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Welcome to Houston Aireontae Ersery

Porky said:
I say it. And the proof is in the pudding. He was about to give up a bounty to NE for no particular reason. The consensus was around 70-80 for Ersery. They tried to trade up to 48. They ended up making another deal at 58. Would he have lasted to 78? We’ll never know. But we do know that the trade to 48 was an overpay, and that he could have been had at 58 at worst…because thats exactly what happened.
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Within reason, as long as Caserio got his guys where he did, then it's not an overpay.
 
Porky said:
I say it. And the proof is in the pudding. He was about to give up a bounty to NE for no particular reason. The consensus was around 70-80 for Ersery. They tried to trade up to 48. They ended up making another deal at 58. Would he have lasted to 78? We’ll never know. But we do know that the trade to 48 was an overpay, and that he could have been had at 58 at worst…because thats exactly what happened.
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But that’s only if we believe it’s for Ersery which is just people blowing smoke. We’ll never truly know who it was for but my personal belief is that they wanted to get Henderson who the Patriots used that pick on anyway.
 
Sweech said:
But that’s only if we believe it’s for Ersery which is just people blowing smoke. We’ll never truly know who it was for but my personal belief is that they wanted to get Henderson who the Patriots used that pick on anyway.
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I saw Stoots suggest that, but I don't really buy that Caserio would get a RB that high in the 2nd, let alone trade that many picks to do so.

It also doesn't make sense that you try to make a trade for a player to the team that drafted him.
 
Sweech said:
But that’s only if we believe it’s for Ersery which is just people blowing smoke. We’ll never truly know who it was for but my personal belief is that they wanted to get Henderson who the Patriots used that pick on anyway.
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If you believe Jonathan Alexander, it was Ersery. When either JA or AW report something you can take it to the bank.
 
Porky said:
If you believe Jonathan Alexander, it was Ersery. When either JA or AW report something you can take it to the bank.
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Understandable but I still don’t know if his report is from Caserios mouth or just from his own supposition. I understand Alexander isn’t a BS artist but it’s also the downtime of the season where people’s ideas and supposition get played through the telephone game as if they’re hard honest truths.
cland said:
I saw Stoots suggest that, but I don't really buy that Caserio would get a RB that high in the 2nd, let alone trade that many picks to do so.

It also doesn't make sense that you try to make a trade for a player to the team that drafted him.
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It does make sense if the team that you offered a treasure trove to decides to turn it down and select said player.

I also would not at all be surprised if we took a RB specifically with Henderson’s skillset that high in the second when Nick then took the dollar store option later by giving up a solid draft capital haul to do so.
 
Sweech said:
It does make sense if the team that you offered a treasure trove to decides to turn it down and select said player.

I also would not at all be surprised if we took a RB specifically with Henderson’s skillset that high in the second when Nick then took the dollar store option later by giving up a solid draft capital haul to do so.
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Think that statement that needs some rewording. Not sure where you're going there.

IMO it makes more sense building an Oline, rather than throwing another running back at the problem, particularly because Mixon has 2 years left.
 
cland said:
Think that statement that needs some rewording. Not sure where you're going there.

IMO it makes more sense building an Oline, rather than throwing another running back at the problem, particularly because Mixon has 2 years left.
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My statement is looking at it from the Patriots’ perspective. They turned down a massive haul because it was for the player that they themselves coveted.

I agree in theory you build the offensive line but from the Texans’ own mouths they believe this line is much better than everyone else does. I think they’re bad at self scouting it but that seems to be their own personal belief on the matter.

Also we all believed it was the interior that needed addressing and they didn’t whatsoever.

I still fully believe that RB was (and is) a need and one that they were looking to address in a very deep RB class.
 
cland said:
Think that statement that needs some rewording. Not sure where you're going there.

IMO it makes more sense building an Oline, rather than throwing another running back at the problem, particularly because Mixon has 2 years left.
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Pre-draft I thought WR was highest priority need (x2) then OL preferably a LT who could play LG a year then replace Robinson. Next priority was a cornerback and then a RB.
Also, I wanted Nick to trade out of 25 if Conerly wasn't the guy and pick up another round two with either the Jets or the Giants and my preference was the Giants as I expected Sanders to go to the Jets top of round two.

I like Ersery but did not think Nick would go that way as he is a pure left tackle and we needed to resolve left guard. I also said quite early that Nick would keep Howard at left tackle and probably Scruggs at Right Guard.

I think Nick saw the value of Ersery replacing Tunsil and winning fans of our former blind side much less expensively with fewer false starts.
I think we are set at center with Patterson but our OGs and their backups do not thrill me.
 
Porky said:
If you believe Jonathan Alexander, it was Ersery. When either JA or AW report something you can take it to the bank.
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Who is AW?

Ersery was the #45 prospect on the consensus mock draft that you liked,

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The site I have the mpst confidence in regarding the draft is The Athletic, with Dane Brugler as their main draft guru. He had Ersery as the #37 prospect.

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So, most felt Ersery would go in the area the Texans drafted him
 
Lucky said:
Who is AW?

Ersery was the #45 prospect on the consensus mock draft that you liked,



The site I have the mpst confidence in regarding the draft is The Athletic, with Dane Brugler as their main draft guru. He had Ersery as the #37 prospect.



So, most felt Ersery would go in the area the Texans drafted him
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Sorry, AW = Aaron Wilson. Alexander and Wilson are completely plugged in with the Texans. If they speak it, you can trust its true. They dont BS or speculate with these types of items. Its either first-hand or corroborated close second hand sourced info. If they do speculate - its presented as such. If its presented as fact..its sourced fact.

As far as the rest of your post - you are correct. Spot on. I was 100% wrong. I started to post a mea culpa but didnt. Honestly, i had a major math fart that day. All my numbers were way off. I dont know where my mind was. Can your mind have a math stroke? Its like i couldnt do math or think about numbers correctly. Weirdest ****!

Thanks for setting me straight Lucky. Again- you are correct and i was wrong. Have a great day. 😊
 
Porky said:
Sorry, AW = Aaron Wilson.
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I know who Aaron Wilson is. My old brain couldn't go through the rolodex of Texans writers names. I knew JA was Jason Alexander because his name was listed a few posts earlier.

There are so many sites that comment on the Texans. Which I like. But it's difficult for me to keep them straight or know whom is trustworthy. You know Alexander and Wilson have access and are repotting what they are being told. There are probably others, I just don't know their names.
 
Porky said:
Sorry, AW = Aaron Wilson. Alexander and Wilson are completely plugged in with the Texans. If they speak it, you can trust its true. They dont BS or speculate with these types of items. Its either first-hand or corroborated close second hand sourced info. If they do speculate - its presented as such. If its presented as fact..its sourced fact.

As far as the rest of your post - you are correct. Spot on. I was 100% wrong. I started to post a mea culpa but didnt. Honestly, i had a major math fart that day. All my numbers were way off. I dont know where my mind was. Can your mind have a math stroke? Its like i couldnt do math or think about numbers correctly. Weirdest ****!

Thanks for setting me straight Lucky. Again- you are correct and i was wrong. Have a great day. 😊
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I do that thar arithmetic pretty dang good but those mathematics fairly troublesome. Those otremies.. geo and trigo something; well I stay away..Who cares about 2 trains leaving different coasts and running into each other? Nobody rides trains anymore and that's why!
 
Lucky said:
This had me spitting up laughing. Partially because I'm not sure if you're joking or serious.
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My serious life is a joke. Mathematics of any type has always been difficult for me. My mother finally threw away the multiplication flashcards as they were hopeless. Anyone remember the Elvis Presley movie Follow That Dream? I did pretty good till I got up to my nines times nines.
 
JB said:
Do we Know that Ersery was who they were trying to trade up for?
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Sweech said:
But that’s only if we believe it’s for Ersery which is just people blowing smoke. We’ll never truly know who it was for but my personal belief is that they wanted to get Henderson who the Patriots used that pick on anyway.
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I know some people have already weighed in, but put me in the "this may not be true" camp. I've heard the arguments and the reasons why people think this is good intel, but there are equally good reasons that the organization would lie about this. I think the biggest reason would to embolden Ersery and make him feel like "they wanted me all along" instead of just taking BPA. How do you think that would make a pick like Ersery (who's from KC, family roots for KC and got passed over by the Chiefs) feel or think about the organization if the Texans said "Yeah...we wanted Henderson, but we settled for Ersery."

I think from an internal and external PR standpoint, they had to say this publicly.
 
Again, C- Patterson, RG- Scruggs, and RT- Fisher had a nice transition to OL positions they were not projected to be playing in the 2024 camp’s.

They have cut their teeth in these positions at different times last season, but the time they were all starting against the Titans in WK18….Pierce had his career day primarily getting his yardage behind Patterson, Scruggs, and Fisher.

I’m looking forward to these guys coming into this years camp already assigned to these positions.

I’m beginning to feel like Ersery will replace Robinson at LT sooner than later…especially if he holds up well in camp against the likes of Hunter, Anderson, and Barrett. Best barometer in the world in my book.

I’m really looking forward to the battle for the starting LG job. Howard is not and never will be the answer at any position along the Texans OL. There’s just too much veteran talent in camp to not find an answer at LG.

Camp can’t get here soon enough to finally get this OL sorted out b/c bottom line….it’s going to be the determining factor in he overall success of the Texans this season and going forward.
 
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House of Pain said:
I know some people have already weighed in, but put me in the "this may not be true" camp. I've heard the arguments and the reasons why people think this is good intel, but there are equally good reasons that the organization would lie about this. I think the biggest reason would to embolden Ersery and make him feel like "they wanted me all along" instead of just taking BPA. How do you think that would make a pick like Ersery (who's from KC, family roots for KC and got passed over by the Chiefs) feel or think about the organization if the Texans said "Yeah...we wanted Henderson, but we settled for Ersery."

I think from an internal and external PR standpoint, they had to say this publicly.
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Nobody really knows short of the FO, but they did trade up to get him. So it's certainly not sitting still and taking BPA.

At the end of the day, they traded their left tackle and signed a Vet on a 1 year deal. So there clearly is a team need at LT. And again, they traded up to get him so clearly he was targeted.

Also remember we only know of the two attempts. It's very likely there were more failed trade offers in the 10 picks between where we know they tried to trade up and when they successfully did and selected him.
 
KoolAid Sipper said:
Total deal is worth $9,211,646

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Texans agree to terms with second-round OT Aireontae Ersery

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I can't help but chuckle that we started the whole second-round signing crisis. Part of me hopes we fully guaranteed Ersery's contract just to make the agents above him (who didn't) look bad. :thisbig:
 
Porky said:
Happy he is signed. I dont like guaranteed contracts when someone hasn't proven their value. Prove it…amd we’ll talk.
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That’s outdated thinking. 4 years 9 million… the guaranteed argument is quibbling over six figures. If Ersery is an average starter he’ll be making more than that per year on his second contract. The NFL and team can afford a few hundred k more guaranteed money to rookies.
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
That’s outdated thinking. 4 years 9 million… the guaranteed argument is quibbling over six figures. If Ersery is an average starter he’ll be making more than that per year on his second contract. The NFL and team can afford a few hundred k more guaranteed money to rookies.
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Essentially, 1st and 2nd round picks are already guaranteed the 1st three years of their rookie contract... partly because of their draft position but also due to the reality of the contract structure/signing bonus/etc... It almost never makes financial sense to cut a 1st or 2nd day pick unless they are on the last year of their deal. I would love for some NFL nerd to look up the numbers: what percentage of 2nd round picks are cut before their rookie deals are fully paid out? (I bet it is less than 5% under the past several CBAs- since the rookie cap was installed)
 
dalemurphy said:
Essentially, 1st and 2nd round picks are already guaranteed the 1st three years of their rookie contract... partly because of their draft position but also due to the reality of the contract structure/signing bonus/etc... It almost never makes financial sense to cut a 1st or 2nd day pick unless they are on the last year of their deal. I would love for some NFL nerd to look up the numbers: what percentage of 2nd round picks are cut before their rookie deals are fully paid out? (I bet it is less than 5% under the past several CBAs- since the rookie cap was installed)
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Trades don't count... and neither do "cuts." They would have to be cut and then clear waivers before they are no longer under the terms of their rookie contracts.
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
That’s outdated thinking. 4 years 9 million… the guaranteed argument is quibbling over six figures. If Ersery is an average starter he’ll be making more than that per year on his second contract. The NFL and team can afford a few hundred k more guaranteed money to rookies.
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Not the point. Its not the money. Its the pricipal. I realize we are fully into the era of the young entitled generation but Thats not how i was raised. I was raised that you put in the work first..then you get your reward. This is bass ackwards. If it was me…i would not accept it. My Dad would kick my ass. He would say show them…then get rewarded.
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
That’s outdated thinking. 4 years 9 million… the guaranteed argument is quibbling over six figures. If Ersery is an average starter he’ll be making more than that per year on his second contract. The NFL and team can afford a few hundred k more guaranteed money to rookies.
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It sets a bad precedent.
 
Porky said:
Not the point. Its not the money. Its the pricipal. I realize we are fully into the era of the young entitled generation but Thats not how i was raised. I was raised that you put in the work first..then you get your reward. This is bass ackwards. If it was me…i would not accept it. My Dad would kick my ass. He would say show them…then get rewarded.
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They put in the work in college correct? Well let’s say a kid just graduated with a petroleum engineering degree. Does Exxon hire/ pay him because he put in the work?
 
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steelbtexan said:
It sets a bad precedent.
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The league can handle it. They are making money hand over fist and as posted earlier a relatively small number of players wont reach that guaranteed difference due to being cut anyway.

Did every team give their QBs a fully guaranteed contract after WD40 swindled the Browns? No, because it was stupid at the time and stupid now. This isn’t 50 million + guaranteed, we’re talking around 800k which is peanuts for these owners.
 
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