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Week 8 vs Aaron Donald

Number19

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He wasn't under pressure in the 1st half, he just wasn't pushing the ball. Either by design or mindset, he was just throwing short.
I disagree. He wasn't under pressure every pass play, but he did have pressure and was sacked at least once. He also had, I believe, at least 3 nice passes downfield.

Just rewatched the 1st half:

Mills had 14 pass attempts in the 1st half.

In the 1st Q he had 3 attempts, with one under pressure for a 9 yd completion. One was a screen pass for a completion. One he had no pressure for a 9 yd completion.

In the 2nd Q he had 11 attempts.

#4 was at the 4 yd line; he was standing in the end zone. Quick pass for zero yds.
#5 was a screen pass for a 9 yd completion.
#6 was an incompletion. There was no DL pressure but a CB blitzer was coming in on his right. He got the ball off in 2 seconds for the incompletion.
#7 the pocket collapsed and under pressure he threw his interception.
#8 there was no pressure. He passed to Collins for 26 yds.
#9 he was under pressure from the blitz. Incomplete.
#10 the pocket collapsed for a sack.
#11 with 23 seconds left. 2 receivers went deep on left. 1 receiver short on right. No pressure at 21 seconds as he looks left. Receivers are covered. Rolls right at 19 seconds and is under pressure. Throws ball away.
#12 with 17 seconds left. No pressure. 19 yd completion to Akins.
#13 with 10 seconds left. Pocket collapses and under pressure tries to throw ball away. Interception nullified by penalty.
#14 with 5 seconds left. 15 yd completion to Collins.
 

Number19

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I hear you, but it's hard to judge an OL with a rookie calling protection. Not that our guys don't suck, but when they pick up 2 out of 5, you know there was a communication problem.

I don't know if it's between the QB & the line or between one lineman to the next.
On this particular play Mills rolled right. All three rushers putting pressure were on the right. The LT and LG had their opponents blocked.
 

leebigeztx

Keep it Movin!
The OL couldn't move people in the run game and Mills wasn't well protected.

Donald/Floyd etc... controlled the LOS.
I disagree. He wasn't under pressure every pass play, but he did have pressure and was sacked at least once. He also had, I believe, at least 3 nice passes downfield.

Just rewatched the 1st half:

Mills had 14 pass attempts in the 1st half.

In the 1st Q he had 3 attempts, with one under pressure for a 9 yd completion. One was a screen pass for a completion. One he had no pressure for a 9 yd completion.

In the 2nd Q he had 11 attempts.

#4 was at the 4 yd line; he was standing in the end zone. Quick pass for zero yds.
#5 was a screen pass for a 9 yd completion.
#6 was an incompletion. There was no DL pressure but a CB blitzer was coming in on his right. He got the ball off in 2 seconds for the incompletion.
#7 the pocket collapsed and under pressure he threw his interception.
#8 there was no pressure. He passed to Collins for 26 yds.
#9 he was under pressure from the blitz. Incomplete.
#10 the pocket collapsed for a sack.
#11 with 23 seconds left. 2 receivers went deep on left. 1 receiver short on right. No pressure at 21 seconds as he looks left. Receivers are covered. Rolls right at 19 seconds and is under pressure. Throws ball away.
#12 with 17 seconds left. No pressure. 19 yd completion to Akins.
#13 with 10 seconds left. Pocket collapses and under pressure tries to throw ball away. Interception nullified by penalty.
#14 with 5 seconds left. 15 yd completion to Collins.
I guess I was watching the wrong game. I left at halftime because the offense is garbage. When the pocket was a little muddy, it was a checkdown. I didn't even know Donald or Floyd played in the 1st half.
 

Number19

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I would be good with trading out of 1-1. If the team I was trading out with was looking for a QB. I really want 1 of Thibodeaux/Hutchinson or Stingley. I think they're the best 3 players in this draft. With that said if they traded down to say 7-10 range and those guys were gone I would be very happy to bring Kenyon Green home. That guys a stud. Put him with a guy like Linerbaum with a healthy Tunsil/Heck and you wouldn't be seeing the crap we saw today.
I think it possible, with Taylor starting, we could play ourselves out of the top picks. It's possible Mills may do it. We have the weak part of our schedule coming up. We may win 2 or 3 or 4 games.
 

steelbtexan

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I guess I was watching the wrong game. I left at halftime because the offense is garbage. When the pocket was a little muddy, it was a checkdown. I didn't even know Donald or Floyd played in the 1st half.
The Rams defense had 5 sacks and the Texans couldn't run the ball against the Rams 1st team defense. So I'm not sure which game you were watching either.
 

steelbtexan

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I think it possible, with Taylor starting, we could play ourselves out of the top picks. It's possible Mills may do it. We have the weak part of our schedule coming up. We may win 2 or 3 or 4 games.
I said 4 games at the beginning of the season.

Let's see who gets traded, that could change the number.

Right now I've got Miami/Jags and 1 game that a team that's in the playoffs is resting their guys.
 

SnakeEyes

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I'm looking at another pass play, the first play of the 4th Q. The Rams are rushing 5 players and I see 3 that wasn't blocked. Mills got the pass off for a short completion, but good grief, our OL!
Yes I agree but how much is on Pep not getting Mills prepared for more than just check down stuff? I think 1/2 OL and 1/2 QB coach/OC not having a game plan that works for 4 quarters...and lack of half time adjustment
 

thunderkyss

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Yes I agree but how much is on Pep not getting Mills prepared for more than just check down stuff? I think 1/2 OL and 1/2 QB coach/OC not having a game plan that works for 4 quarters...and lack of half time adjustment
I don't think he is not prepared. He showed that he is prepared for more than check down stuff against less than premier players. He played 12 college games. He's not ready. Hopefully he'll take a huge step before the 2022 season & he can play against first teamers.
 

sandman

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I don't think he is not prepared. He showed that he is prepared for more than check down stuff against less than premier players. He played 12 college games. He's not ready. Hopefully he'll take a huge step before the 2022 season & he can play against first teamers.
Yep. Not being ready is different than not being prepared.

It is entirely possible to objectively recognize the gauntlet of good defenses he had to face while also recognizing that he isn't fully ready and needs improvement/development. It isn't an either/or situation for those around here who can only see everything in a binary black/white Monday Morning QB viewpoint.
 

banned1976

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I think it possible, with Taylor starting, we could play ourselves out of the top picks. It's possible Mills may do it. We have the weak part of our schedule coming up. We may win 2 or 3 or 4 games.
I agree with you that the Texans could win a handful of games last half of the season and even by dropping out of the top 5 I believe they could land another pass rusher to pair with Greenard. That is absolutely where I would start the rebuild. A physical, mean defensive line to punish opposing offenses.
 

Number19

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I agree with you that the Texans could win a handful of games last half of the season and even by dropping out of the top 5 I believe they could land another pass rusher to pair with Greenard. That is absolutely where I would start the rebuild. A physical, mean defensive line to punish opposing offenses.
You and Steelb would go defense. I wouldn't be disappointed, but if things fell right, I'd prefer offense.
 

leebigeztx

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I disagree. He wasn't under pressure every pass play, but he did have pressure and was sacked at least once. He also had, I believe, at least 3 nice passes downfield.

Just rewatched the 1st half:

Mills had 14 pass attempts in the 1st half.

In the 1st Q he had 3 attempts, with one under pressure for a 9 yd completion. One was a screen pass for a completion. One he had no pressure for a 9 yd completion.

In the 2nd Q he had 11 attempts.

#4 was at the 4 yd line; he was standing in the end zone. Quick pass for zero yds.
#5 was a screen pass for a 9 yd completion.
#6 was an incompletion. There was no DL pressure but a CB blitzer was coming in on his right. He got the ball off in 2 seconds for the incompletion.
#7 the pocket collapsed and under pressure he threw his interception.
#8 there was no pressure. He passed to Collins for 26 yds.
#9 he was under pressure from the blitz. Incomplete.
#10 the pocket collapsed for a sack.
#11 with 23 seconds left. 2 receivers went deep on left. 1 receiver short on right. No pressure at 21 seconds as he looks left. Receivers are covered. Rolls right at 19 seconds and is under pressure. Throws ball away.
#12 with 17 seconds left. No pressure. 19 yd completion to Akins.
#13 with 10 seconds left. Pocket collapses and under pressure tries to throw ball away. Interception nullified by penalty.
#14 with 5 seconds left. 15 yd completion to Collins.
The Rams defense had 5 sacks and the Texans couldn't run the ball against the Rams 1st team defense. So I'm not sure which game you were watching either.
By scheme or direction, he had plays in his face in the 1st half. The offense is so inept, but the oline was protecting better than what Watson had to start his career. It was any jailbreak
 

steelbtexan

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By scheme or direction, he had plays in his face in the 1st half. The offense is so inept, but the oline was protecting better than what Watson had to start his career. It was any jailbreak
If you say so.

It looks alot like the ol Carr/Derrick played behind as rookies and we all know how that turned out.

Bottom line is there's not time for routes to develop down field and there's no run game.
 

steelbtexan

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You and Steelb would go defense. I wouldn't be disappointed, but if things fell right, I'd prefer offense.
You really can't go wrong either way. You could trade down to say 8 and draft Kenyon Green. Then draft a guy like the Arkansas C Stromberg at the to of the 3rd and the OL would look alot better. These are 2 big strong guys that can move. Then use the extra 2nds on a pass rusher like Tyreek Smith and a CB like Emerson. You could do this without even counting what you might get if you can trade Derrick.

I just think Thibodeaux and Stingley are generational players and I don't want to pass on that type of talent. But there's certainly a case to be made for doing things the way you are wanting them to be done.
 

SnakeEyes

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You and Steelb would go defense. I wouldn't be disappointed, but if things fell right, I'd prefer offense.
Top 5 pick, I would go edge/DE/OLB. We don't have any amazing force on the DL. After that, I would look at a DB. Past those 2 positions I would then go with BPA
 

Mr teX

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Our LB’s are TERRIBLE and in Lovie’s defense the Lb’s play a huge role. They’re the primary reason we stink against the run.

but the talent deficit on offense is so bad…you almost have to go offense with the 1st pick…Mills or whomever is under center needs protection…
 

steelbtexan

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Our LB’s are TERRIBLE and in Lovie’s defense the Lb’s play a huge role. They’re the primary reason we stink against the run.

but the talent deficit on offense is so bad…you almost have to go offense with the 1st pick…Mills or whomever is under center needs protection…
If Caserio goes OL I hope he trades down. I think if the Texans finish with a top 3 pick they get one of Stingley/Hutchinson/Thibodeaux. Then hit the OL hard. Since this is a great edge draft, I could actually see Caserio trading down.
 

SnakeEyes

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If Caserio goes OL I hope he trades down. I think if the Texans finish with a top 3 pick they get one of Stingley/Hutchinson/Thibodeaux. Then hit the OL hard. Since this is a great edge draft, I could actually see Caserio trading down.
I won't trade a top 5 if Thibodaux is gone. Yes, I think he is going to be that good and dislike A&M. That says it all. After him, I say trade say #4 pick for picks 10, 20 first round picks and a early or mid 2nd. It could be very smart to get more 1st round talent and early 2nd vs only 1 pick and 1 shot at the 1st round
 

SnakeEyes

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a QB can not move a team forward without an OL to at lease allow a 1.5 sec for release a pass
That's a fact. I can't see any QB not having to dump it off when the OL is crumbling in front of them. Watching the replays I would have to say 1/2 off the game the OL was decent. However, the other 1/2 if Mills didn't just fire it to the first eligible player he was going to get destroyed by the DL. While many people have said he is a dink and dunk guy, I know of a guy who plays a lot of dink and dunk and he has done fine. His name is Brady. Brady is not a 50yrd strike guy. He tends to throw 20yrds max and let the pass catchers get yac. Not saying Mills is Brady, just that Brady has done under 20yrd passes about 1/2 his career. He is also a guy who is going to toss screens a bunch. I think NE was more of a receiver getting YAC in Bradys tenure than anything. True, over his career Brady showed he can air it out and with his arm strength (likely) higher than Brady. I feel Mills with protection can make some very good plays. But, we will have to wait for a good OL to find out
 

76Texan

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That's a fact. I can't see any QB not having to dump it off when the OL is crumbling in front of them. Watching the replays I would have to say 1/2 off the game the OL was decent. However, the other 1/2 if Mills didn't just fire it to the first eligible player he was going to get destroyed by the DL. While many people have said he is a dink and dunk guy, I know of a guy who plays a lot of dink and dunk and he has done fine. His name is Brady. Brady is not a 50yrd strike guy. He tends to throw 20yrds max and let the pass catchers get yac. Not saying Mills is Brady, just that Brady has done under 20yrd passes about 1/2 his career. He is also a guy who is going to toss screens a bunch. I think NE was more of a receiver getting YAC in Bradys tenure than anything. True, over his career Brady showed he can air it out and with his arm strength (likely) higher than Brady. I feel Mills with protection can make some very good plays. But, we will have to wait for a good OL to find out
Hmmm, NO.


 

steelbtexan

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I wonder how long it took Dak to develop into the QB he is today and what kind of OL he played behind compared to the Texans current OL?

You cant run deep in patterns/crossing patterns if you dont have time to throw them.
 

SnakeEyes

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Hmmm, NO.


Yawn... If it is a positive response or you feel it is to anything Mills is/could do... you attack it.
 

Earl34

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I wonder how long it took Dak to develop into the QB he is today and what kind of OL he played behind compared to the Texans current OL?

You cant run deep in patterns/crossing patterns if you dont have time to throw them.
Out of curiosity. Why are you comparing the Texans current OL to the Cowboys? Until the last couple of years, the Cowboys had one of the league top rushing offenses and OL. Wasn't the knock on Dak was even with that OL, he couldn't win a game without Elliot having a big game.

Shouldn't you be comparing the current OL and running game to what it was under BO'B and the previous starting QB?
 

76Texan

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Yawn... If it is a positive response or you feel it is to anything Mills is/could do... you attack it.
Like I said.
I prefer not to have misinformation.
You claimed that Brady is a short game QB.
I give you the information to disprove it.
Why spin it again?
 

76Texan

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I wonder how long it took Dak to develop into the QB he is today and what kind of OL he played behind compared to the Texans current OL?

You cant run deep in patterns/crossing patterns if you dont have time to throw them.
Look at the second link in one my post above.
Brady not only was able to push it deep, but also quickly.
 

steelbtexan

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Out of curiosity. Why are you comparing the Texans current OL to the Cowboys? Until the last couple of years, the Cowboys had one of the league top rushing offenses and OL. Wasn't the knock on Dak was even with that OL, he couldn't win a game without Elliot having a big game.

Shouldn't you be comparing the current OL and running game to what it was under BO'B and the previous starting QB?
I'm comparing the the Cowboys OL when Dak was a rookie to the Texans current OL. Having a good OL allowed Dak to develop properly and it still took him 2=3 yrs to play at a very high level. Point is it takes time for young QB's to learn.
 

Number19

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Look at the second link in one my post above.
Brady not only was able to push it deep, but also quickly.
Yeh, I noticed Brady had 2.5 seconds on more than 60% of his passes. One of the games I charted Mills, he was consistantly under pressure/getting sacked at 2 seconds.

But thanks. I now understand that 2.5 seconds is considered quick.
 
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76Texan

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Yeh, I noticed Brady had 2.5 seconds on more than 60% of his passes. One of the games I charted Mills, he was consistantly under pressure/getting sacked at 2 seconds.

But thanks. I now understand that 2.5 seconds is considered quick.
While it's true that Mills were under pressure quite a bit, his average "Time to throw" is still higher than Brady's 2.5

In fact, Mills had more time than Tua.
2.61 vs. 2.55


Nobody was complaining about Mills when it was the fault of an olineman.

It was his plays otherwise that was criticized as subpar.
 

Earl34

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I'm comparing the the Cowboys OL when Dak was a rookie to the Texans current OL. Having a good OL allowed Dak to develop properly and it still took him 2=3 yrs to play at a very high level. Point is it takes time for young QB's to learn.
Agree it takes time for a young QB to learn. However, I still don't get the comparison to Dak and the Cowboys to make that point.

It's interesting to me the philosophical shift on this forum because an argument can be made that the Texans OL and running game has been below average for the past 3-4 years. However, now it's being noticed and we now realize it impacts the development of a young QB? Maybe drifting to the right was a survival instinct. :kitten:
 

Number19

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While it's true that Mills were under pressure quite a bit, his average "Time to throw" is still higher than Brady's 2.5

In fact, Mills had more time than Tua.
2.61 vs. 2.55


Nobody was complaining about Mills when it was the fault of an olineman.

It was his plays otherwise that was criticized as subpar.
Thanks for the link. I wasted a lot of time yesterday googling trying to find a site like this.

But you sure do slant the data to fit your narrative.

If I counted correctly, there were 35 qb's listed. There were only 3 with lower times than Mills: Brady, Roethlisberger and Tagovailoa.

So there 31 qb's with more time to throw. The average was 2.77.

I'd suggest there is a bias concerning Mills when you have expectations that he should be performing at a level with established veteran stars. He's a rookie with less than a season of starts.

I've charted two of Mills' games and what I've seen is certainly not as bad as some of the negativity posted. And this is not to say that there isn't plenty that can be improved on.

Just as an example, in today's Chroncle it says Mills is 31 in completions over 20 yds. What I'm more interested in is his completion rate with these longer passes. Just off the top of my head, I think his percentage rate is right there in the middle of the pack. I'm going to dive into this link you provided and see what I find. But if the game plan is limiting the number of deeper throws, you can't put this on Mills.

Yesterday I was looking at Mills' Air Yards per Completion and it was suggested I look at his number for Air Yards per Attempt.

But middle of the pack qb's with high AYA could have lower Completion% and lower overall AYC.

Here I am just rambling but I guess my point is, within the game plan that the coaches were putting on Mills, the coaches kept saying he was performing very well. My analysis of the statistics suggest this is an accurate assessment.
 

76Texan

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Thanks for the link. I wasted a lot of time yesterday googling trying to find a site like this.

But you sure do slant the data to fit your narrative.

If I counted correctly, there were 35 qb's listed. There were only 3 with lower times than Mills: Brady, Roethlisberger and Tagovailoa.

So there 31 qb's with more time to throw. The average was 2.77.

I'd suggest there is a bias concerning Mills when you have expectations that he should be performing at a level with established veteran stars. He's a rookie with less than a season of starts.

I've charted two of Mills' games and what I've seen is certainly not as bad as some of the negativity posted. And this is not to say that there isn't plenty that can be improved on.

Just as an example, in today's Chroncle it says Mills is 31 in completions over 20 yds. What I'm more interested in is his completion rate with these longer passes. Just off the top of my head, I think his percentage rate is right there in the middle of the pack. I'm going to dive into this link you provided and see what I find. But if the game plan is limiting the number of deeper throws, you can't put this on Mills.

Yesterday I was looking at Mills' Air Yards per Completion and it was suggested I look at his number for Air Yards per Attempt.

But middle of the pack qb's with high AYA could have lower Completion% and lower overall AYC.

Here I am just rambling but I guess my point is, within the game plan that the coaches were putting on Mills, the coaches kept saying he was performing very well. My analysis of the statistics suggest this is an accurate assessment.
You're right that the game plan called for a lot of quick passes.
(And that's another reason why Mill's time to throw is low).

Play action passes take longer, but since Mills' ball fake still needs a lot of work, they didn't use it as much (I think).

The year that the team formerly known as Redskins employee the most play action pass in the league, RG III's TT was way up there.

Also, a scrambling QB like Watson and Wilson could take longer to throw.
(But that vary from year to year as you can see that Wilson's TT this year is lower than in years past).

Big Ben, if I remember correctly, used to have longer TT but it seems like he had lost his ability to maneuver around so now he resorts to quicker throw.
 

steelbtexan

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Agree it takes time for a young QB to learn. However, I still don't get the comparison to Dak and the Cowboys to make that point.

It's interesting to me the philosophical shift on this forum because an argument can be made that the Texans OL and running game has been below average for the past 3-4 years. However, now it's being noticed and we now realize it impacts the development of a young QB? Maybe drifting to the right was a survival instinct. :kitten:
The point is we dont know if Mills can throw some of the longer routes because he hasn't had time to let the routes develop and deliver the ball. There's a big difference between a guy playing QB his 3rd yr in the league and a rookie QB that hasn't yet made 20 starts including both college and the pro's.

If you're trying to compare Derrick to Mills (Which is what I think you're implying) then yes Derrick had a better rookie yr behind probably a worse OL. (If that's possible) What I want to see is like Derrick when the talent level improves around Mills and the NFL adjusts to Mills game, is Mills going to be able to adjust his game and make major improvements. (Something Derrick was only marginally able to do.) I know you disagree with this take, but Derrick got by on talent alone. Hopefully Mills or any other QB the Texans draft will be able to change their game as NFL defenses make adjustments to the QB's style of play.
 

SnakeEyes

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Like I said.
I prefer not to have misinformation.
You claimed that Brady is a short game QB.
I give you the information to disprove it.
Why spin it again?
No I said that that he was a master of dink and dunk and screens. And he is, many times he is dropping passes on target out to about 20yrds. I didn't have to say that Brady also has an amazing ability to hit recivers all over the feild. Because anyone who knows football knows how good he is. Side note: He is my favorite QB and he went to my favorite college ,which I was going to until knee injury, Michigan. So I have definitely watch both his college and NFL games. Sucks we lost to Michigan St last week hope we can get it back together this week vs Indiana.
 

steelbtexan

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Thanks for the link. I wasted a lot of time yesterday googling trying to find a site like this.

But you sure do slant the data to fit your narrative.

If I counted correctly, there were 35 qb's listed. There were only 3 with lower times than Mills: Brady, Roethlisberger and Tagovailoa.

So there 31 qb's with more time to throw. The average was 2.77.

I'd suggest there is a bias concerning Mills when you have expectations that he should be performing at a level with established veteran stars. He's a rookie with less than a season of starts.

I've charted two of Mills' games and what I've seen is certainly not as bad as some of the negativity posted. And this is not to say that there isn't plenty that can be improved on.

Just as an example, in today's Chroncle it says Mills is 31 in completions over 20 yds. What I'm more interested in is his completion rate with these longer passes. Just off the top of my head, I think his percentage rate is right there in the middle of the pack. I'm going to dive into this link you provided and see what I find. But if the game plan is limiting the number of deeper throws, you can't put this on Mills.

Yesterday I was looking at Mills' Air Yards per Completion and it was suggested I look at his number for Air Yards per Attempt.

But middle of the pack qb's with high AYA could have lower Completion% and lower overall AYC.

Here I am just rambling but I guess my point is, within the game plan that the coaches were putting on Mills, the coaches kept saying he was performing very well. My analysis of the statistics suggest this is an accurate assessment.
The AYA is going to be skewed somewhat due to the OL's inability to give the receivers time to run deeper routes. But this link is a good place to start your analysis.
 

steelbtexan

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No I said that that he was a master of dink and dunk and screens. And he is, many times he is dropping passes on target out to about 20yrds. I didn't have to say that Brady also has an amazing ability to hit recivers all over the feild. Because anyone who knows football knows how good he is. Side note: He is my favorite QB and he went to my favorite college ,which I was going to until knee injury, Michigan. So I have definitely watch both his college and NFL games. Sucks we lost to Michigan St last week hope we can get it back together this week vs Indiana.
I always felt Brady was better than Henson and didn't understand why Henson got the playing time he did over Brady. It seemed like Brady always had to bail out the team at the end of games after they fell behind with Henson at the helm.

Being a Michigan man, how do you feel about the job Harbagh's done.
 

Earl34

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The point is we dont know if Mills can throw some of the longer routes because he hasn't had time to let the routes develop and deliver the ball. There's a big difference between a guy playing QB his 3rd yr in the league and a rookie QB that hasn't yet made 20 starts including both college and the pro's.

If you're trying to compare Derrick to Mills (Which is what I think you're implying) then yes Derrick had a better rookie yr behind probably a worse OL. (If that's possible) What I want to see is like Derrick when the talent level improves around Mills and the NFL adjusts to Mills game, is Mills going to be able to adjust his game and make major improvements. (Something Derrick was only marginally able to do.) I know you disagree with this take, but Derrick got by on talent alone. Hopefully Mills or any other QB the Texans draft will be able to change their game as NFL defenses make adjustments to the QB's style of play.
That's a fair assessment and hopefully, Mills will have better coaching and scheme than Derrick. See, we didn't have to bring up the stinking Cowboys to make that point.
 

Number19

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Number19

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OK, just a quick check. Hope I got this correct.

Mills:
15-20 yds...7-13..1 TD..2 INT.......54%
>20 yds.....8-19..3 TD..1 INT.......42%

Fields:
15-20 yds...9-14....................64%
>20 yds.....4-18..1 INT.............22%

Jones:
15-20 yds...10-20..2 TD..1 INT......50%
>20 yds......8-27..2 TD..1 INT......30%

What stands out, and contrary to some individual's opinion, Mills is the more efficient at throwing passes greater than 20 yds.
 

Earl34

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OK, just a quick check. Hope I got this correct.

Mills:
15-20 yds...7-13..1 TD..2 INT.......54%
>20 yds.....8-19..3 TD..1 INT.......42%

Fields:
15-20 yds...9-14....................64%
>20 yds.....4-18..1 INT.............22%

Jones:
15-20 yds...10-20..2 TD..1 INT......50%
>20 yds......8-27..2 TD..1 INT......30%

What stands out, and contrary to some individual's opinion, Mills is the more efficient at throwing passes greater than 20 yds.
Out of curiosity. Where is Lawrence and Wilson in your stats? Also, to avoid the "best of a bad lot analysis". Is completing 42% of passes >20 yards, considered above average, average or below average?
 


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