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76Texan

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I stand corrected

PFF stats only hold up for the players you like.

I'm guessing you cant see how much worse the OL has looked without Britt/Tunsil because PFF didn't tell you and you either dont watch the games or only see what you want to see.
Don't move the goal post.

But first off, Britt was a below average center.

Secondly, the play of the Center hardly affect the performance of either tackle (which are the two main guys I've been talking about).

Lastly, I wasn't talking about the play of the whole unit.
The absence of Tunsil, if anything, only offer the opportunity to gauge the play of his replacement.

Also, I remember you said (and I paraphrase) "PFF is not gospel, but bottom tier or quarter are still bad players".
 

steelbtexan

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Don't move the goal post.

But first off, Britt was a below average center.

Secondly, the play of the Center hardly affect the performance of either tackle (which are the two main guys I've been talking about).

Lastly, I wasn't talking about the play of the whole unit.
The absence of Tunsil, if anything, only offer the opportunity to gauge the play of his replacement.

Also, I remember you said (and I paraphrase) "PFF is not gospel, but bottom tier or quarter are still bad players".
What goalposts are being moved?

I just observed that the OL looked better with Tunsil and Britt.

You still want to get rid of the best player on a putrid OL after seeing the way the OL has played the last month. Kinda sad in a way.

I agree the bottom quarter of players usually aren't good. But I would like more than a 4 game sample size.
 

76Texan

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What goalposts are being moved?

I just observed that the OL looked better with Tunsil and Britt.

You still want to get rid of the best player on a putrid OL after seeing the way the OL has played the last month. Kinda sad in a way.

I agree the bottom quarter of players usually aren't good. But I would like more than a 4 game sample size.
You said yourself that you don't expect the Texans to be truly competitive until 2024.
How old will Tunsil be then? And how much will he cost?
I don't see it as a bad idea to trade him and find some young blood in the draft.

It's no secret that Tunsil (though overpaid) and Britt (though below average) can still make the Oline better as a whole.
Nobody was disputing that.
 

76Texan

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You still want to get rid of the best player on a putrid OL after seeing the way the OL has played the last month. Kinda sad in a way.

I agree the bottom quarter of players usually aren't good. But I would like more than a 4 game sample size.
I wasn't giving out any final grade now, did I?

In fact, I had sais a couple of times that I will have to study the Oline play later when I have time/interest.
 

steelbtexan

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You said yourself that you don't expect the Texans to be truly competitive until 2024.
How old will Tunsil be then? And how much will he cost?
I don't see it as a bad idea to trade him and find some young blood in the draft.

It's no secret that Tunsil (though overpaid) and Britt (though below average) can still make the Oline better as a whole.
Nobody was disputing that.
Tunsil is 27 and will be either 29 or 30 when the season starts in 2024. If he's still playing at a pro bowl level through the 2023 season you pay him what he's worth a a top tier player. Say you sign him for 4-5 yrs, he should be able to play at a high level through that age. Kinda like DB is playing fairly well at age 36-37. You must not think Tunsil will have longevity. I'm betting his game ages well.

I would argue that Tunsil is well paid for his talent level as a pro bowl level player but not grossly overpaid. Pro Bowl players get paid. That's a fact of life in the NFL.
 
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steelbtexan

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The ugly so many Texans fans don't want to face about Culley's hire

Nick C. actually thinks Culley was the best man for the job

or

Culley was the only candidate who would take the Texans' dumpster fire, soap opera, carnival show, etc.
Culley is what he is, a placeholder during the tank. There will be a new HC maybe even as early as next yr and in 2 yrs at the most.
 

Number19

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Culley said he's happy with Kelly's playcalling and that Howard/Taylor played well. So if the left side of the OL played well and Kelly's doing a great job, what are the offenses issues?

I'm going with Culley's lying and should be fired if he thinks Kelly's doing a great job.
That's not what I heard. When asked about Kelly, he said Kelly was his OC and there would be no changes. Then there was a follow up question asking if he thought Kelly was doing a good job. In a rather long answer, he said no, and expanded by saying that no one involved with the offense was doing a good job and this was evident by the poor play by the offense.
 

76Texan

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Tunsil is 27 and will be either 29 or 30 when the season starts in 2024. If he's still playing at a pro bowl level through the 2023 season you pay him what he's worth a a top tier player. Say you sign him for 4-5 yrs, he should be able to play at a high level through that age. Kinda like DB is playing fairly well at age 36-37. You must not think Tunsil will have longevity. I'm betting his game ages well.

I would argue that Tunsil is well paid for his talent level as a pro bowl level player but not grossly overpaid. Pro Bowl players get paid. That's a fact of life in the NFL.
Tunsil is overpaid, plain and simple.
Sure, a team can overpay a few positions when they're legitimate contender.
That's how things are done in the NFL, in case you haven't noticed.
At the moment, that money could be stashed as reserve for the time the Texans are ready (which is not in the foreseeable future, as you had acknowledged).
 

steelbtexan

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Tunsil is overpaid, plain and simple.
Sure, a team can overpay a few positions when they're legitimate contender.
That's how things are done in the NFL, in case you haven't noticed.
At the moment, that money could be stashed as reserve for the time the Texans are ready (which is not in the foreseeable future, as you had acknowledged).
Pro bowl players get paid.

The cap really isn't an issue until the 2024 season since the Texans are going to suck until that season anyways. By that time Tunsil will be a fa again and you can make the decision at that point whether to retain a 30 yr old pro bowl LT. In the meantime at least you know whatever drafted young QB that plays will have his blindside well protected, so that the Texans don't end up with a Carr situation. The only way I trade Tunsil is for a BOB type trade or more. I certainly don't trade him to save a few bucks. Although I admit that would be a very McNair thing to do.
 
Pro bowl players get paid.

The cap really isn't an issue until the 2024 season since the Texans are going to suck until that season anyways. By that time Tunsil will be a fa again and you can make the decision at that point whether to retain a 30 yr old pro bowl LT. In the meantime at least you know whatever drafted young QB that plays will have his blindside well protected, so that the Texans don't end up with a Carr situation. The only way I trade Tunsil is for a BOB type trade or more. I certainly don't trade him to save a few bucks. Although I admit that would be a very McNair thing to do.
You really got to let that Pro Bowl thing go...we all know it's a popularity contest made up of votes from 3 entities.

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76Texan

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Usually OL in the pro bowl isn't a popularity thing.

I would say he's a top 5-8 LT in the NFL and those guys get paid.
Even if Tunsil is top 5-8, he's still overpaid.

What I don't like about Tunsil, besides his lacking in run blocking is that he can't sustain the pass block for too long (and by that I mean more than 3 seconds on average.)
An elite LT needs to be able to do that; to take the edge rusher completely out of the play in most instances (where the QB doesn't run into the sack or another offensive lineman doesn't get beat badly and force the QB to the left side.)
 

steelbtexan

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Even if Tunsil is top 5-8, he's still overpaid.

What I don't like about Tunsil, besides his lacking in run blocking is that he can't sustain the pass block for too long (and by that I mean more than 3 seconds on average.)
An elite LT needs to be able to do that; to take the edge rusher completely out of the play in most instances (where the QB doesn't run into the sack or another offensive lineman doesn't get beat badly and force the QB to the left side.)
He holds his blocks plenty long enough.

If he didn't it stands to reason he would've given up many more sacks. He's an elite pass protector. Overpaid maybe, I guess it's all about how much you value protecting the QB. I remember the Clark/Davenport yrs and I'm glad Caserio is willing to pay so that we as fans dont have to go through that again. Or reach in the draft for a guy like Howard for that matter.

I look as Tunsil as not only the blindside protector for a young QB so that he doesn't become gunshy but also as one less problem you have to worry about in the re-build. Also he's young enough that you can make a decision in 3 yrs after the team is rebuilt and either he's improved or not. Remember he's young enough where there should be more improvement in his game. He's not a finished product and usually an athlete's prime yrs are between age 27-32.
 
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OptimisticTexan

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Tunsil PFF Rankings:
2019: 75.8 (18 Penalties #1 in NFL)
2020: 75.4
2021: 59.4

I don’t rely on stats which is why I like to include the eye test.

As far as Tunsil goes….I see his bend but don’t break pass protection skills to be so-so and his run blocking non-exsistance. As a whole the Texans OL rankings have looked like this:
2018: 31 (Before Tunsil)
2019: 20 (Rushing: 09)
2020: 23 (Rushing: 31)
2021: 27 (Rushing: 32)

Texans have used the TE on both sides of the line to try and help the tackles handle the defensive push.

A big part of protecting the QB is being able to execute in the run game. In 2019 the Texans finished 10-6 which was due to a fairly strong running game.

Tunsil is good…..primarily as a pass blocker. I think the Texans could find a nastier and more versatile (Pass & Run Blocker) LT in the draft with the extra RD1 pick the team would receive if they traded him. Sure, there may be a season of growth but long term the idea is to build a more functional OL.
 
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beerlover

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Overpaid is a relative term. Relatively speaking, LT’s are all overpaid unless still playing under their rookie contract. Hate the handling of his contract not the player.
There are some terrific OT’s in next years class, we’ll just have to wait and see how motivated Caserio is to use a high pick on one?

If Texans drafted Evan Neal, Alabama, he would look awful good as a bookend to Tunsil. Contracts would offset, and add stud Center, early 2nd Tyler Linderbaum, Iowa, might just fix the Texans OL for next four or five years. Then Mills will have his protection and RB’s lanes to exploit.
 

OptimisticTexan

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Overpaid is a relative term. Relatively speaking, LT’s are all overpaid unless still playing under their rookie contract. Hate the handling of his contract not the player.
There are some terrific OT’s in next years class, we’ll just have to wait and see how motivated Caserio is to use a high pick on one?

If Texans drafted Evan Neal, Alabama, he would look awful good as a bookend to Tunsil. Contracts would offset, and add stud Center, early 2nd Tyler Linderbaum, Iowa, might just fix the Texans OL for next four or five years. Then Mills will have his protection and RB’s lanes to exploit.
I was thinking the team could be set if they got LT- Penning (N IL), LG- Johnson (BC), C- Ford (Utah), and RG- Mays (TN)……these players all seem to be noted as guys who play with a nasty demeanor and will play until the play is whistled dead. This group could certainly give me hopes that the Texans were on the right path to building an OL like the Oilers did when their focus shifted to the trenches.
 

beerlover

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I was thinking the team could be set if they got LT- Penning (N IL), LG- Johnson (BC), C- Ford (Utah), and RG- Mays (TN)……these players all seem to be noted as guys who play with a nasty demeanor and will play until the play is whistled dead. This group could certainly give me hopes that the Texans were on the right path to building an OL like the Oilers did when their focus shifted to the trenches.
like all of them. Slotted only two offensive lineman, early, at or near their projected grades, although Linderbaum could wind up being late first, think he would be plus value @ position of need (true BPA).

Far as the rest, so many other needs to address as well. Like to grab a high ceiling WR and RB. Rest should be defensive, corners, edge, DT. Since we were talking Tunsil, Evan Neil gives Caserio leverage in negotiations since he is also a proven LT.
 

OptimisticTexan

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I was thinking the team could be set if they got LT- Penning (N IL), LG- Johnson (BC), C- Ford (Utah), and RG- Mays (TN)……these players all seem to be noted as guys who play with a nasty demeanor and will play until the play is whistled dead. This group could certainly give me hopes that the Texans were on the right path to building an OL like the Oilers did when their focus shifted to the trenches.
If the Texans get RD1’s for both Watson and Tunsil….plus their RD1 pick, it would be 100% feasible to land Penning with the 2nd RD1 pick. Johnson would be an easy RD2 pick. Ford is probably there in RD3 and Mays should be available in RD5 or RD6…..which if need be, Caserio would have the assets to move up to draft him.

I’d think the Texans could wind up with an extra RD2 and/or RD3 picks from the Watson and Tunsil deals. These picks could certainly land top defensive players and solid RB’s to completely overall that sad group currently in uniform.
 

76Texan

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Tunsil PFF Rankings:
2019: 75.8 (18 Penalties #1 in NFL)
2020: 75.4
2021: 59.4

I don’t rely on stats which is why I like to include the eye test.

As far as Tunsil goes….I see his bend but don’t break pass protection skills to be so-so and his run blocking non-exsistance. As a whole the Texans OL rankings have looked like this:
2018: 31 (Before Tunsil)
2019: 20 (Rushing: 09)
2020: 23 (Rushing: 31)
2021: 27 (Rushing: 32)

Texans have used the TE on both sides of the line to try and help the tackles handle the defensive push.

A big part of protecting the QB is being able to execute in the run game. In 2019 the Texans finished 10-6 which was due to a fairly strong running game.

Tunsil is good…..primarily as a pass blocker. I think the Texans could find a nastier and more versatile (Pass & Run Blocker) LT in the draft with the extra RD1 pick the team would receive if they traded him. Sure, there may be a season of growth but long term the idea is to build a more functional OL.
Right.
I want a nasty SOB on the line.
Also, a guy that plays until the whistle blows (or a hair after that; just don't commit any silly penalty.)
A guy that doesn't need hardly any help from a TE or a RB.

Tunsil needs to play closer to the level of Bakhtiari and Trent Williams.

 

ArlingtonTexan

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Well we got those 6
Tunsil is overpaid, plain and simple.
Sure, a team can overpay a few positions when they're legitimate contender.
That's how things are done in the NFL, in case you haven't noticed.
At the moment, that money could be stashed as reserve for the time the Texans are ready (which is not in the foreseeable future, as you had acknowledged).

There is a salary cap and salary floor. The Texans will have to give out/ keep a few bad contracts to stay above that.

The actual have not had a real issue with that bottom number, which give us plenty to post about
 
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Number19

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If the Texans get RD1’s for ... Tunsil….
The trading deadline has passed, so no trade this year to possibly help a playoff team. But why would a team trade for Tunsil, and his contract, prior to the draft, giving up a #1, when they could use that #1 to draft and sign a rookie to a rookie contract?

If we were to trade Tunsil we likely wouldn't get any help in next April's draft. And we would be creating another hole/problem. Unless your intent is to go with Howard and Heck.

I do like and agree with your overall emphasis on the OL.

And I would not count the eggs in my basket (Watson picks) before I actually have them.
 

76Texan

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Well we got those 6



There is a salary cap and salary floor. The Texans will have to give out/ keep a few bad contracts to stay above that.

The actual have not had a real issue with that bottom number, which give us plenty to post about
 

steelbtexan

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If the Texans get RD1’s for both Watson and Tunsil….plus their RD1 pick, it would be 100% feasible to land Penning with the 2nd RD1 pick. Johnson would be an easy RD2 pick. Ford is probably there in RD3 and Mays should be available in RD5 or RD6…..which if need be, Caserio would have the assets to move up to draft him.

I’d think the Texans could wind up with an extra RD2 and/or RD3 picks from the Watson and Tunsil deals. These picks could certainly land top defensive players and solid RB’s to completely overall that sad group currently in uniform.
Or if they trade Watson they could just draft Penning to bookend with Tunsil and let Penning learn the NFL playing RT for a yr or 2 before transitioning to lT. Look at the 2020 LT class as rookies, Thomas really struggled/Becton struggled before getting hurt the last 2 seasons/Wirfs still plays on the right side. The only guy who played well but not to Tunsil's level (To be expected) was Wills. The learning curve entering the NFL at LT is really steep even for talented rookies. It takes most rookies atleast 1 season to get acclimated to the NFL.

If you really wanted to fix the OL, you could possibly trade Derrick for a high enough pick to draft Penning. Then trade down from #2 and pick Green. After that invest in FA to get the best OG available. This is in addition to keeping Tunsil.

This is what really investing in the OL looks like. I do have concerns over drafting another small school OL like Penning after getting burned by Howard and Scharping. But I think Penning is a really talented dude.

I seems to me after wanting Walker, then seeing him get dominated by Hutchinson and now the Penning fetish that you're in the anybody but all pro Tunsil group. Funny thing is out of that group Tunsil is by far the most proven player and you can only hope Penning/Walker turn out to be as good as Tunsil. (All Pro level) I think Penning may have a chance to get there eventually and I think there's no chance of Walker ever getting to that level of play.
 

76Texan

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The cap certainly isn't a reason to trade Tunsil.
You're right.
It's just that he serves no purpose.
You knew the Derrick's years would be lost.
Tunsil would just cost Caserio's the high first and second round picks.
And now you'd just leave him sitting there collecting his pay check while the Texans weren't going anywhere until 2024 at least.
You don't trust Campen to develop a player?
Or you don't trust Caserio's ability to find a LT?
 

ArlingtonTexan

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Yes, and thanks...a good read anyway
The league and the NFL Players Association have agreed to a salary cap ceiling of $208.2 million for 2022, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported Wednesday. Pelissero noted that there is not currently an agreed-to cap floor and that the final cap figure will not be set until next February.
 

steelbtexan

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You're right.
It's just that he serves no purpose.
You knew the Derrick's years would be lost.
Tunsil would just cost Caserio's the high first and second round picks.
And now you'd just leave him sitting there collecting his pay check while the Texans weren't going anywhere until 2024 at least.
You don't trust Campen to develop a player?
Or you don't trust Caserio's ability to find a LT?
It serves a purpose, protecting your young QB.

The difference is why would you trade a pro bowl player with 3 yrs left on his deal when you can put off that decision atleast a couple of yrs and see how the rebuild goes.

I believe that Caserio POSSIBLY can draft a pro bowl LT but those guys dont grow on trees. Also it's possible Campen develop a pro bowl LT. He developed Bahktiari, but it's also more likely Campen wont be the OL coach after Culley and staff have served their purpose. At that time I want the new staff to be making the decision on whether to trade or keep a 30 yr old Tunsil.
 

76Texan

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It serves a purpose, protecting your young QB.

The difference is why would you trade a pro bowl player with 3 yrs left on his deal when you can put off that decision atleast a couple of yrs and see how the rebuild goes.

I believe that Caserio POSSIBLY can draft a pro bowl LT but those guys dont grow on trees. Also it's possible Campen develop a pro bowl LT. He developed Bahktiari, but it's also more likely Campen wont be the OL coach after Culley and staff have served their purpose. At that time I want the new staff to be making the decision on whether to trade or keep a 30 yr old Tunsil.
You get a Bakhtiari or Spencer or Duane Brown; they can start right away, even if Brown played two out of every three series.

Take the money that you paid Tunsil and you can get yourself 2 more good offensive linemen in FA if you so choose.

Makes more sense to me.
 

steelbtexan

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You get a Bakhtiari or Spencer or Duane Brown; they can start right away, even if Brown played two out of every three series.

Take the money that you paid Tunsil and you can get yourself 2 more good offensive linemen in FA if you so choose.

Makes more sense to me.
Brown didn't play right away and certainly wasn't at the level Tunsil is currently at. It took Brown a year and a half to become a mid starter level LT and he really improved going into his 3rd yr. This is why I said keep Tunsil through this contract and maybe even draft a rookie and start him out at RT, then make the decision if you want to keep Tunsil or not after the young guy has been trained up. It's not like you're going to need Tunsil's cap space before 2024 anyways. Although you might need the cap space in the 2023 offseason if the rebuild goes well and then you can trade Tunsil for picks then and use his cap space to fill in other holes on the team to finish out the rebuild.

Seems like a more prudent thing to do rather than hope you hit on a draft pick and if you miss your screwed approach that past GM's took and the approach that lead to the Tunsil trade to begin with.
 

leebigeztx

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You said yourself that you don't expect the Texans to be truly competitive until 2024.
How old will Tunsil be then? And how much will he cost?
I don't see it as a bad idea to trade him and find some young blood in the draft.

It's no secret that Tunsil (though overpaid) and Britt (though below average) can still make the Oline better as a whole.
Nobody was disputing that.
Tunsil is 27 and looking at the way he plays, he can be good even at 30. Whitworth is like 39, Duane Brown is 36. If you trade Tunsil, you will have the same problem Miami is having trying to replace him even with the draft pick.
 

leebigeztx

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You get a Bakhtiari or Spencer or Duane Brown; they can start right away, even if Brown played two out of every three series.

Take the money that you paid Tunsil and you can get yourself 2 more good offensive linemen in FA if you so choose.

Makes more sense to me.
Do you trust this regime to develop offensive line talent?
 

leebigeztx

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You're right.
It's just that he serves no purpose.
You knew the Derrick's years would be lost.
Tunsil would just cost Caserio's the high first and second round picks.
And now you'd just leave him sitting there collecting his pay check while the Texans weren't going anywhere until 2024 at least.
You don't trust Campen to develop a player?
Or you don't trust Caserio's ability to find a LT?
I trust Campen more than Caserio, but Kelly and his scheme is terrible.
 

leebigeztx

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Overpaid is a relative term. Relatively speaking, LT’s are all overpaid unless still playing under their rookie contract. Hate the handling of his contract not the player.
There are some terrific OT’s in next years class, we’ll just have to wait and see how motivated Caserio is to use a high pick on one?

If Texans drafted Evan Neal, Alabama, he would look awful good as a bookend to Tunsil. Contracts would offset, and add stud Center, early 2nd Tyler Linderbaum, Iowa, might just fix the Texans OL for next four or five years. Then Mills will have his protection and RB’s lanes to exploit.
When has any of those Alabama oline players been worth a damn in the NFL. I will wait
 

beerlover

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When has any of those Alabama oline players been worth a damn in the NFL. I will wait
There are really too many to name and not necessarily the higher picks, which you may be driving at but in general across the board, do very well.

Bradley Bozeman drafted in the 6th round has been a starting OG for the Baltimore Ravens
Jonah Williams is the Bengals starting LT
Jedrick Willis is the Browns starting LT
Ryan Kelly is the Colts starting Center
 

Speedy

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Tunsil is 27 and looking at the way he plays, he can be good even at 30. Whitworth is like 39, Duane Brown is 36. If you trade Tunsil, you will have the same problem Miami is having trying to replace him even with the draft pick.
Just because the Dolphins haven’t found a replacement doesn’t mean the Texans can’t. You know, Tunsil was a draft pick once. Those guys come from somewhere.
 

76Texan

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Brown didn't play right away and certainly wasn't at the level Tunsil is currently at. It took Brown a year and a half to become a mid starter level LT and he really improved going into his 3rd yr. This is why I said keep Tunsil through this contract and maybe even draft a rookie and start him out at RT, then make the decision if you want to keep Tunsil or not after the young guy has been trained up. It's not like you're going to need Tunsil's cap space before 2024 anyways. Although you might need the cap space in the 2023 offseason if the rebuild goes well and then you can trade Tunsil for picks then and use his cap space to fill in other holes on the team to finish out the rebuild.

Seems like a more prudent thing to do rather than hope you hit on a draft pick and if you miss your screwed approach that past GM's took and the approach that lead to the Tunsil trade to begin with.
Brown started right away (but he played two of every three series).
Tunsil is not having a good year.
Brown's rookie year was better than this, or at least the same.
It was better than Bakhtiari's rookie year.
I still have the game films.
I studied Brown since his college days and actually peg him for the Texans so I follow him very closely.
(I also studied all the Texans linemen in those years during the regular season as well as in the off-season. I even posted numerous games' play by play that included observation on the blocking).

But you're confident about Caserio's ability to draft a good lineman (it's not that hard in the first round this year).
You're also confident that Campen can coach him up so what's the holdup?
Besides, you don't expect the team to really compete until 2024.

The cap space can be roll over or you can use it right away to upgrade the line, giving more protection to the QB, hello?
 
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76Texan

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I trust Campen more than Caserio, but Kelly and his scheme is terrible.
See my reply to steelb in the post above.

Also, I need to emphasize that all my responses to steelb was with his assumptions that (1) Caserio is a good talent evaluator, and (2) Campen can develop linemen - see Bakhtiari for example.
 

steelbtexan

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Just because the Dolphins haven’t found a replacement doesn’t mean the Texans can’t. You know, Tunsil was a draft pick once. Those guys come from somewhere.
Yes, they do and when they find those guys they hold onto them unless they get a BOB type deal and even then most of the time they struggle to find another as good as the all pro they traded, or let go in fa.

Example, CIncy let Whitworth walk to the Rams. Cincy spent yrs trying to find their LT and their team/ol sucked for yrs. Meanwhile the Rams have been regular playoff participants. The DB trade is another example. This should be a cautionary for some, but apparently it's not for some. Luckily Caserio doesn't fall into this group.
 


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