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Who does David Carr compare to?

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Mr. White

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I started this thread just to try to get a feel where other Texans fans think that Carr ranks compared to other NFL QBs...starters or backups.

Not based on potential, but on results....does he compare to Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, or Drew Bledsoe and Aaron Brooks?

Who is David Carr better than?
Who is David Carr worse than?
 
Powerful Dragon you have an appointment with Satan ... I'm not laughing either its a twitch .

Who is Chris Simms would be my answer if I was on Jeapordy .
 
Bubby Brister. OK, that is stretching it. Bubby had some winning seasons but hey I have to give Carr the benefit of the doubt since he is still developing.

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Game manager

a little bit better than Kyle Orton
a little worse than Brad Johnson

in other words.....average.
He won't make the shoot in the foot mistake, but won't overcome adversity to win the game....lacks killer instinct, lacks emotion

loss after loss, "its aw shucks", needs to show fire, year 5 its time to step up and lead........lead........lead

everybody talks about the lack of leadership on defense when Glen and Sharper left, who's the leader on Offense.......whos going to step up......its time to lead.....lead.....lead. He's a vet now.....lead
 
right now he's better than Brad Johnson

he's worse than a younger Brad Jonson

Matt Shaub has never been given any serious time to play, so we really can't say he's better or worse........though I really like Matt Shaub and really wouldn't mind making a trade, although with Vick's performances lately Atlanta might not be so free to let him go.
 
Better than Jake Plummer, Mike Vick, Aaron Brooks, Eli Manning, Vince Young (until VY matures), Charlie Fry, Brad Johnson, Mark Brunell(any WASH QB), and Rex Grossman (who can only throw deep), Matt Leinhert (who should light it up with those BIG WRs)

Worse than P Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers (though its nice to have L.T. as your RB), Palmer, Trent Green and Tony Romo (I gagged saying that)
 
Goldeagle said:
Better than Jake Plummer, Mike Vick, Aaron Brooks, Eli Manning, Vince Young (until VY matures), Charlie Fry, Brad Johnson, Mark Brunell(any WASH QB), and Rex Grossman (who can only throw deep), Matt Leinhert (who should light it up with those BIG WRs)

Worse than P Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers (though its nice to have L.T. as your RB), Palmer, Trent Green and Tony Romo (I gagged saying that)
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In my opinion rookies should be left off the list

Lienart in year 5 is going to be ALOT better.

Young has already step into the leadership role on that team, everybody talked about his leadership comming out and its showing in the pros

Carr's problems are decision making. He plays into the D's hands. He has two great receivers he needs to look down feild more often. No I'm not talking about the deep ball, I'm talking about a 7 yard pass when you need 5, not a 2 or 3 yard pass.

It comes down to football smarts, I'll give him another year (just because of the running game and new system) but after that and he'll be entering year 7.... six years is plenty of time to show a feel for the game.
 
You also want to keep in mind that he's a #1 pick. Fankly, I can't compare him with any other high QB draft pick. He doesn't remind me of anyone... But if I were to pick, I guess I'd say he's a better Jake Plummer.
 
I'd say after watching the Pittsburgh game...Ben Rothlisberger :) Amazing...from Super Bowl to "help me, I've fallen and I can't get up!" I'd point out alot of obvious things, but when the herd is ready to hang a guy, it's not gonna do alot of good :)
 
From what I see, Carr has three problems--lack of field vision, subpar footwork, and a refusal to pump fake. The footwork and pump fake can be cured. I'm not sure about the field vision, but I'm willing to give Kubiak a little more time to work on that.

To address the question more directly, I see Carr as similar to Steve McNair (through most of McNair's career), with the potential to become a Trent Green.
 
FirstTexansFan said:
I'd say after watching the Pittsburgh game...Ben Rothlisberger :) Amazing...from Super Bowl to "help me, I've fallen and I can't get up!" I'd point out alot of obvious things, but when the herd is ready to hang a guy, it's not gonna do alot of good :)
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Yep the funny thing about it is, doesn't matter who it is the Houston QB is, he's always drug through the sewer. All of 'em. The next one too.

The baseball guy had a nice collumn today. Took about three years though. I guess he got over the Vince crush. What's going to happen is p-burnt in reverse.
 
Carr does not throw the ball down field--is there even another QB like that in the NFL--past or present?
 
So it seems most people here agree that Carr would be a backup somewhere else.

I think this is the first David Carr thread I've ever started. It'll probably be the last.
 
It's such a team game so I really don't know how to compare QB's unless they are in the same situations and schemes.

But I'd say Carr is not better than these:

Tom Brady
Tony Romo
Peyton Manning
Carson Palmer
Drew Brees
Damon Huard
Donovan McNabb
Philip Rivers
Marc Bulger

Everyone else he can probably play the same as or better.
 
SESupergenius said:
It's such a team game so I really don't know how to compare QB's unless they are in the same situations and schemes.

But I'd say Carr is not better than these:

Tom Brady
Tony Romo
Peyton Manning
Carson Palmer
Drew Brees
Damon Huard
Donovan McNabb
Philip Rivers
Marc Bulger

Everyone else he can probably play the same as or better.
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So you're telling me that if you had to choose one QB to go into a game with, those are the only guys you'd choose over Carr ?
 
tsip said:
Carr does not throw the ball down field--is there even another QB like that in the NFL--past or present?
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The best part of DC's game is the way he sacks up and challenges the two deep zone. You have to love that about the guy. He's not afraid to throw it in there.
 
The way he plays the game reminds me of Brad Johnson; except Brad tends to win more games then he loses. Also, Brad has won a Super Bowl.

He's kind of a head case like Jeff George. Not that he's egotistical like George, but he has the physical tools to be great, but not the mental game.

He's kind of shell shocked like Tim Couch but not quite that bad.

So who does David Carr remind me of, well I guess he most reminds me of Trent Dilfer.
 
SESupergenius said:
It's such a team game so I really don't know how to compare QB's unless they are in the same situations and schemes.

But I'd say Carr is not better than these:

Tom Brady
Tony Romo
Peyton Manning
Carson Palmer
Drew Brees
Damon Huard
Donovan McNabb
Philip Rivers
Marc Bulger

Everyone else he can probably play the same as or better.
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Wow even for Carr haters he is in the top 10. Now we are getting some perspective. Good thread.
 
It should be asked, Which team do you think Carr would excel the best with?" Because he would be a totally different dude playing with the Colts or Cowboys
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
So you're telling me that if you had to choose one QB to go into a game with, those are the only guys you'd choose over Carr ?
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I might add Bret Farve, but really, he hasn't done much with very little either. Look at the defenses and players around the top people. If you get anything from my comments it should be that this is a team game and that QB position is overrated to the extent that a win is all up to him.
 
TSgt.Texan said:
What about Vince Young, Roethlinsberger & Farve?
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Vince Young - Nope, he had 1 phenominal quarter but hasn't really throw too accurately and has as many TD's as INT's. the running game and defense have attributed a lot to the teams wins.

Roethisburger - inconsistant this year and is playing pretty bad.

Farve - I might put him ahead of Carr even considering how old he is.
 
SESupergenius said:
Vince Young - Nope, he had 1 phenominal quarter but hasn't really throw too accurately and has as many TD's as INT's. the running game and defense have attributed a lot to the teams wins.

Roethisburger - inconsistant this year and is playing pretty bad.

Farve - I might put him ahead of Carr even considering how old he is.
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Lets not forget BR nearly lost his life twice this year, so I would take him over Carr.
 
All time? I would say Archie Manning - Never enough talent around them to get a fair shake.

Picking out of today's QB's based on current skills for the current Texans offense:

1. Payton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Carson Palmer
4. Drew Brees
5. Donovan McNabb
6. Marc Bulger
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Brett Farve
9. Trent Green
10. Steve McNair
11. Phillip Rivers
12. Tony Romo
13. Jake Delhome
14. Eli Manning
15. David Carr
 
John Reeves. He's like John Reeves.

If there was a USFL today David could go over there and dominate that bunch just like Reeves did in Tampa Bay with the Bandits. On this side of the fence I see no evidence that David is anything more than a journeyman QB very much in the mold of his friend Trent Dilfer.
 
I agree with the Trent Dilfer comparison. Carr has a better arm but one less ring.

Should we stay with Carr, I can only hope that our main priorities in the off-season are offensive line, defense, defense, defense, and defense.
 
Double Barrel said:
I agree with the Trent Dilfer comparison. Carr has a better arm but one less ring.

Should we stay with Carr, I can only hope that our main priorities in the off-season are offensive line, defense, defense, defense, and defense.
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I wouldn't mind it being offensive line, RB, defense, defense, defense. Who is going to run the ball? We have more backup RB's than the Chicken Ranch has whores.
 
TheOgre said:
I wouldn't mind it being offensive line, RB, defense, defense, defense. Who is going to run the ball? We have more backup RB's than the Chicken Ranch has whores.
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I can't argue with that. None of the backs we currently have seem up to the challenge of being a regular starter right now.

I think the Denver model of putting in any ol' RB has now been thoroughly tested and failed. This just in: you need a good offensive line to run the ball.
 
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