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Who do you want as the new OC?

It could say and we have read post that indicate there was no conversation between the Texans and Chip Kelly at all. Therefore he did not have an opportunity to accept or decline CJ Stroud.
Well, Kubiak didn’t bother. Neither did Kelly. So far none of the top “options”.
 
Man stop the silly madness. Jezzzzzz
Our QB has to be babysat. Yes that pisses me off. He also has no business picking the OC. They really gave Bobby two years to figure it out, fired him and have no legitimate options. None of these names mentioned have a shot at being more creative than Spags.
 
Money talks. DeMeco is a well-paid HC and Kelly makes more than him. The Texans weren’t going to pay a coordinator more than their HC.

Did not realize how low DeMeco ranks in HC salaries. Could that be a bias against defensive coaches? It seems like unless you’ve won a Super Bowl, you better be an offensive oriented HC to get the big money:


PS: Mike Mcdaniel is making 3.5 million/year. I wonder if he’d be interested in a coordinator position now that Kelly has reset the market?
 
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Raiders are going after Russell Wilson for a short term fix.

Kubiak and Kelly were the two prizes in this cycle. Neither was interviewed for whatever reason.

To clarify..I’m not saying the current regime will be fired if Kelly balls out and our new OC does not. By downfall…I’m saying just that Folks from fans to ownership will be marking them down and worried they can’t choose an OC… and yes eventually…it could lead to firings, but no not after 2025.
 
Stenavich -WC - OL coach who was promoted to offensive coordinator in 2022. Make no mistake Matt LaFleur runs that offense in Green Bay

Brian Johnson - Spread - Mixed on him, his NFL stints are related to gifted QBs who can motor. When he was let go by the Eagles, the players felt the same way I assume our players felt about Slowik. The Commanders offense is driven by Kingsbury, don't know what influence Johnson has there

Calen - WC - I have an unfair bias against him just because he was with the Patriots and we all know what made that offense go and what happened afterwards. He has 2 years with McVay as a TE coach but McVay's other decent disciples have been OCs at some point prior to their success

Nixon - spread - IMO a wildcard, a decent first year as an OC at the collegiate level at Syracuse. His QB was an Ohio St starter who transferred and was coming off an 11-1 season in the Big 10


None of those give me a warm fuzzy but whomever is hired I'll get onboard
Wouldn't mind Stenavich. With his background in coaching OL, this might address our OL problems. But his lack off passing game experience is a concern. Ideally, we would need a Passing Game Coordinator, to address this aspect of the offense. Perhaps Jarrod Johnson could be elevated to this position if our intent was to stay with the WC. Or someone else. If we wanted to move to the Spread, perhaps we could entice Nixon with an offer. Or someone else.

But whoever, we need experience/plan for both the OL/running game and the passing game.
 
Hopefully Lazar is aware of his shortcomings & is helping them find someone who doesn’t have those
 
Kubiak and Kelly were the two prizes in this cycle. Neither was interviewed for whatever reason.

Honest question - what made Kubiak a prize get? That’s to anyone.

Some of Kubiak’s critiques were he couldn’t adapt on the fly. Another is if he couldn’t run on first and second down then his offense sputtered.

He did good work with what he was given which wasn’t much. OL problems, QB problems, WR problems etc.

Outside of his last name and family connection what made him most desirable?
 
Honest question - what made Kubiak a prize get? That’s to anyone.

Some of Kubiak’s critiques were he couldn’t adapt on the fly. Another is if he couldn’t run on first and second down then his offense sputtered.

He did good work with what he was given which wasn’t much. OL problems, QB problems, WR problems etc.

Outside of his last name and family connection what made him most desirable?
I think they are talking about Klint Kubiak. The Saints started on fire in 2024
 
I think they are talking about Klint Kubiak. The Saints started on fire in 2024

That’s who I am talking about too.

Did the critiques on him sound too familiar like his dad? Lol.

I remember they started on fire. But it was against the panthers and cowboys. Which we know those teams weren’t even middle of the pack teams for most of the year.

They started 2-0. Then the saints went on a 7 game losing streak.
 
So I am wanting to be pissed about Chip Kelly, but the whole Kelly was offered double what any OC made last year and would make significantly more than Ryans tells me that I need to just move on.

Otherwise, there have been zero other "name" OC hired by any team this off season. Klint Kubiak's two one and done seasons would be criticized by many except for the last name.
 
It's rare that a coach succeed another more than on an interim basis.

Far as I know the Texans have not reached out to him, so he's probably not choosing sin city over space city
It's only rare because coaches voluntarily retiring is rare. Usually the league retires them by not giving them a job.
 
It's only rare because coaches voluntarily retiring is rare. Usually the league retires them by not giving them a job.
Still Pete Carroll coming back I doubt he’s thinking short term. I doubt a promise of succession was made. If so Pete better be wearing Kevlar on his back.
 
So I am wanting to be pissed about Chip Kelly, but the whole Kelly was offered double what any OC made last year and would make significantly more than Ryans tells me that I need to just move on.
Unless Demeco got a $3-4M raise before signing Chip Kelley, I don't see a reason for you to dwell in that house any longer. I'm convinced they have their guy and will announce something soon. I'm getting a little anxious myself, just hoping they hit a homerun at OC.
 

Our QB might not be a someone easy to coach. Hence why we still don’t have an OC.

He was not taking a lower offer for CJ Stroud and that actually says a lot.

Well the source in front of your eyes says no one has accepted the OC position yet. Which makes sense if the QB is a brat.

This guy hired was highly selective and chose The Strouds.
 
In a sense. OL was a big problem, they fired the OL coach.

Offense never fixed anything & laid some serious eggs, where does the HC culpability come in?

Don't disagree about the OL and its coach; but Bobby dug his own grave with play calling and a complete and utter inability to self scout and adapt.

HC did what he needed to do and fired a friend. I'd be much more critical of DeMeco if Bobby was still the OC
 
Still Pete Carroll coming back I doubt he’s thinking short term. I doubt a promise of succession was made. If so Pete better be wearing Kevlar on his back.
The man is 73 and the oldest coach in the NFL. I doubt he'll be coaching 5 years from now.
 
“Nick” “C”aley and “Nick” “C”aserio have more than their first name and first letter in their last name in common.

Both went to John Carroll University.

Both Nick’s were with the Patriots when they were on top of the hill.

I suspect these guys know each other pretty well and Caley has plenty of experience at 42 years old. He’s still coaching TE’s up, but he added passing game coordinator to his resume with the Rams. Rams had a nice season.

Maybe it’s time for his shot.

lol. Nick Caley is going to turn out to be Nick Caserio in disguise.
 
You think Bobby was scapegoated? Did we watch the same 17 games?

In a way he was. He deserved going for not adjusting to our **** injury situation and putting the team in a position to succeed but let's be forthright about the fact that that's why he was, and not because he sucks even if all things are good. I think he may be better elsewhere. Don't think he's doomed to suck.

They weren't getting rid of DeMeco and not Caserio and not team members.

It fell on Slowik.
 
In a way he was. He deserved going for not adjusting to our **** injury situation and putting the team in a position to succeed but let's be forthright about the fact that that's why he was, and not because he sucks even if all things are good. I think he may be better elsewhere. Don't think he's doomed to suck.

They weren't getting rid of DeMeco and not Caserio and not team members.

It fell on Slowik.
Sounds more like the guy responsible for the portion of the team that performed the worst, and honestly showed no improvement during the season and a step back from last year, was let go. Not sure I'd call that scapegoating.
 
Sounds more like the guy responsible for the portion of the team that performed the worst, and honestly showed no improvement during the season and a step back from last year, was let go. Not sure I'd call that scapegoating.

Alright taking the fall whatever haha. Whatever you wanna call it. I just think that this team will suck again if the roster is held together by fuckin dental floss.
 
Alright taking the fall whatever haha. Whatever you wanna call it. I just think that this team will suck again if the roster is held together by fuckin dental floss.
Under performing guy got fired from job. Happens every day, around the world.

Don't think he "took the fall" or was scapegoated, Slowik did not meet expectations and got fired for it. The injuries don't excuse the eight (7?) week drought of touchdowns in the second half.

Or do you think the offenses underperformance was the fault of someone else?
 
“Nick” “C”aley and “Nick” “C”aserio have more than their first name and first letter in their last name in common.

Both went to John Carroll University.

Both Nick’s were with the Patriots when they were on top of the hill.

I suspect these guys know each other pretty well and Caley has plenty of experience at 42 years old. He’s still coaching TE’s up, but he added passing game coordinator to his resume with the Rams. Rams had a nice season.

Maybe it’s time for his shot.
Perhaps he can help bring young Cade Stover along and bring the best out of him.
 
If it's true about Kelly considering he was seen at the airport, I can understand. Good situation at OSU just having won the National Championship. But both he and Pederson are probably more interested in HC jobs than being coordinators. I was all in on Kelly. I'll be fine with whoever they hire, provided we see some results. If **** still stinks next season, then it's on Demeco and Nick, and potentially CJ. The problem with blaming CJ is that you can easily fire a coach and find another one. You can't just go and find a QB of CJ's quality... And I think any reasonable person would agree, CJ is the best/most talented QB this franchise has ever had. We really don't want to f'k it up with him...
Right about CJ.
I think we know that Texans could benefit from some more imaginative play calling and that will help.
CJ will be fine. He will adjust right back at the adjustments brought against him this sophomore season.
 
Under performing guy got fired from job. Happens every day, around the world.

Don't think he "took the fall" or was scapegoated, Slowik did not meet expectations and got fired for it. The injuries don't excuse the eight (7?) week drought of touchdowns in the second half.

Or do you think the offenses underperformance was the fault of someone else?

No, you're totally right. His inability to put the team in a position to win despite the catastrophic bullshit that befell this team is totally 100 percent worthy of getting rid of him. You'd think we'd be able to adjust *something* to, among other things, ******* score in the 2nd half in games. Horrendous watching it week to week.

But he was the one who took the fall. He paid the price for those failures. The responsibility laid at his feet ultimately. I think he'll be good in another spot since we did see him being better even in similar injury/execution circumstances in 2023. But hey, whatever.

I just hope we shore up all those positions in the draft and FA because if it happens next year, it'll be DeMeco that pays that price. And nobody wants that.
 
Raiders are going after Russell Wilson for a short term fix.

Kubiak and Kelly were the two prizes in this cycle. Neither was interviewed for whatever reason.

To clarify..I’m not saying the current regime will be fired if Kelly balls out and our new OC does not. By downfall…I’m saying just that Folks from fans to ownership will be marking them down and worried they can’t choose an OC… and yes eventually…it could lead to firings, but no not after 2025.
Why is Kubiak a prize?

His offense looked like crap last yr.
 
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