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Week 9 Gameday: Texans at Jaguars

There is no excuse for Bradford not catching that pass. The ball hit him right in the hands. Just like a lot of you complain about the Texas receivers dropping balls thrown by Vince Young, Bradford is no different and should have caught that.
 
stevo3883 said:
are you serious?

Carr threw an absolutely perfect pass hit bradford in stride in the hands and he dropped it.


AND YOU ARE BASHING CARR????

give me a f'n break!
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tulexan said:
There is no excuse for Bradford not catching that pass. The ball hit him right in the hands. Just like a lot of you complain about the Texas receivers dropping balls thrown by Vince Young, Bradford is no different and should have caught that.
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Yes Bradford should have. But throwing deep to your most inconsisent pass catcher isnt the thing to do on 4th down. You do that on 1st down. On fourth down, you try to get the first down, which they would of had if the ball would have gone to AJ. Then you throw to Bradford on 1st and 10...
 
Everybody's been saying throw it deep, take a chance!

We did.

Man, that was close.
 
Fiddy said:
Yes Bradford should have. But throwing deep to your most inconsisent pass catcher isnt the thing to do on 4th down. You do that on 1st down. On fourth down, you try to get the first down, which they would of had if the ball would have gone to AJ. Then you throw to Bradford on 1st and 10...
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makes since to me.:texflag:
 
Fiddy said:
Yes Bradford should have. But throwing deep to your most inconsisent pass catcher isnt the thing to do on 4th down. You do that on 1st down. On fourth down, you try to get the first down, which they would of had if the ball would have gone to AJ. Then you throw to Bradford on 1st and 10...
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thats the thing to do if your not down by 7 with 30 sec left and no time outs. with 30 sec left and you got a guy deep that has beat the coverage you make the play.
 
You cannot blame Carr for Bradford's failure to make that catch. You can argue he should have gone to AJ, but it's only 1st and 10, not 1st and goal as it should have been if Bradford holds onto the ball that was in his hands from a great pass that Carr made. Carr can do nothing right in the eyes of some Texans fans it seems to me.
 
belars44 said:
This is year 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't want, nor expect a #1 pick period.........
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Well you're going to get it, so you should accept that.

Besides, the 1st pick is about the only highlight we are going to get from this year....besides a new coaching staff
 
Fiddy said:
You dont throw deep on 4th down at the end of a game...
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Only take a risk if there's no risk?

I'm glad we went for it and showed some guts. If only we had the guts to do that earlier in the "keep it close" phase of the game.
 
If Bradford catches that we have 30 seconds to move like 10 yards. If Carr makes the throw to AJ he more than likely is tackled in the middle of the field and we have 30 seconds to move 30 yards with no time outs. Carr made the gutsy decision, he made the perfect pass into difficult coverage, and Bradford drops the ball. Carr wasn't perfect today, but he played well. Our defense let the Jaguars score on two crucial drives. I think our defense just didn't make the plays today when we needed them to. If Payne doesn't get called for defensive holding, or if Bradford makes that catch, things could've turned out differently. Also, the play of our offensive line before Hodgdon was injured gives me some hope for next week.
 
lol, AJ got more yds in that game than the whole season... maybe if we open up the playbook and our o-line gets healthy, we might look like an NFL offense.
 
Vinny, I think you're wrong here, sorry to say. If Bradford had made the catch, people would be saying congratulations. Bradford had a step, the safety came over late. It wasn't really double coverage. Bradford should have caught that. Johnson was right over the middle. If he hadnt been able to make it out of bounds, we would be on the 40 something with about 25 seconds left. Not a good situation. It was Carr's decision, he made a good one, and his team let him down. Bashing him for not getting the 7 yard gain is showing some poor football knowledge.
 
Runner said:
Only take a risk if there's no risk?

I'm glad we went for it and showed some guts. If only we had the guts to do that earlier in the "keep it close" phase of the game.
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Perfectly said.

Had that throw been completed Carr would have been a hero, and many would have said the right call was made because there wasn't enough time to throw it over the middle for a short completion.

But it wasn't caught, Carr is a scapegoat, and Bradford is just Bradford.
 
gtexan02 said:
Vinny, I think you're wrong here, sorry to say. If Bradford had made the catch, people would be saying congratulations.
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Bradford has a trend of dropping passes...at least I think I've seen it in the 4 years I've been watching this. You get the first down there. That was a great pass for a 3rd down..but not 4th.
 
Defense didn't play well enough IMO. Wilford really did a number on us today. Most of our games with the jags have been won by us playing great defense. It just wasn't good enough today.

And Bradford needs to make that catch. It doesn't matter how well you play through the whole game, it's all about making plays when you have to. It never seems that we are very good at that. I don't care how well you play 58 minutes of the game, if you can't make a play on the last 2, you can't be a winning football team.
 
Vinny said:
4-9-JAC42 (:54) (Shotgun) D.Carr pass incomplete to C.Bradford. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay/NFL_20051106_HOU@JAC

That play started with nearly a full min on the clock. You get the first down and give yourself a shot.
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by the time we got back to the line there would not of been much time left. around 30 sec. unless he could of got out of bounds. which looking back at the play andre probably could have. but carr had no way to know that.
that was our shot.
 
minus that crap badford did right there, carr trusted him enough earlier in the game to make some catches.

he had a legit reason to go to him
 
Vinny said:
Bradford has a trend of dropping passes...at least I think I've seen it in the 4 years I've been watching this. You get the first down there. That was a great pass for a 3rd down..but not 4th.
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its any given sunday where a player steps up. corey had a td and several other receptions that let carr trust him a little more. but in the crunch, he didnt get it done.
 
Fiddy said:
You are giving yourself a better chance to win the game, what are you talking about???
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Uh, no... you are giving yourself a better chance to win when you place a perfect pass onto both of your receivers hands at the 2 yard line. A lousy first down with 35 seconds and 30 yards to go with the clock running seems a little bit tougher.
 
part of me says take the shot.. we have enough problems with our pass protection..

but normal circumstances ..i'd say get the 1st and keep going.. but we are talking about the Texans OL
 
TexSon said:
Uh, no... you are giving yourself a better chance to win when you place a perfect pass onto both of your receivers hands at the 2 yard line. A lousy first down with 35 seconds and 30 yards to go with the clock running seems a little bit tougher.
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Did you see what we were doing the whole game??? We were throwing hitches and curls towards the sideline. You spike the ball after the AJ first down and then you do what you have done all game but instead of fighting for extra yards, the WRs need to get out of bounds.

And if Carr did throw to AJ, AJ wouldnt have been tackled and could have ran out of bounds...
 
Fiddy said:
Did you see what we were doing the whole game??? We were throwing hitches and curls towards the sideline. You spike the ball after the AJ first down and then you do what you have done all game but instead of fighting for extra yards, the WRs need to get out of bounds.

And if Carr did throw to AJ, AJ wouldnt have been tackled and could have ran out of bounds...
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Except of course our receivers were NOT getting out of bounds on the last drive, we had nervous lineman false starting and holding, and we never win with the keep it close and don't take any chances philosophy of Capers. You really think we would be able to matriculate the ball 30 more yards downfield in 30 seconds for the touchdown? Have we ever done that?
The bottom line is Carr saw an opportunity to win the game and put a superb pass in Bradford's hands. Bradford drops it and it is somehow Carr's fault.

And I'm no Carr apologist, he has lots of problems with his game... but that pass was not one of them.
 
Vinny said:
AJ was a high % pass. That lob to Bradford is a low % pass. This was 4th down. it killed the game.
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Vinny, come on! It was probably his first read and he read it correctly. Bradford was open and Carr put it right there in his hands. Other than Bradford, the only fault for that play belongs to the coaching staff who continue to allow him on the field.
 
I can't believe people are ripping Carr for the pass at the end of the game. He made a perfect pass into the hands of Bradford and the pass was dropped. The ball landed in his hands, he started bringing it into his body, and then he let the ball get away.

It was a perfect throw. End of story.
 
sakebomb said:
I can't believe people are ripping Carr for the pass at the end of the game.
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Same here, it's unbelieveable. All the people saying that he should have thrown to AJ, are speaking purely on hindsight. As if they could have stepped in and done better. Was AJ open? Yes. Could Carr have hit AJ for a big gain? Possibly. Does any of that mean that Carr throwing to Bradford was wrong? No. Even if AJ and every other WR was open, Bradford was open too. Great throw, horrible drop.

TexSon said it best: ''And I'm no Carr apologist, he has lots of problems with his game... but that pass was not one of them.''
 
Yeah, I'm not going to rip Carr off on that pass either. Actually, I'm glad he just got the pass off, because there was a whole lot of pressure coming his way. Kinda sad that I'm saying this but I'm glad the game didn't end on a sack like the Bengals game. :rolleyes:

And dammit Bradford! C'MON!
 
im actually happy to see Carr going for the win. Id rather have that aggressive style of football. It was his best option (bradford being open)...bradford had it BUT dropped it. Carr in my opinion played his best game of the year. The line even looked good (before Hodgen got injured).

DD not being there was a small factor in this game in my opinion.

The big factor was us NOT having Mathis. If we had Mathis, we had this game.

It is amazing what having AJ did for us in the passing game today. It opened lots of stuff up. When can you honestly say youve seen this much passing from the texans. Besides audibles, I actually didnt know what play they were going to run.

Good job today Texans. P.S. Thanks for beating the spread - you made me money two weeks in a row!
 
Mathis and DD in this game....then IMO, we win. That was a VERY good toss to Mr. Hands of Stone. Carr can't go catch it for him.
 
Vinny said:
4-9-JAC42 (:54) (Shotgun) D.Carr pass incomplete to C.Bradford. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay/NFL_20051106_HOU@JAC

That play started with nearly a full min on the clock. You get the first down and give yourself a shot.
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I couldn't agree with you more Vinny. It reminded me of the Oilers at Denver in the playoffs when the game came down to something like needing 2 yards for a first. Kevin Gilbride has Moon throw a bomb for the endzone and we lose the game. Get the friggin first down.
 
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