badboy
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I think Colts and Bears will go draft for needs versus FA. We know Chicago dumped Sutton.
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Which off-season moves would you like the Texans to make? (Roster/FA)
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badboy
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I think Colts and Bears will go draft for needs versus FA. We know Chicago dumped Sitton.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Bump up the guaranteed $. There are players who have signed for more G. Why bring in has been like Crick? There are great FA at need positions so go big! I'm ok with Joseph but he needs to win job against CBs we bring in. Get him for lots less than $5 m per. I like Gilchrist but not Pleasant. He needs to be more than Special Team. Give someone else the opportunity.
The Colts guards are equally bad as Houston's and they have a QB coming off missing an entire year. They are going to be in the market if not the major competition for any offensive guard. You already answered your own Bears question.
Mangler
Toro de España
One thing I have noticed that posters dont seem to realize or just flat out choose to ignore; Tom Savage single handedly got the TEs and Receivers destroyed this past season. I know it wasn’t all his fault because our defense also suffered tough losses, but man! Savage threw the ball into triple coverage most of the time or to a receiver that had a safety or CB already rushing full speed at him. I hope he’s a goner, but maybe “knowing the system” will save his ass yet again.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Colts have 3rd and 36th and I would think they would trade down and pick up more choices from #3. They have ample ability to draft for the better Oline guys. My understanding is Bears need right tackle and again that can be corrected in first two rounds. I can see them using free agency for WR or even corner but the latter is deep in this draft. Just my two cents.
How? Is it going to make him stop cutting back into traffic? Is it going to make him stop giving up after first contact?
And I repeat the Colts have a QB that they are interested in keeping healthy, more cap room than the Texans and awful guard play. the move for them is probably to go hard after a free agent and potentially draft another guard. In fact, they actually have a good left tackle already probably plays to their advantage.
guys it is going to take some work besides we have a checkbook and Watson for the Texans. Other teams have needs, and money along with assets to build around.
badboy
Hall of Fame
and I repeat (lol) Colts can pick ready to start Nelson #3 or trade down and still get Hernandez who was really good at senior bowl. In a trade down scenario, if Nelson gone (Denver?) Colts could select Hernandez and still get RG Braden Smith at #39. Using their own 2nd plus another second from trade plus a 3rd from trade (Bears don't have a third) allows them to fill other needs. All three OGs I mention are starters in NFL.
This could definitely happen.
If Luck is healthy the Colts could be much improved pretty quickly.
Way overthinking and worrying about draft day trading. The Colts will work free agency first and then go about messing with this stuff you keep posting. The colts have both ends of off-season capital. They aren't going to ignore free agency to play fantasy GM in the draft.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/02/nfl-salary-cap-2018-draft-picks-offseason-preview-free-agency
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TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
Oh please God no. This guy is a complete shithead. I don't care if he's good. He's completely and utterly detestable.
Texansballer74
The Marine
I believe we all avid followers seen that crazy stuff too. I was like come on Tom, you'r getting the man killed.
NFL is on Sunday
Church is on Sunday
You want church goers playing in the NFL, or do you want the best players in the NFL playing on Sunday's?
Texansballer74
The Marine
My only concerns right now are the Texans. Man bump the Colts. And of course they're set up nicely in the draft and free agency. Just like the Titans and the Jags. But look at how long it took those two franchises to get to where they are at. Also be mindful both can have major setbacks.
All we need is Mr. Great health on our side and We will be back. But much better if Watson continues his record breaking growth.
All we need is Mr. Great health on our side and We will be back. But much better if Watson continues his record breaking growth.
Texansballer74
The Marine
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
What is a man bump? This sounds like the beginning of a bar fight.
Mangler
Toro de España
I’ve always thought the same thing! The dude is a hell of a player, but he’s probably 5x the dumbass Dj Swearinger was in our locker room. And we all remember how that panned out. I wonder if McNair and O’Brien would overlook that small little detail since he’s a hell of a lot better than Dj was though?
Another thing, I wonder how Talib would react if they asked him to help out on special teams? I’d take him over the truck load of waste we have now, I’ll admit that much.
zshawn10
All Pro
Mark Berman@MarkBermanFox26
Bob McNair on #Texans n 2018: "It's going to be an exciting time..Watson's on the road to a recovery...ahead of schedule.JJ's doing the same thing..We've got a few holes but we're already working on that.We'll probably bring in some free agents..We could move up in the 2nd round"
10:34 PM - Mar 1, 2018 · Houston, TX
Dion Lewis anyone?:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/01/plenty-of-interest-in-dion-lewis
Bob McNair on #Texans n 2018: "It's going to be an exciting time..Watson's on the road to a recovery...ahead of schedule.JJ's doing the same thing..We've got a few holes but we're already working on that.We'll probably bring in some free agents..We could move up in the 2nd round"
10:34 PM - Mar 1, 2018 · Houston, TX
Dion Lewis anyone?:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/01/plenty-of-interest-in-dion-lewis
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
If you want to win a SB there is.
I'm not saying have a team full of these guys, but 2-3 wont hurt the lockerroom.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Replace it with the F bomb.
Texansballer74
The Marine
I can see Watson recovering but Watt on the other hand not so much.
With Foreman possibly missing half of next season we might as well give Lewis a shot.
Number19
Hall of Fame
Do we acquire a #2 and #3 QB in free agency or the draft? I have seen little or no comment about the QB position. We need to draft one, but we need to sign a vet to be the #2.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
An amazingly insightful interview with one of the most understatedly intelligent players we ever had.
zshawn10
All Pro
Stradley is really good at her job; she should have more recognition than some of our other Texan beat writers
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
One of the twitter tweets: "Tonight in Indianapolis, #Texans Head Team Physician Dr. Walter Lowe (@orthosport) was named the 2018 recipient of the Jerry “Hawk” Rhea Award, presented annually by @pfats_com to the most outstanding NFL team physician."
As my grandkids are so fond of saying "whatever".
As my grandkids are so fond of saying "whatever".
Texansballer74
The Marine
hahaha what I wrote won't lead to any bar fights. I guess you'v been in a bunch of them. As for myself, I never been a bar fight.
Texansballer74
The Marine
One of the twitter tweets: "Tonight in Indianapolis, #Texans Head Team Physician Dr. Walter Lowe (@orthosport) was named the 2018 recipient of the Jerry “Hawk” Rhea Award, presented annually by @pfats_com to the most outstanding NFL team physician."
As my grandkids are so fond of saying "whatever".
My mother is in her 60's and she uses that word," whatever" a lot. Lol
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
Texansballer74
The Marine
Moms are very special people.
Spoil her every chance you get.
Trust she's very spoiled. Hahaha.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
None of Smiths "options" include Quess .
Wonder if Smith has ever been approached for a front office job.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
None of Smiths "options" include Quess .
Wonder if Smith has ever been approached for a front office job.
As detailed as he was, I doubt that the exclusion of Quess was an oversight.
Smith no doubt would be a nice addition somewhere in the Texans organization.
CloakNNNdagger
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John McClainVerified account@McClain_on_NFL 3h3 hours ago
*We knew Penn State RB Saquon Barkley was an incredible athlete but wow! He ran an official 4.40, benched 225 pounds 29 times and had a 41-inch vertical. And he’s 6-0, 223.
*The Texans better hope the Colts pass up Barkley at No. 3 overall, assuming he’s still available after the Browns and Giants pick.
*We knew Penn State RB Saquon Barkley was an incredible athlete but wow! He ran an official 4.40, benched 225 pounds 29 times and had a 41-inch vertical. And he’s 6-0, 223.
*The Texans better hope the Colts pass up Barkley at No. 3 overall, assuming he’s still available after the Browns and Giants pick.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Ralph Vacchiano of SNY, citing a team source, reports that the Giants are planning to pursue Panthers G Andrew Norwell in free agency.
According to Vacchiano, it could end up costing a team over $12 million per year to get Norwell under contract long-term. However, it sounds like the Giants aren’t scared off by this figure.
According to Vacchiano, it could end up costing a team over $12 million per year to get Norwell under contract long-term. However, it sounds like the Giants aren’t scared off by this figure.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
If the Texans want to fix their OL as a priority....this type of money for a player like Norwell can't scare them either.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
As has been said, either sh!t or get off the pot.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
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After all he has endured Quess has become a favorite among many fans here. Hard not to root for the guy but circumstances are really against him.
The answers/ sugggestions that Smith gave indicate that he has quite a bit of knowledge about the Texans needs / shortcomings.
Hiring more former, qualified, players should be in the forefront for NFL teams. Scouts, coaches, front office. Lots of knowledge going to waste.
Shouldn't require a Rooney rule. Just smarter owners.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I don't care if Texans players go to church but I don't want them to be crooks, thieves, abusers or punks. I have no issue with players who smoke marijuana. I do have players who smoke marijuana knowing it is against NFL rules. Stupid is stupid and pretty much cancels football skills IMO. Cheating is wrong and the 11th Commandment is not "Thou shall not get caught".
First class article with lots of good questions by Stephanie (TC) and clear concise answers by Wade. I especially loved what Wade said about how critical it is that the coaches communicate what types of players they need to the scouts and GM. When picks don't work out it's not just a fail by the GM and scouts.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
I guess this type of thing happens, but when you are paid extremely well to do a pretty easy and enjoyable job, it should be easy to do it well. In fact, so well, that you would be seen to be indispensable to the organisation.
It amazes me that people can treat such opportunities with such a lack of care. If I had a position like that, I guarantee you I would put my heart and soul into it - not just to preserve the income, but the job I love.
I suspect the NE Patriots have a pretty decent organisation in place, and the Texans (and the rest of the league) should be learning from it.
zshawn10
All Pro
Matthew Cannata@PhinsiderRadio
Teams are slowly dropping out of the Jarvis Landry sweepstakes after having interest before his agent was able to talk to teams.
I’m guessing they heard their asking price, laughed, and walked away.
6:38 PM - Mar 2, 2018
Ian Rapoport
✔@RapSheet
With the #Eagles stocked at TE and dealing with cap considerations, free agent Trey Burton is expected to leave Philly. He had 16 teams check in on his status this week, and he’ll have a strong market.
9:58 AM - Mar 3, 2018
Teams are slowly dropping out of the Jarvis Landry sweepstakes after having interest before his agent was able to talk to teams.
I’m guessing they heard their asking price, laughed, and walked away.
6:38 PM - Mar 2, 2018
Ian Rapoport
✔@RapSheet
With the #Eagles stocked at TE and dealing with cap considerations, free agent Trey Burton is expected to leave Philly. He had 16 teams check in on his status this week, and he’ll have a strong market.
9:58 AM - Mar 3, 2018
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
Trey Burton would be a real nice pickup. And cheaper than Graham and such.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Or they aren't willing to pay top dollar for a dirty player and a nasty person on and off the field.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
I doubt that there will be that much difference between their new contracts..........Trey because of promise (still balanced against the unknown of first time starter..........Jimmy because of his injury history. I expect that both will sign for ~$7-8 million per year.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
2018 NFL free agents to avoid
By Michael Renner • Mar 2, 2018
As free agency rolls around and we prepare to see the dollar bills flow, we want to do our best here at PFF to try and curb reckless spending. Buyer’s remorse is a phenomenon we all experience, but our discomfort over buying the wrong brand of toilet paper pales in comparison to owners and general managers eating millions of dollars to cut a guy one or two years down the road (although maybe not depending on how cheap you went). With that in mind, let’s take a look at the guys whose price tag we likely wouldn’t want to match in free agency.
Trumaine Johnson
Johnson has all the traits of an elite corner, and the fact that he was franchised twice already might suggest he is one, but nothing in our grading agrees with that evaluation. In fact, it can be argued that Johnson was the weak link in the Rams’ secondary at times last year. He gave up at least 79 yards in four separate games and his 759 yards allowed were fifth-most among all corners. He’s a solid starter, but is not worth near what he got paid the past two seasons.
AJ McCarron
Brock Osweiler, Mike Glennon, A.J. McCarron. Rinse. Repeat. There is nothing in McCarron’s 201 career dropbacks that suggests he’s ready to be a franchise quarterback. At the same time though, he wasn’t dreadful and hasn’t seen the field for a meaningful stretch of time in three years so he has to be better now, right? Right? The allure of potential at quarterback gets GMs all hot and bothered, but he was a fifth-rounder for a reason and has done nothing to change our minds on that.
Carlos Hyde
Kyle Shanahan’s system is built to make running backs look good. Running behind PFF’s sixth-ranked run-blocking, Hyde only managed a measly 3.9 yards per carry this past season. Sure, he’s flashed impressive games or stretches over the course of his career, but you better be a consistently dominant runner to make up for how bad Hyde is in the passing game. Last season he allowed more pressures (13) and dropped more balls (nine) than any other running back.
Dontari Poe
A thin defensive tackle market sees Poe as likely the second-best option available after Sheldon Richardson. He’s a fine player, but far from a difference-maker. After taking a one-year, $8 million ‘prove-it’ deal with Atlanta last year, he did just that. What he proved by earning the 35th-highest grade among defensive interior players is that he’s worth around $8 million a year and not the eight-figure per year deal he’s likely to get.
Kenny Vaccaro
Vaccaro is another player who has never been right since suffering a serious knee injury. The former first-rounder was a serious rookie of the year candidate before breaking his ankle in Week 15. His struggles came to a head this past season, where he allowed a career high 492 receiving yards after being moved more into the slot. Vaccaro once again ended his season on injured reserve, this time with a torn groin.
NaVorro Bowman
Multiple serious injuries have all but zapped the soon to be 30-year-old linebackers change of direction ability. He went from one of the league’s best all-around linebackers to now someone you’d rather have watching from the sidelines on third downs. He has five total pass breakups and interceptions over the past three seasons after averaging seven per year in the three seasons prior to injury.
Nate Solder
This one is a matter of price tag. We’d be fine with Nate Solder starting at left tackle for us next season, but the fact of the matter is that every team with a poor left tackle feels the exact same way and there’s no other option in free agency. Solder is going to get top-dollar despite ever being close to a top tackle. The highest he’s ever graded out among all tackles as a pass blocker was 21st back in 2013 and he was 45th this past season.
THE REST OF THE STORY
By Michael Renner • Mar 2, 2018
As free agency rolls around and we prepare to see the dollar bills flow, we want to do our best here at PFF to try and curb reckless spending. Buyer’s remorse is a phenomenon we all experience, but our discomfort over buying the wrong brand of toilet paper pales in comparison to owners and general managers eating millions of dollars to cut a guy one or two years down the road (although maybe not depending on how cheap you went). With that in mind, let’s take a look at the guys whose price tag we likely wouldn’t want to match in free agency.
Trumaine Johnson
Johnson has all the traits of an elite corner, and the fact that he was franchised twice already might suggest he is one, but nothing in our grading agrees with that evaluation. In fact, it can be argued that Johnson was the weak link in the Rams’ secondary at times last year. He gave up at least 79 yards in four separate games and his 759 yards allowed were fifth-most among all corners. He’s a solid starter, but is not worth near what he got paid the past two seasons.
AJ McCarron
Brock Osweiler, Mike Glennon, A.J. McCarron. Rinse. Repeat. There is nothing in McCarron’s 201 career dropbacks that suggests he’s ready to be a franchise quarterback. At the same time though, he wasn’t dreadful and hasn’t seen the field for a meaningful stretch of time in three years so he has to be better now, right? Right? The allure of potential at quarterback gets GMs all hot and bothered, but he was a fifth-rounder for a reason and has done nothing to change our minds on that.
Carlos Hyde
Kyle Shanahan’s system is built to make running backs look good. Running behind PFF’s sixth-ranked run-blocking, Hyde only managed a measly 3.9 yards per carry this past season. Sure, he’s flashed impressive games or stretches over the course of his career, but you better be a consistently dominant runner to make up for how bad Hyde is in the passing game. Last season he allowed more pressures (13) and dropped more balls (nine) than any other running back.
Dontari Poe
A thin defensive tackle market sees Poe as likely the second-best option available after Sheldon Richardson. He’s a fine player, but far from a difference-maker. After taking a one-year, $8 million ‘prove-it’ deal with Atlanta last year, he did just that. What he proved by earning the 35th-highest grade among defensive interior players is that he’s worth around $8 million a year and not the eight-figure per year deal he’s likely to get.
Kenny Vaccaro
Vaccaro is another player who has never been right since suffering a serious knee injury. The former first-rounder was a serious rookie of the year candidate before breaking his ankle in Week 15. His struggles came to a head this past season, where he allowed a career high 492 receiving yards after being moved more into the slot. Vaccaro once again ended his season on injured reserve, this time with a torn groin.
NaVorro Bowman
Multiple serious injuries have all but zapped the soon to be 30-year-old linebackers change of direction ability. He went from one of the league’s best all-around linebackers to now someone you’d rather have watching from the sidelines on third downs. He has five total pass breakups and interceptions over the past three seasons after averaging seven per year in the three seasons prior to injury.
Nate Solder
This one is a matter of price tag. We’d be fine with Nate Solder starting at left tackle for us next season, but the fact of the matter is that every team with a poor left tackle feels the exact same way and there’s no other option in free agency. Solder is going to get top-dollar despite ever being close to a top tackle. The highest he’s ever graded out among all tackles as a pass blocker was 21st back in 2013 and he was 45th this past season.
THE REST OF THE STORY
austins23
Hall of Fame
Not gonna argue that point, but the Patriots drafting has been average. Nothing there to say its scouts are better than anyone else's