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Who Should we Get in the Draft?

some good posts in this thread....

anyway first off, let me say im no college football expert myself but am interested in draft prospects and look around alot of draft sites....

now as far as the draft goes-
i think we'll be picking around #8-10 and im not bothered who we pick once it is out of these- peterson, gaithers,brown, thomas, adams, branch, okam, hall, hughes, nelson, landry

obviously every other day 1 pick will depend on who we pick in the first but id like to draft a C/G and an olb to replace wong/orr.. day 2- more o-line and crosby or another quality K and P instead of a mid-round qb... maybe a burner wr also but preferably a wr who fell due to a 'lack of speed'-

i say keep carr for 1 more year behind the improved o-line and if he succeeds great, if not get a franchise guy to replace him...rd 1 qbs are looking good right now

FA- as much as id love it, clements isnt going to happen imo but sands would be a good dt imo
 
I agree with alot of you guys, very informative & thoughtful posts, no harm in dreaming about future Texans. Free agnecy does transpire before the draft so look for a big time aquisition, but maybe a QB (Plummer anyone?) if Carr cannot win a couple of these last four games. Clements would be awesome if the Texans can sign him, but if they can't CB Darrelle Revis could wind up being the #1 pick for the Texans. Then there is always the possiblity of a trade, but lets just focus on the draft. I'm already getting tired of who goes where & what draft pick so I'm going to compile a short list of players who may or may not be available for each known draft pick thru round 3.

1st rd. -

Joe Thomas, LT Wisconsin 6-7 310
Gaines Adams, DE Clemson 6-5 260
Paul Posluszny, OLB Penn State 6-2 230
Darrelle Revis (jr) CB Pitt 6-0 190
Reggie Nelson(jr) FS Florida 6-0 195
LaRon Landry, FS LSU 6-2 205

2nd rd. -

Amobi Okoye, DT Loisville 6-2 317
Michael Bush, RB Louisville 6-1 250
Bruce Davis (jr) DE/OLB UCLA 6-3 242
Ryan Smith (jr) CB Florida 5-10 168
Dan Connor (jr) OLB Penn State 6-3 228
Brandon Mebane DT California 6-2 305

3rd rd. -

Kevin Kolb, QB Houston 6-2 228
Joe Staley, LT Central Michigan 6-5 300
Dwayne Wright, RB Fresno State 6-0 222
Kyle Young, C Fresno State 6-4 320
Fred Bennet, CB South Carolina 6-2 190
John Wendling, FS Wyoming 6-1 222
 
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This is a picture of Joe Thomas last season. The caption read that he suffered a serious knee injury. What is the status with the knee?
 
gwallaia said:
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This is a picture of Joe Thomas last season. The caption read that he suffered a serious knee injury. What is the status with the knee?
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Looks pretty good to me.

He just won the Outland Trophy as the best interior lineman in college football.
 
gwallaia said:
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This is a picture of Joe Thomas last season. The caption read that he suffered a serious knee injury. What is the status with the knee?
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His satus is he is the studliest o-lineman to come down the pike since Bruce Mathews. He'll be off the board by the third pick. We can't lose enough to get him.
 
kastofsna said:
guys, don't go after a free agent CB. they get overpaid more than any other position in the league in free agency. it's a joke.
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Did you see who we had out there after Petie , (Faggins) went down ? I think they gotta bite the bullet on a top flight CB. Whether it's the Draft or FA...they gotta have at least one in the off season.
 
threetoedpete said:
Did you see who we had out there after Petie , (Faggins) went down ? I think they gotta bite the bullet on a top flight CB. Whether it's the Draft or FA...they gotta have at least one in the off season.
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I suspect that we will make a seriouse run at both Clements and Samuals and probably snag one of them. Young and talented. That should help DRob. He did a lot better when Glenn was on the otherside. Petey is a heck of a nickle back IMO, but just bairly average as a starting corner.
 
edo783 said:
I suspect that we will make a seriouse run at both Clements and Samuals and probably snag one of them. Young and talented. That should help DRob. He did a lot better when Glenn was on the otherside. Petey is a heck of a nickle back IMO, but just bairly average as a starting corner.
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Agreed. I'm also thinking...CC goes to SS...Glenn Earl....c ya.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
I think it is the other way around. Brown is cut loose or regulated to back up duties. Glenn is the better player. Glenn was the #2 S prospect behind the infamous ST.
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Stong saftey's don't miss one on one tackles in the hole unabaited. This one did today. Bet you a coke YTF.

Saw in the '02 draft Faggins was a 6th pick. Again, he plays hard and he is a good guy. Just not a great cover corner. Henry almost broke his ankles on the TD run today. He just doesn't have the speed to recover from a false read or mistake.
 
threetoedpete said:
Stong saftey's don't miss one on one tackles in the hole unabaited. This one did today. Bet you a coke YTF.

Saw in the '02 draft Faggins was a 6th pick. Again, he plays hard and he is a good guy. Just not a great cover corner. Henry almost broke his ankles on the TD run today. He just doesn't have the speed to recover from a false read or mistake.
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I have never liked Faggins in general, but could live with him as a nickle. I will take that bet pete about Earl over Brown. I prefer red gatorade though, I don't drink cokes.
 
Free Agency Options- Get Briggs (SLB) and Steinbach(G), Sands(DT) or Redding (DT) a couple of them would really help.

1.Revis or Hall at CB perhaps Branch (DT) if he declares
2.Eric Weddle or Wendling (their ranking is going to change between now and the draft obviously) maybe Joe Staley if Spencer doesn't look good.
3.Kolb QB (I don't know if Houston is patient enough for Carr, Groom him for a year, with Kubiak should start off on the right track.)
4.Kalil or Datish at C (obviously a weakspot)
5.Corning (RB) or BPA
6.most athletic DT/OL from small school or BPA
7.most athletic DT/OL from small school or BPA

We have to get our O-line/D-line consistant somehow, FA's seem to be the fastest way to do that. We have to spend money to get the good players, which we really really need, we have NO DEPTH as most of you know. Faggins moved to nickel back will really help as well as a FS not named CC Brown. Kolb is there to groom for QB. Center is a big weakness for us as well, Corning put good numbers up against decent teams, but the combine will influence where he goes. DT/OL seem to have the biggest % of being pros in the later rounds and it happens to be need positions.
 
CoastalTexan said:
Free Agency Options- Get Briggs (SLB) and Steinbach(G), Sands(DT) or Redding (DT) a couple of them would really help.

1.Revis or Hall at CB perhaps Branch (DT) if he declares
2.Eric Weddle or Wendling (their ranking is going to change between now and the draft obviously) maybe Joe Staley if Spencer doesn't look good.
3.Kolb QB (I don't know if Houston is patient enough for Carr, Groom him for a year, with Kubiak should start off on the right track.)
4.Kalil or Datish at C (obviously a weakspot)
5.Corning (RB) or BPA
6.most athletic DT/OL from small school or BPA
7.most athletic DT/OL from small school or BPA

We have to get our O-line/D-line consistant somehow, FA's seem to be the fastest way to do that. We have to spend money to get the good players, which we really really need, we have NO DEPTH as most of you know. Faggins moved to nickel back will really help as well as a FS not named CC Brown. Kolb is there to groom for QB. Center is a big weakness for us as well, Corning put good numbers up against decent teams, but the combine will influence where he goes. DT/OL seem to have the biggest % of being pros in the later rounds and it happens to be need positions.
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Exactly which o-line, Dline guys are you talking about ? Weary & Pitts. Are you saying you consider Weary and Pitts "all pro" lineman ? Charles Hill ? Was Charles Hill an outstanding d'lineman in YHO ?Travis Johnson ? Inquiring minds want to know.
I mean exactly which day two line guys are we talking about here ?

Keep scraping the bottom of the tolliet bowl guess what you end up with in your hands. You and TC may want to keep scratching there, but after five years I'm about ready to give it a break and try something completly diferent.

Not just you grass hopper. The NFL fairy just didn't happen to fly on our shoulder this season and take a big dump. We earned this season. We earned it by drafting the skill guys and letting the big uglies go some where's else. We earned it my missing on so many quick fix free agent lineman and second tiered prospects who we're still paying for. Our Front office made this mess by doing exactly, preciecly as you and a lot of others on this Message board are advocating. It doesn't fricken work. Won't work. And has never worked. You build a team from the inside out. Period.
You bite the bullet when the other clubs are taking the skilled guys and build your two lines. And untill this team does that build the two lines and get rid of the deadwood...we're going to keep right on sucking.
 
threetoedpete said:
Exactly which o-line, Dline guys are you talking about ? Weary & Pitts. Are you saying you consider Weary and Pitts "all pro" lineman ? Charles Hill ? Was Charles Hill an outstanding d'lineman in YHO ?Travis Johnson ? Inquiring minds want to know.
I mean exactly which day two line guys are we talking about here ?

Keep scraping the bottom of the tolliet bowl guess what you end up with in your hands. You and TC may want to keep scratching there, but after five years I'm about ready to give it a break and try something completly diferent.

Not just you grass hopper. The NFL fairy just didn't happen to fly on our shoulder this season and take a big dump. We earned this season. We earned it by drafting the skill guys and letting the big uglies go some where's else. We earned it my missing on so many quick fix free agent lineman and second tiered prospects who we're still paying for. Our Front office made this mess by doing exactly, preciecly as you and a lot of others on this Message board are advocating. It doesn't fricken work. Won't work. And has never worked. You build a team from the inside out. Period.
You bite the bullet when the other clubs are taking the skilled guys and build your two lines. And untill this team does that build the two lines and get rid of the deadwood...we're going to keep right on sucking.
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"Pro" as in professional football, as in not washing out in the 1st or 2nd year. As in contributing to the team as a backup or starter in the future. You list high picks and they suck, some just as much as our former lower picks. You do notice I have ALAN BRANCH and JOE STALEY listed in the 1st two rounds, a CENTER in ROUND 4. As well as ERIC STEINBECK, SANDS and REDDING listed as FA options. DID YOU READ MY POST? I think not, if you are drinking it's understandable, if not then you need to read the entire post and then comment, not read what you want to read and then proceed to insult my me. I have a feeling you are quite drunk though so I will not go on.
 
CoastalTexan said:
"Pro" as in professional football, as in not washing out in the 1st or 2nd year. As in contributing to the team as a backup or starter in the future. You list high picks and they suck, some just as much as our former lower picks. You do notice I have ALAN BRANCH and JOE STALEY listed in the 1st two rounds, a CENTER in ROUND 4. As well as ERIC STEINBECK, SANDS and REDDING listed as FA options. DID YOU READ MY POST? I think not, if you are drinking it's understandable, if not then you need to read the entire post and then comment, not read what you want to read and then proceed to insult my me. I have a feeling you are quite drunk though so I will not go on.
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All I know hot shot you put us into '07 carring the same o-line group with two crap shoot guys late in your draft. I didn't need to read more than that. What do you expect to cull out of the final two rounds ? Pace & Allen Faneca ? Good Grief. Seth Wand II doesn't do it for me. Been there done that. Inuendo and insluts have marked you for what you are...stupid. I guess your 6th & 7th could be taught to mix up the gator aide. 267 sacks and counting.
 
Maybe we should draft a Center or Guard with our first pick then? You do see I have Steinbach a GUARD in free agency? And perhaps the most athletic lineman in the draft in the second. We have 3 starters out right now. Spencer, starting left tackle is out, starting center is out, and starting right tackle is out. The line you see now is not the one we had at the start of the season.

You do know Denver has a habit of getting O-lineman late in the draft I assume, we did hire half of Denver's coaching staff it seems.

Let me go over this again... There are only 5 spots on the O-Line, in my post which you love so much the texans are getting a free agent who should start over weary or pitts, a LT in the 2nd and a Center in the 4th, Centers arn't normally drafted high. That's 3 new O-lineman before we get to the 6th/7th round picks.

Leave the namecalling to the others, not characteristic for a 51 year old retired guy.
 
GO with Daymeon the #1 CB prospect. Who ever we played oppisite D rob has been burnt badly all year long. 2 83yd bombs against buffalo? TO catching it in double coverage like he was wide open. We need a top tier #2 corner. We will never win this division let alone compete without a stronger secondary.
 
outofhnd said:
GO with Daymeon the #1 CB prospect. Who ever we played oppisite D rob has been burnt badly all year long. 2 83yd bombs against buffalo? TO catching it in double coverage like he was wide open. We need a top tier #2 corner. We will never win this division let alone compete without a stronger secondary.
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Hughes isn't the most athleticly gifted CB in the draft. Cason or Revis would be better at what you suggested. Or Nelson/Landry.
 
Spencer's health is going to play a major role in this years draft. If we feel that he will make it back, I see us going defense 1st and maybe 2nd, then RB,C, or maybe QB in rounds 3 and 4. If we feel he won't make it back, then OT becomes a possiblity in rounds 1 or 2.
 
There two ways of drafting for the Texans .

1 . The first Bob needs excitement in the stands ... 1st Peterson / 2nd Smith or Kolb .

2. If Joe Thomas is a better prospect than DBrick you take him . If not then I guess you finish building your defense .


I vote for choice # 1 .
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
There two ways of drafting for the Texans .

1 . The first Bob needs excitement in the stands ... 1st Peterson / 2nd Smith or Kolb .

2. If Joe Thomas is a better prospect than DBrick you take him . If not then I guess you finish building your defense .


I vote for choice # 1 .
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both of those are sceneros I could live with :)

however there are more than two ways the Texans could go in the draft, the combinations would be in the thousands. there could be a trade up if they want a franchise LT in Thomas or they could trade down & take Landry plus extra 2nd or they could just stand pat & take their highest rated player (whoever that might be) with their own pick. then Kubiak & Smith will sit down after the season & reveiw everything, including David Carr & who knows what will be Spencers health prognosis (I've heard here on this board he is already running, so thats one positive) or what free agency turns up.

one thing for sure is that this offseason is going to be a busy one & the Texans will be better in the future for it :stirpot:
 
Your right ... we don't even know what Ric Smith is thinking . He may be a genius ... I will not even think of the other option .

Right now it depends on where they draft .
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
There two ways of drafting for the Texans .

1 . The first Bob needs excitement in the stands ... 1st Peterson / 2nd Smith or Kolb .

2. If Joe Thomas is a better prospect than DBrick you take him . If not then I guess you finish building your defense .


I vote for choice # 1 .
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I partially agree with your #1 choice but I don't want a QB in the first.

My #2 would be to trade the pick so we can get more picks

Then I like you 2 as my #3.
 
houston will take a hard look at jamarcus russell. i say he winds up projecting right around where houston picks.
 
I think Troy Smith will fall like Drew Brees because he's short and he's had a little trouble in the past .

I'm not worried about height so much as long as he has some fire .
 
I'm hoping for Adrian Peterson (long shot maybe). I've personally liked him more than Reggie. He runs ANGRY.
 
06 prognosis for 07 draft...

1. Kubiak will stick w/ Carr & Sage for at least one more year.
2. Weary could be moving to C.
3. Winston could be moving to G.
4. Don't expect much in FA, Texans will have to over pay to get players to Houston.
5. Continue last years commitment to building the Defense. S, LB or CB RD 1.
6. If DD is finished maybe a RB RD 2 or S, LB.
7. Depending on Wiegert and Spencers rehab, OT RD 3.
 
I can't fathom Carr being here unless he looks like the second coming of Unitas these last three weeks . It would be a PR nightmare and Bob's been there before .
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
I can't fathom Carr being here unless he looks like the second coming of Unitas these last three weeks . It would be a PR nightmare and Bob's been there before .
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I think Bob will be patient with his rookie coach for another year. They have doubled their wins from a year ago. so we will see...:shades:
 
dtran04 said:
I'm hoping for Adrian Peterson (long shot maybe). I've personally liked him more than Reggie. He runs ANGRY.
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agree, peterson is much better than bush. peterson is a true rb and gets the tough yard, bush needs open space. we need a rb to hit the hole hard. if we draft in the top 5 it is very possible we get him.
 
Janus3 said:
sorry dude he is. schaub is better than any qb in this draft and the last draft.
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Not that I am advocating drafting a QB in RD 1 but if we were going to do that I would be willing to give up a 1&3 for Schaub vs a 1 for anyone in this years draft. You would be getting quality as good if not better than Romo.

Oh and all can be sure ATL will offer Schaub the highest tender in case he does sign with some one else so they will be sure to get a 1 & 3. Why would they take anything less. In reality they would like to keep him as their backup to Vick.
 
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