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Crazy4Texas said:
I mean that he is a dime a dozen running back. He posted a average time for top running backs in the draft, he was lighter than most running backs in the past few drafts. I still do not see the hype, if he posted a 4.28 or 4.25 then heck yea I say that is something. At 5'10 202 4.35 is average for the top five running backs taken every year. He is solid for a wide reciever, but do the Texans need another reciever.
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Are we on candid camera with this troll?

:rolleyes:
 
LikeABoss said:
If we bring Eric Moulds and Reggie Bush in with the addition of Putzier, then Carr will have some pretty damn good weapons to work with. But the talent of the offenses in the past were nothing to brag about.
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yeah i meant the dudes we have already brought in this offseason....i mean one of the best receiving tight ends in the league in Putzier and Moulds a legitimate Number 2....arguable stille nough to be a number 1....now with AJ....
 
corvallis149 said:
Yeah. But he can't help our team. We have DD who rushed for 1000+ yards every season, and Jerome Mathis one of the best return man in NFL. Bush as a Wide Receiver? I saw few people saying that but that is ridiculous. If you look at him only as a wide receiver, he is definitely not worth 1st pick. And Reggie Bush will not lead our team to playoffs. RBs can't lead the team to playoffs. Neither can WR or a return man. Only QB can.
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We were 27th in the league in TDs and 10th in FGs...I think we need help turning more of those FGs into TDs...Bush would definately help.
 
Crazy4Texas said:
How many run 4.3, hold on let me do my research and I will get back with you. I know last year C. Williams and R Brown timed 4.3, I know just off the top of my head that Blaylock, Tomlinson, Dunn, Bennet, Holmes, Ducket, Maurice Drew, Kerry Carter, Justin Fargas, all ran 4.3 give me two hours and I bet I can research and find at least 30 that have run 4.3. Most of the guys on this list are bigger than Bush as well. I think he should have added weight like he claimed he has.
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40 time is overrated - however, his vision coupled with that speed, that strength, that agility and those hands are what makes him the number 1 pick by virtually every expert outside of Austin.
 
Crazy4Texas said:
Yea both injury prone, i have argued this already, look up in NFL.com and look at there numbers. Both have played like 8 or 9 season with only 4 of those years with 1000 yrd seasons.
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So how about Clinton Portis? Similiar size and weight at the combine (Height: 5-11 Weight: 204). How many games has he missed in his 4 years?

Oh wow look, Portis played for Kubiak and only put up TWO 1500 yard season. What are the chances? :sarcasm:
 
JAXwithanX said:
yeah that electronic thing is....i don't understand....did carroll go type that in himself or what?...lol
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Manually people usually stop a stopwatch faster then an electronic clock, because people anticipate someone crossing a line. If anything anyone timed manually should get time added on to their times.
 
Maybe I shouldn't do this but why not. :stirpot: It hasn't been said if Bush were running against the wind or with the wind. If he was running with the wind than he's slower than his time. If he was running against the wind than Whoa!!!
 
dat_boy_yec said:
Maybe I shouldn't do this but why not. :stirpot: It hasn't been said if Bush were running against the wind or with the wind. If he was running with the wind than he's slower than his time. If he was running against the wind than Whoa!!!
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He is the wind.
 
LCROD said:
Oh wow look, Portis played for Kubiak and only put up TWO 1500 yard season. What are the chances?
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They traded Portis, who they were not paying #1 money, for the top CB in the game. Very different situation and a very different ending than Bush supporters would like to hear.
 
I think the comparisons with Ronnie Brown are a bit of a reach.

Every knows Bush is fast (as he proved today). What surprised people last year was no one thought Brown was that fast (or even close to what he ran). I don't think Bush hurt his stock today at all.

I think the ultimate question will be Bush's ability to run inbetween the tackles in the NFL. If he can do that, then it will put defenses in a quandry in terms of matchups. If not, teams will just treat him like a wr who lines up in the backfield.

I think that is why Kubes goes back and forth when watching game tape. He's trying to figure out that question about Bush.
 
JAXwithanX said:
yeah i meant the dudes we have already brought in this offseason....i mean one of the best receiving tight ends in the league in Putzier and Moulds a legitimate Number 2....arguable stille nough to be a number 1....now with AJ....
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With the talent we are adding to the offense, I bet chu AJ will be soo happy he won't be seeing those double and triple teams no more:cool:
 
I think D'Brick is perfect, he sounds like a great guy, had steller numbers and is a real down to earth guy. Every year we say we are going to bring in a top OL and we never do. This draft is our chance. Next year you have Adrian Peterson and Brady Quinn both are arguably just as good as Bush and Young. Team, remember that word, our Team is weak at the OL not at RB. We are weaker at the QB spot than at the RB spot. They think Carr will pann out, and we knoe DD is great. Lets get the O'Line that can lift this team to the next level.
 
dat_boy_yec said:
Maybe I shouldn't do this but why not. :stirpot: It hasn't been said if Bush were running against the wind or with the wind. If he was running with the wind than he's slower than his time. If he was running against the wind than Whoa!!!
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Rumor has it Pete Carroll brought out huge warehouse fans and pointed them in Reggie Bush's direction. He wanted to prove that he wasn't the fastest person on earth.
 
DRAMA said:
40 time is overrated - however, his vision coupled with that speed, that strength, that agility and those hands are what makes him the number 1 pick by virtually every expert outside of Austin.
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i not only live in austin i go to UT...and realize Bush should and will be our number 1....so lets try to calm down on the generalizations....i could just as easily generalize the man-lovers for Bush....
 
texan_b said:
Manually people usually stop a stopwatch faster then an electronic clock, because people anticipate someone crossing a line. If anything anyone timed manually should get time added on to their times.
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lol....i get why to do electronic timing....but the whole adds .8 seconds thing isn't very clear....at all really.....doesn't matter really though i guess.
 
Crazy4Texas said:
I think D'Brick is perfect, he sounds like a great guy...is a real down to earth guy.

...We are weaker at the QB spot than at the RB spot.
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Yeah, he is a nice guy. Good argument for taking him number 1. My dad's a nice guy but he's 65....

Also, since we need so much help at QB, why do we not take the unquestionable number 1 QB on the board? Why Vince?

:rolleyes:
 
O.G. said:
They ran outdoors on AstroTurf, which was a fast surface. All 40-yard dash times were clocked electronically, which historically adds about 8/10 of a second to the actual time. For instance, if someone ran the 40 in 4.50 seconds, it really means he ran it in about 4.42 seconds.
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Crazy4Texas said:
The news reorter who wrote that article for NFL.com is out of his mind. Electric timing is the standard for acurate timing across the world. If Bush ran a 4.33 then that is his time, not 4.23 or 4.43. I guess the guys in the olympics run a tenth of a second faster than what they time in at. What a dumb comment, very biased towards Reggie type of comment.
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JAXwithanX said:
lol....i get why to do electronic timing....but the whole adds .8 seconds thing isn't very clear....at all really.....doesn't matter really though i guess.
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Let me take a shot at this. You are right, electronic timing is the most accurate. However, if you are comparing it against hand held timing it might measure longer because the human operator doesn't start his stop watch immediately on the gun - that could explain a 0.8 second lag. In other words, a group of timers could have timed the same run as the electronic timing and come up with a shorter time. They can see the finish line coming and be ready to "stop", but they can't anticipate the start. It is the hand-held timing that is inaccurate and the electronic that reads "slower".

Just one more reason they should all run at the combine.
 
LikeABoss said:
With the talent we are adding to the offense, I bet chu AJ will be soo happy he won't be seeing those double and triple teams no more:cool:
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lets hope....that way maybe he will actually want to stay with us when FA rolls around for him....cause as of right now....yes he seems like the nicest guy in the world....but he would be out of here so damn fast.
 
JAXwithanX said:
i not only live in austin i go to UT...and realize Bush should and will be our number 1....so lets try to calm down on the generalizations....i could just as easily generalize the man-lovers for Bush....
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I meant legitimate experts, not just us fans. Also, I like Vince but I just don't think he's the best QB in the draft. No hatred - just my opinion.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
They traded Portis, who they were not paying #1 money, for the top CB in the game. Very different situation and a very different ending than Bush supporters would like to hear.
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That was Mike Shanahan's decision not Gary Kubiak's.

Mike Shanahan=Executive Vice President of Football Operations/Head Coach

Gary Kubiak=Offensive Coordinator/Assistant Head Coach

We do people tend to forget that Shanahan makes all the personnel decisions for the Broncos:confused:
 
DRAMA said:
I meant legitimate experts, not just us fans. Also, I like Vince but I just don't think he's the best QB in the draft. No hatred - just my opinion.
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understandable....i think he has the most upside and truly do think he will reach it....but i can't blame a team in this kind of shape for not going on upside....and going for the sure thing.....which please god all mighty let bush be a sure thing.
 
JAXwithanX said:
lol....i get why to do electronic timing....but the whole adds .8 seconds thing isn't very clear....at all really.....doesn't matter really though i guess.
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same goes with stopping a stop watch with your thumb. You should stop one with your pointer finger reflex wise it is quicker.
 
Crazy4Texas said:
Bettis will be in the Hall of Fame, and dude, get real he has played over 10 years of course he has higher numbers, buddy you are really stretching but I am enjoying the debate
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That's right.. Ricky and Dayne both played 4 years while Bush only played three. Now you're catching up.
 
LikeABoss said:
That was Mike Shanahan's decision not Gary Kubiak's.

Mike Shanahan=Executive Vice President of Football Operations/Head Coach

Gary Kubiak=Offensive Coordinator/Assistant Head Coach

We do people tend to forget that Shanahan makes all the personnel decisions for the Broncos:confused:
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And how many 1500 yard rushers have they had since he left?
 
What?? OH this is so dumb! Another thing, how did Bush grow from 5'10.5 at the NFL combine to 5'11??? Kinda weird? I can understand gaining weight, or loosing weight, but growing and shrinking????? Sort of makes me question the whole post at NFL.com Plus in every other report they always post with the wind and against the wind times, was their no wind?? Or did he only run one 40????
 
JAXwithanX said:
lol....i get why to do electronic timing....but the whole adds .8 seconds thing isn't very clear....at all really.....doesn't matter really though i guess.
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The .08 seconds is added because they ran on AstroTurf. At Fresno State's Pro Day they ran on soggy grass and deducted .05 seconds. I guess it's all relative.

The electronic timing is the only accurate part of comparing 40 times, and will be until they have all the athletes run on the same surface under the same conditions.

Which ain't gonna happen.

All Bush's 40 time did for me was tell me what I already knew. It was his bench presses that told me what I wanted to hear.
 
dalemurphy said:
That's right.. Ricky and Dayne both played 4 years while Bush only played three. Now you're catching up.
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Even with another year he would have never caught Dayne or Williams numbers! Get real buddy!
 
Reggie was 10th all time in all purpose yards after his Junior year. Who knows what he would have been if he went back.
 
LikeABoss said:
That was Mike Shanahan's decision not Gary Kubiak's.

Mike Shanahan=Executive Vice President of Football Operations/Head Coach

Gary Kubiak=Offensive Coordinator/Assistant Head Coach

We do people tend to forget that Shanahan makes all the personnel decisions for the Broncos:confused:
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Thank you Captain Obvious. What does that have to do with my post which was in response to another post?
 
Crazy4Texas said:
Plus in every other report they always post with the wind and against the wind times, was their no wind?? Or did he only run one 40????
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There are no winds in a Domed stadium. Not sure if thats where he ran though, but it was on Astro-turf. So it could be. Disregard - they ran outdoors.
 
LCROD said:
And how many 1500 yard rushers have they had since he left?
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None, they had running backs that barely broke the 1,000 yard mark the past two seasons. I say they miss Clinton Portis more than the tend to lead on.

:thumbdown to Mike Shanahan starting Ron Dayne next season though:thumbdown
 
Crazy4Texas said:
What?? OH this is so dumb! Another thing, how did Bush grow from 5'10.5 at the NFL combine to 5'11??? Kinda weird? I can understand gaining weight, or loosing weight, but growing and shrinking????? Sort of makes me question the whole post at NFL.com Plus in every other report they always post with the wind and against the wind times, was their no wind?? Or did he only run one 40????
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Reggie was 5' 10 and 7/8" at the combine, or in layman terms 5'11".
 
bad said:
The .08 seconds is added because they ran on AstroTurf. At Fresno State's Pro Day they ran on soggy grass and deducted .05 seconds. I guess it's all relative.

The electronic timing is the only accurate part of comparing 40 times, and will be until they have all the athletes run on the same surface under the same conditions.

Which ain't gonna happen.

All Bush's 40 time did for me was tell me what I already knew. It was his bench presses that told me what I wanted to hear.
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yeah those bench presses are sick.....i mean....i'm not sure people are understanding how incredible that is for a 200 pounder....i doubt that has been done much at the combine....and definetely not someone with bush's skill.....

they make it seem like though that the electronic timing has something to do with the extra .8.....or when i read it thats what it sounded like....maybe the have cleared it up....but yeah i understand the adding the time for the astroturf.....although it would be nice to see everyone just do the damn thing at the combine....everyone has the same conditions....i mean ****....if its the one month more they want to prepare....move the thing back some....
 
Crazy4Texas said:
Even with another year he would have never caught Dayne or Williams numbers! Get real buddy!
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Also neither Ricky nor Dayne averaged anything near Reggies 8.7 ypc, are you catching on yet?
 
Crazy4Texas said:
Even with another year he would have never caught Dayne or Williams numbers! Get real buddy!
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The point is that you don't judge what a player is going to do in the NFL based upon his career yardage totals in college:

Terrell Davis
Ronnie Brown

Charles White
Ron Dayne


please tell me which duo of RBs you would've rather had.
 
Well as far as the Portis trade was concerned the Broncos got the best CB in the game and a 1st rd pick. That's alot of value. I mean Culpepper only went for a 2nd rounder so what does that say about a RB's value.
 
Last I checked, John Elway didn't win a Superbowl until Terrell Davis showed up. Come on now, Reggie Bush will be the face of this franchise for years to come. Mark my words. Reggie, Reggie, Reggie!
 
Some of these UT guys are ridiculous. What they all said "Didn't Matter" about VY pro day they are all using AGAINST Bush. Who the heck knows....:confused:
 
whoops....misread....bad post....yeah....i thought about putting a UT avatar up....but then promptly decided to wait until after the draft.
 
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