy outing with an injury. Way too small a sample size but we know he has the tools. My biggest question is accuracy. If he can just be decent on accuracy, I think he's the guy for the time being.

And Savage looked good to me given the nature of being thrown to the wolves. The basic issues with ball control, hand-offs etc will come with first team reps. I'm not even slightly worried about that. And he showed a gun. It would be nice if our #1 and our #2 actually had cannons instead of toy water guns for a change.

Then you draft another guy with upside. And that's it.
 
Like a lot of other people have said, I re-sign Mallett to a deal, if possible (and there's not much reason to believe it wouldn't be). Then I go into Training Camp/OTAs with Mallett as my #1, Fitzy as my #2, and Savage as the developmental guy along with some mid-to-late round flyer.

Then I let them duke it out and let the best man win.

I'm not expecting to see enough from Thad or Keenum to make me want to keep them around, but if I do, great.
 
who knows they could go two routes

stick with the guys u got


or Turn all your chips in and Move up and draft your QB of the future in the first round

or get your QB of the future and swap out the #2 and #3 qb

there prob going to cut Fitz and keep Mallett and Draft a rookie QB

so Mallet will be the vet stop gap QB and the rookie will learn behind him

savage will have to play for his job in TC
 
I think it should be Mallett, Savage, then whoever...

I really liked what Mallett did against Cleveland, although it's a very small sample...I'm discounting the Bengals game because of his injury.

I think we should make him #1 going into OTAs, and unless he really screws up, he should be the starter game 1 in 2015.
 
thunderkyss said:
If I had my rathers, it would be Mallett, Savage, & a rookie... in that order.
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4thd.. or however many times this version has been mentioned.

Get Mallett in for a short term deal, incentive laden for possible long term, Savage starts to play with the twos and bring in the next project.
 
Re: Who's your quarterback - 2015 v2.0


Brain Cushing..... :splits:
 
Corrosion said:
The worst part about this season is that we are no closer to solving the long term riddle of who is this teams quarterback going forward.

Fitz should have been no more than a placeholder.

Mallett had a chance to be that guy (and still does) but we didn't see enough of him to make a decision & he didn't perform well enough to put his stamp on the position when he was afforded the opportunity.


Savage was .... like a deer in headlights. Wont go so far as to say he cant be the guy but at best . he's still a year or more away from being a capable backup much less starter material.


With Fitz they won too many games to get an early pick to get a top talent and didn't develop a QB .... and Clowney was a total bust due to injury. This team is probably in worse shape now than last year this time when they had the #1 overall as the top QB prospects will likely be gone by the time they get around to drafting a player or they will have to make a significant more up in the draft to target one of those players.

Who you got under center in 2015 ?!
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Ryan Mallett with Savage as the back up
 
I'm not sure. It really depends on what the coaches have seen, and what they like from the QBs on the roster - and as fans we've got terrible sample sizes to judge them on. Savage didn't look great, but was backing up for an injury and certainly wasn't prepared for the task. Mallett was hot and cold, played with an injury and displayed only 2 games. Fitzpatrick was who we thought he was and really was the only one to have a fair shake at the stick.

With the above in mind, my guess would be that OB liked Mallet and Savage enough to persevere with them. Mallett should be re-signable on a short term contract to give him a chance to kick-start his NFL career (I can't see anyone else bidding high on his potential alone). So Week One in 2015 we go:

1.) Mallett
2.) Hoyer/Anderson/high end NFL backup who can offer a legitimate QB competition in camp.
3.) Savage

And regarding the backup role, I don't necessarily put Fitzpatrick above/below those two guys - I just think than the coaching staff were done with him, and won't use the second year on him if they think they can cheaply find someone with more upside, along with a little bit of experience.
 
Mallet is scheduled for surgery. I goggled last night and found no recent news that this has been performed. Anyone have an update?

After his surgery, it'll be 6 months before he's cleared for unrestricted activity - maybe around July. According to doc, the chances are good that he can return to 100%, but this may take 6 additional months. With the intense training available to pro athletes, maybe this can be cut to 3 months. This is cutting it close to anticipate him being the starter, game one.
 
Number19 said:
Mallet is scheduled for surgery. I goggled last night and found no recent news that this has been performed. Anyone have an update?

After his surgery, it'll be 6 months before he's cleared for unrestricted activity - maybe around July. According to doc, the chances are good that he can return to 100%, but this may take 6 additional months. With the intense training available to pro athletes, maybe this can be cut to 3 months. This is cutting it close to anticipate him being the starter, game one.
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Texans app flashed a message that fitz had surgery and savage is out against Baltimore..that is all it said
 
EllisUnit said:
I seriously thinks OB goes with Mallet to start the season assuming he is 100% healthy.
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Yes. If he's 100%. But this will take 9 - 12 months, post surgery. I'm anticipating he won't be fully back, so the question is, do you still start him?
 
Number19 said:
Yes. If he's 100%. But this will take 9 - 12 months, post surgery. I'm anticipating he won't be fully back, so the question is, do you still start him?
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If he is not i would start Fitz until Mallet is ready.

But he should be ready, that's why they make HGH ;)
 
I'm good with Mallett (assuming 100% healthy)/Savage and a draft pick.

I think some of y'all are being too hard on Savage. I thought he really improved as the game went on. Needs to clean up his footwork on hand offs and get more in synch with is WR's. I see him challenging Mallett for the starter position.

Mallett's injury might make it easier for the Texans to sign him and scare other teams off.
 
We shall see who the Browns or Redskins don't keep? Brian Hoyer or Johnny Manziel? Can they afford to keep both? Robert Griffin III, Kirk Cousins and dare I even say, Colt McCoy? Unless you can assure me that Ryan Mallett will be 100 % healthy. I think a healthy Ryan Mallett could be better than any of the above. A guy like Brian Hoyer, however, could really thrive playing for Bill O'Brien.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
We shall see who the Browns or Redskins don't keep? Brian Hoyer or Johnny Manziel? Can they afford to keep both? Robert Griffin III, Kirk Cousins and dare I even say, Colt McCoy? Unless you can assure me that Ryan Mallett will be 100 % healthy. I think a healthy Ryan Mallett could be better than any of the above. A guy like Brian Hoyer, however, could really thrive playing for Bill O'Brien.
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I would avoid every single player you mentioned. Not a fan of any of them. :tiphat:
 
I bet Kubiak is laughing his ass off right now with that been there, done that look.
 
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