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Who Should we Get in the Draft?

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was385

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I think Jake Long would be a perfect fit in the first round. He is a 320 lb tackle and probably the best in the country out of Michigan. We could move one of like Winston, Long, etc. into guard. We need a lineman and try and get a FS in the second round. Who do you guys think we should take
 
Lang won't go in the first round and is probably a 3rd round prospect at this point. There are several LT's rated higher than he is, most notably Joe Thomas (Wisconsin) and Levi Brown (Penn St.)
 
was385 said:
I think Jake Long would be a perfect fit in the first round. He is a 320 lb tackle and probably the best in the country out of Michigan.
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Most tackles are > 300 lbs.
And there are 49 other states, lets not limit our search for tackles to 1 state.
 
1.) Outside LB - Obviously.
2.) Defensive Lineman - Payne is done. TJ is probably done with this organization and probably earns recognition as its biggest bust.
3.) Offensive Tackle - Depending on how Winston performs and Spencer's progress.
4.) Safety - I can't tell if our current safeties are any good. They don't make many plays, but they aren't as bad as Matt Stevens.
4.) RB - Lundy doesn't look like the answer and Domanick is probably done. Hoping for Gado to step up and play like he did last year.
5.) QB - Patience is starting to run thin with Carr and Rosenfels isn't a legitimate predecesor.
6.) WR - Need to find a young #2 if Mathis doesn't pan out. Walter is probably a career #3 and Moulds will only be around a few years.
 
like i've been sayin Daymeion Hughes is our guy, look for him tonight against USC, hes gonna have a field day going against Jarrett and Smith
 
I think it would be funny if we drafted Gaines Adams. That would make 3 defensive linemen drafted in the 1st round in three consecutive drafts. I wouldn't be that opposed to it though. Gaines, Mario, Weaver (moving to DT) and maybe TJ would probably make for a good D-line. That said, we need a LB and secondary help even more. I don't know who the top prospects are at those positions, but whoever they are, they can help us.
 
Could you imagine if we pick up Paul Poz. from Penn state as our weakside linebacker. Him with Demeco would tear this league up for the next 10-12 years. I can only imagine
 
OLB,DT,DB,OL. I think our weakest position is OLB we need someone can work with DeMeco. DT is banged up. DB we need onemore really good DB from draft or FA. OL we can't get enough of them. Especially C,G. Flanagan is getting old and perhaps a few more years left in him. And Kicker or Punter anyone? A recent performance of these two made me a bit nervous.
 
if we can get kevin kolb in the 2nd day i would say why not, Kubiak would probably have a good time teachin him, or if troy smith drops to the 2nd round i would take him to

but daymeion hughes or LaRon Landry would be my dream
 
Paul P. from Penn State or Laron Landry

We need a playmaker safety. "Can't Cover" Brown makes me sick.
 
SLO Texan said:
Dude, what are you smokin? There is no way Troy Smith drops to the second round. There's only like a 1 and 32 chance of THAT happening.:tease:
But you would have to be a tard not to take him if he did.

I would like to see us pick up an OLB,FS,and OL on the first day. On the second day we should go OL ,DL, K, WR/RB.

I trust Kubes to make the best decisions for this team.I think he and R.Smith will be bringing alot of talent into this franchise in the future. If they do half as good as they did this season we will be in real good shape in 07 and 08! GO NEW TEXANS!!!:yahoo:
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thats why i said IF he did, we better take him
 
IMO we are seriously shallow in our CB's and safeties. I wouldn't mind picking up Griffen from Texas to allow Dunta a little more play making time. When we had Aaron Glen, Dunta was the weak side DB and make some hella plays and got what 6 picks his first year. Lets free him up again and put a heavy hitter in our defensive back field.
 
the big OT from Michigan, Jake Long was impressive today. excellent pass protection and paving lanes for Hart.

Leon Hall got burned a couple times by Ginn but who doesnt, he did make a nice shoe string tackle once, I would be ok if the Texans drafted him. CB rankings usually change after the combine anyway.


LeRon Landry had another solid game (7 tackles, 5 assisted) he should be a top 15 pick (Texans could be in the 11-15 range if they show they can beat the Bills tomorrow who are sitting right now at #11).
 
I didnt come away impressed with Jake Long, I think another year could help him greatly. He did good running the ball, but the pocket collapsed several times on Henne and Long was part of it afew times. With that said, I say Landry. He's been solid all year and thats exactly what we need - someone who can be consistent and counted on. BTW, is it just me or is Polz not the same he was last year? He's still a good LB, but it seems like he isnt as good and is riding last years hype . . .
 
LORK 88 said:
I didnt come away impressed with Jake Long, I think another year could help him greatly. He did good running the ball, but the pocket collapsed several times on Henne and Long was part of it afew times. With that said, I say Landry. He's been solid all year and thats exactly what we need - someone who can be consistent and counted on. BTW, is it just me or is Polz not the same he was last year? He's still a good LB, but it seems like he isnt as good and is riding last years hype . . .
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Pusluszny is coming off a knee injury,he's gonna be just fine. I would take him if I could, or another solid LB in rd 2, I think we need to look at DB's in rd.1.
 
LORK 88 said:
I didnt come away impressed with Jake Long . . .
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I thoughtg Long played a good game considering the guy playing across from him was "Off the Hook !!" Vernon Gholston (So. from Detroit) had a GREAT game...He looked like possible OL material, he had a great bull rush.
6'4" , 260 lbs. That kid is someone to keeep an eye on. :twocents:
 
TexanSam said:
I think it would be funny if we drafted Gaines Adams. That would make 3 defensive linemen drafted in the 1st round in three consecutive drafts. I wouldn't be that opposed to it though. Gaines, Mario, Weaver (moving to DT) and maybe TJ would probably make for a good D-line. That said, we need a LB and secondary help even more. I don't know who the top prospects are at those positions, but whoever they are, they can help us.
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I'm hoping that we trade TJ for either a solid, experienced DT or a mid-high draft pick this year. He's just not very good. I don't see us drafting D-Line high enough to get Adams though. There are still so many holes in our team and between Payne, Maddox, Mario, Weaver, Peek and Babin I think we've got enough quality to put together a decent, versatile D-Line.

I think we can go one of two ways:
1) Solidify the O-Line - draft high and multiple times. I'd like to see us lose several of our current players in the offseason and start someone solid at Center. Maybe that's Hodgdon, who knows, but it's not Flanagan and I prefer McKinney as a plug-in backup than a starter.
2) Work on the rest of the Defense - draft a Landry-type safety in the first round (hence move CC Brown to SS with Earl where he belongs), a quick, aggresive OLB (Posluszny would be great - especially opposite a FA like Briggs) and THEN move to OL for depth and a combination of DT, WR, K to round things off. That whole scenario depends on us picking up an Asante Samuel calibre CB in FA, though, because we need that spot filled.

I think which way we go depends on how highly the coaching staff rate our young OLs. If they think Hodgdon can start and Spencer comes back at 100% then we could start Spencer, Pitts, Hodgdon, Weary, Winston, left to right. Personally, I think the quality of our O-Line next season depends more on whether we can keep Mike Sherman than it does on the draft. :twocents:
 
First Round: IMPACT PLAYER, whoever it may be

2nd Round: best OLB or Safety. Be nice to add someone with Demeco and get a Safety with some speed or better reading skills than we have now.

3rd Round: the other choice in the 2nd. If you took an OLB take a Safety and vice versa here

4th Round: Defensive Tackle

5th-7th: Best player available
 
LORK 88 said:
I didnt come away impressed with Jake Long, I think another year could help him greatly. He did good running the ball, but the pocket collapsed several times on Henne and Long was part of it afew times.
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you have to be kidding :joker: Long was dominant, he did not allow even one of Hennes four sacks it came from the RT & Center positions. he was wiping out the left side continuesly with Hart running behind him for over 140 yards w/6.2 avg., even Manningham avg. 6.5 yards. In pass blocking he whipped up on the DE/DT (usually on the ground) giving Henne more than enough time to find deep routes (which he over threw several times). In essence the #1 team in College was coming with everything they had (knowing Henne was going to pass, down 14 @ half) yet he sealed off the left side completely. Now I'm not sold just yet on Jake Long being a franchise tackle in the NFL just yet, but to say that performance was anything but impressive is inacurate at best.

On another note after watching the Texans get burned deep, twice early today against Evans I'm rethinking the value of drafting the best CB available. At this point, however there is no conclusive evidence who that will be, it would be nice to find someone strong enough to lock up in coverage & run support as well have 4.3 speed :superman:
 
Avenged Sevenfold Texan said:
CB,Safety,CB,Safety

Keep Dunta and get rid of the rest.
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after todays loss...damn:hairpull:

we need to dump Faggins, and draft a FS first round...we can keep Brown but only as a 2nd string FS

and while we at it, we may want to look into a new FB, 2 game losing fumbles is too much for a team that can't afford to have any...i'm sure we can find a good pass/run blocking FB who knows how to catch, oh and HOLD ONTO THE GOD DAMN FOOTBALL
 
ChrisG said:
after todays loss...damn:hairpull:

we need to dump Faggins, and draft a FS first round...we can keep Brown but only as a 2nd string FS

and while we at it, we may want to look into a new FB, 2 game losing fumbles is too much for a team that can't afford to have any...i'm sure we can find a good pass/run blocking FB who knows how to catch, oh and HOLD ONTO THE GOD DAMN FOOTBALL
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But just last week this board was convinced that Faggins was THE difference-maker on our D. I have never been too high on him. I think he is no better than a nickel corner.

I think those 2 fumbles by Cook are the first 2 of his career. I have never heard of a team cutting a guy because they think that 2 fumbles is too much for 1 season.
 
bah007 said:
But just last week this board was convinced that Faggins was THE difference-maker on our D. I have never been too high on him. I think he is no better than a nickel corner.

I think those 2 fumbles by Cook are the first 2 of his career. I have never heard of a team cutting a guy because they think that 2 fumbles is too much for 1 season.
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Faggins has never sat well with me, i think he is okay for our team but not as our RCB, he would make a good #3 or 4 CB, but we need someone a little better to play off Robinson...and in terms of Cook, i'm not sure on cutting him but the texans should keep thier eyes open, especially if this problem persists. IK its only 2 fumbles, but like todays he was inside the 10, in game where we were only favored by 2.5 pts.
 
bah007 said:
But just last week this board was convinced that Faggins was THE difference-maker on our D. I have never been too high on him. I think he is no better than a nickel corner.
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I have been the most anti-faggins person on this board for quite a while. He is trash and showed it today. He came back, got a pure luck interception, and acts like he's hot ******. He is horrible, and I've been preaching this since last year at least. Why would nobody believe me then?
 
Faggins is a pretty good nickle back, but only a marginal CB. Cook fumbles have come at extremily inopertune times. I don't think he has much of a history of fumbles and he blocks well.
 
edo783 said:
Faggins is a pretty good nickle back, but only a marginal CB. Cook fumbles have come at extremily inopertune times. I don't think he has much of a history of fumbles and he blocks well.
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he seems like a solid blocker...just hold onto the ball in the redzone...but it was only 1 mistake, a minor one within a game of massive mistakes called the texans secondary
 
edo783 said:
Faggins is a pretty good nickle back, but only a marginal CB. Cook fumbles have come at extremily inopertune times. I don't think he has much of a history of fumbles and he blocks well.
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I would never use Faggins and "good" in the same sentence, but he is only slightly below average as a 4th CB in the league.
 
Round 1 Laron Landry
Round 2 Which ever LB falls
Round 3 DT or Oline
Round 4 Punter or FB
Round 5 Punter or FB

Make a huge push to sign a top FA CB.

or

Round 1 Laron Landry
Round 2 Aaron Ross
Rest of draft goes the same.

Make a huge push to sign Lance Briggs.
 
Bubbajwp said:
Round 1 Laron Landry
Round 2 Which ever LB falls
Round 3 DT or Oline
Round 4 Punter or FB
Round 5 Punter or FB

Make a huge push to sign a top FA CB.

or

Round 1 Laron Landry
Round 2 Aaron Ross
Rest of draft goes the same.

Make a huge push to sign Lance Briggs.
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I wouldnt waste a pick on a punter in the 4th round.

Sepulveda from Baylor is awesome & he isnt even projected to get drafted.
 
I don't get why everybody's hating on Faggins. Problem is he's not the best CB on our team, but he was matched up with the opposing best WR on their team. The guy is solid and can handle secondary option receivers, but our coaches need to put them in positions to succeed and putting the second best corner on the best WR is not gonna make the CB look good ever. He's not an elite talent, but he's above avg. and deserves to start and also brings intangibles to the table. On those two plays where he was burnt the question should be where were the safeties? Maybe that's what we should be focusing on.
 
What we need is help at DT and FS. Those are our two most glaring needs. If you disagree you should take a closer look at the team. T.J. was playing at an avg. level when he was starting and Payne is no spring chicken. The guys we got now are back-ups and bluntly said we'll have to take a DT in 1 of our 2 rds. even if we do sign a FA. While the popular pick would be Landry one could argue that we would be better served with an Alan Branch.
 
edo783 said:
Faggins is a pretty good nickle back, but only a marginal CB. Cook fumbles have come at extremily inopertune times. I don't think he has much of a history of fumbles and he blocks well.
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I concur. I'm not in the loop and I don't know. Faggins is what he is. With the right personel around him he'll be ok. The safties are, IMHO the problem. I can't believe Richard Smith Called a defense with Faggins on an Island with the other teams fastest guy. If he did and the Safty saw it there should of been a time out called. My book says the over the top responciblity was CC Brown's and he got caught peeping in the back feild. The next one...that was a total team DB bust. He split the seem and we ain't got the speed to recover. Can't draft 'em all to plug all of the holes on the team. I can live with the lack of speed from Faggins. I believe the guy gives everything he's got. And you're correct he is not a front line corner. But the bottom line with him is this...the guys on that side of the ball love the guy. With out him in the line up the D totally suxed. With him...and Mario's push, they played top six defense for six weeks. And that's the bottom line. You don't break up chemistry with a team. Faggin's not going anywhere. Get use to it.

I remeber a couple of seasons ago, DD lad an egg at Reliant and everyone wanted to dump the guy. Might have to be careful...I might of been one of them. Don't remeber. I think part of the problem is Cook is not getting enough touches. If it was me, I'd maske sure he got a couple of touches every half. Even Jesus needed thrity days in the desert to warm up.
 
dat_boy_yec said:
What we need is help at DT and FS. Those are our two most glaring needs. If you disagree you should take a closer look at the team. T.J. was playing at an avg. level when he was starting and Payne is no spring chicken. The guys we got now are back-ups and bluntly said we'll have to take a DT in 1 of our 2 rds. even if we do sign a FA. While the popular pick would be Landry one could argue that we would be better served with an Alan Branch.
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I'm with ya. When you're getting fa's off the street to cover a position that's a firm signal you've got a prolem. The only disapointment I had in the TJ's injury was that he missed the opportunity to show us what he's got. If I was a conspiracy guy....I'd be looking at the grassy knoll. Payne goes down, TJ is right beside him. Hmmmmm.

As far as CC Brown is concerned, that experimnet is over for me as of today. The guy is too stupid and slow to be a front line free safty in the NFL. If they cut him monday, it woundn't be to soon for me.
 
dat_boy_yec said:
I don't get why everybody's hating on Faggins. Problem is he's not the best CB on our team, but he was matched up with the opposing best WR on their team. The guy is solid and can handle secondary option receivers, but our coaches need to put them in positions to succeed and putting the second best corner on the best WR is not gonna make the CB look good ever. He's not an elite talent, but he's above avg. and deserves to start and also brings intangibles to the table. On those two plays where he was burnt the question should be where were the safeties? Maybe that's what we should be focusing on.
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we are saying we need a S first pick, but Faggins shouldn't not be in when the Texans are going with 2 (and maybe not even when we r using 3) CBs. Most teams are going to have more talent then 1 wideout threat, take Cinn - Johnson and H....(however u spell it LOL) or even our division team Indy (Harrison and Wayne) or NO's Horn and Henderson....

so 1 good corner and a "non-elite" CB are not gonna cut it....he deserves to start now, but we should look into someone better. Faggins should be covering a #3 WR, we need a CB with speed and vision to match up against some of the top WR...i wouldn't call him above average in the slightest, he is average
 
1. QB to take over we need one badly
2. RB we a legitimate one badly
3.CB Faggins is at best to put it nicely a nickel back



i would be happy is we took any of the positions listed above beside weve gone defense in the 1st round for how many years now if im not mistaken i think we got 4 1st rounders in our defense.
 
Toan said:
You can't have elite players at every positions...

Faggins ain't that bad he can cover the short passes but have troubles with the deep balls, that where a good FS come in to help him when he get burned on a deep pass
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Tood bad thats the scouting report on all of our CBs, not just Faggins.

If McCauley or Ross drops to the 2nd we should get them. We need some burners at CB.
 
MasterC25 said:
Could you imagine if we pick up Paul Poz. from Penn state as our weakside linebacker. Him with Demeco would tear this league up for the next 10-12 years. I can only imagine
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He is a middle LB this year and played Strongside last year when he won the Butkis. So why do you project him to play the weakside in the pros?
 
the wonger need food said:
1.) Outside LB - Obviously.
2.) Defensive Lineman - Payne is done. TJ is probably done with this organization and probably earns recognition as its biggest bust.
3.) Offensive Tackle - Depending on how Winston performs and Spencer's progress.
4.) Safety - I can't tell if our current safeties are any good. They don't make many plays, but they aren't as bad as Matt Stevens.
4.) RB - Lundy doesn't look like the answer and Domanick is probably done. Hoping for Gado to step up and play like he did last year.
5.) QB - Patience is starting to run thin with Carr and Rosenfels isn't a legitimate predecesor.
6.) WR - Need to find a young #2 if Mathis doesn't pan out. Walter is probably a career #3 and Moulds will only be around a few years.
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I have great feelings that Kevin will play #2 here eventually before the end of his contract. I truely believe if the Moulds deal did not get done, Kevin is battling and winning out the #2 spot on this roster. Don't get me wrong, it is great that Moulds has come here with his talent and also his veteranism to "mould" these young WRs into the PROS they need to be successful for time to come.
 
This Buffalo game has only reaffirmed my sentiments.

Our most glaring needs are at OL, CB, and S. We also need help at DT and OLB but not nearly as badly as the OL and DB. I am looking for a huge emphasis on these 2 areas in the draft and FA.
 
Me being a big advocate of defense wins championships.. i say that we go heavy defense on the first day..

1 - Best Cornerback or Best Safety
2 - Best Cornerback or Best Safety (whichever we didn't get in the first)
3 - Best OLB available.

Day 2 stack up..
up on OL and DL..
 
I stand by grafting Landry, Poslusney, and Brian Leonard. The young o-linemen will mature and will be serviceable at least.
 
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