Wish to make a one time donation? Make it here.

Welcome to the Texans, OT Laremy Tunsil.

badboy

Hall of Fame
I’m honestly not sure how you could calculate that because there are so many variables it’s not even funny. For example a guy like Dillard in the last draft had great value to the Eagles because they could let him ride the bench behind a HoF LT and learn. To the Texans, however, his value wasn’t as great because they needed an immediate answer and he wouldn’t be that.

Even Tunsil he had huge value to the Texans, because of that immediate answer, but Miami is in rebuild so they would have shopped him out long before his contract was up because he was worth far more in picks than position.

Likewise linemen are less valuable to a team with a super fast release, Brady, than a team that has a laser accurate pocket passer who needs time to throw, Brees.
I'm Miami, I trade high round two for Derek Carr, 1.5 LT Becton, 1.19 best WR & 1.26 best RB. That could out them into middle pack with two firsts and two seconds 2021. I would also consider trading those this year due to deep talent or to trade up 2021 for QB Trevor Lawrence.
 

OptimisticTexan

Hall of Fame
Tunsil and his agent may want 20M per year on a 5 year deal but his 2021 Market Value per Sportrac has him at:

5 Years / 91M / 18.2M Per Year

Trent Williams on the other hand would come cheaper and on a shorter contract. His 2021 Market Value per Sportrac has him at:

3 Years / 46M / 15.3M Per Year **His age and medical concerns will be a factor**


AVERAGES4.3$70,000,000$16,470,58827.5
PLAYERLENGTHVALUEAVG. SALARYAGE WHEN SIGNED
Lane Johnson (RT) EAGLES4$72,000,000$18,000,00029
Trenton Brown (RT) RAIDERS4$66,000,000$16,500,00025
Taylor Lewan (LT) TITANS5$80,000,000$16,000,00027
Nate Solder (LT) GIANTS4$62,000,000$15,500,00029

Taylor Lewan is the highest paid NFL LT at the moment. His contract in general terms breaks down as follows:
CONTRACT TERMS: 5 YRS / $80,000,000SIGNING BONUS: $11,000,000AVERAGE SALARY: $16,000,000GTD AT SIGNING: $34,000,000TOTAL GTD: $50,000,000FREE AGENT:
2024 / UFA

If I could move Tunsil to the Redskins in a trade for Trent Williams......the contract numbers should work out in the Texans favor. Not to mention, I'd push for a swap of RD3 picks. The Texans would get the Redskins RD3-02-66 and the Redskins would receive the Texans RD3-26-90 pick.

A major precursor, Cal and OB would have to get TW a new contract as part of the deal so they don't find themselves in the Tunsil situation come 2021.

In the bigger picture, getting TW's off the books when the Scharping would need a new deal could be great timing in 2022. Howard would come around in 2023. A new RG in the 2020 NFL Draft would come around in 2024. A new LT in the 2022 NFL Draft would be solid through 2027. Somewhere along the way a new Center would be brought on board. This could be a way to see the Texans keep their developed OL together.
 

Texansballer74

Hall of Fame
Tunsil and his agent may want 20M per year on a 5 year deal but his 2021 Market Value per Sportrac has him at:

5 Years / 91M / 18.2M Per Year

Trent Williams on the other hand would come cheaper and on a shorter contract. His 2021 Market Value per Sportrac has him at:

3 Years / 46M / 15.3M Per Year **His age and medical concerns will be a factor**


PLAYERLENGTHVALUEAVG. SALARYAGE WHEN SIGNED
AVERAGES4.3$70,000,000$16,470,58827.5
Lane Johnson (RT) EAGLES4$72,000,000$18,000,00029
Trenton Brown (RT) RAIDERS4$66,000,000$16,500,00025
Taylor Lewan (LT) TITANS5$80,000,000$16,000,00027
Nate Solder (LT) GIANTS4$62,000,000$15,500,00029
Taylor Lewan is the highest paid NFL LT at the moment. His contract in general terms breaks down as follows:

CONTRACT TERMS: 5 YRS / $80,000,000SIGNING BONUS: $11,000,000AVERAGE SALARY: $16,000,000GTD AT SIGNING: $34,000,000TOTAL GTD: $50,000,000FREE AGENT:
2024 / UFA
If I could move Tunsil to the Redskins in a trade for Trent Williams......the contract numbers should work out in the Texans favor. Not to mention, I'd push for a swap of RD3 picks. The Texans would get the Redskins RD3-02-66 and the Redskins would receive the Texans RD3-26-90 pick.


A major precursor, Cal and OB would have to get TW a new contract as part of the deal so they don't find themselves in the Tunsil situation come 2021.

In the bigger picture, getting TW's off the books when the Scharping would need a new deal could be great timing in 2022. Howard would come around in 2023. A new RG in the 2020 NFL Draft would come around in 2024. A new LT in the 2022 NFL Draft would be solid through 2027. Somewhere along the way a new Center would be brought on board. This could be a way to see the Texans keep their developed OL together.
Trent Williams is seeking a 20 million a year contract as well.
 

Texansballer74

Hall of Fame
Ok but that's what afford means in the larger context. They should have known what was coming this off-season.

Apparently, they didn't.

Remember when I said they were acting out of desperation? Getting rid of their GM like they did at the last moment. Bill O’Brien had to make some bold moves imo to keep his job. Plus the Patriots blocking our attempt to acquire ole buddy.


So of course they didn’t look into the future. A lot of their plans backfired.
 

OptimisticTexan

Hall of Fame
I think the bigger question the Texans should ask themselves; can we assemble enough talent fast enough to take advantage of the current players still playing under reasonable contracts, core players coming up for new contracts and Watt who might be done as a player in the next 2 seasons?

Personally, the Texans just weren't built in the proper manner. Whether it was Smith, Gain, or O'Brien's fault (actually it's all their faults).....this situation is not going to move forward favorably.

I just don't get the warm and fuzzies thinking about OB assembling the final pieces of the puzzle to push this team to the top. The Texans 2020 FA class is presenting its very own challenges and by 2021 the Texans FA class could prove to be a heartbreaker. When considering this, a team in the Texans shoes would lean heavily on the draft to plug holes but the Texans possess little draft capital to work with. At best, they'd be losing players and could only hope the COMP Pick scales lean in their favor......again, that's not the way to build or keep a team afloat.

No one could stop the Texans from following the Astros recipe and build from the bottom up. As I've mentioned on numerous occasions......this is a message board and all thoughts can be tabled as if we were all sitting around enjoying a beer and exchanging ideas. With that being said, I'd be behind a sell-off of talent while lining the coffers for 2020 and 2021 with as many draft picks as possible. If the Texans hired a mentor for Cal, a new GM, and a HC who could assemble a staff of successful teachers......then I'd be ok with rooting for a young team as they take their licks during the rebuilding process.

At the moment, the Texans are built to break our hearts and sink themselves deep enough in the draft that the measly few picks they have in 2020 and 2021 may prove to be wasted with an inexperienced GM and talent evaluator like OB calling the shots.

With the talent available in the 2020 NFL Draft.....a team like the Dolphins could really turn their team around with a solid draft. They could get ahead of the Texans in a hurry.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
He’s going to be paid big time. Hopefully he doesn’t turn out like Solders and Brown. Both of these players didn’t perform up to those massive contracts they received. Two players a few on here wanted so badly.
Brown performed well until he got hurt.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Tunsil and his agent may want 20M per year on a 5 year deal but his 2021 Market Value per Sportrac has him at:

5 Years / 91M / 18.2M Per Year

Trent Williams on the other hand would come cheaper and on a shorter contract. His 2021 Market Value per Sportrac has him at:

3 Years / 46M / 15.3M Per Year **His age and medical concerns will be a factor**


PLAYERLENGTHVALUEAVG. SALARYAGE WHEN SIGNED
AVERAGES4.3$70,000,000$16,470,58827.5
Lane Johnson (RT) EAGLES4$72,000,000$18,000,00029
Trenton Brown (RT) RAIDERS4$66,000,000$16,500,00025
Taylor Lewan (LT) TITANS5$80,000,000$16,000,00027
Nate Solder (LT) GIANTS4$62,000,000$15,500,00029
Taylor Lewan is the highest paid NFL LT at the moment. His contract in general terms breaks down as follows:

CONTRACT TERMS: 5 YRS / $80,000,000SIGNING BONUS: $11,000,000AVERAGE SALARY: $16,000,000GTD AT SIGNING: $34,000,000TOTAL GTD: $50,000,000FREE AGENT:
2024 / UFA
If I could move Tunsil to the Redskins in a trade for Trent Williams......the contract numbers should work out in the Texans favor. Not to mention, I'd push for a swap of RD3 picks. The Texans would get the Redskins RD3-02-66 and the Redskins would receive the Texans RD3-26-90 pick.


A major precursor, Cal and OB would have to get TW a new contract as part of the deal so they don't find themselves in the Tunsil situation come 2021.

In the bigger picture, getting TW's off the books when the Scharping would need a new deal could be great timing in 2022. Howard would come around in 2023. A new RG in the 2020 NFL Draft would come around in 2024. A new LT in the 2022 NFL Draft would be solid through 2027. Somewhere along the way a new Center would be brought on board. This could be a way to see the Texans keep their developed OL together.
I like your thinking but I would not trade Tunsil for TWill and only swap 3rd round pick. Tunsil value much higher. I need 1.2 somehow in that swap. A larger overall deal as I've discussed would bring 1.2 and 3.66 plus Haskins for Tunsil plus a WR like Will Fuller would get my attention.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
I'm rubber and you are glue. What bounces off me sticks to you! My daddy's bigger than yours. I'm not you are! Mom, he's looking at me!


Whoops. Slipped back into first grade for a minute..carry on.
 

ArlingtonTexan

Moderator
Staff member


Top