Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Lies. LJ8 was close to beating him last year. Aside from that, last year was perhaps the best year to beat Mahomes and the chiefs..and he failed despite home field advantage.
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Deadpool
Veteran
Was it Lamar who failed, or his team and coaching that failed?
badboy
Hall of Fame
Getting personal there aren't you?
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
My statement was in response to Steelb who has Allen above LJ8 b/c of “almost” beating Mahomes.
The 2nd part of my post was talking about Allen losing to Mahomes again last year..now looking at it, I realize that that happened to both guys last year.
Deadpool
Veteran
Nope. I was talking about your post and opinion, wasn't talking about you as a person.
Moving on as you say.
How many points did the Ravens put up in that game? LJ8 was a disappointment on the big stage.
Arky
Veteran
In the "it's somewhat concerning" Department: Texan defense has created zero turnovers in the last 3 games. They lost the turnover battle 0-2 to Buffalo yet still pulled out the win - a low percentage hit.
Texans giveaway/takeaway number is -3 on the year which is the wrong side to be on. Perhaps they can improve that number as the season grinds on.....
Texans giveaway/takeaway number is -3 on the year which is the wrong side to be on. Perhaps they can improve that number as the season grinds on.....
Texansballer74
The Marine
They dropped around three interceptions this Sunday. Last week we had a shot at two interceptions but came up short.
Yeah... those don't count.
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
I feel having our top 3 WRs on the field, more times than not, someone will always be able to eat. If we lose one, we still have playmakers, but it becomes a bit more challenging. IMO, a key advantage Nico has that the others don’t is his rapport with CJ. When a play breaks down, Nico always seems to be in the right place at the right time, positioning himself to help his QB, even when things aren’t going according to plan on a given play.
DanielTx
Chosen one
Houston and San Francisco are the only 2 teams in the top 10 on both sides of the ball.
Houston has the #6 offense and #4 defense
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49ers have the #2 offense and #10 defense
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We’ve faced the 26th, 23rd, (L)17th, 15th, 13th total offense and 7th, (L)16th, 20th, 31st, 32nd total defense
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(Excluding division)
Up coming offenses in order we’re facing.
#31(pats), #4(GB), #27(Jets), #3(Lions), #12(Cowboys), #21(Miami), #11(Chiefs), #1(Ravens)
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Defenses
#24(pats), #21(GB), #2(Jets), #22(Lions), #15(Cowboys), #6(Miami), #9(Chiefs),
#19(Ravens)
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(Excluding playoffs)
Last season we were 3-3 against top 15 offenses (#6ravens, colts, saints, jags) and 1-5 against top 15 defenses (#1browns, jets, panthers, ravens, falcons, saints)
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.
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The theme I’m getting here is Slowiks slightly overrated. We’ve struggled against the 32nd jags, 20th bills, not mentioning the good defenses we’ve played. Keying in on the jets, Miami, cowboys, chiefs game. Going below .500 against these 4 teams and the seasons over even if were in the playoffs.
Houston has the #6 offense and #4 defense
.
49ers have the #2 offense and #10 defense
.
We’ve faced the 26th, 23rd, (L)17th, 15th, 13th total offense and 7th, (L)16th, 20th, 31st, 32nd total defense
.
(Excluding division)
Up coming offenses in order we’re facing.
#31(pats), #4(GB), #27(Jets), #3(Lions), #12(Cowboys), #21(Miami), #11(Chiefs), #1(Ravens)
.
Defenses
#24(pats), #21(GB), #2(Jets), #22(Lions), #15(Cowboys), #6(Miami), #9(Chiefs),
#19(Ravens)
.
(Excluding playoffs)
Last season we were 3-3 against top 15 offenses (#6ravens, colts, saints, jags) and 1-5 against top 15 defenses (#1browns, jets, panthers, ravens, falcons, saints)
.
.
.
The theme I’m getting here is Slowiks slightly overrated. We’ve struggled against the 32nd jags, 20th bills, not mentioning the good defenses we’ve played. Keying in on the jets, Miami, cowboys, chiefs game. Going below .500 against these 4 teams and the seasons over even if were in the playoffs.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Deadpool
Veteran
Would have been 7 more had Flowers not fumbled on the one yard line but people conveniently forget that. People also seem to conveniently forget that the Chiefs defense was the reason they made it into the playoffs in the first place
BattleRedBlud
Blue Steel Pose. No Excuses!
I may be the only person who didn't know, but while watching a recap of the game, I just noticed that the yard numbers on the field match the font on the Texans new jerseys. Pretty cool.
Lamar is an awesome athlete but when it comes to football IMO he's still basically a TB playing QB.
Deadpool
Veteran
That true? Which TB/RB has passed for a career passer rating of 98, thrown 134 TDs to 46 INTs, and completed 64.5% of his passes? If anything, that's true of Anthony Richardson, definitely not Lamar lmao
Pretty lazy take tbh. Best running QB the league has ever seen. Unless you consider all running QBs to be RBs, and not QBs.
I haven't forgotten that LJ8 had a bad game.
Deadpool
Veteran
Lol ok bud. Peyton nearly always failed against Tom Brady and the Patriots, Manning not good either?
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Don’t bother dude. Steelb is the resident “set in my opinion” on the messageboard & No amount of logic/reasoning will sway him lol.
Deadpool
Veteran
Thank you for the heads up
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
Disagree. That title -easily- belongs to Lucky. He states his position and that’s that.
Don’t get me wrong… SteelBTexan is definitely firm in his positions too. He had one (but a very long) stint where he was acting wonky and I think that changed folks opinions of him. He’s actually pretty reasonable in general and he will discuss and discuss and discuss football with you. He’s a real savvy football guy. So is Lucky but it takes two or more people to have a balanced take on differing perspectives.
They both have very strong personalities here but I wouldn’t discredit either one of them when it comes to football.
Not nearly as good as Brady.
Mr. Tex is still a bit butt hurt because I told him Derrick wasn't as good as the media and some on this MB thought he was. LMAO
Porky
Hall of Fame
I’m firm in my positions too. At least that’s what she said…
Steel is cool with me. Actually all you guys and ladies are. Families fight, we argue, we disagree, sometimes we eyeroll. Sometimes all of you are just flat out wrong and I am right lol. But at the end of the day we all love the sport of football, and most of us here are Texans fans. That’s family. Love all you guys. Let’s kick some Patriot ass this Sunday!
Steel is cool with me. Actually all you guys and ladies are. Families fight, we argue, we disagree, sometimes we eyeroll. Sometimes all of you are just flat out wrong and I am right lol. But at the end of the day we all love the sport of football, and most of us here are Texans fans. That’s family. Love all you guys. Let’s kick some Patriot ass this Sunday!
Deadpool
Veteran
Oh I 1000% agree with that
To be sure LJ has a rocket, i.e. a very effective deep-ball but he doesn't have the repertoire of passes we'd expect an elite NFL QB to possess.
Deadpool
Veteran
Pray tell what this repertoire is? Also, to quote someone from yesterday, don't move the goal posts on the original post. You said he was a TB playing QB, but now you're telling me he's not an elite QB (but still a QB) because of these repertoire passes lol
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
I heard LJ caused that hurricane about to hit Florida.
Deadpool
Veteran
He did. He's more of a hurricane than a QB
Watson!
I've always viewed LJ as a player born one or two generations too late for his ideal position in
football which was a TB in the single-wing formation, however since the heyday of the S-wing was back in the days of segregation that era would have no opportunities for a young black man like Jackson.
But more directly to your question D-Pool I've not oberserved a touch, an ability to finesse the pass short or mid-range by LJ of others who have IMO the complete bag of tricks
to be an elite QB/passer.
LJ8 will never be an elite passer. He's a good passer and an elite tailback. I think he can win a championship. However he needs to be healthy at the end of the season for this to happen and before last yr he struggled with this.
Deadpool
Veteran
So what did you see Vick as? A WR??
Thank you for the clarification on that last part. I see many of that myself, but to say he's masquerading as a QB is a bit ridiculous to be quite honest.
Deadpool
Veteran
But to say that he's essentially masquerading as a QB, that's a bit crazy. There's a lot of "good" passers out there who aren't "elite"... are they all just QB wannabe's too?
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Yeah and it only took you 5+ years to “prove” your theory about him lol. Aside from that I’m No more butthurt than u swearing up and down he was going to prison and was getting put out of the league. How’s that working out for u?
It’s all in good fun around here tho.
Texansballer74
The Marine
He’s not a tailback brother. He a running type quarterback. I never hear any of y’all call Allen a tailback. So why call him that?
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Mr teX
Hall of Fame
But even in that aspect of their games, LJ8 is better lol.
Allen is largely pumped up to be more than he actually is. And the more he continues to **** the bed against top comp like he did against us, the more that narrative that Diggs being the reason for his career being elevated becomes more true. Lamar was an MVP with crap WR’s. Allen goes 9/30.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
I see we got off topic.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Are u surprised given the parties involved?
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
No. You tend to go after people and get us off topic.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
lol, sure “I” do
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Yall should be more careful. I just recently had five posts deleted from the hurricane thread for being off topic. The ******* hurricane thread of all things.
Doesn't matter, as long as he wins football games.
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
He is not an elite tailback either. He’s very very very good at -both- which makes him an elite player, IMO.
I don’t want him as my QB when we have Stroud but I sure would love to have him on my team. I think he can excel at anything. He’d find his way into the starting lineup somewhere.
Allen is a more accurate thrower of the football, but they use him like a tailback too. To answer your question, it's because the subject has never been brought up about Allen. If it was I would agree with you about Allen being used as a tailback playing QB, even though Allen is the more accurate thrower of the football.
I remember a day when Steve Young used to play QB like he was a tailback playing QB. After 4-5 yrs with Walsh he learned how to play QB.
He should be in prison, make no mistake about that.
If You or I had done the things he's done, we would be doing 25 yrs.
Milton blows.Yall should be more careful. I just recently had five posts deleted from the hurricane thread for being off topic. The ******* hurricane thread of all things.