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Trade scenarios 2025 Texans

Not much draft capital to trade with next year. One pick in every round except the 6th.
Who would you (current Texans player) package with one of those picks for a need?
 
Based on history, Nick has significantly traded up and down in all rounds. I don't see a player worthy of a significant trade up round one nor the capital to do so. I think he would love to trade out of round one as he did in 2024 draft. As of now, based on others sentiment and what I see realistically happening, I am basing this on losing 2 out last 4 games and that is very optimistic 10 & 7.

LV Raiders get: 1.24 [740] + 4.125 [47]
Texans select : 2.34 [560] + 3.71 [235]

Raiders 1.1 QB 1.24 WR Isaiah Bonds 3.65 CB Monsoor Delaney 4.102 RT Ajani Cornelius 4.125 WR Kyren Lacy

Houston 2.34 LG/LT Wyatt Milum 2.57 S Xavier Watts 3.71 DT/NT Alfred Collins 3.89 LT/IOL Charles Grant
 
austins23 said:
Not much draft capital to trade with next year. One pick in every round except the 6th.
Who would you (current Texans player) package with one of those picks for a need?
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No current player will be traded for significance as dead money is issue; not saying player such as Howard might not be cut post June to open up cap space for a huge free agent.
 
There are 2 scenarios that I’d look into:

1. I currently see 5-6 OL drafted in the 1st. If one of those guys were to drop, I could see us trading back for a team that wanted to move up.

Examples: NE or NYG 2nd + 3rd (depending on value)

2. If by some chance the NYJ are looking to gain more assets and are willing to trade Wilson, I’d totally consider trading our 1st. It’s a long shot, and I’m not sure the Jets would do it. But I’d at least listen to what they’re asking for him.
 
TexansFan15 said:
There are 2 scenarios that I’d look into:

1. I currently see 5-6 OL drafted in the 1st. If one of those guys were to drop, I could see us trading back for a team that wanted to move up.

Examples: NE or NYG 2nd + 3rd (depending on value)

2. If by some chance the NYJ are looking to gain more assets and are willing to trade Wilson, I’d totally consider trading our 1st. It’s a long shot, and I’m not sure the Jets would do it. But I’d at least listen to what they’re asking for him.
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I am okay with trading out of round 1 but it needs to bring significant players in return; a potential starter and another at depth at minimum.

Raiders seem best option. I was hoping to draft BPA in 2025 but most agree LG has to be resolved.

My 2 cents: no one in draft other than Wyatt Milum offers starting material at LG. I was focused on Donovan Jackson until the end of 2023 season and I just lost interest. I think that feeling was correct as he decided to remain in school that year with low draft appeal. He has been steady for Ohio State but is still projected to be a late second or third rounder. In my mind, he comes with significant risk but would open up round one and probably round two for other players.
Speaking of risk, I still think if we're not going to draft Milam, Charles Grant with 98 at both pass blocking and run blocking and great athletics and feet could be selected round three; and possibly be better than what we have on the roster today. Knowing Caserio, I think he could pick up a free agent guard to take some snaps while Grant adjusts to NFL guard if he needs it and he may not. That type of bold if risky move is something I could see Nick doing. Forget about small school and deal with the players accomplishment at that school.
 
badboy said:
Based on history, Nick has significantly traded up and down in all rounds. I don't see a player worthy of a significant trade up round one nor the capital to do so. I think he would love to trade out of round one as he did in 2024 draft. As of now, based on others sentiment and what I see realistically happening, I am basing this on losing 2 out last 4 games and that is very optimistic 10 & 7.

LV Raiders get: 1.24 [740] + 4.125 [47]
Texans select : 2.34 [560] + 3.71 [235]

Raiders 1.1 QB 1.24 WR Isaiah Bonds 3.65 CB Monsoor Delaney 4.102 RT Ajani Cornelius 4.125 WR Kyren Lacy

Houston 2.34 LG/LT Wyatt Milum 2.57 S Xavier Watts 3.71 DT/NT Alfred Collins 3.89 LT/IOL Charles Grant
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Tech glitch...
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badboy said:
No current player will be traded for significance as dead money is issue; not saying player such as Howard might not be cut post June to open up cap space for a huge free agent.
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If possible the best of both worlds would be for Howard and a 2nd be traded to move into the bottom of the 1st/top of the 2nd and come out of thid draft with Warren/Milum. Not a chance of this happening though.
 
steelbtexan said:
If possible the best of both worlds would be for Howard and a 2nd be traded to move into the bottom of the 1st/top of the 2nd and come out of thid draft with Warren/Milum. Not a chance of this happening though.
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The problem with trading Howard before June 1st, we eat over 19 million dollars in dead cap money. No thank you!
 
austins23 said:
I’d hate give up a 2026 1st or 2nd rounder. This team still needs big impact players. Gonna need another edge rusher that year. Gotta pay Will soon.
Would love a Kittle type TE….
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If you wanted to go all in on next year and I wouldn't do this, but you could,

1-22 Milum
1- 25 Warren, by trading 2-54 and a 2026 1st
3-76 Daylan Everette CB Georgia
4. Matthew Golden WR Texas

Let Howard walk if you cant trade him and use that money to sign Trey Smith. I would also look at adding another speed WR like Bo Melton in FA.

What I would do is pick Milum, at 1-22 (as much as I like Warren/Loveland) and at 2-54 pick Mason Taylor TE LSU. Great receiving TE and a better blocker than either Stover or Schultz.
 
NFL teams were hoping to get a better grasp of what the 2025 salary cap limit will be after owner's return from the recent meeting. They did not. This is my effort to guesstimate what the amount will be.
The 2024 limit was $255.4 after a record increase of 30.6 from 2023 to 2024 due to readjustment from the covid years. My understanding is most of the increase in 2023 came from the new percentage of player participation known as "media kicker " that can be from 48% to 48.8%. It is not expected to be as high as 2024.
In a December 8th article, Ian Rapaport estimates a 10 to 20 million increase. Also from 2024 a $9 million amount was deferred to be split evenly over the next two years.
2025:
$255.4 [this year] + $6.5 roll over + $4.5 split + $10 (Ian's) = $276.4
My projection for 2025 to use is $275 million. Apprx $20 m increase .
 
Looks like we are locked in at #19 unless we beat Pittsburgh. I'm not overly impressed with those available after that in round 1 for most mocks. I know most here will also disagree with that opinion. The sweet part of the draft in my opinion is round two and round three as it was last draft. I can see Nick doing his trade down again.
 
badboy said:
Looks like we are locked in at #19 unless we beat Pittsburgh. I'm not overly impressed with those available after that in round 1 for most mocks. I know most here will also disagree with that opinion. The sweet part of the draft in my opinion is round two and round three as it was last draft. I can see Nick doing his trade down again.
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The draftsperts overall think there are about 15 true first-round players in the draft from what I have been picking up.
 
badboy said:
Looks like we are locked in at #19 unless we beat Pittsburgh. I'm not overly impressed with those available after that in round 1 for most mocks. I know most here will also disagree with that opinion. The sweet part of the draft in my opinion is round two and round three as it was last draft. I can see Nick doing his trade down again.
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Name a draft in the last 10 yrs when you didn't want to trade down?

If one of Nolen/HarmonWarren/Milum/Booker are there at 1-19 I'm picking them and not trading down. This isn't a deep draft so in the 2nd rd I would pick at 2-41 and depending on how the draft fell I might even trade back into the 2nd rd.

If say Warren is the pick at 1-19 and one of the guys I listed falls into the 2nd rd I wouldn't hesitate to move up towards the top of the 2nd if that meant drafting one of Booker/Milum.
 
steelbtexan said:
Name a draft in the last 10 yrs when you didn't want to trade down?

If one of Nolen/HarmonWarren/Milum/Booker are there at 1-19 I'm picking them and not trading down. This isn't a deep draft so in the 2nd rd I would pick at 2-41 and depending on how the draft fell I might even trade back into the 2nd rd.

If say Warren is the pick at 1-19 and one of the guys I listed falls into the 2nd rd I wouldn't hesitate to move up towards the top of the 2nd if that meant drafting one of Booker/Milum.
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I agree that I usually want to trade out of the first round if there are comparable players available later or another position. The 2024 Texans draft is a perfect example of my philosophy. Part of our disagreement comes in the comparison of players value. You always push for a tight end that might be comparable to TEs on other teams. I understand that but it's just not my way of thinking and evidently not current management either. They had an opportunity in 2024 to draft tight end Sinnot in round one or with the trade pic instead of Lassiter in round two.

Other than Milum and Booker, I agree that none of those will be there although Nolen is "sliding " on Tankathon.com. It would be hard not to select him at 19. Also I would take Milum at 19. I would be more open to Josh Conerly in round two plus another pick than Booker at 19. Not adamant about Booker but that would be my choice.
 
badboy said:
Membou is an athletic freak at right tackle who could transition to Right Guard. I don't see him as a starter in 2025 but behind Blake Fisher it would be a good move. It is possible but not probable that he could start at Right Guard if we move Mason.
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I see him as a LG.
 
badboy said:
I agree that I usually want to trade out of the first round if there are comparable players available later or another position. The 2024 Texans draft is a perfect example of my philosophy. Part of our disagreement comes in the comparison of players value. You always push for a tight end that might be comparable to TEs on other teams. I understand that but it's just not my way of thinking and evidently not current management either. They had an opportunity in 2024 to draft tight end Sinnot in round one or with the trade pic instead of Lassiter in round two.

Other than Milum and Booker, I agree that none of those will be there although Nolen is "sliding " on Tankathon.com. It would be hard not to select him at 19. Also I would take Milum at 19. I would be more open to Josh Conerly in round two plus another pick than Booker at 19. Not adamant about Booker but that would be my choice.
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They like Stover more than Sinnot.

Conerly isn't a guy that can play OG IMHO. I bet he ends up going late 1st. But it's too early to go by the mocks that are out there.
 
steelbtexan said:
They like Stover more than Sinnot.

Conerly isn't a guy that can play OG IMHO. I bet he ends up going late 1st. But it's too early to go by the mocks that are out there.
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I agree on Conerly being only a pure left tackle but I think he will be a very good one and would love to see him starting next to Milam at left guard.
 
Denico Autry 3 sacks but 35 in July.
$9 million post June 1st cut.

Shaq Mason only 32 next season but mediocre this season. It is possible he could bring you a 7th round in some future year trade which will give you the exact same cap space of 9.5 million as a post June 1st cut.

NFL teams are allowed only two post June 1st designations but as I understand can have post June 1st trades. The difference is a trade does not allow you to spread dead money over 2 years as a cut does.

Tytus Howard's deal will probably bring some type of trade but not post June unless a team's starter goes down which is possible. If he is one of the two posts June cuts, his capsaving is 14.2 million dollars. After June 1st trade.. 16 m. This is a lot of cap space to go get a very good offensive guard.
Another in draft.
Personally I would go for both Will Fries and Trey Smith of Kansas City. Not only would they be instant starters with better ceiling but also would each take a formidable player away from our division and Conference opponents.

Targets and protection for Stroud have to be prime directives.
 
Schultz trade brings $9 m and we could draft Fannin to replace him. He can't block either but he would be a better receiving tight end and much less expensive.
 
badboy said:
Denico Autry 3 sacks but 35 in July.
$9 million post June 1st cut.

Shaq Mason only 32 next season but mediocre this season. It is possible he could bring you a 7th round in some future year trade which will give you the exact same cap space of 9.5 million as a post June 1st cut.

NFL teams are allowed only two post June 1st designations but as I understand can have post June 1st trades. The difference is a trade does not allow you to spread dead money over 2 years as a cut does.

Tytus Howard's deal will probably bring some type of trade but not post June unless a team's starter goes down which is possible. If he is one of the two posts June cuts, his capsaving is 14.2 million dollars. After June 1st trade.. 16 m. This is a lot of cap space to go get a very good offensive guard.
Another in draft.
Personally I would go for both Will Fries and Trey Smith of Kansas City. Not only would they be instant starters with better ceiling but also would each take a formidable player away from our division and Conference opponents.

Targets and protection for Stroud have to be prime directives.
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Howard and Mason will probably be post June 1st cuts.
 
badboy said:
Schultz trade brings $9 m and we could draft Fannin to replace him. He can't block either but he would be a better receiving tight end and much less expensive.
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As long as they sign a couple of IOL, Blocking TE and re-sign Stingley then I will be happy. Then hopefully draft Fannin/Savion Williams type play makers in rds 1-2. The reason I like Fannin so much is I view him as a walking mismatch. He can be an OD type TE and a playmaker in the slot.
 
badboy said:
Just to clarify cap.. cuts bring minimal to no relief. Trades only way to get space.
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I think if you cut Faibain you can save 3 mil and that's not as a June1st cut.

I could be wrong.

Schultz, I want his butt off of the team. I cant stand guys that get paid and dont put in the effort. I really dont care about the cap savings. I would try to trade him for a late rd pick.
 
steelbtexan said:
I think if you cut Faibain you can save 3 mil and that's not as a June1st cut.

I could be wrong.

Schultz, I want his butt off of the team. I cant stand guys that get paid and dont put in the effort. I really dont care about the cap savings. I would try to trade him for a late rd pick.
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Cutting Fairbairn would create a large dead cap hit. His out is after 2025. We know he can kick, just have to understand what's going on in his head.

Schultz is what he is. I don't think he's ever been a good blocker, not with Dallas and not even before he got his recent extension. He's a stationary target with pretty reliable hands. Asking him to be what he's not is not his fault. I think us fans want more from the position, but maybe the coaching staff is ok with what he brings and the potential risks.
 
steelbtexan said:
I think if you cut Faibain you can save 3 mil and that's not as a June1st cut.

I could be wrong.

Schultz, I want his butt off of the team. I cant stand guys that get paid and dont put in the effort. I really dont care about the cap savings. I would try to trade him for a late rd pick.
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Nope.. trade is only way for savings for Fairbairn
 
KoolAid Sipper said:
Cutting Fairbairn would create a large dead cap hit. His out is after 2025. We know he can kick, just have to understand what's going on in his head.

Schultz is what he is. I don't think he's ever been a good blocker, not with Dallas and not even before he got his recent extension. He's a stationary target with pretty reliable hands. Asking him to be what he's not is not his fault. I think us fans want more from the position, but maybe the coaching staff is ok with what he brings and the potential risks.
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I expect what we saw in the 2023 season. Coaching staff gave him a huge raise based on what he did last season and he Tanked it this season.
 
KoolAid Sipper said:
Cutting Fairbairn would create a large dead cap hit. His out is after 2025. We know he can kick, just have to understand what's going on in his head.

Schultz is what he is. I don't think he's ever been a good blocker, not with Dallas and not even before he got his recent extension. He's a stationary target with pretty reliable hands. Asking him to be what he's not is not his fault. I think us fans want more from the position, but maybe the coaching staff is ok with what he brings and the potential risks.
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I'm thinking Fairbarin isn't a playoff pressure kicker. Paricularly when it's in the cold. Look at his game against the Ravens last yr in the playoffs.
 
JB said:
Justin Tucker was downright horrid this season but you wouldn't think of cutting him
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He made all of his kicks in January. If Kaimi can’t kick outdoors in the playoffs it doesn’t matter if he’s the best kicker in the league in September.

Kaimi has missed 3 FGs and 1 XP in two playoff games. Sure one was blocked but it’s not good enough.

And he missed one in the 2019 playoff game at KC.
 
JB said:
Justin Tucker was downright horrid this season but you wouldn't think of cutting him
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No you wouldn't because he kicks well in the playoffs and I would be willing to bet on a bounce back season from one of the GOAT's at his position. Look at Fairbarin's playoff track record and tell me if you've got confidence in him making a GW FG in a SB, or pull a Norwood?
 
Lucky said:
The Texans need homefield advantage, just like every other team.
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And when they dont have HOA their players have to be able to perform on the biggest of stages. I they're not up to the task then you have to find new players.
 
I wouldn’t even consider getting rid of Fairbairn unless the replacement is a known in advance and a clear upgrade. Highly unlikely. Yes he had a bad game. It happens. Yes….in limited data..,cold is an issue. Know how to resolve that? Stop losing to the Jets and Titans. Win a game where you pick off five passes, and get home field advantage.

I don’t know why it’s not mentioned more, but the punter is a much bigger issue. He is very inconsisten, and overall average if I’m being kind. The Aussie was much better. I idea why they didn’t resign him, but if you want an upgrade in the kicking game, start with the punter.
 
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