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Vince Young has NO class

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Who really cares how you dress around this president. It's still a free country or at least more in the past than it is now. Keep all the political crap off the MB. And why do you care if VY talks correctly whenever are own president can't pronouunce NUCLEAR correctly. I'm not a VY supporter but this isn't the 1940's, 50's or 60's. Catch up with the times or you'll get left behind! TEXANS FOR TRADEDOWN!!!
 
WILLIEG said:
Who really cares how you dress around this president. It's still a free country or at least more in the past than it is now. Keep all the political crap off the MB. And why do you care if VY talks correctly whenever are own president can't pronouunce NUCLEAR correctly. I'm not a VY supporter but this isn't the 1940's, 50's or 60's. Catch up with the times or you'll get left behind! TEXANS FOR TRADEDOWN!!!
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you are aware we have an entire section of this MB dedicated to politics riiight?
 
Well I tell you, from what was posted he sounds like a cross between a Chad Johnson and T.O. and we do not want a T.O.. Yes his talent but not the attitude. Hopefully he's between the two, or actually behind and hope that it's not an early sign for his sake.
 
Sounds like someone has a problem with society (and certain cultures) and not so much Vince. Open your eyes, Vince isn't much different from the rest of this generation.
 
Some of you Young haters are absolutely hopeless.

With that in mind, I realize your opinion will not change. Just know that I'll take pleasure in knowing that every successful step he takes will cause you one more sleepless night. Must suck to be in your shoes.

He's classless because he said he was "cashing" in on his opportunity. Holy (expletive). :rolleyes:
 
David's Busted Carr said:
1) During his pro announcement he REPEATED over and over how he need to "cash in" on this opportunity. Not to mention the guy can could not even speak proper English and shows up to make the biggest decision of his life with a crooked hat and baggy sweat shirt on.
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Thats what I call proper english.
 
u criticize a guy for saying he's ready to make the money he has worked hard for. he also had nothing to do with the prices of the autographs.
this post is ludacris.
 
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Vinny said:
When Terry Bradshaw was a young quarterback someone said that Terry Bradshaw was so dumb that he couldn't spell cat if you spotted him a C and an A.
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HollyWood Henderson said that, and he was right <grin>

And when can we add a spell check feature? It's one thing to read ignorant posts, but quite another when they prove it with poor spelling :)
 
Vinny said:
The problem with the Texans is they are too worried about the "face of the franchise" and need to find some real football players....mean, nasty and all that 'punch you in the mouth' stuff that comes with real football players. I'm more worried about how they play on the field and not how they look in GQ.
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This is the best post in this entire train wreck of a thread. We HAD our "Faces of the Franchise". Tony Boselli & David Carr, handsome & holy West Coast golden boys. Boy, could they speak great english. Did I mention they were white football players, oh the joy. You guys are looking like complete BIGOTED LOSERS when you get on Vince for his grammar & pronunciation. How many of you freaking hypocrits grew up in the WARD? Not many.

Do I think his Vince & his people made a mistake in him not dressing properly for the visit, you bet. Does it have a damn thing to do with him as a Football Player, no. I've seen every snap he's taken at Texas. He has ALWAYS respected his teammates, coaches, and opponents on the field.

You losers want a baller, or Dennis Miller leading this team? Who cares about his English? I guarantee every GD player on that field speaks ebonics. I'd rather hear a victory speech in ebonics than an eloquent losers speech.

Oh, by the way.

How was Earl Campbells english?

Hakeem Olajuwans?

Steve McNair?

Bum Phillips?

Jose Cruz?


Yeah, that's what I thought.
 
swtbound07 said:
I was in jeans and a t-shirt....he seemed to be okay with my apparent lack of decorum.
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BUT you weren't in the White House and he wasn't President at the time. GWB has ultimate respect for the White House and requires everyone who works there to dress in suits. He always wears a coat and tie in the Oval Office.

This issue is about respect of the office and the White House. Every other Longhorn in attendance remembered their suits, but is VY so irresponsible that he had to have a relative bring it for him? They flew into DC that morning. Why couldn't he have worn the suit on the trip (probably like everyone else).

This is not an idictment of his atheletic ability - but of his judgement. He has a lot of growing up to do.
 
LOL, why would he care (look at his avatar). As a matter of fact, why are you here castofsna? Shouldn't you be at the dolphins board, debating about TO & Ricky?
 
I posted this on the other thread so here is some logic to stick your teeth into


what is funny is people are bashing Bush and Young for this... but how many can honestly say if they weren't in those young men's position that they wouldn't take it..

Seriously..everybody in the NFL is one play away from ending their career.
 
Porky said:
I replied and it said the thread was locked. To keep it short and simple here are my points -
I find it very hard to believe someone could not find a decent suit to wear.
I am certainly not saying we shouldn't draft him, but it does knock him down a peg in my book. I dont think we are drafting him anyway, so the point is moot.
I do think he will be a success in the NFL at QB, but I hope he understands that he is not above the team, and that he matures as he gets older. Most do, a few don't. I think he will.
Lastly, we can agree to disagree about this. Some..dare I say many of us hold certain things in very high regard. One of those is paying proper respect to the office of the Presidency. There is no need to insult our sensibilites, or patronize us. Those of you who see it differently, I have no problem with, but I would prefer it if you then treat me with the same courtesy and respect I show you. (not anyone in specific, being general)
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Do you mean respect the President the same way the media respects him. Or maybe the way most of the general population treats him.

Get over it and don't be so full of yourself. It is a game that young men play and old men watch. So just watch and let the young men play!!!
 
LoneStarState said:
BUT you weren't in the White House and he wasn't President at the time. GWB has ultimate respect for the White House and requires everyone who works there to dress in suits. He always wears a coat and tie in the Oval Office.

This issue is about respect of the office and the White House. Every other Longhorn in attendance remembered their suits, but is VY so irresponsible that he had to have a relative bring it for him? They flew into DC that morning. Why couldn't he have worn the suit on the trip (probably like everyone else).

This is not an idictment of his atheletic ability - but of his judgement. He has a lot of growing up to do.
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These are college kids, everyone of them has alot of growing up to do. Obviously no one really has the complete story on why he didn't have one, but everyone in the world could tell he was very embarassed by it and missed out on a chance to really shine on a big stage. Well I guarantee you learned his lesson and that is all that really matters.

With as many times as he has shined on the big stage, I think I will give him this one.
 
Cheroqui said:
Well I tell you, from what was posted he sounds like a cross between a Chad Johnson and T.O. and we do not want a T.O.. Yes his talent but not the attitude. Hopefully he's between the two, or actually behind and hope that it's not an early sign for his sake.
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Have you noticed the team chemistry on the Longhorns lately. They haven't had that kind of bond in a very long time until VY was the leader. The year before Benson was the leader and the year before that Roy Williams was the leader. Both of which had chemistry problems, especially with each other. The team wasn't near as tight as they were this year.

Do you not know how Vince got his young receivers to come during the off-season to work on their timing. He did the same thing the week before the Ohio State game and always did everything with the team in mind and #1 winning.

Since when does T.O. care about timing? Since when does T.O. care about winning? And since when does T.O. do anything as a teammate or with another teammate?

Take a little more time in your responses and actually think about what you are going to type, before you type it.
 
YoungnotBush said:
Have you noticed the team chemistry on the Longhorns lately. They haven't had that kind of bond in a very long time until VY was the leader. The year before Benson was the leader and the year before that Roy Williams was the leader. Both of which had chemistry problems, especially with each other. The team wasn't near as tight as they were this year.

Do you not know how Vince got his young receivers to come during the off-season to work on their timing. He did the same thing the week before the Ohio State game and always did everything with the team in mind and #1 winning.

Since when does T.O. care about timing? Since when does T.O. care about winning? And since when does T.O. do anything as a teammate or with another teammate?

Take a little more time in your responses and actually think about what you are going to type, before you type it.
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Since he went to Arizona during the off-season to work with McNabb. Since he came back in time to play in the superbowl to help his team regardless of the health consequences. Since he speaks his mind and says what he sees wrong with the team. Since he says what some of his team mates are thinking. Vince was the QB last yr. when Benson was there and when Williams was there, why wasn't he the leader then. Maybe It should be you who anylized the situation. I like T.O. and interpret his actions differently than you do, but I take everything into account.
 
dat_boy_yec said:
Since he went to Arizona during the off-season to work with McNabb. Since he came back in time to play in the superbowl to help his team regardless of the health consequences. Since he speaks his mind and says what he sees wrong with the team. Since he says what some of his team mates are thinking. Vince was the QB last yr. when Benson was there and when Williams was there, why wasn't he the leader then. Maybe It should be you who anylized the situation. I like T.O. and interpret his actions differently than you do, but I take everything into account.
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YoungnotBush said:
These are college kids, everyone of them has alot of growing up to do.
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This is the lamest excuse possible. Most college students know when it was appropriate to where a suit, sit up straight, to show proper respect. All I'm saying is that VY should be responsible enough to handle such a simple situation. I am impressed by his atheletic abilities, but not so much by his judgement on this particular issue. He knew before he left Houston or where ever he was before going to DC that he would be front and center at this ceremony, but still couldn't dress appropriately? I would have been hiding and acting a little hesitant too, if I were him. He's old enough to know better. Sorry. "He forgot" or "his relative didn't get it to him" is no excuse.
 
Lmao.........dude by the way you guys talk so much **** about Vince Young makes me think that ya racist.For real man,especillay if your ganna criticize him......it always has to be white ppl to talk about his appearance.I'm sorry I have to say it that way but thats what its given to understand.If the guy came out in his P.Js Who would give a ****?!?!?
All I know is that the guy has talent.He damn well proved it at the Rose Bowl, not to mention all season long.
Think it over ppl!!!!!!!!!!
David Carr aint nothing but a damn showboat,we need a leader not a QB thats chokes everygame.So sad that we extended his contract........
 
Vinny said:
I'm a much bigger Texans fan than I am any fan of any player. I can live without Young here....If Carr was gone...you would be gone too. I know that.
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The best post on this thread. Thank you for putting this cat on blast! I see more cats that claim to be Texan (Carr) fans from California by the day.
 
Texan_X said:
Lmao.........dude by the way you guys talk so much **** about Vince Young makes me think that ya racist.For real man,especillay if your ganna criticize him......it always has to be white ppl to talk about his appearance.I'm sorry I have to say it that way but thats what its given to understand.If the guy came out in his P.Js Who would give a ****?!?!?
All I know is that the guy has talent.He damn well proved it at the Rose Bowl, not to mention all season long.
Think it over ppl!!!!!!!!!!
David Carr aint nothing but a damn showboat,we need a leader not a QB thats chokes everygame.So sad that we extended his contract........
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Say chief, calm down. I'll tell you bit about this MB. People on this board have the tendency to shoot down "claims" of race on all fronts. It's ok for the leader of our free country to have the oratory skills of Charlie Brown's teacher but not athletes. I get that one.
 
someone explain to me the logic of being forced to show reverence for the president. If you have a person who in your opinion lacks...morals, character, ethics, good judgement, intelligence, common sense, and charisma, why would you go out of your way to show him respect? In my opinion the man is criminal, which i know is debatable, so i surely wouldnt go out of my way to get fancied up to shake his hand. So i guess my question is, what makes him special?

option 1) Because so few people have the opportunity to meet the president!
Noooope. By that logic, even less people get to meet me everyday....put on a suit before you come over to watch the game, okay?

option 2) Because it is the epitome of government in our land!
Noooope. Our government is so far bent backwards its not even funny...all the current administration has done is strip americans of their personal liberties, and manage to get a good deal of them killed in foreign countries.

option 3) Because it's proper etiquette!
Strike 3. The rules of etiquette only apply to those who voluntarily enter into them...its an entirely arbitrary standard of who wears what when.

I completely understand that im going to get fried for this post, but im tired of people saying young disrespected the president....seriously, he is an elected official, supposedly from the common man...not a king. Get over yourselves people, it was a sweatshirt.
 
swtbound07 said:
someone explain to me the logic of being forced to show reverence for the president. If you have a person who in your opinion lacks...morals, character, ethics, good judgement, intelligence, common sense, and charisma, why would you go out of your way to show him respect? In my opinion the man is criminal, which i know is debatable, so i surely wouldnt go out of my way to get fancied up to shake his hand. So i guess my question is, what makes him special?

option 1) Because so few people have the opportunity to meet the president!
Noooope. By that logic, even less people get to meet me everyday....put on a suit before you come over to watch the game, okay?

option 2) Because it is the epitome of government in our land!
Noooope. Our government is so far bent backwards its not even funny...all the current administration has done is strip americans of their personal liberties, and manage to get a good deal of them killed in foreign countries.

option 3) Because it's proper etiquette!
Strike 3. The rules of etiquette only apply to those who voluntarily enter into them...its an entirely arbitrary standard of who wears what when.

I completely understand that im going to get fried for this post, but im tired of people saying young disrespected the president....seriously, he is an elected official, supposedly from the common man...not a king. Get over yourselves people, it was a sweatshirt.
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I agree with you. But I will say his sins (in my eyes) are no reason to disrespect him. Do I feel VY disrespected him? No. The Office of the Presidency isn't a person, it's an instution.
 
kbourda said:
I agree with you. But I will say his sins (in my eyes) are no reason to disrespect him. Do I feel VY disrespected him? No. The Office of the Presidency isn't a person, it's an instution.
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we can discuss the institution too....i mean i feel basically the same way.
 
Ok, I've tried to hold my peace! I am sick, tired, and fed up with the assumption and stereotype of women being gossipers. Emotional or passionate about certain issues, absolutely, but vicious, backbiting, unrelenting in turning every pebble, rock and mountain if possible to sow discord -- usually a man is on the otherside of that pen. :stirpot: :)
 
Hello? Vince went to Madison High School last time I checked, not Bellaire. He is from Hiram Clarke not River Oaks and what you consider sloppy is well dressed in his world. Like any junior at a state university anywhere is supposed to have a closet full of suits. Private schools and Ivy league OK, but we are talking UT in Austin. Birkenstock capital of the world. Some of you should think before you post.
 
swtbound07 said:
someone explain to me the logic of being forced to show reverence for the president. If you have a person who in your opinion lacks...morals, character, ethics, good judgement, intelligence, common sense, and charisma, why would you go out of your way to show him respect? In my opinion the man is criminal, which i know is debatable, so i surely wouldnt go out of my way to get fancied up to shake his hand. So i guess my question is, what makes him special?
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Well your beliefs are fine for you, but do you have any reason in the world to believe they explain VY's actions? If not they may be good for your hypothetical dilemma of meeting the president but are irrelevant for VY.
 
pv1999 said:
Like any junior at a state university anywhere is supposed to have a closet full of suits. Private schools and Ivy league OK, but we are talking UT in Austin. Birkenstock capital of the world. Some of you should think before you post.
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Seriously, did you think about this post? Young has appeared in public in suits several times already. Despite being raised naked by wolves, he obviously has managed to start his closet of suits. Some of these justifications are as bad as the criticisms. It was a gaff--a very, very small gaff.
 
Texan_X said:
Lmao.........dude by the way you guys talk so much **** about Vince Young makes me think that ya racist.For real man,especillay if your ganna criticize him......it always has to be white ppl to talk about his appearance.I'm sorry I have to say it that way but thats what its given to understand.If the guy came out in his P.Js Who would give a ****?!?!?
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Stay with the times scooter--this is the second "how did they dress to meet the president" controversy of the past year. The first one involved a bunch of white girls.
 
LMBH said:
Ok, I've tried to hold my peace! I am sick, tired, and fed up with the assumption and stereotype of women being gossipers. Emotional or passionate about certain issues, absolutely, but vicious, backbiting, unrelenting in turning every pebble, rock and mountain if possible to sow discord -- usually a man is on the otherside of that pen. :stirpot: :)
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You are right, Men and Women gossip equally today....much of 'today's Man' is a product of the Womens lib movement and being raised with no men in the household.... now I see more and more men acting like women (hey...no fault of their own I guess)..... We never had metrosexuals when I was a kid, but we had more Men in households where boys are being raised than we do now.

:redtowel:
 
As an older white man I suppose my opinion of this doesn't count but, regardless of the current occupant of the White House, my mother would freak if I went to the White House in a hoodie .... then again she's an old white woman ...
 
We have another forum where we have been discussing the VP shooting a man, accidentally, and I have not seen you comment on the effects of the White House office. I suppose your esteem for the WH is only when it suits your agenda and in this case it is focused on surface fodder for a 23 year old kid.

It really is posts like this that make me want VY to come to the Texans more and more. Don't sign me up for VY petition yet, but if there is one thing that I can count on that kid doing, it is overcoming adversity via mental and physical challenges.
 
Lets stop the race banter right here please. Both ways...It just gets too explosive, and this isn't the forum to discuss this topic.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
We have another forum where we have been discussing the VP shooting a man, accidentally, and I have not seen you comment on the effects of the White House office. I suppose your esteem for the WH is only when it suits your agenda and in this case it is focused on surface fodder for a 23 year old kid.

It really is posts like this that make me want VY to come to the Texans more and more. Don't sign me up for VY petition yet, but if there is one thing that I can count on that kid doing, it is overcoming adversity via mental and physical challenges.
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please expound on the word "you"
 
chuckm said:
please expound on the word "you"
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You is the second person plural pronoun in English. In standard English, it serves as the second person singular pronoun as well.

And in this thread, the you would be the thread starter.
 
I posted this another time but here we go..and I'm not for drafting the guy, just not a person who bashes because I don't want to pick him.

First of all people have a right to their opinion but I find it HILARIOUS that people are calling VY immature without knowing a thing about him and because he dances and all yet people are called morons and name called..even told to leave the board..lol...if we don't just act like a drone, want Bush and Carr and just love the status quo and kiss tail. That reeks of hypocrisy. If you want to say don't take VY because we don't need him and you think Bush is a better fit...like me...then more power to you..just don't MAKE UP reasons not to like a guy that sound like third grade. ALL three of the top guys are class and quality guys and they all bring their own talents. I'll keep repeating it until I'm blue in the face but I'm not going to be a 35 year old guy who acts like a grade school kid because I want to draft someone else. I can want Bush and read stuff like below and still respect a man even though IMHO we don't need him. I don't even like Carr but am willing to give him a shot with a stud RB and a new coach. Doesn't mean I'm going to demean VY for putting himself in the position he is in by being a winner.

"Houston is fortunate to have three major-league sports teams plus other outstanding athletes. Despite their tremendous abilities and their substantial salaries, rarely do they give back to the community in proportion to their wealth--either in funds or time

Vince Young lost the Heisman, but one day last week he won the hearts of many patients at the Texas Children's Hospital. Without an obvious agent, with absolutely no fee, he talked to the children, signed autographs, took pictures and generally endeared himself forever.

The athletes of my generation were our idols and generally good role models. Houston's superstars need to take lessons form a superstar of tomorrow."

--Milton Nirken, M.D.
 
Texas_Thrill said:
Again....this thread is ridiculous.

Has VY ever been in trouble with the law? Has he ever been caught doing drugs? Beat on his g/f? Got in fights?

I mean do you guys hear what you are tripping on. HIS CLOTHES!!!!

I mean the president had a drinking problem....so now he's in a suit. Whoopity dang do.

If I wondered why we have the 1st pick in the draft I can't say I wonder anymore. We are more worried about a player's OUTFIT than his SKILLS.
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You guys have no freaking clue do you? It's NOT about his clothes. The point was that the guy has NO RESPECT, is selfish, and thinks he is above EVERYONE. If you cannot respect the President then who will you respect? Forgot his suit? Give me a ********* break. Don't tell me you didn't know when you were invited to the White House. The guy just plain didn't give a ******.
 
David's Busted Carr said:
You guys have no freaking clue do you? It's NOT about his clothes. The point was that the guy has NO RESPECT, is selfish, and thinks he is above EVERYONE. If you cannot respect the President then who will you respect? Forgot his suit? Give me a ********* break. Don't tell me you didn't know when you were invited to the White House. The guy just plain didn't give a ******.
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Dude puts his pants on one leg at a time just like everyone else...Side note...Ozzie Guillen completely passed on his invite to see mr. Bush.....Anybody going to call him young and immature? If Vince Young had gone up on that stage in a suit and screamed out "George Bush doesn't care about black people" you same people would have been all over him for that too. So again I pose the question...if its not appropriate to skip the event, and its not appropriate to speak out about him, and its not appropriate to improperly dress, what exactly IS proper protocol for meeting the president if you are less than fond of him? Sit down, shut up, smile, and nod politely? Thats complete and utter ridiculousness if you ask me.
 
David's Busted Carr said:
You guys have no freaking clue do you? It's NOT about his clothes. The point was that the guy has NO RESPECT, is selfish, and thinks he is above EVERYONE. If you cannot respect the President then who will you respect? Forgot his suit? Give me a ********* break. Don't tell me you didn't know when you were invited to the White House. The guy just plain didn't give a ******.
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Again, you have no clue and obviously are just flaming because you just don't want to draft him. Stop screaming like a child who got his toy taken away.

"Houston is fortunate to have three major-league sports teams plus other outstanding athletes. Despite their tremendous abilities and their substantial salaries, rarely do they give back to the community in proportion to their wealth--either in funds or time

Vince Young lost the Heisman, but one day last week he won the hearts of many patients at the Texas Children's Hospital. Without an obvious agent, with absolutely no fee, he talked to the children, signed autographs, took pictures and generally endeared himself forever.

The athletes of my generation were our idols and generally good role models. Houston's superstars need to take lessons form a superstar of tomorrow."

--Milton Nirken, M.D.
 
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