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Vince Young has NO class

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I will probably get bashed for making this post, but here goes anyway.

If the Texans are looking to keep their "high class" player image they DO NOT want Vince Young. I have really tried to like the guy, but he keeps making me hate him.

1) During his pro announcement he REPEATED over and over how he need to "cash in" on this opportunity. Not to mention the guy can could not even speak proper English and shows up to make the biggest decision of his life with a crooked hat and baggy sweat shirt on.

2) He then immediately starting "cashing in" by charging $80 for non personalized autographs and charged an extra $100 for a picture with him.

OK so even if you overlook those 2 acts and blame it on a bad PR manager or immaturity, what he did yesterday really did it in for me.

The Texas Longhorns are invited to THE WHITE HOUSE to meet THE PRESIDENT OF UNITED STATES. As the camera scrolls on CNN all the players are wearing very nice suits and ties until it gets to Vince Young. Vince is wearing some baggy jeans with some tennis shoes and a hoodie sweat shirt.

Who does this guy think he is? Have some repect for your elders, your peers, and most of all the country you live in which is about to let you make MILLIONS of dollars for someone who could not even pass their S.A.T. test.

I DO NOT want this guy as the face of our franchise.
 
Couldn't agree more,

thug is not professional dress, he wants to be a pro act it, or enter the NBA draft and play with Iverson
 
I say we throw him in the river...if he floats he is made of wood...then we should burn him.

The problem with the Texans is they are too worried about the "face of the franchise" and need to find some real football players....mean, nasty and all that 'punch you in the mouth' stuff that comes with real football players. I'm more worried about how they play on the field and not how they look in GQ.
 
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13 suits and 1 pair of Jeans with sweatshirt in the pic...least he knew to remove his crookedass hat
 
Vinny said:
I say we throw him in the river...if he floats he is made of wood...then we should burn him.
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Very small rocks... Anybody know where we can get a duck?

Completely aside from who this player is (i.e. I don't think this is unique or particular to VY but is more a societal thing), kids should be taught and expected to act in accordance with some standards of appropriate conduct. I didn't like it when whatever women's team (softball I think) half showed up to the Whitehouse in flip-flops and I don't like it that VY can't be bothered to wear one of the very nice suits someone gave him to wear to the awards ceremonies and the draft. It is disrespectful, but it is more a reflection on these kids parents and society than them.
 
VY has a thing about not bending to the what society says he should bend toward. I understand a certain amount of militants and irreverence and as long as VY does not cross that line and begin to embarass the struggle I will be happy to see the guy from around my way do his thing. I think he may need to have a talk with his publicist and become more marketable to white society other than Austin and UT men and women, but right now he is really beginning to cater to that MTV crowd so do your thing. This thread does border a bit on that fine line though.
 
it has been stated about him getting away from the gang issues he had here when he was younger...if he were to sign an NFL contract here, everyone from his past will be trying to get a piece of him...could be a distraction.
 
Frills said:
it has been stated about him getting away from the gang issues he had here when he was younger...if he were to sign an NFL contract here, everyone from his past will be trying to get a piece of him...could be a distraction.
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Hey half the forum want's Ray Lewis too...and he was in a car with men who killed someone in an alley. Young dresses badly and we bash him. I get it.
 
In everyline of work you have to bend to what society wants, its called being professional.

This would be against the NBA dresscode.

There's a difference between being an individual and being respectful...VY doesn't know it.

What fly's in the liberal slanted Austin won't fly in the professional world
 
stevo3883 said:
gig' em?
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Boomer, but its completely beside the point. OU has had 3 QB come out that ran the spread, none were worth a damn in the NFL. Thats the difference, most fans know that someone can be great in college but not the NFL, UT fans haven't figured it out.
 
Vinny said:
Hey half the forum want's Ray Lewis too...and he was in a car with men who killed someone in an alley. Young dresses badly and we bash him. I get it.
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I agree with you .People are now bashing on VY because he doesnt dress to their standards.I really dont care how someone dresses as long as they get it done on the field.Yall people are just haters.I dont see yall supporting DC for having class.Yall keep saying he(DC) has no leadership skills but yet he does all the proper things like showing class and yall still hate on him.
 
Vinny said:
The problem with the Texans is they are too worried about the "face of the franchise" and need to find some real football players....mean, nasty and all that 'punch you in the mouth' stuff that comes with real football players. I'm more worried about how they play on the field and not how they look in GQ.
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yeah, imagine that...we might actually have a *gasp!* winning season if we got some smashmouth players. :hmmm:

I'm amazed at the length people will go to bash a player. Dislike him for his on-field performance, but c'mon, dissing a guy over what he wears?! What are we, fashion police?

"Professional" world? As in "corporate" world? Sorry, dude, these guys are FOOTBALL players, not executives, and I'm not buying into this "no class" business.

I'm not a Young homer/hater. I just find takes like this a bit distasteful.
 
FYI Mack can send him somewhere and get him a suit, it no longer violates NCAA rules.

Glad he's making good decisions on who to let handle everyday affairs
 
If you go to the White House, you wear a suit. I'm sorry, but you should respect the President regardless of your political affiliations. He had no problem wearing a suit to the Heisman ceremony and college football awards. And if he realized that he didn't have a suit while he was in Washington, he could have bought one. There are tons of stores and malls in the DC metro area, and he would have no problem buying a suit to wear to the White House.
 
Khari said:
But when Bush singled him out, Brown admitted: “He didn’t bring his suit.” Later Brown said a relative failed to get it to Young, who has been traveling.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/13872399.htm

all this fuss over flipflops and a missing suit....:rolleyes:
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still, its the idea of it all. you have to have the respect for the place and person you're seeing. there is no way that, once he got there, he couldn't have gotten a suit in D.C. somewhere. he's a great althelte but his class really comes into question with this. oh, and when i saw the thing in the newpaper about him charging $100 for a picture, i almost choked on my toast. guy could really use some lessons in humility.
 
Double Barrel said:
yeah, imagine that...we might actually have a *gasp!* winning season if we got some smashmouth players. :hmmm:

I'm amazed at the length people will go to bash a player. Dislike him for his on-field performance, but c'mon, dissing a guy over what he wears?! What are we, fashion police?

"Professional" world? As in "corporate" world? Sorry, dude, these guys are FOOTBALL players, not executives, and I'm not buying into this "no class" business.

I'm not a Young homer/hater. I just find takes like this a bit distasteful.
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I view it as distasteful and not respecting our government/country by not making damn sure everything is in order when visiting the White House. The volleyball team that wore flipflops is in the same league.

Look at the youth of today, most need a good thwack to the head to teach them some class and how to conduct themselves.
 
Frills said:
Look at the youth of today, most need a good thwack to the head to teach them some class and how to conduct themselves.
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If I was the youth of today and you come "thwacking" me on the head you would get your *** kicked for getting in my buisness. All you guys are gossipy like women...geez (no offense to the women out there)
 
Does anyone own a couple hundred pairs of boxing gloves so everyone on the board can get together at a playground somewhere and take out their tensions/aggressions there? We can divide into teams and either have a tag team event or else just a huge brawl.
 
Hey look, the POTUS can pardon anyone, and he even granted clemency to Vince Young for being suitless!

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Brown jumped in: "They didn't bring his suit."

"Oh, that's all right. He doesn't need a suit," Bush said, to the audience's cheers
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Hey, President Bush forgave him, why can't you? ;)
 
This is the first thing he has done that has really bothered me. I can't say I was wild about gouging for his sig, or how the very first thing he did was go out and buy an expensive sports car, but those were just the marks of someone getting money for the first time, and I overlooked them. But, when you go to meet the President at the White House, show some friggin respect, and wear a suit. Is that too much to ask? While I can appreciate the differences between the NFL and his private life, it says something to me, and it's not good. You have to conform on a football team too, and play by the rules, and show respect to the coaches and elders on the team. It gives me the feeling he thinks the rules may not apply to him because he is BMOC. No one player is above the team, and when you see every single one of these young men show the proper respect at the WH, and then you see him in casual clothes, it shows a complete lack of maturity and understanding. While I am still not entirely opposed to us drafting him, it's made me really think, and I am now teetering for sure. I guess it's safe to say I am off the "draft Vince" bandwagon. And, it's enough for me to change my avatar, which I will do some time today.
 
according to what i read young was shy and embarrassed about not having a suit. there's a blizzard up there, he's been traveling and somebody messed up not getting his suit to him (its not like he could go to foley's and pick one up). it sure looks bad but this is more a reflection of "bad management" than young being a thug. no professioonal management woulld let this happen.

give him a break. hopefully this is a lesson in taking care of your own business and not relying on others. his staff could be handling some stuff better, but everything i've read indicates they're genuine and have jamail, etc. watching out for vince's best interests.
 
Porky said:
I guess it's safe to say I am off the "draft Vince" bandwagon. And, it's enough for me to change my avatar, which I will do some time today.
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This has to be the dumbest reason I have ever seen to not like a prospect. You guys slay me....I need to go to hpf to talk some real football....this has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever seen out of some of you.
 
AtheGreat said:
oh, and when i saw the thing in the newpaper about him charging $100 for a picture, i almost choked on my toast. guy could really use some lessons in humility.
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Before the propaganda gets out of control, Young has stated many times that 100% of his autograph proceeds goes to charity.

Fans and collectors paid $99 to get their picture taken with Young and $79 for his signature, per item.

"It's not really about the pay," Young said at the end of the day. "It's giving back to the community. The money I get is going toward different things I've got set up for the community and foundations."
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Source
 
If a person cannot show respect for the president of the United States then it is doubtful he can show respect for anyone. Its all about drawing attention to yourself, something VY has been doing a lot of lately.

To me it shows more than a lack of respect of others, it in indicative of someone who lacks self respect. We really need that on the Texan team.

Young has a need to self promote. Why is this? Have you ever in your life seen a player compaign so hard to be drafted # 1. If he was all that great he would not feel a need to promote himself.

It's all about the $$ involved. Not a loyalty to T-sip fans, the U of Texas, the city of Houston or the State of Texas.

Wise up Vince, you were not even the best player in college, ( that player receives the Heisman Award ), and you certainly aren't the best player in the draft.

IMHO that is. :twocents:

:coffee:
 
Frills said:
Boomer, but its completely beside the point. OU has had 3 QB come out that ran the spread, none were worth a damn in the NFL. Thats the difference, most fans know that someone can be great in college but not the NFL, UT fans haven't figured it out.
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LOL, I knew this guy was an Sooner. I should have known by his ignorant backwoods comments about VY's IQ. I am hearing banjos as I type this.
 
Fighting Blue Hen said:
LOL, I knew this guy was an Sooner. I should have known by his ignorant backwoods comments about VY's IQ. I am hearing banjos as I type this.
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Name me 2 QB's that were successful in the NFL that ran the spread in college.
 
Steve McNair ran a playground offense at Alcorn State....There was the same talk about him never being able to run a sophisticated offense when the Oilers were looking at QB's.
 
cuppacoffee said:
If a person cannot show respect for the president of the United States then it is doubtful he can show respect for anyone. Its all about drawing attention to yourself, something VY has been doing a lot of lately.

To me it shows more than a lack of respect of others, it in indicative of someone who lacks self respect.
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President George Bush called out his name, but strangely, the outgoing Vince Young seemed to be hiding behind the other Texas players. Unlike his teammates, Young wasn't wearing a suit and tie for their visit to the White House. "He was supposed to bring it," Mack Brown explained. "Forgot."
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/sioncampus/02/15/college/index.html
 
wow...so it's come to this.....the flaming meteor spiraling towards houston of who to draft has splintered....it was once a giant raging we must have bush!! he is gayle sayers!! he may be the best most explosive player of all time!!! then the rose bowl...ahh the rose bowl....everyone ever affiliated with UT came out of the woodwork and all of a sudden vince would be curing cancer playing defense and left tackle while also with his uncomparable leadership skills turning us into a superbowl contender...did you know he is from houston?...then as the weeks went by...you heard whispers of trading..this is sensible...you know what maybe we should trade posts quietly rising....and now..vince didn't wear a suit so he can no longer play football because he is a thug...look in 5 years when vince busts or burns us twice a year nobody is going to look back and say..see if he had worn a suit to washington, it wouldn't have turned out like this!!! we all have opinions, mine is to trade down but c'mon people...he didn't wear a suit....
 
I replied and it said the thread was locked. To keep it short and simple here are my points -
I find it very hard to believe someone could not find a decent suit to wear.
I am certainly not saying we shouldn't draft him, but it does knock him down a peg in my book. I dont think we are drafting him anyway, so the point is moot.
I do think he will be a success in the NFL at QB, but I hope he understands that he is not above the team, and that he matures as he gets older. Most do, a few don't. I think he will.
Lastly, we can agree to disagree about this. Some..dare I say many of us hold certain things in very high regard. One of those is paying proper respect to the office of the Presidency. There is no need to insult our sensibilites, or patronize us. Those of you who see it differently, I have no problem with, but I would prefer it if you then treat me with the same courtesy and respect I show you. (not anyone in specific, being general)
 
cuppacoffee said:
If a person cannot show respect for the president of the United States then it is doubtful he can show respect for anyone. Its all about drawing attention to yourself, something VY has been doing a lot of lately.

To me it shows more than a lack of respect of others, it in indicative of someone who lacks self respect. We really need that on the Texan team.

Young has a need to self promote. Why is this? Have you ever in your life seen a player compaign so hard to be drafted # 1. If he was all that great he would not feel a need to promote himself.

It's all about the $$ involved. Not a loyalty to T-sip fans, the U of Texas, the city of Houston or the State of Texas.

Wise up Vince, you were not even the best player in college, ( that player receives the Heisman Award ), and you certainly aren't the best player in the draft.

IMHO that is. :twocents:

:coffee:
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Wise up Vince, you were not even the best player in college, ( that player receives the Heisman Award ), and you certainly aren't the best player in the draft.



Did you say that on rose bowl night? When he was holding the trophy.



we don't need VINCE!

CARR will take us to the SUPERBOWL!!!!! GIG EM' :ok:
 
I don't think it's fair to judge him on his attire....

however he is not an intellectual speaker compared to Reggie Bush....as a player Young has more heart....

Those factors will come to play in the decision for the 1st pick.
 
This has got to be the dumbest thread I've ever read.

Of all the things you can think of to bash a player on you're bashing his CLOTHES????

Please spare about the respect of the president. He was not reporting to a job he was going on a TOUR. Do you wear a suit to a tour of the white house out of respect for the prez?

Again ....one of the top 5 bonehead threads.
 
Hulk75 said:
I just throw up on my self Vinny. Are you kidding me.
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I'm a much bigger Texans fan than I am any fan of any player. I can live without Young here....If Carr was gone...you would be gone too. I know that.
 
Texas_Thrill said:
Please spare about the respect of the president. He was not reporting to a job he was going on a TOUR. Do you wear a suit to a tour of the white house out of respect for the prez?

Again ....one of the top 5 bonehead threads.
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Well I won't go with bonehead, but this response isn't exactly stellar either. When you go on a TOUR do you meet the Pres and have a photo op? Duh, no. It was a meeting with your nations leader. Friggin amazing. No one in the world would have any sympathy for a person who arrived at an IBM job interview in sweats and didn't get the job, but an athlete can't be criticized (not crucified, just as in he should have done now let's move on, no character assassination or even weighing against drafting) for not wearing a suit to see the President.
 
Again....this thread is ridiculous.

Has VY ever been in trouble with the law? Has he ever been caught doing drugs? Beat on his g/f? Got in fights?

I mean do you guys hear what you are tripping on. HIS CLOTHES!!!!

I mean the president had a drinking problem....so now he's in a suit. Whoopity dang do.

If I wondered why we have the 1st pick in the draft I can't say I wonder anymore. We are more worried about a player's OUTFIT than his SKILLS.
 
LMAO @ this terrible thread.


Please find yourselves something more to do.

"Hey, lets bash his..um..CLOTHES!!"

What a fanbase we have in the city of Houston. :redtowel: :brickwall
 
Infantry, I totally agree with you. If he was going for a interview wear a suit. He was not however going to an interview. To basically say this is a reason not to like VY is just totally preposterous.

If he was meeting with Cheney then I'd say he's meeting with the nation's leader but he was meeting with GW not DC. lol Sorry I couldn't help this shot. Don't pay attention to it.
 
This is causing a bigger flap than the flip-flop incident a few months ago.

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