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Who does David Carr compare to?

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Better than Jake Plummer, Mike Vick, Aaron Brooks, Eli Manning, Vince Young (until VY matures), Charlie Fry, Brad Johnson, Mark Brunell(any WASH QB), and Rex Grossman (who can only throw deep), Matt Leinhert (who should light it up with those BIG WRs)
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As much as I dislike Plummer I'll have to say Carr still isn't as good as him...lol @ him being better than Vick......I'd take anyone on this over David...Carr is at the bottom of the barrel in my books....I might take him over Johnson, but there's no way in hell I'm taking Carr over Vick, Eli, VY, Grossman, or Leinhert....I've seen things from those 5 guys that David has yet to show me....I was thinking about this very question while riding home from work the other day and I have to say that Carr is honestly one of the worst I've ever seen at the position...yes he has a good arm and he's mobile, but he would be one of the last QB's in the NFL (if not the last) that I'd pick to win me one game.

Has anyone had such a terrible record?
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exactly, he has the worst winning percentage of any 5 year QB...I honestly don't see how some of you rate this guy so high.
 
Dan Pastorini with the 1-13 Oilers. Maybe he will eventually come around as Pastorini did once the talent got better and especially after we got Earl.
 
I saw this and had a chuckle.

The Chronicle ran the above photo of Texans quarterback David Carr today.

Isn't it pretty?

For some reason, it made me think of Anna Kournikova, a pretty player who really wasn't a great player.
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Goldeagle said:
Better than Jake Plummer, Mike Vick, Aaron Brooks, Eli Manning, Vince Young (until VY matures), Charlie Fry, Brad Johnson, Mark Brunell(any WASH QB), and Rex Grossman (who can only throw deep), Matt Leinhert (who should light it up with those BIG WRs)

Worse than P Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers (though its nice to have L.T. as your RB), Palmer, Trent Green and Tony Romo (I gagged saying that)
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dude that is just ignorant and blind homerism at its best. So you think Carr is in the Top10 in the NFL!!! omg that is just priceless
 
Rob Johnson,.. no pocket presence, no leadership skills, will take the sack over throwing the ball away,... decent stats on paper, but no will to win or ability to make teammates better... AHHHHHHHH
 
Carr sets NFL record
Five years of being a loser and he is still starting. I do not mean playing, but still starting. He has started every game but two. I believe in his second year, he was hurt, plus he only has been pulled out of 1 game in five years that has to be a NFL record. I have been watching pro football over 53 years and never remember seeing another QB with his winning percentage starting after five years of getting his a** kicked. Can anyone name another QB that can match Carrs losing percentage over five years and still was a starter.
 
johnboy said:
Carr sets NFL record
Five years of being a loser and he is still starting. I do not mean playing, but still starting. He has started every game but two. I believe in his second year, he was hurt, plus he only has been pulled out of 1 game in five years that has to be a NFL record. I have been watching pro football over 53 years and never remember seeing another QB with his winning percentage starting after five years of getting his a** kicked. Can anyone name another QB that can match Carrs losing percentage over five years and still was a starter.
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Manning.
 
IMO, Carr is like the Steve Young I remember when I was younger. Its just he's been sacked so many times he comes off kinda over anxious all the time which will take some time but he'll learn. :secret:

He's better than Vick:cowboy1:

A lil' bit worse than Drew Brees:dance3:
 
Superstar said:
what Anna Kournikova? She sucks at Tennis! The only reason why she is there is because she brings in viewers.

So it is true? Only people who still like him have a man crush on him.
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Like David Carr, she was better at a lower level of competition. She's a model, hopefully David will leave football to join her soon.
 
i have seen carr throw 60 yard balls in the air and hit his recievers in perfect stride...i have also seen the same guy try to force the ball threw DBs to get to recievers.

Carr is better than Eli Manning, Matt Hasslebeck, Phillip Rivers, etc.
Carr is worse than Brady, Manning, etc.

i can go on and on right now...but Carr has a better chance at getting a superbowl ring being better than average than Manning(Peyton) ever will being great. I would compare Manning to Marino but Peyton has to make it to the Superbowl first.
 
skillz24 said:
i have seen carr throw 60 yard balls in the air and hit his recievers in perfect stride...i have also seen the same guy try to force the ball threw DBs to get to recievers.

Carr is better than Eli Manning, Matt Hasslebeck, Phillip Rivers, etc.
Carr is worse than Brady, Manning, etc.

i can go on and on right now...but Carr has a better chance at getting a superbowl ring being better than average than Manning(Peyton) ever will being great. I would compare Manning to Marino but Peyton has to make it to the Superbowl first.
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Carr isn't better than any of the quarterbacks you have listed...nice try
 
DeclanJr said:
Carr isn't better than any of the quarterbacks you have listed...nice try
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why is it a nice try? look at the surrounding cast around all of those quarterbacks espeacially their offensive lines. Eli has Tiki Barber and Brandon Jacobs, Phillip Rivers has LT and Micheal Turner, Matt Hasslebeck has Shaun Alexander...and we all saw how great he was without Shaun, we have had Jonathon Wells, Dominick Davis, Wali Lundy, Vernand Morency, Ron Dayne and Sam Gado. There is no comparision why i think carr is better...he wins without a runningback, get rid of their backs and none of them will have any chance of winning a football game even with good offensive lines.

Manning, Brady, and Favre are few of the talented individuals in the league who find ways to win without a good running cast. so why isn't carr better?
he fights his heart out every week and is consistant with his play no matter who is on the field with him.

I see Carr now and I see the potential he has, with a couple more weapons surrounding him on offense and alot of defensive help in the secondary we will be conteding with Indy and Jacksonville for our division and soon playoffs.
 
Superstar said:
what Anna Kournikova? She sucks at Tennis! The only reason why she is there is because she brings in viewers.

So it is true? Only people who still like him have a man crush on him.
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I have to step in on this and defend Anna . What if she had never played tennis . What if she just became another mail order bride .... wait I'll be back .
 
DeclanJr said:
Carr isn't better than any of the quarterbacks you have listed...nice try
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You think that Eli Manning is a better QB than Carr?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that you either:
A.) grew up or lived in Mississippi (where Eli played), Tennessee (where Peyton & Archie played), or New Orleans (where Archie played).
OR
B.) watch too much Eli hype on ESPN.
 
Battle Red Bull said:
I started this thread just to try to get a feel where other Texans fans think that Carr ranks compared to other NFL QBs...starters or backups.

Not based on potential, but on results....does he compare to Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, or Drew Bledsoe and Aaron Brooks?

Who is David Carr better than?
Who is David Carr worse than?
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No, you started this thread because it is inflammatory.

The fact is that he ranks in about the middle of the league's starters, which isn't bad given that he spent 4 years under a poor defensively-oriented head coach, with no QB coach and no veteran back up. His QB rating has improved this year as the running game has improved. Hopefully he will continue to be the starter.
 
QB75 said:
No, you started this thread because it is inflammatory.
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No, I'm pretty sure that I started the thread for the reasons that I gave in the post you quoted. If you think it's inflammatory, then that's your problem.

Unlike some, I don't really have an agenda on this board. The only agenda that I have is for the Texans to win more games.

I don't care who starts or who doesn't to make that happen.
 
Battle Red Bull said:
No, I'm pretty sure that I started the thread for the reasons that I gave in the post you quoted. If you think it's inflammatory, then that's your problem.

Unlike some, I don't really have an agenda on this board. The only agenda that I have is for the Texans to win more games.

I don't care who starts or who doesn't to make that happen.
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QFT
 
skillz24 said:
why is it a nice try? look at the surrounding cast around all of those quarterbacks espeacially their offensive lines. Eli has Tiki Barber and Brandon Jacobs, Phillip Rivers has LT and Micheal Turner, Matt Hasslebeck has Shaun Alexander...and we all saw how great he was without Shaun, we have had Jonathon Wells, Dominick Davis, Wali Lundy, Vernand Morency, Ron Dayne and Sam Gado. There is no comparision why i think carr is better...he wins without a runningback, get rid of their backs and none of them will have any chance of winning a football game even with good offensive lines.

Manning, Brady, and Favre are few of the talented individuals in the league who find ways to win without a good running cast. so why isn't carr better?
he fights his heart out every week and is consistant with his play no matter who is on the field with him.

I see Carr now and I see the potential he has, with a couple more weapons surrounding him on offense and alot of defensive help in the secondary we will be conteding with Indy and Jacksonville for our division and soon playoffs.
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Maybe I shouldn't have added the "nice try" crack, but I guess that is just the smart azz in me coming out. I just feel strongly that the quarterbacks you have listed as worse than Carr actually have far superior skills and leadership qualities compared to Carr. The guy took 54 attempts to get 320 yards...only the 4th time in his career to pass over 300 yds.

Manning has had a bad few weeks and yes ESPN talks about the Giants a lot b/c of the NY bias, but lately they have been saying that he is losing confidence and showing his picks over and over. Does Carr get scrutinized nationally like that? I think not. Manning beat the Cowboys, we got torched. Yes, we both lost to Tennessee, but the Giants owned that game until the
4th quarter. I can't explain the Jags phenomenon, and I don't think anyone else can either. We certainly didn't win those games because Carr put up a bunch of points.

Hasselback has played in fewer games and has thrown for more TD's. I'll give you that Philip Rivers is overrated and playing with the MVP behind him, but the guy has more upside potential. Also, ust looking at stats, Rivers has more passing yards, more TD's and fewer interceptions.

Back to the thread, I would say that Rex Grossman, Gradkowski and Young(right now) are worse than Carr.
 
Carr is incomparable and he seems to have a new issue each year:

2002- Sacks&INTS (to be expected)
2003- Bad TD/INT (not unexpected) but no sacks, passing improving
2004-Inconsistent (great weeks 2-7, ineffective in the 2nd half)
2005- Unproductive (YPA drops by 2 full yards, sacks go up)
2006- Accurate, inconsistent production, too many turnovers/not making enough plays.

With Carr, it definitely seems to be 1 step forward, 1 step back. At this point in his career, I have no idea who he is and so I can't tell you who he compares to. He's got a great arm and good speed, but neither generates "plays" or puts pressure on opposing defenses. Maybe he can piece together some winning seasons doing a Plummer/Dilfer thing, but I've got no idea at this point. He's an enigma to me. I wonder if Kubiak has him figured out?
 
Carr compares to Quinton Porter on a day with gale winds, sleet, snow, 24 Urlachers and Jason Taylors running around the field...and brimstone falling from the sky...if Carr were playing against the Texans' DBs, that is. Quinton rules.
 
skillz24 said:
i have seen carr throw 60 yard balls in the air and hit his recievers in perfect stride...i have also seen the same guy try to force the ball threw DBs to get to recievers.

Carr is better than Eli Manning, Matt Hasslebeck, Phillip Rivers, etc.
Carr is worse than Brady, Manning, etc.

i can go on and on right now...but Carr has a better chance at getting a superbowl ring being better than average than Manning(Peyton) ever will being great. I would compare Manning to Marino but Peyton has to make it to the Superbowl first.
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this is the funniest/craziest post i have ever seen. CARR IS NOT AND WILL NOT EVER BE BETTER THAN MATT HASSLEBECK, PHILLIP RIVERS, AND ELI MANNING.
 
wenskek said:
this is the funniest/craziest post i have ever seen. CARR IS NOT AND WILL NOT EVER BE BETTER THAN MATT HASSLEBECK, PHILLIP RIVERS, AND ELI MANNING.
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What is the proper way to read this post? Should I believe only what is in upper case and take the lower case preface to be fiction and manifesting itself as inferior? Or should I low talk the first sentence and straight into a nauseated Barry Gibb? Hasselbecks, Rivers and Mannings, oh my. :mario3:
 
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