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if we get offered a 2022 round one I'm cashing that check before ink is dried.
There could be a Watt Family Reunion this season, in Houston
If Ben Roethlisberger decides to hang up his cleats, the Steelers should attempt to trade TJ Watt to the Houston Texans for Deshaun Watson.www.behindthesteelcurtain.com
I like the idea, but we better get more than just 2022 1st rounder in the process.
if we get offered a 2022 round one I'm cashing that check before ink is dried.There could be a Watt Family Reunion this season, in Houston
If Ben Roethlisberger decides to hang up his cleats, the Steelers should attempt to trade TJ Watt to the Houston Texans for Deshaun Watson.
I like the idea, but we better get more than just 2022 1st rounder in the process.
I will take a draft pick from Jets same as any team....
If they trade DW4 most of the cap/draft issues will be fixed and by next offseason (2022) they will should all be fixed. They will basically be an expansion team but they will be able to start out with four 1st rd picks. A 2021 1st (Pick #2) A 2021 2nd (Pick #34 just like a late rd 1st) Their 2022 pick which should be a high pick because 2021 should be about clearing bad contracts and getting your rookie 2021 QB #2 pick experience. Then you will also have another high 1st in the 2022 draft. (The Jets are going to suck) and your high 2022 2nd rd pick plus the Jets high 2nd rd pick.
So what does input mean in your book? At my work place having input means you get to give your opinion, point of view and your advice. It does not mean you get final say, it does not mean they will go with your suggestion, it doesn’t even mean they will value your input. It means you get to have your say and that’s it.
Moving the goalposts again. Pre cap era, build the team, minimize the qb was possible. Thats not possible anymore and you know it. Steve Young still had hall of famers not to mention they added hall of famers. Carry on though.
I do not disagree with you about Watson not being qualified in the slightest to pick a GM or HC.
He asked if an all pro/HOF type QB had been traded and the QB that replaced him was good? Montana/Young and that's not moving the goalposts.
We also have a chance that TJ ends up with the Texans. If Ben retired, rumor of a rebuild and trade of many top players is floating around. If JJ stays and TJ wants to play with him...we should make it happen. Can you imagine that front 7?
The Watson part is smart if he wants to go. We can get picks, players and get a good QB too. And who says if we traded with Miami that Tua isn't better than Watson in 2yrs? Or we draft Fields at 6' 3" 220-some who can make every throw. Plus have 2 more 1st round picks and a 2nd or 3rd too. That type trade is what can make a team go from awful with a few good players to SB bound. Look at what the Hershel Walker trade did in Dallas.
Montana was washed with that bad back. Steve Young basically made Montana expendable with his play. Oh yeah, young was also a former 1st rd pick.
Yet the yr after Montana was traded he lead the Chiefs to a AFCCG loss. Hardly what a washed QB could do.
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The reports that he was in the dark / misled / not heard are just not factual , he met with Cal not once but twice , his agent was present for one of those meetings & they discussed the direction of the team as far as HC / GM.
We're all speculating, but why hire a search firm if you already know who you're going to hire? Think about this, why did Esterbe get the interim gm job when the player personel guy who you interviewed for the gm was here? Its just all the dysfunction
It's really tricky. Can you really tie that much $ up in the qb position when you're already strapped as it is? Watson has way more leverage over us than he would on a team with a bunch of cap space and pics. If we're going to rebuild without him, we need those picks we could get in a trade and his agent knows this. I just don't agree with Herschel Walker compensation or no trade. I don't think that the market is anywhere near that and I think that it can still make sense to move him at the market if we really are at a dead end with him. Don't believe that we're there yet though.
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So you can make sure you have done your due diligence, so you can make sure that the guy you want is at least equal to the other candidates and so you can feel more comfortable about the hire you are making. Its like those change my mind challenges, "I'm wanting to hire Caserio, change my mind." You keep calling it dysfunction but its not, its a very corporate style of doing business and maybe thats not the way to run a football organization but its what the McNairs know so its what they will use. In their defense that method has worked for pretty much every major corporation in the world so there's that.
93-94 Season with Buddy Ryan. The year before was the Buffalo debacle. 94 was so bad, they drafted McNair in the 94-95 Draft
So you're in negotiations with Khan, then all of a sudden, you and Esterbunny hop a plane and go get Caserio. No zoom, no negotiation, they fly to NE because Caserio doesn't mind having Esterbunny in the mix. How many times have we seen a clean sweep when a coach is fired, yet Esterbunny and the other coaches are still here throughout the hiring process. Look at Atl and Detroit.
So its clear you haven’t been following any of the threads on these forums as you are repeating things that are pure speculation of which most have been debunked.
That's easy .... You have a candidate you really like in Caserio , you tell that search firm to compile a list of the very best candidates and weigh them against your guy , if one of them is better you hire that guy , if not , you go with your original plan.
I would trade both to free up cap space and recoup several draft choices, both of which the Texans desperately need. Lots of holes to fill on this team!
I’d take both those compensatory picks.
Once he sits down with David Culley & Lovie Smith I'm sure he'll come to see that opportunity is right here in H-Town.
God I hope not. Those things are awful.
Green Bay might have even less cap space than the Texans. The Colts and Jags could easily absorb his contract. Boy do I dread that happening
Agreed, but if they release him it wont matter.
It all depends on how little JJ is willing to play for. Green Bay is pretty bad up against the cap.
They owe him nothing for what he has done on the field, but I cant think of any other player who has done more in the Houston community.
Andre Johnson was not traded, he was released. The year before teams were offering 2nd and 3rd RD picks for Andre. Bob McNair said no.
Andre did a lot for Houston which is why he’s beloved. The difference is there wasn’t always a camera present when he did.
Point being the organization needs to do what’s best for the team and not whats best for JJ
Right now whats best for this team, which has earned the reputation for not giving a **** about its players, is to do right by JJ.
Yeah man players are totally going to forget about Deshaun and Hopkins when the Texans do what’s best for JJ
Cuts both ways.
Rather than embracing the suck and buying into a several year rebuild, I full expect this team to half ass it and create problems that didn’t need to exist along the way.
How does it cut both ways.