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Training camp 2013

Just wanted to remind everyone about the new CBA rules dictating the first few days of TC practices. No real on-field work is allowed on the first day of camp, and no contact is permitted during the second and third days. Players are finally allowed to wear pads on the fourth day, but the old two-a-days have all but disappeared. Players can be on the field for no more than four hours a day, and only one padded practice is permitted each day, not lasting longer than three hours. And separated from the other practice by no less than 3 hours. The second practice may only be a walk-through, which is the football equivalent of a dance class, with players standing around without pads or helmets and walking through plays.

So if you see any injury during the first few days, you've got to ask yourself why? And the usual answer will lie within "conditioning."
 
Just wanted to remind everyone about the new CBA rules dictating the first few days of TC practices. No real on-field work is allowed on the first day of camp, and no contact is permitted during the second and third days. Players are finally allowed to wear pads on the fourth day, but the old two-a-days have all but disappeared. Players can be on the field for no more than four hours a day, and only one padded practice is permitted each day, not lasting longer than three hours. And separated from the other practice by no less than 3 hours. The second practice may only be a walk-through, which is the football equivalent of a dance class, with players standing around without pads or helmets and walking through plays.

So if you see any injury during the first few days, you've got to ask yourself why? And the usual answer will lie within "conditioning."

I'm not sure I would agree with the ideal that most early injuries come from conditioning.

Though it ain't contact football, there's plenty of ways to get hurt even in the context of no full pads. Lots of big bodies in small spaces.
 
Just wanted to remind everyone about the new CBA rules dictating the first few days of TC practices. No real on-field work is allowed on the first day of camp, and no contact is permitted during the second and third days. Players are finally allowed to wear pads on the fourth day, but the old two-a-days have all but disappeared. Players can be on the field for no more than four hours a day, and only one padded practice is permitted each day, not lasting longer than three hours. And separated from the other practice by no less than 3 hours. The second practice may only be a walk-through, which is the football equivalent of a dance class, with players standing around without pads or helmets and walking through plays.

So if you see any injury during the first few days, you've got to ask yourself why? And the usual answer will lie within "conditioning."

Depends on the nature of the injury. As Kubiak said, the guys come out amp'ed up the first couple of days. So it wouldn't surprise me to see somebody roll and ankle or strain something going all out to make a circus catch or pick off a pass.

Then again, maybe that's conditioning too. I dunno.... you're the doc. :D
 
Depends on the nature of the injury. As Kubiak said, the guys come out amp'ed up the first couple of days. So it wouldn't surprise me to see somebody roll and ankle or strain something going all out to make a circus catch or pick off a pass.

Then again, maybe that's conditioning too. I dunno.... you're the doc. :D

If you look back at Montgomery's Draft write ups, you'll repeatedly find comments of his notable "stiffness" in movement and very poor ability to maintain "balance".........specifically after his 30 pound weight gain before his junior year.

Having poor balance is very much related to poor conditioning and/or to a frame carrying too much weight. Both of these factors have been identified as strong independent risk factors for noncontact ankle injuries.

Furthermore, there is an often cited interesting study in HS football players, that showed an extremely strong correlation between the player's risk of recurrent ankle sprain and BMI (Body Mass Index-essentially weight to frame measure). An overweight player who had a previous ankle sprain was ~20 times more likely to sustain a noncontact ankle sprain than was a normal-weight player with no previous ankle sprain. Now, even more so, Montgomery needs to take his weight and his level of conditioning very seriously.
 
-At various points during the morning practice, receivers Lestar Jean, Keshawn Martin and Alec Lemon made tough catches.

-Wide receiver Andre Johnson was impressed by about some of the younger receivers reeling in tough catches in traffic. “We had a bunch of guys out making plays on the ball. That’s what it’s all about: when you get opportunities you go out and make plays.”

-Rice head coach David Bailiff watched the morning practice.

-In the afternoon practice, head coach Gary Kubiak held a handful of veterans out of certain portions of team drills. Combined with some players being on the Physically Unable to Perform list, that resulted in combos like Danieal Manning and Shiloh Keo at safety. Or Kareem Jackson and Brandon Harris at cornerback. Or Cameron Collins and Tim Dobbins at inside linebacker.

-At the age of 31, with eight years of NFL experience, defensive end Antonio Smith is one of the elder statesmen on the club. When he was asked about 34-year old Ed Reed, Smith laughed and tossed out a Star Wars reference.
"If I'm like the old teacher...then Ed Reed is like Yoda.”

-Punter Shane Lechler scraped the ceiling a time or two when punting inside in the afternoon at the Methodist Training Center.

-Lechler and licker Randy Bullock were both interviewed following the afternoon practice by a television station from Bryan-College Station. They both played for Texas A&M.

-Every morning during camp on Texans Radio, Rick Smith will join Marc Vandermeer to break down a position group. He spoke about the running backs today.
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Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley
The #Texans LB group young/little depth. By day 2 of camp, LB coach Reggie Herring is losing his voice. Perhaps related?

PDS ‏@PatDStat
Duane Brown is so much faster than last year. On a play he was pulling, his acceleration was impressive for the 300 lbs. tackle. #Texans

J Joseph had been covering Hopkins majority of situations. Breaking the rookie in and making him work. #Texans
Tough day for the rookie vs. JJo. @PatDStat How does Hopkins look in his routes and being covered by JJO?

Collins has trouble with the short routes out of the backfield but he can run with TEs and RBs in downfield routes. Sleeper. #Texans

One player to watch is Cameron Collins. The ILB has increased practice time with Sharpton out. He has good coverage skills.

Watt is a head worker out there. He sets the tone for the defense, and him and Earl Mitchell are always talking to each other. #Texans

I would talk about J.J. Watt but hearing that the offensive line can't handle him would be nothing new. #Texans

Jeff Maehl has quietly had a good camp. 3rd year in and has been here for a reason. He can double as a teams coverage player and WR. #Texans

Rookie WR Andy Cruse keeps making solid strides. He is a big WR that the DBs have a hard time stopping. #Texans

NT David Hunter was giving the offense fits today. He was doing what he wanted to today in team sessions. Constant disruption. #Texans

Stephen McGee and Case Keenum have also looked sharp. They will be a camp battle to watch. #Texans

T.J. Yates' delivery looks much better than I remember. Good velocity and getting it to his WRs in stride. #Texans

Schaub has looked good with Daniels and Johnson. He is still working to get in tune with Hopkins. #Texans

Probably been most impressed with the quarterback play these two days. #Texans

Two days for Keshawn Martin where he has stood out in the passing game. Looks much more comfortable with his role. #Texans

Rookie TE Ryan Griffin showed today why he could be a good pick. He uses his 6-6 frame well against defenders to make catches.

Kareem Jackson vs. Andre Johnson has become one of the fun matchups to watch on the field. #Texans
@PatDStat Does Kareem hold his own? Yes.

Owen Daniels made some outstanding catches today. Matt Schaub and him were making some nice plays. #Texans

Practice in the books. Team looked sharp especially the offense through the air. #Texans
Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli
Lots of leadership talk today. Foster mentioned #Texans are turning into a team where coaches don't have to lead much, players handle it.

"He’s a leader by example, just kind of like Cush. Guys just naturally follow him. Whatever he says, people listen." B Reed on Watt #Texans

"Brian Cushing’s back, and he’s going to bring the attitude back," Brooks Reed. #Texans

Greg Jones said practices are different here than Jacksonville. Said it's a good difference. #Texans

Brooks Reed talked about JJ Watt taking over Cushing's pregame speech role last year. Thinks Watt practiced speeches in the mirror #Texans

Foster said because of the calf injury he's had time to reinvent himself as an athlete. He's better in a lot of ways #Texans

Arian Foster spoke today. Couldn't give specifics on calf other than it's better not to rush an injury like that.
James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN
“There’s just some light soreness in there. I can pretty much do everything, so we’re just going to take it day by day.” - Arian Foster

Foster added that every year you have to do something different to get better as an athlete and can't be complacent. #texans #texanstalk

Foster put in an unreal offseason of training. Said he was only disappointed "for an hour" after injury. Moved forward immediately
 
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Just a little more to add. :)

@JaysonBraddock

Quick notes on Texans camp: Earl Mitchell playing strong. Underarm rips Myers off the ground for win. Then tries finesse spin & shutdown.

Chris Jones still looks as agile as he did on tape, but Ben Jones handled it in stride

Smith on Smith crime. Antonio destroyed Wade several times. Brooks & Jones would be a deadly interior with Myers. I wouldn't wait.

Willie Jefferson is intriguing. Athletically gifted, but raw. Too early to tell if he'll develop gift into NFL talent.

Jefferson blew by Duane Brown. Brown didn't take too kindly to it & next rep showed why Jefferson has to add weight. Complete lockdown.

Duane actually came over to Jefferson after series and showed him love for beating him.

Brennan Williams had some catching up to do. Was beat all day in 1 on 1s. Jefferson blew by with ease. Brennan missed time in OTAs.
 
Just a little more to add. :)

@JaysonBraddock
Will do, looks like he has a good insight...

Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock
Also intrigued to see DeVier Posey when healthy. Definitely has the drive to succeed. Keshawn Martin has taken strides in year 2.

I keep being impressed by Kareem Jackson.

Cameron Collins was fun to watch in coverage in Owen Daniels. In his hip pocket all day.

Ryan Harris looked like the old Broncos' Harris. If he can stay healthy thru camp, it'd be a fun watch to see if he can get old form back.
Ryan Harris has some solid years in Denver. Not sure he can take that many snaps per game, but he was a good acquisition that flies under the radar.
 
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Nothing from Ben Tate?
Tate looks good, healthy. Likely to have a good year, but then I expect he will sign away from Houston to get his own deserved shot at being a #1.


Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli
Foster did a little promotional work for Ben Tate, entering a contract year. He said Tate is starter caliber. #Texans

James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN
"He's very patient and his opportunity is going to come whether it's here or somewhere else." - Foster on #texans RB Ben Tate
 
Thanks, Playoffs. Keep 'em coming.

Other than right tackle, the competition that I'm going to be the most interested in is between Yates and Keenum. It may not be consequential this year, but I believe the outcome will be a pivotal point for the future of the offense. If anyone attending camp is taking requests for things to watch, that one's mine.
 
Will do, looks like he has a good insight...

Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock

Ryan Harris has some solid years in Denver. Not sure he can take that many snaps per game, but he was a good acquisition that flies under the radar.

Wasn't that long ago when Denver was thought to have the best pair of young OTs with Harris and Clady .
 
I swear I don't remember Cameron Collins before this. Anyone know how we acquired him? Was he a UDFA? Trying to remember.
 
I swear I don't remember Cameron Collins before this. Anyone know how we acquired him? Was he a UDFA? Trying to remember.
October 11, 2012

To fill their open spot on the practice squad, the Houston Texans signed inside linebacker Cameron Collins. Collins is a 6-2 241 lbs. linebacker who originally played safety at Oregon State, before switching to linebacker before the 2010 season. The inside linebacker originally signed as an undrafted free agent with the Miami Dolphins prior to the 2012 season, he was released August 31st of this season.
http://www.stateofthetexans.com/tag/cameron-collins/
 
T.J. Yates' delivery looks much better than I remember. Good velocity and getting it to his WRs in stride. #Texans

TJ! TJ! TJ!

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See that *****? You hit them in stride!

Im starting it now: QB controversy!!!!!
 
Thanks, Playoffs. Keep 'em coming.

Other than right tackle, the competition that I'm going to be the most interested in is between Yates and Keenum. It may not be consequential this year, but I believe the outcome will be a pivotal point for the future of the offense. If anyone attending camp is taking requests for things to watch, that one's mine.

If there's any true QB competition this year, it's between Keenum & McGee.

When was the last time Schaub played 16 games in back to back seasons? If Kubiak comes back with that Arian heavy, Tj game manager game plan, then I'll be upset that we haven't done more to find a true back up QB/QB of the future.
 
If there's any true QB competition this year, it's between Keenum & McGee.

When was the last time Schaub played 16 games in back to back seasons? If Kubiak comes back with that Arian heavy, Tj game manager game plan, then I'll be upset that we haven't done more to find a true back up QB/QB of the future.

So you're saying that TJ shouldn't even be an option as the QB of the future? Ouch.

I wasn't impressed with him at all last season, but his competitive advantage for that role is still valid. He'd have to royally screw up in preseason to put himself on even ground.
 
Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley
Yes. Ed Reed coaching everyone. RT @DoughertyDrew: And not just with rookies. Or defensive teammates.
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Owen, Keshawn and a second year ILB turning heads - #Texans Training Camp: Day Two : State of the #Texans http://www.stateofthetexans.com/texans-training-camp-day-two/ … #NFL

I might be in the minority here, but Andre Johnson looks like he spent some serious time in the weight room. He looks much bigger. #Texans

Nwachukwu showed his straight line speed today when he ran by a cornerback like he was standing still. #Texans

Well a day short, but the #Texans are in pads for the first day tomorrow. #Texans
James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN
"he looks as good as I've ever seen him." - Gary Kubiak on #Texans CB Johnathan Joseph. #Texanstalk.

RT update: Newton is doing 1/2 of the workouts so far. Brennan Williams has yet to do anything with the team other than individuals. #Texans
 
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Head Coach Gary Kubiak

(on if there are any updates on the injuries from yesterday’s practice) “No, we’re good. (OLB) Sam Montgomery did not practice this morning. He’s got a sore ankle. We thought he could go and he ended up not going. Other than that, we’re back at it. Had a good cool morning to work. The rain helped out a little bit, so good day.”

(on if there was good energy at practice on the second day) “Yeah, usually it takes about three days to work into it and they get pretty worn out and sore, and they start to revive a little bit, but I thought it was good. It was very competitive. We’ve added a few different periods to our practice form a competitive standpoint and I like our young guys and the way they’re competing I thought it was a good day.”

(on his thoughts on the linebacker corps this season and if he thinks they can stay together) “First off, it’s going to be young. The depth is going to be very young. As a coach, at this point, two days into camp, obviously it’s going to play itself out, but that’s the way we’re built right now. I feel good about our group. I think (Defensive Coordinator) Wade (Phillips) and (LBs coach) Reggie (Herring) have done tremendous work with young players in their coaching career and they’ve got a good group of young guys when you look at how far (LB) Willie (Jefferson) has come. I’m sitting here watching (LB) Trevardo Williams and we get (LB) Sam (Montgomery) going. It’s a group that, like I said, it’s going to have a lot of youth to it, but it’s going to have a lot of ability too.”

(on if there is an update on TE Garrett Graham) “Garrett, he’s got the flu or some type of virus and has been really sick. Hoping that he might be back around the building today. The plan was to have him on the field tomorrow. Obviously, if he’s not getting better, which he is getting somewhat better, we’ll keep him away from the guys. So we’ll see. I’m hoping he’s here tomorrow. He’s fine. He’s just battling a bug.”

(on if he has an idea of how many players he wants on the roster at certain positions on offense and what goes into deciding that) “You never know how you’re going to be built. Obviously, if you’ve got good players in place, you’re not going to say, ‘Well, I’m going to let him go because I’m going to keep this many tight ends.’ You’re going to keep the guys that earned the right to be here. We may be built different at back. We could be built different at tight end. I don’t know. We’ll have to wait and see. We’ve got some young offensive linemen. I think you always have a template that you kind of worked off of, but yet, we’re not going to run anybody out here who show us that they can win. So we’ll see.”

(on the New England Patriots running more offensive snaps than any team last year and if he thinks this year’s team will run a faster pace like that) “I thought we worked at a lot of pace last year. We did a lot of sugar-huddle offensively. As a team, it’s something that we always have the ability to do. On any given way, I think the best way to play that particular team we’re playing, we’ll have to make a decision there, but we’re going to always have pace built in whether we’re trying to use it to begin with or in a situation where we’ve got to use it to get back into a game. It’s always going to be part of what we do.”

(on if it’s a problem having young players at several positions on offense) “No, they’re going to be taught just like anybody else that would be in here. We’re not going to change what we do. We’re going to catch them up. I think it’s your job as a coach, once you get to the point where it’s time to play, you’ve got to do what your guys do best. If we’ve got some young players making a lot of plays and all they can handle is X amount, then that’s what we need to go do. We’ve got to figure that out, but right now, it’s time to work and throw it all at them and see how far we can go.”

(on how the schedule works out with putting on pads) “Let’s see, I think tomorrow we can put our shells on. I think the progression is that way. I think we’ll put our full gear on the next day, which will be what, Monday? We can slowly work ourselves into it, but we’re pretty physical in everything we do. That time’s coming.”

(on if anything has stood out through two days so far) “No, I like the way we’re working. I like the competition on the field. We’ve got some issues at linebacker and tackle now from a numbers standpoint. (T) Nick Mondekdid not practice today. I failed to mention him. So we’re dealing with that, but that’s part of training camp. I like our start and now we’ll start to get a little more physical and put the pads on.”

(on how much he reserves judgment until pads are put on) “I reserve judgment until we get to about the third week of the preseason. We’ve got a long way to go and you never know what’s going to happen. Right now, it’s just about teaching, grinding, coaching everybody. Everybody’s involved in that process. Just stay with the process, keep working and we’ve got to be ready to win a game against San Diego on opening day, so we’ll stay with the process.”

(on T Ryan Harris) “Yeah, well, he’s a very disciplined person. I would just say this, he looks really good. We’re going to play our best two tackles. We know who our left tackle is and (T) Ryan (Harris), he’s in the mix, he’s working on both sides every day. He’s probably as healthy as he’s been in his career. He really likes what we do. I think he’s starting to really flourish in what we do. I like how far he’s come. We’ll see.”

(on if T Ryan Harris floats to both sides equally) “Yeah, he has to right now because the two young kids are being pieced along, (T Derek) Newton and (T Brennan) Williams and (T Nick) Mondek is out. So right now, he’s having to do a lot, but that’s a good thing because your third tackle, your tackles have to be able to swing and do different stuff, and he showed he can do that last year.”

(on the youth and depth at linebacker) “Yeah, we’re very young and we got even younger when (LB Darryl) Sharpton was not ready to go when he reported to camp. Those are problems that you work through right now, but through problems, you can get better too. You can have guys step up and become really good players, but it’s obviously something we have our eye on, me and (General Manager) Rick (Smith). We need Darryl back on the field as quickly as we can get him there.”

(on if there is any news this afternoon) “(T Nick) Mondek is still not a part of what we’re doing. (TE) Garrett (Graham) is back in the building and he’s feeling better. We’re hoping for tomorrow, but we’ll wait and see where he’s at.”

(on what exactly TE Garrett Graham has been going through) “I just know he had some type of bug. I really don’t (know). I just know he was really sick. He lost some weight and we’re going to have to work him back to where he was.”

(on the right tackle position) “I think I said this before, the people are on our roster to handle our situation. The problem is he missed a lot of time. (T Derek) Newton missed the whole offseason. (T) Brennan (Williams) missed the whole offseason. Now, Newton is working about half the reps right now. He looks good. We’ve got a plan to get him back to full speed. Brennan has yet to do anything with the team other than individual. So as we practice, we’re really down a good player-and-a-half right there. It’s putting a lot of stress on (T David) Quessenberry, which that might be a good thing in the long haul. We’ll see how far he can come. But we’re trying to get those two guys to where they’re totally healthy and competing, and that’s not happening right now. There’s nothing they can do. We’ve got to get them there the right way.”

(on how he looks at the inside linebacker spot next to ILB Brian Cushing) “I look at it as being very, very young right now. (ILB Cameron) Collins is working as a starter in there and hasn’t played much football, but that’s a part of getting through camp too. Every day is like a puzzle; how do we work through today? How do we get certain guys on the team to this point and the process, so you’re always trying to put that puzzle together each and every day. But what it does is it creates a lot of reps for guys that never thought they were going to get them and who knows? We may find some gems along the way. That’s why we do what we do.”

(on his expectations for ILB Tim Dobbins) “It’s very important. Tim has really been on this team because he’s been a really good special teams player and yet he’s been a starter last year, and he’s a starter right now in how he operates. (It’s an) opportunity for Tim and he’s come in in good shape. He’s taking care of business. He looks good. He’s had a good two days.”

(on the growth of CB tandem Kareem Jackson and Johnathan Joseph) “It was probably late February, one day, I went down to the weight room and those two were on the treadmill. We hadn’t been through for a month. It’s impressive. Johnathan has been a tremendous presence for Kareem. Kareem has grown up a lot as a football player and a man, and it shows on the football field. Those two guys are always working together and now they’re sitting back talking with another guy in (FS) Ed (Reed). You only get better when you’ve got that experience on your football team.”

(on CB Johnathan Joseph saying he’s the healthiest he’s been in a few years and if he sees that in him) “Well, I’ve only been with him for a certain amount of time, but what I do see is we’re at the point where we can put him on a program like we do with (WR) Andre (Johnson). We kind of let him and Andre go at it at each for three days and give them a day break. We’re trying to work them the right way and I think he’s responded to it. Yeah, he looks as good as I’ve ever seen him.”

(on using RB Arian Foster in the passing game and if that has been inconsistent) “Yeah, it kind of all depends who we’re playing. I know there are certain teams that we play that some of Arian’s touches have to come through the air for that particular week, so we try to do that. He touches it a lot. I think that’s when he’s at his best when he does touch it a lot. Hopefully, (RB) Ben (Tate) stays healthy and there’s that combination like there was a couple of years ago, but we need to get Arian back out here and ready to go. He’s working hard. Hopefully, he’ll be back in a couple of days.”

(on OLB Whitney Mercilus’ place in the defense and assuming the role where they drafted him for) “He played pretty well last year. I think he had a six-seven sack season for a young player. Obviously, you draft guys that high knowing that there’s some point where it’s there, if it’s not very quickly. Here we go, it’s his second year, and it’s time for him to step up. With what we have at linebacker, with (OLB) Connor (Barwin) leaving and some of the things going on with our team, it’s time for him to step up like a six-seven-year guy and not a second-year guys. We believe in him. That’s why we do the things we do, but he’s responded and he’s been as good as he possibly can be throughout the offseason.”

(on the team’s health situation today) “Like I said, the only thing I can think of, without you all asking me, is (T Nick) Mondek still did not do anything today. He’s day-to-day. Nothing else has changed with anybody as of right now. I gave (T) Duane (Brown) the afternoon off. He did not do anything.”

(on if OLB Brooks Reed is back practicing) “Yeah, he’s back. He’s a full participant.”

(on if everybody is here) “Everybody’s here.”

(on if he’s generally happy with how training camp has been going so far) “Yeah, I mean it’s two days. We start to put our pads on tomorrow. So that’s when the game changes for everybody, So we’ve got to start to work toward that, but I feel good. We’ve got a couple of situations we’re having to work through each and every day from a health standpoint, but that’s part of camp.”

(on OLB Sam Montgomery’s status) “Sam was out this morning and he’s out this afternoon. He’s got a sore ankle and he’s being evaluated as we speak.”
 
Not intended to get to OT but noticed on the team site that this year it looks like Drew D. is writing "Empty Notebook" instead of having a rookie pen a "Rookies Diary". Anyone else notice that or is it too early to choose a rookie for the "Dairy"?
 
Head Coach Gary Kubiak

(on if there are any updates on the injuries from yesterday’s practice) “No, we’re good. (OLB) Sam Montgomery did not practice this morning. He’s got a sore ankle. We thought he could go and he ended up not going. Other than that, we’re back at it. Had a good cool morning to work. The rain helped out a little bit, so good day.”

(on OLB Sam Montgomery’s status) “Sam was out this morning and he’s out this afternoon. He’s got a sore ankle and he’s being evaluated as we speak.”

The original reporting that Montgomery suffered an ankle injury.......was taped up............and came right back, was somewhat disingenuous. The real story was that he suffered the injury and was taped, bit never returned to the rest of morning practice...........he returned during afternoon practice...........a walk-through.



From the training camp thread

I don't think there was a real "out of shape" issue? I mean if it could be corrected in one afternoon, how bad could it have been?

Tape does wonders..........temporarily.........
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Careful... you might pull a muscle patting yourself on the back so vigorously.


I was talking about reporting to camp "out of shape" You're talking about an ankle sprained at camp. Or are you saying they taped his gut up?

You know, I didn't realize why I woke up this morning sore.........now that explains it.:)

Sorry, I misread the context of your statement though. But I will say that a player can be "out of shape" without looking out of shape, since you can't "see" conditioning.
 
Careful... you might pull a muscle patting yourself on the back so vigorously.
That would be me patting Dr. CND on the back for all of his excellent contributions. Thanks, Doc. As always, MSR.

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Texans training camp injury updates for 7/27/13
-(OLB) Brooks Reed returned to practice Saturday after suffering from a sore foot Friday afternoon. "He's a full participant," head coach Gary Kubiak said Saturday afternoon.

-(TE) Garrett Graham, who had been hospitalized with a virus, was able to return to Reliant Stadium Saturday."Garrett is back in the building and he’s feeling better," said Kubiak. "We’re hoping for tomorrow, but we’ll wait and see where he’s at.

-(OLB) Sam Montgomery did not practice.

“Sam was out this morning and he’s out this afternoon," Kubiak said after the conclusion of the Texans' second day of training camp. "He’s got a sore ankle and he’s being evaluated as we speak.”

Earlier in the week, Montgomery was placed on the Active/Non-Football Injury list (NFI). Thursday afternoon, he was pulled off it. Friday morning he practiced. He explained that “it was a wakeup call” and that he needed to improve upon his nutrition and eating habits.

-(RB) Arian Foster, listed on the Active/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) list, was on the field taking passes from the Jugs Machine both Friday and Saturday.

“It’s just got some light soreness in there, it’s nothing,” Foster said Saturday. “I can do pretty much everything, so I’m just going to take it day-by-day.”

-(ILB) Darryl Sharpton, listed on the Active/Non-Football Injury list, did not practice Saturday due to a sore groin.
-(T) Nick Mondek did not practice Saturday. He has been suffering from a sore foot since Friday afternoon, according to Kubiak.
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Pads today.
 
Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley
Kubiak on players out: Wade Smith/Garrett Graham w/illness. Sam Montgomery in boot w/ ankle. Greg Jones day off as vet rest.

Best quote of day? From @JJWatt: Those talk his regression likely "sitting behind a desk." He's doing work, doesn't care about predictions.

Seth Payne ‏@PayneNFL
Hum drum practice 'till Smith and Myers got into scuffle during 9 on 7. Swearinger got animated. Like bloodthirsty hyena animated.

Quessenberry looks more technically sound than he did a couple months ago. Been working at it.

Recently signed NT Daniel Muir had some great bull rushes in one-on-one's. Gotta dig more info up on him.

Want to see more power out of Mercilus. Looks great running games with Antonio Smith bit less effective 1-on-1. #Texans

Brandon Brooks had a couple respectable reps vs. JJ Watt in one-on-one pass rush. Can definitely anchor vs bull rush.

DJ Swearinger looking comfortable playing dime linebacker. Works through traffic very well versus run.
Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli
ESPN trucks are here, following @josinaanderson who got here yesterday. SportsCenter will be at camp tomorrow morning. #Texans

Couldn't tell you what Swearinger was screaming, just that he was. He's going to be fun #Texans

Easily best moment: Myers got after Antonio Smith for a play and during the ensuing scuffle, Swearinger jumped up & down screaming #Texans

First day in pads. "looked like it, didn't it?" Kubiak said. #Texans

Whitney Mercilus went up against Duane Brown in those drills. Not a fair fight right now but it'll make Mercilus improve fast. #Texans

Willie Jefferson looked good in one on one pass rush drills. Could be a good p squad guy. #Texans

Hopkins, Keshawn Martin, Devier Posey and Tyler Clutts also out there doing extra work after practice. #Texans

Greg Jones had the day off as per Kubiak's plan, coach says. Garrett Graham still sick. #Texans

Wade Smith came in this morning ill and went home. Sam Montgomery had his right foot in a boot for that ankle. #Texans
Dave Zangaro ‏@DZangaro
Watt on pads "This is when you find out who’s got it. Who is a football player & who is a guy who looks like he could be a football player."

J.J. Watt on folks saying his numbers will drop: "They’re probably sitting behind a desk somewhere. I’m out here working... "I’m in the weight room putting in the work. Anybody sitting behind a desk or talking to a camera can say whatever they like."

"Yeah, he’s a fiery little guy. He’s a good little player back there." - J.J. Watt on D.J. Swearinger #TexansTalk

I was impressed by Jared Crick during pass rush drills. I think he's going to play a role as a nice rotational player. #TexansTalk

"I like his presence. I like what he stands for so just want to keep him in one piece and get him ready to go." - Kubiak on Greg Jones

"It looked like it didn’t it? Obviously it got a little testy out there this morning. That’s a good thing." -- Kubiak on first day in pads

You're going to have fun watching Swearinger. Started yelling today after two teammates got into it. Just yelling loudly in the background.

Brooks did alright against J.J. Watt but the Defensive Player of the Year overpowered him ... like he does everybody else

It's always fun watching the pass rush drills. Brandon Brooks is really, really strong.

Earl Mitchell got a smile on his face when I asked him about Bill Kollar's not yelling at him anymore.
James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN
... I could literally not care any less. I'm just going to put in the work to be the best that I can possibly be." #Texans #Texanstalk

J.J. Watt -"People can say whatever they want about me. They can say I'm the best in the world, they can say I'm the worst in the world

J Joseph said that doing yoga did wonders for his hips. He went to classes with his wife, sometimes losing 6 pounds of sweat in a session

Duane Brown was really a tough test for Whitney Mercilus now that the pads are on. It'll only make him better.

Ed Reed was catching passes one handed off the jug machine.

Matt Schaub is outside throwing passes to Arian Foster after practice

Johnathan Joseph said that Kareem Jackson is actually the one who suggested he might have a sports hernia. He had the surgery after the Pro Bowl
Deepi Sidhu ‏@DeepSlant
After practice, JJ Watt says he is excited about what S DJ Swearinger brings to backfield #Texans
PDS ‏@PatDStat
I liked the idea of Cierre Wood as the 3rd RB but Dennis Johnson changed my mind some today. Will be one of the better competitions

Of course Daniels always has Andre Johnson working with him on the JUGS machine too. #Texans

Owen Daniels lets no time pass him without working. Always working, between sessions he spends time on the Jugs machine catching. #Texans

Said it yesterday but Nwachukwu's speed is impressive. Can run by people with ease. #Texans

On offense WRs Andy Cruse and Ez Nwachukwu have really made an impression for the UDFAs. #Texans

A.J. Bouye and Willie Jefferson have stood out on defense for the UDFAs. #Texans

When the UDFAs are pushing for roster spots it says something about the front office and the talent they find. #Texans

Fullback Zach Boren did what fullbacks are supposed to do. Finish blocks. He drove A defender all the way to the sidelines. #Texans

It will be interesting to see who will step up on the pass rush off the edge. #Texans

Trevardo Williams has some work to do. has to get adjusted to the physical part of the game. Was stopped w ease in his pass rush.

Really liked what Eddie Pleasant did today. Covered well and looked decent in run game support. #Texans

Ryan Harris looked good in pass pro. He kept a clean slate today vs. the pass rushers. #Texans

Whitney Mercilus has some work to do as a pass rusher. He was going against the best in Brown, but still need to see more. #Texans

Duane Brown has great footwork. He knows how to bait pass rushers and he frustrated Mercilus today in pass pro work. #Texans

NT Terrell McClain has some quicks for a Dlineman. Rushed well in one on one pass pro. #Texans

Cameron Collins is making some good plays at ILB. He is taking advantage of his increased time with Sharpton out. #Texans

Ben Jones had a tough time a left guard in the run game. Was filling in for the sick Wade Smith. #Texans

DeAndre Hopkins showed some life today. Finally back to making catches and is gaining some continuity with Schaub. #Texans

D.J. Swearinger is not afraid to play inside the box. He will mix it up and make plays. #Texans

ILB Mike Mohamed had an interception today on a tipped ball. Rookie NT Chris Jones creates the pressure for the bad throw. #Texans

Hard not to like what Kareem Jackson has done. Always around the football and his playing with a high level of confidence. #Texans

NT Earl Mitchell was making plays majority of the day. He is a good compliment to the DEs next to him. #Texans

Quarterbacks once again looking sharp. The entire group has thrown well. #Texans

RB Dennis Johnson really made an impression with his overall strength. He can deliver a blow in pass pro. #Texans

Brooks vs. Watt was a great match up. Once Brooks can anchor he can stop anything, held his own against Watt. #Texans

Once Brandon Brooks gets a hold of a pass rusher it's over. Has to work on his footwork to combat quicker Dlineman. #Texans

David Quessenberry is a future piece of the Oline. He showed some serious strength in one on one pass pro. #Texans

OLB Willie Jefferson has made big strides. Has all the tools to be a pass rusher but holding up in the run game was an issue. #Texans

J.J. Watt vs. Duane Brown is a great matchup to watch. Both have their moments of getting the best of each other. #Texans

Antonio Smith dominated today on inside drills. Stopped three plays in a row. #Texans

Rookie cornerback AJ Bouye had two interceptions today. He is separating himself from the younger corners. #Texans

Alan Bonner made the catch of the day with a one handed leap on a deep ball. #Texans
Adam Wexler ‏@awexler
"When you put the pads on, you expect a little fire, edge. It showed.That's when you know you have a good group,' JJ Watt on today's scuffle #Texans

Very real talk from J-Jo about he & Kareem to be top CB tandem. Kareem made leap last year & he's been a blanket on WRs this camp #Texans

Best line at practice: DL coach Bill Kollar at DLineman knocked on his butt in 1-on-1 drill, "What'd you have for breakfast today!?" #Texans

DeAndre Hopkins on the field after practice with Schaub working on routes etc.
 
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J.J. Watt vs. Duane Brown is a great matchup to watch. Both have their moments of getting the best of each other. #Texans

I would pay money to watch this. Seriously
 
David Quessenberry is a future piece of the Oline. He showed some serious strength in one on one pass pro. #Texans


That's a pretty strong statement ! I like what I'm hearing about Q , maybe he can take over the left guard pos from wade . Nice pick up Texans !
 
Johnathan Joseph said that Kareem Jackson is actually the one who suggested he might have a sports hernia. He had the surgery after the Pro Bowl
Maybe Kareem should apply for the team physician gig? Unbelievable.
 
No reports on Braman...

Your two speed rush guys that you expect to be on the roster in merci and Williams showing poorly so far.

Well it's early.
 
No reports on Braman...

Your two speed rush guys that you expect to be on the roster in merci and Williams showing poorly so far.

Well it's early.

Or it is over analysis. Get serious. There have been a few reports of one of the best LTs in the NFL stymying a 2nd year OLB so the OLB is doing poorly. Somebody has to win. People would be all chicken little if Merciless was beating Brown.
 
Or it is over analysis. Get serious. There have been a few reports of one of the best LTs in the NFL stymying a 2nd year OLB and he is doing poorly. Somebody has to win. People would be all chicken little if Merciless was beating Brown.

Add in the fact that Brown stymies most of the better pass rushers in the league.
 
Maybe Kareem should apply for the team physician gig? Unbelievable.

It's past time for the Texans to look for new team physicians. TheDr.'s ineptitude never ceases to amaze me. I've got a feeling if Brennan Williams situation had been handled properly, (Surgery before OTA's) he would've been ready for week1. Now it's likely he will spend the season on the IR. Or contribute very little at the least.

This is just another example of the Texans medical team screwing up.
 
It's past time for the Texans to look for new team physicians. TheDr.'s ineptitude never ceases to amaze me. I've got a feeling if Brennan Williams situation had been handled properly, (Surgery before OTA's) he would've been ready for week1. Now it's likely he will spend the season on the IR. Or contribute very little at the least.

This is just another example of the Texans medical team screwing up.

So they have had the same folks the entire time? Just curious if you can name the key personnel whose tenure is too long.
 
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Just an FYI from a Newsletter that is routinely distributed to Medical Center physicians.
Texas Medical Center — Houston, Texas — TMC NEWS
Vol. 24, No. 5 Previous Table of Contents Home Next March 15, 2002

Clanton Named Team Physician for New Houston Texans Football Team
by MEREDITH RAINE-MIDDLETON
The University of Texas
Health Science Center at Houston

Dr. Tom Clanton, professor and chairman of the department of orthopedics at The University of Texas Medical School at Houston, is one of the new team physicians for the Houston Texans National Football League team.

Dr. Clanton, who has been practicing sports medicine for 20 years, will serve as an orthopedic consultant and the team�s foot and ankle specialist.

"I�m excited to be working with the Texans," Dr. Clanton said. "They have a great organization from the top down."

Dr. Clanton is no stranger to the sports arena. As a student, he played football at Rice University, and since 1982, has been a team physician for the Rice Athletic Department. He acted as a consultant to the team physician for the former Houston Oilers, and numerous professional football players already are among his patients.

His experience and the confidence of Drs. Walter Lowe, the Texans� head team physician, and James Muntz, team internist and volunteer faculty member at the UT-Houston Medical School, is what earned Dr. Clanton the spot on the four-member team of physicians.

"Our job will be to make sure that the players, as patients, receive the best possible care we can provide," Dr. Clanton said. "It�s imperative that physicians caring for athletes understand both the injury and the sport in order to determine when the risk of returning to sports participation is acceptable. This is particularly critical in the professional athlete."

The Houston Texans begin their inaugural season this fall.

Dr. Lowe has always remained the Texans' head team physician (orthopedics) and Dr. Muntz the team internist. Dr. Clanton (orthopedics) as "assistant" team physician to Dr. Lowe has since left the team. Dr. Lowe usually has a rotation of "lesser" assistants (orthopedic) at any one time.

I found the above highlighted paragraph especially "interesting."
 
How long has Kap been around? I don't recall the name of the guy before him but I wasn't playing that close of attention prior to Kubiak.

I believe you are referring to Texans head athletic trainer Geoff Kaplan. He is not a physician. He's been with the Texans I think going on his 5th year.
 
That would be me patting Dr. CND on the back for all of his excellent contributions. Thanks, Doc. As always, MSR.

I don't think people realize how fortunate we are to have Doc's as a major contributor to these forums.

Hell , I get sick or hurt , I call Doc Jean .... Thanks Doc!
 
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