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Week 2: at The Dawg Pound

CloakNNNdagger

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Things are working out just like I thought they would, just a little earlier.. Mills will get plenty of playing time this season. Hell he did better than the #1 pick today lol.
You mean less bad? 🤔 :brando:
And the #2 pick. Lol.
Keep in mind, Mills had no starter reps coming into this game. Although I believe he performed commendably under the circumstances, I have to think that we are likely to see some significant improvement when he has some quality preparation time against the Panthers.
 

steelbtexan

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Keep in mind, Mills had no starter reps coming into this game. Although I believe he performed commendably under the circumstances, I have to think that we are likely to see some significant improvement when he has some quality preparation time against the Panthers.
I wonder how much prep work he's going to get in a short week?
 
Well, now we're gonna find out what Mills has got. We all wanted to know anyway, so now we'll know soon enough. LOL
Considering the struggles of most rookies drafted ahead of DMs I am not sure we can gather much just from this season alone. I suppose we can determine if there is a fair amount of improvement over time, but being the Qb's drafted much higher with more college starting experience than DMs have had their struggles, "as is expected," I really don't think we will see much that will impress us. I foresee a lot of turnovers from DMs. More than the other rookies drafted this season. I think Zack Wilson and Trevor Lawrence are way ahead of DMs and they have had struggles. I find the mountain to climb for DMs is a lot higher.

I would love nothing better than to find our diamond in the rough in regards to DMs but I just don't think he has enough experience from college to perform even half way decent this season. I think the other rookies will do better by default. They did not come out of college long before they should have.

If we are to assess what we have in DMs I would rather wait 7 to 10 games into the season and see how we are doing with an experienced veteran Qb like Cam Newton. I know how against that many of you are due to not liking him personally from his past antics, but I don't think he is anything like that Cam. I know as a thrower he is not as good either but with him comes a player who has experienced a lot and having a former MVP as a mentor for DMs can't be all that bad. Besides I think Cam fits how our offense is set up more than DMs. He gives us our best chance to win and at this time I am not willing to call this season quits no matter how the so called football experts feel about our team. I think our team has shown enough promise than to go all in early in their season on a rookie Qb drafted in the third round. If anything DMs was drafted too high. For me it all boils down to the expectations our team has for themselves. I don't see them as ready to give up on their season. If the team is dead set on starting DM's than they should at least sign Cam as a back up to DM's should he get hurt or if he plays really poorly.
 

76Texan

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Considering the struggles of most rookies drafted ahead of DMs I am not sure we can gather much just from this season alone. I suppose we can determine if there is a fair amount of improvement over time, but being the Qb's drafted much higher with more college starting experience than DMs have had their struggles, "as is expected," I really don't think we will see much that will impress us. I foresee a lot of turnovers from DMs. More than the other rookies drafted this season. I think Zack Wilson and Trevor Lawrence are way ahead of DMs and they have had struggles. I find the mountain to climb for DMs is a lot higher.

I would love nothing better than to find our diamond in the rough in regards to DMs but I just don't think he has enough experience from college to perform even half way decent this season. I think the other rookies will do better by default. They did not come out of college long before they should have.

If we are to assess what we have in DMs I would rather wait 7 to 10 games into the season and see how we are doing with an experienced veteran Qb like Cam Newton. I know how against that many of you are due to not liking him personally from his past antics, but I don't think he is anything like that Cam. I know as a thrower he is not as good either but with him comes a player who has experienced a lot and having a former MVP as a mentor for DMs can't be all that bad. Besides I think Cam fits how our offense is set up more than DMs. He gives us our best chance to win and at this time I am not willing to call this season quits no matter how the so called football experts feel about our team. I think our team has shown enough promise than to go all in early in their season on a rookie Qb drafted in the third round. If anything DMs was drafted too high. For me it all boils down to the expectations our team has for themselves. I don't see them as ready to give up on their season. If the team is dead set on starting DM's than they should at least sign Cam as a back up to DM's should he get hurt or if he plays really poorly.
A running game can be a rookie QB's best friend.
A good Oline also does wonder.
A good game plan can also help.
 

76Texan

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76Texan

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This link is for preseason.

Thinking it through though, I think they'd have only Tuesday for live reps, otherwise the home team has an advantage.
Article 24 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement states that there are actually only 14 padded practices during the regular season.

Eleven of them must occur during the first 11 weeks (ie.; there might be weeks later on in the season that there's no padded practice.

A team may choose the day to hold such practice.

It may also choose to hold two padded practices in one particular week
(Doubtful during a short week).

Just Google for it.
 

76Texan

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This link is for preseason.

Thinking it through though, I think they'd have only Tuesday for live reps, otherwise the home team has an advantage.
Article 35 concerning Days Off remains the same for regular season.
Players must be allowed at least one day off per week.
 

CloakNNNdagger

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The CBA does not limit teams (allowed practice days.......visitors vs home) on short weeks other than requiring a non-practice day/day off and no more than 1 contact practice. The visiting team, having to travel is empirically placed at some disadvantage.
 

76Texan

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Article 35 also states that during the 24 hours that constitutes the day off, a QB may be required to attend coaches meetings.
 

Number19

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Article 35 concerning Days Off remains the same for regular season.
Players must be allowed at least one day off per week.
So, they could practice Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday; play on Thursday and take Friday off. Of course Wednesday might be a "light" practice.

When I played high school football in the 60's, we'd always have a light practice on Thursday before our Friday night game.
 

banned1976

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Who are you talking about?
That’s for him to know and us to…not know, I guess. He couldn’t have meant me, I’m always positive when it comes to the Texans.

On a serious note, I second the sentiment that this team is more enjoyable to watch, even in defeat than last year’s squad. I attribute it to O’Brien being gone. Because normally, I hate it when the Texans lose because teams previously looked so darn flat under Bill O’Brien. This team, with all of their warts haven’t looked flat at any point in the first two games.

Dare I say, the Texans have finally found an identity? Scrabby underdogs?
 

Texansballer74

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That’s for him to know and us to…not know, I guess. He couldn’t have meant me, I’m always positive when it comes to the Texans.

On a serious note, I second the sentiment that this team is more enjoyable to watch, even in defeat than last year’s squad. I attribute it to O’Brien being gone. Because normally, I hate it when the Texans lose because teams previously looked so darn flat under Bill O’Brien. This team, with all of their warts haven’t looked flat at any point in the first two games.

Dare I say, the Texans have finally found an identity? Scrabby underdogs?
Banned you wasn’t commenting during that time. So of course, I wasn’t talking to you brother. Dude knows exactly who I was talking about.
 

76Texan

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So, they could practice Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday; play on Thursday and take Friday off. Of course Wednesday might be a "light" practice.

When I played high school football in the 60's, we'd always have a light practice on Thursday before our Friday night game.
I don't think the 60s has much of anything to do with the NFL today as this part of the CBA aims to protect the health of players and their rights at the work place.

Minimum one day off is likely for the players to recuperate after a game.

I'm not sure what they can do during non-padded practice.

 

OptimisticTexan

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I don't think the 60s has much of anything to do with the NFL today as this part of the CBA aims to protect the health of players and their rights at the work place.

Minimum one day off is likely for the players to recuperate after a game.

I'm not sure what they can do during non-padded practice.

Full speed routes in pads, shorts, etc to help Mills build timing with the receivers and TE’s. Anything at this point would be leaps and bounds better than nothing.
 

Number19

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Only one-padded practice allowed per week.
Depends on how the NFL defines "padded practice". The old definition meant full pads with full contact. Wearing shoulder pads with shorts and without full contact was considered a light practice and was used precisely as Optimistic Texan said.

I guess my point was, if I had a point, is that football players today are wusses compared to players in the 60's. Even high school players had tougher practices than professionals today.

I've long suspected that the modern training practices are what leads to injuries in the modern game.
 

76Texan

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Depends on how the NFL defines "padded practice". The old definition meant full pads with full contact. Wearing shoulder pads with shorts and without full contact was considered a light practice and was used precisely as Optimistic Texan said.

I guess my point was, if I had a point, is that football players today are wusses compared to players in the 60's. Even high school players had tougher practices than professionals today.

I've long suspected that the modern training practices are what leads to injuries in the modern game.
I think guys are faster and stronger today.
E= mc2

That could have an impact on injuries, too.
 

CloakNNNdagger

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I think guys are faster and stronger today.
E= mc2

That could have an impact on injuries, too.
You are correct today's NFL players are faster and stronger..............with that, with the introduction of progressively less and "lighter" practices, and minimal numbers of contact practice, you would have to expect those players in regular games are less controlled and their body actions less coordinated to handle the real-time performance requirements and physical traumas presented by the "real thing."
 

steelbtexan

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Depends on how the NFL defines "padded practice". The old definition meant full pads with full contact. Wearing shoulder pads with shorts and without full contact was considered a light practice and was used precisely as Optimistic Texan said.

I guess my point was, if I had a point, is that football players today are wusses compared to players in the 60's. Even high school players had tougher practices than professionals today.

I've long suspected that the modern training practices are what leads to injuries in the modern game.
And lack of hitting in practices.
 

76Texan

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And that's why Clowney even got the meager number of tackles he got in the game. Attention was all placed on Garrett.
IMO, each guy is used differently by different teams.

I remember Anthony Weaver, for example.
He had a good year statistically for the Texans in 2006 and then was pretty quiet the next two years.
I had reviewed all of his games and I noticed that the Texans were using him to set the edge most often.
In a nutshell, they want him to contain one side so that Mario Williams can attack from the other side.

When Weaver got to the Ravens; they used him differently.
His sacks and TFLs improved dramatically.

....

As for the game, I look at it this way.
There's about 8 drives on the average per game (if I remember correctly).

11 starters, a number of rotational players.

A guy, Clowney, for example, only needs to make a big play to stop a drive and make a couple of contributions in helping to stop another drive, then he would have done his job.

And Clowney had done at least that. Even though I haven't reviewed his individual play carefully, that was the observation I had.
 

thunderkyss

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In a nutshell, they want him to contain one side so that Mario Williams can attack from the other side.

When Weaver got to the Ravens; they used him differently.
His sacks and TFLs improved dramatically
Except it didn’t really happen that way. He played at Baltimore, flashed a little. We overpaid him & he was not a pass rusher outside of the Ravens defense.

He couldn’t find a gig after he left HTown.
 


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