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What is the single biggest thing that can change for this team to be MORE successful in 2020?

What is the single biggest thing that can change for this team to be MORE successful in 2020?

  • Get a new General Manager.

  • Get a new Head Coach.

  • Get a new Offensive Coordinator.

  • Get a new Quarterback.

  • Full Rebuild.

  • New Ownership.

  • Other (Please state in the comments)


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Texansballer74

Hall of Fame
Big QB stands in the pocket, has a big arm

Looks to throw 1st and run as a last resort.

Dont get me wrong I would take DW4 over Wentz due to injury history.
Are you not reading what you’re writing here. Stand in the pocket in which has been bottom 5 in like forever. You can’t stand tall behind our offensive line. You have to be mobile, he will have to run and hopefully show some elusiveness. Or you would get killed.
 

Corrosion

Idealist
Staff member
The underlying problem is a HC/OC that takes this 'round peg' talent and tries to force it into his own 'square hole' offensive scheme.

The brilliant OC's understand that they might sometimes be required to create a revised scheme that does a better job of allowing the talent to be utilized to maximum potential.

And once again, the inherent dysfunction of the Texans FO has a GM picking a player (based upon the mandate of the owner) that is not suited to the scheme of his HC/OC.

I do believe that both O'Brien and Watson are doing the best they can do under the circumstances.
I don't know that OB is doing his best when he's so inflexible …. He may believe his way is the best way and they have had moderate success that way so you can see why he would believe in his way …

Agree 100%, you have a coach that can’t get out of his comfort zone to fit the offense to the type of QB he has and a QB that can’t change his game enough to fit the scheme. The end result is what we see on the field, a team good enough to have a winning record and get a game or two into the playoffs but will never see it all the way through.

It’s why I wish the Texans would just bite the bullet and go get a QB that fits OB or go get a HC, at least an OC, that fits Watson. Given how much more they cost and how much more difficult they are to get I’d rather at this point we keep the QB.

Fact is though OB is cemented into the power structure of the F/O and Watson is to big of money and name wise to fail so the one hope we have is that the stars align and we luck out a season because at this rate it sure won’t be planning or skill that wins anything.

Honestly there's one issue here that could change the entire dynamic and that's Watson being Watson sooner than later , not waiting on the pressure to get to him before he tries to avoid it.

I don't know if its OB telling him to stay in the pocket until the alarm bell sounds or if its Watson thinking he can superman his way out when needed ….. But if he would get outa the pocket sooner than later instead of standing in there .... it would put a hell of a lot more pressure on those DB's and that pass rush is not nearly as effective chasing a guy around outside the hash marks.

That doesn't mean take off running north south either or that every play has to be a big one , just a positive one.

This does so much positive - takes pressure off the OL , puts pressure on the LBers / DB's , reduces the chances for a sack or negative play and puts Watson where he is at his best (and there's a reason why he's at his best outside the pocket- quite simply it does all of the above).
 

Speedy

Yeller Dweller
Honestly there's one issue here that could change the entire dynamic and that's Watson being Watson sooner than later , not waiting on the pressure to get to him before he tries to avoid it.
Then you’re probably going to need an offensive design that doesn’t have routes that bunches receivers together where the QB has no choice than to hold on to the ball.

Not saying that Watson doesn’t miss the wide open guy on occasion, all QBs do, but the poor design of these routes play a big role in holding everyone back.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
The underlying problem is a HC/OC that takes this 'round peg' talent and tries to force it into his own 'square hole' offensive scheme.

The brilliant OC's understand that they might sometimes be required to create a revised scheme that does a better job of allowing the talent to be utilized to maximum potential.

And once again, the inherent dysfunction of the Texans FO has a GM picking a player (based upon the mandate of the owner) that is not suited to the scheme of his HC/OC.

I do believe that both O'Brien and Watson are doing the best they can do under the circumstances.
I agree with the last paragraph.

We no longer have to worry about the GM/HC being on the same page. The problem is RS left BOB with a QB he didn't want or fit the offense BOB wants to run. This, in addition to DW4's deficiencies is why this isn't going to work.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
I don't know that OB is doing his best when he's so inflexible …. He may believe his way is the best way and they have had moderate success that way so you can see why he would believe in his way …




Honestly there's one issue here that could change the entire dynamic and that's Watson being Watson sooner than later , not waiting on the pressure to get to him before he tries to avoid it.

I don't know if its OB telling him to stay in the pocket until the alarm bell sounds or if its Watson thinking he can superman his way out when needed ….. But if he would get outa the pocket sooner than later instead of standing in there .... it would put a hell of a lot more pressure on those DB's and that pass rush is not nearly as effective chasing a guy around outside the hash marks.

That doesn't mean take off running north south either or that every play has to be a big one , just a positive one.

This does so much positive - takes pressure off the OL , puts pressure on the LBers / DB's , reduces the chances for a sack or negative play and puts Watson where he is at his best (and there's a reason why he's at his best outside the pocket- quite simply it does all of the above).
You really think DW4 can win a championship playing this way? He will look successful against the bad defenses but not against top defenses.
 

Corrosion

Idealist
Staff member
Then you’re probably going to need an offensive design that doesn’t have routes that bunches receivers together where the QB has no choice than to hold on to the ball.

Not saying that Watson doesn’t miss the wide open guy on occasion, all QBs do, but the poor design of these routes play a big role in holding everyone back.
We've discussed this often and I've watched all22 to try to pinpoint it …. I cant decide if this is OB's design or route runners making mistakes.

With the frequency that it occurs and the fact that just about all of them are involved at one time or another , and only Coutee found his way into the dog house …. I'm leaning towards it being OB's design rather than simple mistakes.

Yes , that has to be solved.

But … even if it isn't - and its not likely to change as long as the GM , HC , OC is King - Watson bailing out of the pocket before he's forced to do so can only help the situation as it forces defenders to commit one way or the other.
Make your reads and move along. Standing there waiting for someone to come open after those initial reads letting the pressure build and then reacting isn't helping anything at all. Getting outside and putting defenders in a catch 22 …. that's going to help.

You really think DW4 can win a championship playing this way? He will look successful against the bad defenses but not against top defenses.
Like he is currently …. No.

With a little modification to what he's doing ? …. Yes.
 

Earl34

Veteran
Agree 100%, you have a coach that can’t get out of his comfort zone to fit the offense to the type of QB he has and a QB that can’t change his game enough to fit the scheme. The end result is what we see on the field, a team good enough to have a winning record and get a game or two into the playoffs but will never see it all the way through.

It’s why I wish the Texans would just bite the bullet and go get a QB that fits OB or go get a HC, at least an OC, that fits Watson. Given how much more they cost and how much more difficult they are to get I’d rather at this point we keep the QB.

Fact is though OB is cemented into the power structure of the F/O and Watson is to big of money and name wise to fail so the one hope we have is that the stars align and we luck out a season because at this rate it sure won’t be planning or skill that wins anything.
I read "get a QB that fits OB". Besides Garapollo who was drafted in 2014, what QB that has been in the draft or a FA that meets O'Brien's criteria? Mallet and Hoyer were in the EP system and couldn't succeed with O'Brien. Savage was on the roster for years and failed. Osweiler was a big, pocket QB and failed.

Christian Hackenberg and Matt McGloin played at Penn State for O'Brien. They are either on an XFL roster or doing nothing. Are these the type of QBs that are classified as OB QBs?
 

Texansballer74

Hall of Fame
I read "get a QB that fits OB". Besides Garapollo who was drafted in 2014, what QB that has been in the draft or a FA that meets O'Brien's criteria? Mallet and Hoyer were in the EP system and couldn't succeed with O'Brien. Savage was on the roster for years and failed. Osweiler was a big, pocket QB and failed.

Christian Hackenberg and Matt McGloin played at Penn State for O'Brien. They are either on an XFL roster or doing nothing. Are these the type of QBs that are classified as OB QBs?
Some thinks Mitch Tribrisky would’ve been the pick if Chitown didn’t pick him first. Lol
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
I read "get a QB that fits OB". Besides Garapollo who was drafted in 2014, what QB that has been in the draft or a FA that meets O'Brien's criteria? Mallet and Hoyer were in the EP system and couldn't succeed with O'Brien. Savage was on the roster for years and failed. Osweiler was a big, pocket QB and failed.

Christian Hackenberg and Matt McGloin played at Penn State for O'Brien. They are either on an XFL roster or doing nothing. Are these the type of QBs that are classified as OB QBs?
Mahomes

It's been rumored that's who BOB wanted but RS wouldn't give up the extra 3rd.
 
I read "get a QB that fits OB". Besides Garapollo who was drafted in 2014, what QB that has been in the draft or a FA that meets O'Brien's criteria? Mallet and Hoyer were in the EP system and couldn't succeed with O'Brien. Savage was on the roster for years and failed. Osweiler was a big, pocket QB and failed.

Christian Hackenberg and Matt McGloin played at Penn State for O'Brien. They are either on an XFL roster or doing nothing. Are these the type of QBs that are classified as OB QBs?
Yes a big arm pocket passer is the kind of QB that OB prefers. Something else like it or not but those guys all played their best football under him. That doesn’t mean they were good choices but if you look at their performance on other teams yeah he got more out of them than anyone.

As far as what QB I don’t know of any or if there is one and frankly I don’t care. I don’t care who they get or if they get anybody. I would prefer they get a HC that can utilize a dual threat QB correctly and I would really prefer it if they did it before we hand Watson a blank check but that’s not going to happen.

So if they aren’t going to replace OB than go all in on your chips and let him get the QB he wants, you’ve already given him all the other keys why not the last one. Thing is that’s not going to happen either so we are stuck in the great circle of crap of a HC that can’t use a dual threat QB and a QB that can’t be a pocket passer.
 
Some thinks Mitch Tribrisky would’ve been the pick if Chitown didn’t pick him first. Lol
Who are “some” because if you mean anyone on this board I don’t recall anybody saying they thought Texans were going to take Trubisky. Some think OB wanted Mahomes and some say Watson was pure RS but it has never been said anywhere they wanted Trubisky except for maybe some random joe saying random stuff.
 

Earl34

Veteran
Yes a big arm pocket passer is the kind of QB that OB prefers. Something else like it or not but those guys all played their best football under him. That doesn’t mean they were good choices but if you look at their performance on other teams yeah he got more out of them than anyone.

As far as what QB I don’t know of any or if there is one and frankly I don’t care. I don’t care who they get or if they get anybody. I would prefer they get a HC that can utilize a dual threat QB correctly and I would really prefer it if they did it before we hand Watson a blank check but that’s not going to happen.

So if they aren’t going to replace OB than go all in on your chips and let him get the QB he wants, you’ve already given him all the other keys why not the last one. Thing is that’s not going to happen either so we are stuck in the great circle of crap of a HC that can’t use a dual threat QB and a QB that can’t be a pocket passer.
Since 2015, what big arm QB has been available in free agency or the draft?
 
Since 2015, what big arm QB has been available in free agency or the draft?
Sam Bradford
Teddy Bridgwater
Kirk Cousins
Case Keenum
Carson Wentz

and of course Patrick Mahomes

Those guys all more closely fit the kind of QB that OB likes. You are completely missing my point though in your drive to try and prove your own. It doesn't matter what QBs have been out there since 2015 or any other time I'm talking about what they do now. If they are going to keep OB as the HC then let him find the QB he wants. If they are going to keep Watson as the QB then find him a HC, or at least OC, that can better scheme for him. Since possible franchise QBs are much harder to find than HCs, and cost you alot more, then I say it would be better and easier to find him a HC and hopefully do it before making him the second highest paid QB in the league.

Texans aren't going to do either of those things though. They are going to keep the same HC, and by default OC, and QB and all we can do is hope one of them does a complete 180 or, more likely, the stars align and we get very lucky with a schedule or injuries to our opponets.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
Some thinks Mitch Tribrisky would’ve been the pick if Chitown didn’t pick him first. Lol
I wouldn't have been surprised if RS picked Trubiski if he would've been available. After all RS really hadn't ever drafted a QB. (Yes I know he drafted Yates/Brink.)
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
Sam Bradford
Teddy Bridgwater
Kirk Cousins
Case Keenum
Carson Wentz

and of course Patrick Mahomes

Those guys all more closely fit the kind of QB that OB likes. You are completely missing my point though in your drive to try and prove your own. It doesn't matter what QBs have been out there since 2015 or any other time I'm talking about what they do now. If they are going to keep OB as the HC then let him find the QB he wants. If they are going to keep Watson as the QB then find him a HC, or at least OC, that can better scheme for him. Since possible franchise QBs are much harder to find than HCs, and cost you alot more, then I say it would be better and easier to find him a HC and hopefully do it before making him the second highest paid QB in the league.

Texans aren't going to do either of those things though. They are going to keep the same HC, and by default OC, and QB and all we can do is hope one of them does a complete 180 or, more likely, the stars align and we get very lucky with a schedule or injuries to our opponets.
If BOB stays, it would be better for DW4 to get hurt so that would force the Texans org to get another QB that better fits what BOB wants to do.

This is an unpleasant truth. But paired together neither one of them stand a chance to win a SB and I dont thin the HC matters, unless you put a Broncos defense around DW4 like Elway did for Manning there will be no championships.

And no, this post doesn't mean I'm wishing for DW4 to get hurt.
 

nut

Veteran
King BObrien needs to go. He would override any OC at critical junctures and is the GM anyway, as well as the other positions he has usurped. He will never be the quarterback, but if we lose enough games, he will probably be deeded part of the team and become an owner.
 

Earl34

Veteran
Sam Bradford
Teddy Bridgwater
Kirk Cousins
Case Keenum
Carson Wentz

and of course Patrick Mahomes

Those guys all more closely fit the kind of QB that OB likes. You are completely missing my point though in your drive to try and prove your own. It doesn't matter what QBs have been out there since 2015 or any other time I'm talking about what they do now. If they are going to keep OB as the HC then let him find the QB he wants. If they are going to keep Watson as the QB then find him a HC, or at least OC, that can better scheme for him. Since possible franchise QBs are much harder to find than HCs, and cost you alot more, then I say it would be better and easier to find him a HC and hopefully do it before making him the second highest paid QB in the league.

Texans aren't going to do either of those things though. They are going to keep the same HC, and by default OC, and QB and all we can do is hope one of them does a complete 180 or, more likely, the stars align and we get very lucky with a schedule or injuries to our opponets.
I’m not trying to badger you or missing your point. I’m simply saying that whether it’s five years ago, today or next year the idea that this big arm, stay in the pocket QB is available and waiting for O’Brien is not very realistic.

Based on the talent pool, they are unavailable. For every QB you listed, I can give you an excuse for why they are not an OB QB. From Bridgewater having small hands to Wentz and Bradford’s injury history to Mahome’s draft profile. We already know what O’Brien thinks of Keemun.

Again. Not trying to pick a fight with you. I’m just not buying the “give OB what he wants” or “find a big, pocket QB” fixes the root problems with this offense.
 
I’m not trying to badger you or missing your point. I’m simply saying that whether it’s five years ago, today or next year the idea that this big arm, stay in the pocket QB is available and waiting for O’Brien is not very realistic.

Based on the talent pool, they are unavailable. For every QB you listed, I can give you an excuse for why they are not an OB QB. From Bridgewater having small hands to Wentz and Bradford’s injury history to Mahome’s draft profile. We already know what O’Brien thinks of Keemun.

Again. Not trying to pick a fight with you. I’m just not buying the “give OB what he wants” or “find a big, pocket QB” fixes the root problems with this offense.
I understand what you are saying and believe me I do not think going and finding a new QB is going to magically fix all our problems just like I don't think just going and finding a new HC will magically fix all our problems. My only point is rather than constantly spinning our wheels if we are going to place our bets on either OB or Watson then lets go all in on either one of them. It might work or it most likley won't but what we are doing now definity isn't working.

As far as how to find and get that new QB no its not easy and you are right there are reasons why we haven't/can't get them but thats true for almost all players. The orgs job is to find a way to overcome those reasons, hopefully not in a way that cures the disease by killing the patient. Lets go back in time to when we got Osweiler, now he turned out to be a bust that hurt the team but before we knew that it was one of the greatest off season moves the Texans had ever made. They picked their guy and were agrresive in going out and getting him and took on the defending champs with Elway, who many were saying was the best GM in the league at the time. Again it didn't work out but it was the mindset I admired, the willingness to swing for the fences and just go for it.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Agree 100%, you have a coach that can’t get out of his comfort zone to fit the offense to the type of QB he has and a QB that can’t change his game enough to fit the scheme. The end result is what we see on the field, a team good enough to have a winning record and get a game or two into the playoffs but will never see it all the way through.

It’s why I wish the Texans would just bite the bullet and go get a QB that fits OB or go get a HC, at least an OC, that fits Watson. Given how much more they cost and how much more difficult they are to get I’d rather at this point we keep the QB.

Fact is though OB is cemented into the power structure of the F/O and Watson is to big of money and name wise to fail so the one hope we have is that the stars align and we luck out a season because at this rate it sure won’t be planning or skill that wins anything.
My POV also. Neither HC or #4 leaving so get an RB that can move ball and score TDs air and ground. Add CB and better RG.
 

Mr teX

Hall of Fame
I don't think anyone can say for certain what kind of physical traits or the type of play BoB wants out of his QBs. Look at the words BoB uses to describe all his guys.

tough
smart
physical

So i don't think he has any specific traits or type of play he wants out of his QB's other than those 3. Just check all those boxes & he's good. Well, DW4 definitely checks all 3.

I've said this before & I'll say it again here, I think the biggest challenge BoB sees himself faced with with DW4 is controlling his at times reckless style of play. I think he feels he needs to continue to corral DW4 in getting him to see the big picture of the season. Basically telling him to pick his spots carefully.

Taking on linebackers? probably not a smart idea kid.
Ok to take a shot now and then, but not in these types of situations..
Rather than lowering shoulder in this situation, just run out of bounds, don't take that shot if you don't have to.
I know this is where the coverage says you should go with the ball, but if you don't see it developing right away, check it down instead of taking that shot waiting on it to materialize.

etc..etc.
 

KTex

Noob
I don't know that OB is doing his best when he's so inflexible …. He may believe his way is the best way and they have had moderate success that way so you can see why he would believe in his way …




Honestly there's one issue here that could change the entire dynamic and that's Watson being Watson sooner than later , not waiting on the pressure to get to him before he tries to avoid it.

I don't know if its OB telling him to stay in the pocket until the alarm bell sounds or if its Watson thinking he can superman his way out when needed ….. But if he would get outa the pocket sooner than later instead of standing in there .... it would put a hell of a lot more pressure on those DB's and that pass rush is not nearly as effective chasing a guy around outside the hash marks.

That doesn't mean take off running north south either or that every play has to be a big one , just a positive one.

This does so much positive - takes pressure off the OL , puts pressure on the LBers / DB's , reduces the chances for a sack or negative play and puts Watson where he is at his best (and there's a reason why he's at his best outside the pocket- quite simply it does all of the above).
Running outside the pocket makes it harder on the OL.
 

Corrosion

Idealist
Staff member
Running outside the pocket makes it harder on the OL.

No , it doesn't …. don't know where you got that idea from. It really takes the pressure off the linemen , especially when the DL is trying to contain and collapse which is what defense did to Watson the entire second half of the season.
 

KTex

Noob
No , it doesn't …. don't know where you got that idea from. It really takes the pressure off the linemen , especially when the DL is trying to contain and collapse which is what defense did to Watson the entire second half of the season.
I have no idea where you got that idea from(Back at ya!!!)

One of the things that really helps OL's is knowing which way to block. When the QB is running around every whichaway, the OL's cannot keep leverage and often get called for a hold as they have their hands in position to block a certain way.

Now if your OL is getting owned anyway, it's not going to matter much.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
I have no idea where you got that idea from(Back at ya!!!)

One of the things that really helps OL's is knowing which way to block. When the QB is running around every whichaway, the OL's cannot keep leverage and often get called for a hold as they have their hands in position to block a certain way.

Now if your OL is getting owned anyway, it's not going to matter much.
Agreed,

But he's talking about designed roll out to get DW4 out of the pocket. While it will work sometimes, I dont think you can make a living playing this way with a QB that has accuracy/anticipation issues.
 

Corrosion

Idealist
Staff member
I have no idea where you got that idea from(Back at ya!!!)

One of the things that really helps OL's is knowing which way to block. When the QB is running around every whichaway, the OL's cannot keep leverage and often get called for a hold as they have their hands in position to block a certain way.

Now if your OL is getting owned anyway, it's not going to matter much.

From a guy who wears 4 Superbowl rings as a QB coach , OC and HC and countless OLmen in the league.
 

KTex

Noob
Agreed,

But he's talking about designed roll out to get DW4 out of the pocket. While it will work sometimes, I dont think you can make a living playing this way with a QB that has accuracy/anticipation issues.
Of course. As you said, can't do a designed rollout every play.
 

KTex

Noob
I was simply answering the question of where I got that idea / information from , if you don't like the answer …. that's fine with me but …. that's who I learned it from.

If those are silly credentials …. well …. whatever.
It's not that I didn't "like" the answer, I consider it not true!!!! Like has nothing to do w/ it!!!!

I've never heard anyone claim it's easier to block for QB's who take off running a lot, and have heard much info to the contrary. OL's are blocking guys who are slippery and mostly have excellent lateral agility and burst. So, when an OL is blocking a guy, and suddenly the defender changes direction to follow the QB running outside, it's incredibly hard to not get called for holding and almost impossible to hold the block. Don't see at all how it would be easier. Can you explain why it's easier instead of citing credentials?
 

Mr teX

Hall of Fame
Ya'll are talking about 2 different things imo. Corrosion is talking about a guy that's quick to run after 1 read...he's right by the way it is easier for an OL in that situation b/c they don't have to hold their blocks for long before the qb is outta there.

You're talking about a guy that's closer to who DW4 is which is a guy that at times is jumping & running around behind the LOS too much ala Mike Vick. You're also right though. Hard for an lineman to stick on & maintain his blocks when a guy is back there doing that. Usually though, the reason why those guys are doing that is b/c they're dodging on-coming tacklers...i.e. the o-line isn't doing a very good job with not allowing the quick pressure on said QB.
 
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KTex

Noob
Ya'll are talking about 2 different things imo. Corrosion is talking about a guy that's quick to run after 1 read...he's right by the way it is easier for an OL in that situation b/c they don't have to hold their blocks for long before the qb is outta there.

You're talking about a guy that's closer to who DW4 is which is a guy that at times is jumping & running around behind the LOS too much ala Mike Vick. You're also right though. Hard for an lineman to stick on & maintain his blocks when a guy is back there doing that. Usually though, the reason why those guys are doing that is b/c they're dodging on-coming tacklers...i.e. the o-line isn't doing a very good job with not allowing the quick pressure on said QB.
Possibly.

However, since the OL is blocking one way, and suddenly the QB takes off to the outside, you'll see a lot more holding calls as the OL won't be able to disengage quickly enough.

Now, if he's referring to designed runs, that's a completely different thing. Because in a designed QB run, the OL knows which way to block.

If your OL sucks, none of this matters all that much!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Uncle Rico

Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was

Hi Geoff, I wanted to get your opinion about blocking for different stylistic QBs in an offense. For example, the starter is a more pocket-oriented passer, while the backup has a tendency to leave the pocket quicker. From the OL perspective, which do you prefer blocking for? Is there a noticeable difference into the OL’s approach? Also, what is the drop-off in terms of plays that can be called (whether that’s overall volume or complexity of plays)? — @adamrads0925

Great question, Adam. What offensive linemen want from their quarterback is consistency: Drop to the same point and climb the pocket. Don’t panic. If the ball is supposed to be out quickly, throw it quickly.
Pass protection at its simplest is just staying between your man and the quarterback. If you know where the QB is going to be, it makes it easier. Quarterbacks who are less mobile tend to do all these things at a higher rate. They want to get rid of the ball to avoid having to move or getting crushed in the pocket. They don’t rush out the back of the pocket or make quick decisions to roll out. We know exactly where they will be.
The downside of a “pocket” quarterback is just that. They stay in the pocket and can’t escape when we get beat. Mobile quarterbacks are more likely to make defenders miss, get out of the pocket, and then make a sweet downfield play.

Now, there’s a HUGE difference between a mobile quarterback and a QB who’s a rusher. For example, Russell Wilson is mobile in the pocket and looks to run last. Pat Mahomes is the same — avoid pressure, eyes downfield, find a receiver, and run at the last moment.
Then there are mobile quarterbacks who tuck and run at the first sight of pressure. Those are the rushing quarterbacks. Those don’t last long in the NFL. So of course I’d like to play with a mobile quarterback who can make me look good if I screw up. Next would be a pocket passer and third is the rushing quarterback.
For backups, yikes. Just hope you don’t have to play much with them. They are typically backups for a reason — slow to process information and don’t have the arm to make all the throws. In that case, being able to run is a plus.
I think with Watson specifically the OL needs to know that the play is never over. Pass block until the whistle. OL Coach has to be able to execute a different approach through film study. Its why an intentional moving pocket and getting Watson to move within the play design would be vital to the growth between the OL and Watson. I expect a huge leap from the line next year Tunsil and Howard are good bookends with a guy like Watson. Minimize the inside rush and it should work well in a design or disaster situation.
 

OptimisticTexan

Hall of Fame



I think with Watson specifically the OL needs to know that the play is never over. Pass block until the whistle. OL Coach has to be able to execute a different approach through film study. Its why an intentional moving pocket and getting Watson to move within the play design would be vital to the growth between the OL and Watson. I expect a huge leap from the line next year Tunsil and Howard are good bookends with a guy like Watson. Minimize the inside rush and it should work well in a design or disaster situation.
Exactly why I wouldn't hesitate to take Michigan OL; C- Ruiz and RG- Bredeson in RD2 and RD3 if both are on the board at those picks. 2- solid teammates added to the trio of Tunsil, Scharping and Howard and this line is not only young but could become one of the top NFL lines in short order. Lots of good things happen behind a solid OL, especially when the offensive weapons are as talented as the Texans.

If the 2020 NFL Draft netted the Texans a young dominant OL, it would be considered a slam dunk in the draft. Toss in RB, Zach Moss of Utah hopefully in RD4......then WR, Callaway of Tennessee in RD7, the Texans offense would be completed and should only need time to finish jelling as a unit.
 

Uncle Rico

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Exactly why I wouldn't hesitate to take Michigan OL; C- Ruiz and RG- Bredeson in RD2 and RD3 if both are on the board at those picks. 2- solid teammates added to the trio of Tunsil, Scharping and Howard and this line is not only young but could become one of the top NFL lines in short order. Lots of good things happen behind a solid OL, especially when the offensive weapons are as talented as the Texans.

If the 2020 NFL Draft netted the Texans a young dominant OL, it would be considered a slam dunk in the draft. Toss in RB, Zach Moss of Utah hopefully in RD4......then WR, Callaway of Tennessee in RD7, the Texans offense would be completed and should only need time to finish jelling as a unit.
those are luxury picks if you ask me. You already have the framework of what SHOULD BE in terms of talent one of the better lines out there .. you've already invested a ton of capital into that unit - I wouldnt spend the limited picks we have on the OL. Im going all defense in the draft. You seem to be going all offense which isnt a bad thing per se if the defense was at least average.
 

steelbtexan

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I'm on the draft defense train.

But I wonder how good this offense would be if Akers/Duvernay/Mims were added to it. Those would be some great weapons to help DW4 grow.
 

KTex

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I think with Watson specifically the OL needs to know that the play is never over. Pass block until the whistle. OL Coach has to be able to execute a different approach through film study. Its why an intentional moving pocket and getting Watson to move within the play design would be vital to the growth between the OL and Watson. I expect a huge leap from the line next year Tunsil and Howard are good bookends with a guy like Watson. Minimize the inside rush and it should work well in a design or disaster situation.
Good stuff.
 


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