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Week 13 Gameday: Texans at Ravens

run-david-run said:
We get it, you dont like Carr!!!
now please shut up
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on the contrary i like carr i think he brings alot of attention to breast cancer and has been a model citizen i just dont approve of his QB Play and i wont ask you to shut up that would be rude and classless:texflag:
 
Hervoyel said:
Yes DD is a servicable back. He looked like he was running in mud though toward the end of that little 29 yard burst. A back from the next tier up changes everybodys angle of pursuit and takes that same play to the end zone.

That's just a fact man.
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Nope, that there is an opinion, there aren't any guarantees vs. NFL-level defensive speed. Bush might have gotten more yds., but we'll never know.

I think Bush is the best player in this draft, but I still don't think we should get him. Trade down (gain picks) and fill MUCH more pressing needs.

Things like OL, TE, CB come to mind.
 
Napa Auto Parts said:
on the contrary i like carr i think he bring alot of attention to breast cancer and has been a model citizen i just dont approve of his QB Play and i wont ask you to shut up that would be rude and classless:texflag:
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while consitently bashing a player obviously giving everything he has in terriblle working conditions is not clasless?
 
Jerry said:
Who's starting on the line today? Pitts - Brown - McKinney - Weigert - Riley ??
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Riley - Wiegert

We like to switch our guards and tackles around to be innovative.
 
The Mirror image QB comp halftime stats...

PASSING
CP/AT YDS TD INT
D. Carr 9/19 74 0 0


PASSING
CP/AT YDS TD INT
K. Boller 8/15 80 0 0
 
run-david-run said:
first really bad throw from Carr, gotta put it in a position to be caught, have to trust your reciver
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clock was running out, he had to get rid of it fairly fast if we wanted time for the fg.
 
why upgrade one position a little. when we might have a chance to upgrade 2 or 3 positions significantly.
 
markbeth said:
why upgrade one position a little. when we might have a chance to upgrade 2 or 3 positions significantly.
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That's what the Buc's said when they traded the rights to Earl Campbell.
 
Vinny said:
The Mirror image QB comp halftime stats...

PASSING
CP/AT YDS TD INT
D. Carr 9/19 74 0 0


PASSING
CP/AT YDS TD INT
K. Boller 8/15 80 0 0
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i would have to say baltimore is protecting their qb better than we are protecting ours.
 
Runner said:
Except for say - Emmitt Smith
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I feel like those guys in the barber shop from "Coming To America" talking about boxing, except I'm talking about running backs.

"Oh there they go. There they go, every time I start talkin 'bout how slow Domanick Davis is, somebody got to pull Emmitt Smith out their.... That's their one, that's their one. Emmitt Smith. Emmitt Smith. Let me tell you something once and for all. Emmitt Smith was good, but compared to Reggie Smith's speed, Emmitt Smith ain't.... "

or something like that.

I've been watching Domanick Davis for three years just like you've been watching Domanick Davis for three years and let me assure you, Domanick Davis is no Emmitt Smith
 
Hervoyel said:
I feel like those guys in the barber shop from "Coming To America" talking about boxing, except I'm talking about running backs.

"Oh there they go. There they go, every time I start talkin 'bout how slow Domanick Davis is, somebody got to pull Emmitt Smith out their.... That's their one, that's their one. Emmitt Smith. Emmitt Smith. Let me tell you something once and for all. Emmitt Smith was good, but compared to Reggie Smith's speed, Emmitt Smith ain't.... "

or something like that.

I've been watching Domanick Davis for three years just like you've been watching Domanick Davis for three years and let me assure you, Domanick Davis is no Emmitt Smith
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Who is Emmitt Smith? Speed is not what makes a good Rb. Watch a USC games and the wholes made by their line, then watch what DD has to run through. That is why Reggie is not the best option for the Texans
 
Hervoyel said:
I feel like those guys in the barber shop from "Coming To America" talking about boxing, except I'm talking about running backs.

"Oh there they go. There they go, every time I start talkin 'bout how slow Domanick Davis is, somebody got to pull Emmitt Smith out their.... That's their one, that's their one. Emmitt Smith. Emmitt Smith. Let me tell you something once and for all. Emmitt Smith was good, but compared to Reggie Smith's speed, Emmitt Smith ain't.... "

or something like that.

I've been watching Domanick Davis for three years just like you've been watching Domanick Davis for three years and let me assure you, Domanick Davis is no Emmitt Smith
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I didn't say Davis was Emmitt Smith. I personally think that Wells should get more playing time because I think he is just as good as Davis. If you look at my posts the last few weeks I've been knocking our RBs and line for our barely averaging over 3 yards per running back carry. Carr's scrambles have been making our ypc look better than they are.

I'm just saying that not all successful running backs have break away speed. Sorry I presented an example of one.
 
p.s. I think Dorsett was the Cowboys best RB ever. He would have had 20K yards behind Smith's line.
 
Goon said:
Yeah, 'cuz the Oilers won so many Superbowls with Earl....oh...
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There was no single player that pushed us to back to back AFC title games vs the Steelers and give us some fantastic National attention. Without Earl we don't get to those games. I can have great memories of the 70's Oilers even without the SB's...and without Earl all I have are great runs by Lo White or Ronnie Coleman to sit back and ponder on.
 
So say we do have the #1 pick, and we decide to trade down..say five spots or so....What kind of picks could we get in return for that?

P.S. Can someone kook me up with a couple fo reputation points....I've been at 8 for months now!
 
disaacks3 said:
Nope, that there is an opinion, there aren't any guarantees vs. NFL-level defensive speed. Bush might have gotten more yds., but we'll never know.

I think Bush is the best player in this draft, but I still don't think we should get him. Trade down (gain picks) and fill MUCH more pressing needs.

Things like OL, TE, CB come to mind.
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No that is a fact. A running back who is faster than Domanick Davis and who is running faster than Domanick Davis did in that situation causes his pursuers to alter their angles of pursuit. That is an undeniable fact. If they want to catch him they have o change their angle.

Now yes, whether or not he scored is up for debate because I don't know how fast the players who had a chance to tackle him are. I'm sorry, I got ahead of myself there and tacked an opinion on the end of a fact. I should have ended that post with "and has a better chance of taking that same play to the end zone.

The first part and the meat of my post though, fact.

Look, I work with Elmo Wright. I spent a very long time talking with him in his office about Domanick Davis, and his speed, and what 40 times mean and, the relative advantages of speed versus quickness/elusiveness/agility whatever you want to call it, and why he's never going to be anything but a nice servicable back. I think Elmo knows what he's talking about.

Frankly anyone who thinks the RB position doesn't need to be upgraded gets very little respect from me. I just don't think they understand what they're looking at. Anyone who thinks that a top running back wouldn't make this line look better and contribute significantly to the amount of time David Carr has to throw gets very little respect from me. Again, I don't think they understand what they're looking at.

Domanick Davis is the Tim Smith (Houston Oilers, early 80's) of the Houston Texans.
 
Goon said:
Yeah, 'cuz the Oilers won so many Superbowls with Earl....oh...
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And how many did the Bucs win with their extra picks back then ? If we trade for extra picks then we'd better hit on all of them. And if Casserly's still doing the picking...
 
Runner said:
I didn't say Davis was Emmitt Smith. I personally think that Wells should get more playing time because I think he is just as good as Davis. If you look at my posts the last few weeks I've been knocking our RBs and line for our barely averaging over 3 yards per running back carry. Carr's scrambles have been making our ypc look better than they are.

I'm just saying that not all successful running backs have break away speed. Sorry I presented an example of one.
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I know man, I should have put some kind of "joking" comment in there. It just always reminds me of that conversation from that movie so I cut and pasted it into there and altered it to fit the Domanick Davis topic.

It was meant to be humerous. I missed the mark.
 
So say we do have the #1 pick, and we decide to trade down..say five spots or so....What kind of picks could we get in return for that?

P.S. Can someone kook me up with a couple fo reputation points....I've been at 8 for months now!
 
If Carr makes a better throw that is a TD....Johnson had to slow down and nearly stop to catch that.
 
It's not that the RB spot couldn't be upgraded, it's that other spots are SOOO bad that they need it first in order for the ENTIRE team to improve.
 
Hervoyel said:
I know man, I should have put some kind of "joking" comment in there. It just always reminds me of that conversation from that movie so I cut and pasted it into there and altered it to fit the Domanick Davis topic.

It was meant to be humerous. I missed the mark.
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Cool. In fact I almost pointed out that we ran twice for 3 yards from around the 5 when we really needed 5-6 yards, and then I didn't after he broke that run.
 
Vinny said:
AJ had to nearly stop running to catch that ball "right in his hands"
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Well, I wasn't commenting on the throw, it was behind him. I was simply saying that the bal was in his hands and the defender made a nice play.
 
run-david-run said:
i think this game is proof as to why we draft D'Birck or Winston, not Bush. So far, the only offense we have is DD between the tackles, Bush would get nowhere
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Davis is having a great game, and I'm not trying to take anything away from him, but on two of those long runs Reggie Bush would have had touchdowns.
 
edo783 said:
It's not that the RB spot couldn't be upgraded, it's that other spots are SOOO bad that they need it first in order for the ENTIRE team to improve.
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But are they really or are we just running the worst variation of the 3-4 in the NFL and are we trying to run an offense that our players are a terrible fit for because our offensive coordinator wanted to throw the ball and open it up but our head coach wanted to grind it out and run all day?

I think our staff sucks and our players are at worst average in most spots. Our offensive line is not as bad as it looks, of that I'm absolutely certain.

I take Bush but that's me and that's off topic so I'm going to shut up and go back to watching the game.
 
Vinny said:
There was no single player that pushed us to back to back AFC title games vs the Steelers and give us some fantastic National attention. Without Earl we don't get to those games. I can have great memories of the 70's Oilers even without the SB's...and without Earl all I have are great runs by Lo White or Ronnie Coleman to sit back and ponder on.
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We had way more than Earl going for us those first few years of Earl's career. We had decent QBs, we had a line that didn't make me cringe (except when Carl Mauck tried to sing), and we had some good WRs. Heck, I even remember TEs from those days. Considering all that is wrong with the '05 Texans, I think we would be doing ourselves a disservice be simply getting another RB when we have so many other positions which are in far worse shape.
 
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So say we do have the #1 pick, and we decide to trade down..say five spots or so....What kind of picks could we get in return for that?

P.S. Can someone kook me up with a couple fo reputation points....I've been at 8 for months now!
 
tulexan said:
Davis is having a great game, and I'm not trying to take anything away from him, but on two of those long runs Reggie Bush would have had touchdowns.
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You dont know that. College football and NFL football are totally different. Yes, he will be good, but wait till he hits the NFL before you see what he can do.
 
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