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What is Sage's value?--Sage Frustrated

AcresHomesTexan

AcresHomesTexan

No Longer Arlington: Escaped From Jerry's World
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Was just about to post this.

It'd be a tempting deal for me. I'd be suprised if the vikings would give up a 2nd for him but you never know.



For a third, I'd think about it.

For a second, yes.
 
oh nose :/

2 second-round picks is what we paid to get our starting QB. Tell the Vikes that the price hasn't changed ;)
 
No way I do this. Schaub hasn't proven he can stay healthy going back to his days at Virginia and, without something to legitimately back him up, I don't let our insurance go for less than a second.
 
Do not like.

Do not like this rumor at all.

This league requires two quarterbacks, or one quarterback and a whole heck of a lot of luck. The Texans haven't had their share.

The Texans much earlier in the preseason denied a desire to shop Rosenfels.

We have enough messed up need positions on this team without creating another one.
 
I think 60 different quarterbacks started NFL games last season. Proof alone that unless your name is Brady or Manning, you need a good back-up QB.

(Of course Carolina alone accounted for four of them)
 
Texan_Bill said:
I think 60 different quarterbacks started NFL games last season. Proof alone that unless your name is Brady or Manning, you need a good back-up QB.

(Of course Carolina alone accounted for four of them)
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Dell Homie isn't a back-up.

"Need Backup!!!"
 
Put me in the don't trade Sage camp also. Too valuable to have a guy come in off the bench and not lose a beat.
 
I say that you have to pull the trigger on this. Schaub is the QB, and the Vikings 3rd is more then I though he would ever be worth.

Playoff caliber team's need veteran back-ups, for a team like the Texans the pick is more usefull then Sage (regardless if it's a 2nd or a 3rd round pick).
 
The1ApplePie said:
Hello John David Booty in the 4th?
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That is an interesting perspective though. Considering Kubiak's background, maybe we could get away with shipping out Rosenfels, signing a veteran like Nall, and drafting a QB who fits the system in the middle rounds to groom if the Schaub experiment doesn't work out.
 
I don't think Rick Smith will make this trade if it were true. He knows after making the deal for Matt Schaub that having a good backup qb is very important for the team. I would think about this deal if the Vikes would pony up a second rounder to go with the third.
 
I know how we can piss off the VY homers!

Get this trade done (for a 2nd rounder) & then pick up the super-athletic Josh Johnson from San Diego late in the draft.
 
That would be a nice deal for the Vikes. And a good career move for Sage. But is it the right deal for the Texans? They'd have to find a backup on the free agent market (Josh McCown?). Then hope Schaub can play the full schedule. It seems too risky for the 73rd pick in the draft.
 
If a starter is worth two 2nd rounders, then a near-starter should be worth at least a 2nd rounder.
 
bah007 said:
If a starter is worth two 2nd rounders, then a near-starter should be worth at least a 2nd rounder.
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According to my logic, Rosenfels is as much of a starter this year as Schaub were last year. Unless Rosenfels is making alot of noice to make this deal go through, I would not trade him for less than what we gave for Schaub, 2 second-rounders.
 
Texans_Chick said:
Do not like.

Do not like this rumor at all.

This league requires two quarterbacks, or one quarterback and a whole heck of a lot of luck. The Texans haven't had their share.

The Texans much earlier in the preseason denied a desire to shop Rosenfels.

We have enough messed up need positions on this team without creating another one.
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I agree with this, we are deep at QB and WR, and TE is not bad. Let's not take that away, and rob Peter to pay Sage.

It would be very tempting for a second rounder though.
 
TEXANS84 said:
Actually, we could actually trade Sage and re-sign Carr as a backup.


*just woke back up from that horrible nightmare, carry on*
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That's a disgusting joke with no humor in it whatsoever, regardless of context.

I would probably be sobbing on the floor if Carr ever took another snap for the Texans. Good thing I don't own a gun.
 
Texans_Chick said:
Do not like.

Do not like this rumor at all.

This league requires two quarterbacks, or one quarterback and a whole heck of a lot of luck. The Texans haven't had their share.

The Texans much earlier in the preseason denied a desire to shop Rosenfels.

We have enough messed up need positions on this team without creating another one.
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Diddo, Look what happened to Atlanta when Schaub was no longer there to "backup." For that matter, it seems that most of the cases of what happens when the starter goes down results is a downer rather than an upper. It is the exception that a "jewel" is found that will just "step in" without missing a step with the starter going down. We're fortunate to have this element of security. For those that think we can get someone in to replace Rosenfels with a player offering more "security" (especially this year) even with 2 second round picks, I'd have to say............look how many "experiments" this team has already bet on..............and lost....................One in the hand..................especially if that bird may be the better bird.
 
It's true:

Vikings | Team offers third-round pick for Rosenfels
Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:00:09 -0800

Kevin Seifert, of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, reports the Minnesota Vikings offered the Houston Texans a third-round draft pick for QB Sage Rosenfels, who is under contract.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Diddo, Look what happened to Atlanta when Schaub was no longer there to "backup." For that matter, it seems that most of the cases of what happens when the starter goes down results is a downer rather than an upper. It is the exception that a "jewel" is found that will just "step in" without missing a step with the starter going down. We're fortunate to have this element of security. For those that think we can get someone in to replace Rosenfels with a player offering more "security" (especially this year) even with 2 second round picks, I'd have to say............look how many "experiments" this team has already bet on..............and lost....................One in the hand..................
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The Atlanta situation was caused by Vick's dog-fighting, not the departure of Schaub.
 
No way we give him up for just a 3rd. Hell we got rid of Drew Henson and drafted Dave Ragone* for 3rd rounders. Anyone that doesn't think Sage is worth more than that is crazy.

* Bad example as it does have Casserly's taint on it.
 
According to a league source, Minnesota is offering Houston a third-round 2008 draft pick in exchange for backup Sage Rosenfels, who went 4-1 last season in place of injured Texans starter Matt Schaub. Houston, which finished a franchise-best 8-8 last season, is said to be seeking a second-round pick in exchange for Rosenfels, who is not a free agent.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/don_banks/02/28/notebook/index.html

We're willing to trade him...


If we do move him, I suggest bringing Davie back to replace him!! :heh:
 
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