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Trade: Samkon Gado for Vernand Morency

I'm not sure which will make a better back but one thing for sure is that it won't matter who is carrying the ball if there is no hole to run through.
We didn't use Salaam at all and we have Winston inactive so the chances of fresh legs are slim. I'm willing to give anyone a chance but in Winston you have an aggressive stud who is still the more experienced and a better schooled tackle than Spencer. I guess he didn't bring the teacher an apple??!!
 
I think this guy played in a nationaly televised game last year. The name is
so unusual and I remember the fuss about him. He broke a real long run in that game ? The Pack was playing someone in their divison as I recall ?
Is this a statement that the Packers don't like Gado that much, or they really see something in Morency and are willing to part with value for a prospect ?
I thought Morency was very impressive in preseason, way superior to Lundy.
 
Wait, wait. Who gets Morency's number? Ordinarily I wouldn't care but #34 is kind of a big deal around here.
 
So they've turned the 2004 6th round pick into a 2005 undrafted free agent? Wow, that's awesome.

Kubiak needs to stop shopping and start coaching. The season has already started.
 
nunusguy said:
I think this guy played in a nationaly televised game last year. The name is
so unusual and I remember the fuss about him. He broke a real long run in that game ? The Pack was playing someone in their divison as I recall ?
Is this a statement that the Packers don't like Gado that much, or they really see something in Morency and are willing to part with value for a prospect ?
I thought Morency was very impressive in preseason, way superior to Lundy.
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I think it's saying the Packers are willing to straight trade a ufa for a 3rd round rb.
 
TheCD said:
I'm not sure if everyone remembers the talk of Gado's role in GB when Green was injured...but he played incredibly well. If he continues that pace here, then (dare I say it) he has the potential to start. My only concern is that he was supposedly sent to us because he's having trouble picking up a zone blocking scheme...which is what we use.
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I, as a Bear Fan, can second that!!! he is not only big, but fast also.
 
Frills said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MdarTD8Tp8

GB thought it was smart to hire the Offensive Coord. for the 49'ers as a head coach. Trying to make sense of that organization will drive a person crazy
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I'm glad someone found that video. I almost forgot about that run.

Lest anyone forget, that happened in a real game, where is counts, not a preseason game. And that's against the same run defense that held Shaun Alexander to almost nothing this past weekend.
 
This is a pretty good trade for you guys. You get another young running back who has proven what he can do in the league. He played well last year in the absence of Ahman Green and Davenport. He basically carried the whole rushing load for the Packers on a bad team. Once you get your run blocking scheme down he may challenge Wali Lundy for the starting spot if Lundy keeps running like he did on Sunday.
 
jdog said:
I think it's saying the Packers are willing to straight trade a ufa for a 3rd round rb.
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People on these boards seriously need to get over where these guys were drafted, because it's irrevelent. The only thing that matters is their talent and their potential. I'm personally very excited about this trade because I saw Gado play last year and he performed quite well, and I feel that he's proven more at this point.
 
" But Gado has struggled to adjust to the zone-blocking scheme being run by new Packers coach Mike McCarthy."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2586476
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ESPNs take is that the Gado has struggled in the ZB in GB. Guess the ESPN guy doesn't realize we also run the ZB, or he would find some irony in his own remark. Management probably has him working full time on Reggie Bush propaganda, so doesn't have time to learn about other backs in the league.
Nigerian guy gonna like this climate, and Morency (I think from Texas), gonna
have to invest in some long johns.
 
I'll guess I'll stop freaking out. I don't think it hurts us personnel wise. It just seems like a big change for the team so early. It seems like a bad message. This will be my first leap of faith for Coach Kubiak.

Go Texans!
 
Yossarian said:
People on these boards seriously need to get over where these guys were drafted, because it's irrevelent. The only thing that matters is their talent and their potential.
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thank you.

Gado has power and speed. Morency might be more polished but he's not got that second gear that you need in a one-cut system.
see the hole, BANG, there goes Gado... just watch that youtube link...

i think both teams did ok here. but the packers fans seem more upset to lose gado than we seem to lose morency, FWIW.
 
texan279 said:
Morency started one game, Gado started five games.
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Gado produced in those games, against decent teams. If he didnt fumble, he would look better.

Morency, not being his fault, only against that one team, but I remember them being in the running for Bush so they werent all that good.

Morency could be a good back, but Gado has a better resume.
 
TommyS said:
thank you.

Gado has power and speed. Morency might be more polished but he's not got that second gear that you need in a one-cut system.
see the hole, BANG, there goes Gado... just watch that youtube link...

i think both teams did ok here. but the packers fans seem more upset to lose gado than we seem to lose morency, FWIW.
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Morency does have that second gear. I don't get where some are getting Gado is faster than Morency.
 
Something I do not understand, why does the media feel they need to rip on the Texans with little stupid comments like adding the (ZONE BLOCKING COMMENT). O.K. (Gado struggles to pick up the Zone Blocking scheme) Now the media expects Texans fans to be stupid and freak out because they hear zone blocking scheme and Gado not picking it up well. HELLO!!!! "Sherman" Gado's coach last year, is our O-Line/assistant H.C. They used a zone blocking scheme in GB last year!!! Now everyone settle down. I am not a pro but I would probably guess that Gado will be fine with our style of zone blocking given his performance's last year in GB when sherman was maing the call's. Not everyone coaches the zone blocking the same.
 
TexansBull said:
Gado produced in those games, against decent teams. If he didnt fumble, he would look better.

Morency, not being his fault, only against that one team, but I remember them being in the running for Bush so they werent all that good.

Morency could be a good back, but Gado has a better resume.
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Only because Morency has never been given a real shot by this team under two regimes.
 
I personally am not sure what to think of this deal...Ive always liked Morency and liked what he did late last year and in this preseason..I feel he was never given a shot to be the # 1 here and it seems unless you were a "Kubiak guy" that you dont have much of a chance....I wouldnt say Gado is "proven" just yet....he has a 4.1 ypc and 6 touchdowns last year....nothing overwhelming....I really would have liked to see Morency play a couple games as the starter before dealing him off.....as a Texans fan I will cheer for Samkon but in a way home Morency blows up in GB and does awesome..ah well
 
It don't matter what runningbacks the Texans have. It all start up front, the O-Line. If the O-Line play like last week game Lundy, Dayne and Gado going to put up 70 yards combine.
 
texan279 said:
Morency does have that second gear. I don't get where some are getting Gado is faster than Morency.
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Morency ran 4.57 Gado ran 4.46, Gado has broken off huge runs in live NFL games, Morency has not. Gado is faster!
 
Morency will be a kickoff return and special teamer in GB. Green is healthy, so odds are that Morency will never touch the ball.
 
I know this assumption is way out there, but I'm guessing Sherman knows what he can and can't do.

I trust Sherman more than I trust a crap offensive coordinator who could only beat the last coaching staff by 3 points
 
Super Mario said:
Tack another one of our first day pick that are not on the team anymore...

I think we need to be looking for some safety help.
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Yes but if the player we traded him for sticks then I'm not going to be too upset about this.

Honestly I think that Ron Dayne is going to be carrying the majority of the load before too long. I think that signing was far more significant than most of you believed at the time.

Ron Dayne started the preseason as the #1 back in Denver and sometime around the 4th-6th week he'll be the #1 back here (for what that's worth) barring Gado busting out.

The coaches clearly decided that Morency wasn't going to be their guy. Lundy might be but for now he's just holding to spot down. Same with Taylor. Wali Lundy will get the chance to hang on to the job and I believe that both Gado and Dayne will be given an equal opportunity to take it away from him. I bet Dayne does it.
 
texan279 said:
And if you want to look at stats, take a look at Gado's preseason stats...


27 carries for 65 yards for a 2.4 YPC average.
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Preseason doesnt count......

But the only stat we really need to look at are the Ws. He got 2 out of 5.
thats half of the games GB won. Apparently he made a difference.

the teams were at home v.detroit, and away @ atlanta.

Just a better resume. He got a chance to show off and he did. Morency didnt get a chance, which shouldnt be held against him as not being worthy.
 
Yossarian said:
People on these boards seriously need to get over where these guys were drafted, because it's irrevelent. The only thing that matters is their talent and their potential. I'm personally very excited about this trade because I saw Gado play last year and he performed quite well, and I feel that he's proven more at this point.
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There is a lot invested in the draft system. I know Gado has performed well. All I'm saying is if I were Green Bay I would make the trade too...especially since he's like their third back.
 
Divebomb said:
Morency ran 4.57 Gado ran 4.46, Gado has broken off huge runs in live NFL games, Morency has not. Gado is faster!
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Old college 40 times mean nothing. Gado had 3 runs over 20 yards last season in 143 carries. Morency had 2 carries over 20 yards last season on 46 carries.
 
This is weird. I thought like many here that Morency was pretty good. Gado was good last year, but there are reasons for him not being drafted. Well, so was Priest Holmes, so people do get skipped. However, it still seems like we are getting the shaft.
 
giving a live presser, he doesnt know jack about morency. stats, weight, injuries, nothing. he said he watched film of morency but couldnt tell if we were running the zone blocking scheme - he said he couldnt tell the difference, that he didnt know.

but - he thinks morency's a good change of pace from the backs they have now (green, herron).

has good things to say about Gado, only that he wasnt as productive in the preseason as he wouldve liked. good character guy by the sounds of things.

apparently it has been talked about for a while and just happened today.
 
Gado did great last year for the Packers. I think we all liked Morency and wish him luck in the NFL he was a great back. There was something obviously that Kubiak didn't like about him however. And Sherman must have had a hand in this deal.


At least with Gado I know what he brings to the table. I hope no one is freaking out over this I think it was a good trade for both sides. Just sort of hoping that it doesn't bite us in the butt.


Welcome to the Texans Gado!
 
Hervoyel said:
Ron Dayne started the preseason as the #1 back in Denver and sometime around the 4th-6th week he'll be the #1 back here (for what that's worth) barring Gado busting out.
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Actually, Mike Bell was the starter by the first preseason game. And the fact that Dayne fell all the way to 4th on their depth chart should be much more telling than where they thought he would be at the beginning of the off-season.

And I seriously can't believe people are arguing using pre-season stats. If you would rather have the guy who does well in the preseason than the guy who does well in the regular season, then great. Maybe one day, we'll have the best preseason, worst regular season team ever. We'll celebrate our throne as preseason national champions.
 
Snapple said:
Actually, Mike Bell was the starter by the first preseason game. And the fact that Dayne fell all the way to 4th on their depth chart should be much more telling than where they thought he would be at the beginning of the off-season.

And I seriously can't believe people are arguing using pre-season stats. If you would rather have the guy who does well in the preseason than the guy who does well in the regular season, then great. Maybe one day, we'll have the best preseason, worst regular season team ever. We'll celebrate our throne as preseason national champions.
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Well we have only really seen Morency in the preseason, and forget the stats, this preseason he was our best back hands down.
 
Hervoyel said:
Honestly I think that Ron Dayne is going to be carrying the majority of the load before too long. I think that signing was far more significant than most of you believed at the time.
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Thats what I keep saying but no one listens.

Dayne was a huge pick up. He has size and speed and already knows the system. Not to mention he is a vet with starting experience unlike the rest of our backfield. The only question is can he catch.
 
Why didn't they do this trade earlier?

Did they both have to have badish games for it to be something that could happen?
 
Maybe they were not happy with the run game and are looking for a new spark. Hope it works, it will be needed against the Colts.
 
Frills said:
I know this assumption is way out there, but I'm guessing Sherman knows what he can and can't do.

I trust Sherman more than I trust a crap offensive coordinator who could only beat the last coaching staff by 3 points
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GB had fallen from the previous years playoff run to a dissapointing record that cost Sherman his job. But a lot of players were injured on that team. I hope that means the team could have been better w/o the injuries.

Sherman and Kubiak have inside info on GB and Denver so we should trust them two in the decisions to pick up or trade for players from those teams. If it doesnt pan out, they will join Capers and Casserly.
 
You should really read that article I posted it is great, and it will give you insight as to why we picked the young man up. read what Flannagin says about him!
 
Divebomb said:
OMG it is true!!!!! LOL GB are suckers!!!!:party:
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I second that! WTH were they thinking giving up Gado? Maybe Gado insisted on being traded and wants to be a starter somewhere. If I was a GB fan I'd be ticked.

Gado is a very good RB who did just fine last year. In his last four games last year he averaged 5.0 yards per carry.

Suckers! :perfect10:
 
Snapple said:
Quit comparing where Gado and Morency were drafted. That doesn't matter anymore.

Is Joey Harrington better than Tom Brady, because Harrington was the #3 overall pick and Brady was a second day pick? Of course not.

Gado has proven more in the league than Morency has. Go back and watch his game last year against Atlanta, where he absolutely destroyed. If Gado can't run the ball in Houston, it will be entirely because of our o-line talent and our run-bocking scheme. Because he can run.

Yeah, he fumbled the ball, but he was a rookie. Lots of rookie RBs fumble.

I like this trade a LOT.
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I agree with your post, but I have a question to you or anyone else who can answer it.

People here frequently suggest that someone 'go back' and watch a certain game.
Is there a source of games that you can just go back and watch?
I am being a little sarcastic, but I actually hoping that you'll point me somewhere.
 
nunusguy said:
I think this guy played in a nationaly televised game last year. The name is
so unusual and I remember the fuss about him. He broke a real long run in that game ? The Pack was playing someone in their divison as I recall ?
Is this a statement that the Packers don't like Gado that much, or they really see something in Morency and are willing to part with value for a prospect ?
I thought Morency was very impressive in preseason, way superior to Lundy.
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It could be that Morency wanted a trade and got it. He was pounding that trade drum in the pre-season.
 
I like this move. It gives us a guy who has produced even if it was for 6 or so games last year. I wouldn't be surprised if Gado took Lundy's job sometime in the season. As for Morency, I've always liked him since his days in Oklahoma State and wish him the best.
 
Anybody else see a problem with Lundy starting, Dayne coming off an injury and hasn't played within the last month, and Gado not knowing the system?

Will Gado even be activated for this game?
 
Kaiser Toro said:
We have the Colts on Sunday, that should be the only objective at the moment.
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That's my biggest problem with this. I don't see how playing musical players is really helping the team prepare for one of the toughest games of the year.
 
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