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Who else thinks the Texans are going to crash and burn in 2015

First, I'm not your bro. Second, take your question & your attitude and stick them both straight up your ass.:fans:

Wow, I feel sorry for any of your siblings. You were the type who left little more than a drop of milk for Saturday morning cereal, ate all the peanut butter, used up all the hot water in your 30 minute showers (doing who knows what) and hogged the TV weren't you?
 
Wow, I feel sorry for any of your siblings. You were the type who left little more than a drop of milk for Saturday morning cereal, ate all the peanut butter, used up all the hot water in your 30 minute showers (doing who knows what) and hogged the TV weren't you?
Interesting, because if I gave a sh1t about you or what you thought, I would feel sorry for you. "Mr Messageboard Know It All"; it has to be a horrible life.
 
The Houston Texans are who we thought they were.

I know looking at the score, it looks like the Texans got abused, but in reality, watching the game, we were giving as much as we got. Through three qtrs, we had more rushing yards, passing yards, first downs, TOP... It wasn't until Hoyer came out after half time with another almost int that the defense gave up an TD. The next offensive possession was the first three & out.

All but two people on the Texans sideline were out there trying to win that game. Everybody but Bryan Hoyer & Bill O'Brien. I take that back, Hoyer was doing the best he can. So all but one person on the Texans sideline was trying to win that game.
 
Just like how the colts used to do it.

Amirite?

The Texans have won 18 games in the last two seasons.

Only four of those wins were against winning teams.

That's not how the Colts used to do it. The Colts were able to stand toe-to-toe with the best teams in the league...because they had a great QB.

I want a team that is better than one that takes low hanging fruit of beating the bad teams. I want one that it is expected to win those games and has a chance to beat the good teams every week.
 
The Texans have won 18 games in the last two seasons.

Only four of those wins were against winning teams.

That's not how the Colts used to do it. The Colts were able to stand toe-to-toe with the best teams in the league...because they had a great QB.

I want a team that is better than one that takes low hanging fruit of beating the bad teams. I want one that it is expected to win those games and has a chance to beat the good teams every week.

I agree 100%.

My post was just petty sarcasm on my part stemming from a debate in another thread.
 
I agree 100%.

My post was just petty sarcasm on my part stemming from a debate in another thread.

Oh, I know, man. :thumbup You and I see things from the same perspective much of the time.

I was just using your post to piggyback a point, because I do not see winning the AFC South this year as anything significant beyond the Superb Owl game in Indy.
 
I'm looking at the cap situation and the personnel moves and I have to ask if 2016 was really targeted as the "recovery year".

We've been in salary cap hell since 2011. Last year wasn't that bad but we really didn't have that much room to make moves. Part of me wonders if the thought was to "compete" for the first two years and get to the point that you are out of salary cap hell. Looking at the roster all of the cuts we "need to make" can be made this year. Hoyer can be cut for nothing, Wilfork's deal allows him to be cut.

We can easily get to the point that we have $50M in cap space while having the core of the defense, the OL (mostly) in tact and the ability to make some moves.

If you're BoB, do you go into last season with a couple of guys (Hoyer, Mallet) hoping that maybe you can turn one of the into something and if not you can cut them loose in the off season and look for a long term solution?

I mean the alternative is to overpay or reach for somebody and tie yourself in knots to try and go 10-6 the last couple of years.

The scary thought is that maybe BoB was just waiting for Hack to come out (I'm not a fan of that approach) or at least penciled it in on his calender.

Thoughts?

Mike
 
I'm looking at the cap situation and the personnel moves and I have to ask if 2016 was really targeted as the "recovery year".

We've been in salary cap hell since 2011. Last year wasn't that bad but we really didn't have that much room to make moves. Part of me wonders if the thought was to "compete" for the first two years and get to the point that you are out of salary cap hell. Looking at the roster all of the cuts we "need to make" can be made this year. Hoyer can be cut for nothing, Wilfork's deal allows him to be cut.

We can easily get to the point that we have $50M in cap space while having the core of the defense, the OL (mostly) in tact and the ability to make some moves.

If you're BoB, do you go into last season with a couple of guys (Hoyer, Mallet) hoping that maybe you can turn one of the into something and if not you can cut them loose in the off season and look for a long term solution?

I mean the alternative is to overpay or reach for somebody and tie yourself in knots to try and go 10-6 the last couple of years.

The scary thought is that maybe BoB was just waiting for Hack to come out (I'm not a fan of that approach) or at least penciled it in on his calender.

Thoughts?

Mike

Makes sense to me & there are a number of moves & peculiar handling of things that OB & the FO have done over these last couple of years that suggest what you're saying is somewhat of a reasonable assertion. But you'll never get any of these arm chair GM's & HC's in here to believe it....
 
Rather than a playoff team, we need to think of the 2015 Texans as the least bad AFC South team.

Record outside AFC south was 4-6 (40% win rate) which translates to a 6-10 record over a full season. That sums us up better I think.

We've got a few very good players, but we're far from being a good team.
Accountants you are not. You can't take away the division from Houston without doing to same for every other team. Go ahead and compare our 4-6 record to the other teams non division records if you like, but don't manipulate the number to make a bad case against an average team.
 
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