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Top 10 Draft Prospects. (Incl. JR's)
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YoungTexanFan
All Pro
there is no way a WR rates as a top 10 prospect this year.
huff is a toss up between the other two, but i like him at the top
vince, right now, is not a top 10 NFL prospect. He will be next year, but not quite yet.
Ryans will not grade out as the #2 LB. Yes, he has speed and smarts, but he is not the beast that other LB's are in this years class. I still like him as a pro prospect.
Where is this list from anyways?
huff is a toss up between the other two, but i like him at the top
vince, right now, is not a top 10 NFL prospect. He will be next year, but not quite yet.
Ryans will not grade out as the #2 LB. Yes, he has speed and smarts, but he is not the beast that other LB's are in this years class. I still like him as a pro prospect.
Where is this list from anyways?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
cough *Mathias Kiwanuka* cough
Blake
MMQB
infantrycak said:
I was waiting for someone to chime in with Kiwi.
Note: This is a personal top 10 prospect list.
I think Mathias will go 11-20. He is pushed out by a slew of franchise players this year.
Top 10 DE's form the last 5 years.
10 Baltimore Terrell Suggs OLB Arizona State
11 11 Dallas Ware, Demarcus DE 6-4 247 Troy State (ill give you 11)
2 Carolina Julius Peppers DE North Carolina
11 Indianapolis Dwight Freeney DE Syracuse (ill give you 11 again.)
4 Cincinnati Justin Smith DE Missouri
6 New England Richard Seymour DE Georgia
7 San Francisco Andre Carter DE California
10 Green Bay Jamal Reynolds DE Florida State
very few DE's go top 10.
Will Smith was picked #18 overall, and had a better NCAA career than MK.
Again this is JMHO.
WildBlackBear32
Rookie
THE NFL DRAFT said:
Very few DEs are 6'7 and run 4.65 as well.
WildBlackBear32
Rookie
GoTexans said:
Heisman means nothing.
YoungTexanFan
All Pro
WildBlackBear32 said:
thank you. heisman is based on college preformance. he led his team to the rose bowl granted, but he is still not a top 10 nfl prospect.
YoungTexanFan
All Pro
Co E-Z said:
the original post wasnt a draft order, it was a personal opinion on his top 10 pro prospects. If all teams were to draft by biggest need and take 4 qb's in the top 10, it would look like, in this order assuming all juniors declared: lienhart, quinn, cutler, young, jacobs
TexansCanes
Rookie
him going in the top top and being a top ten prospect are two different things. If those teams weren't looking for a qb who knows where he goes. i think he needs to go back and work on his motion, he could be a lot better qb with a better delivery. In the big 12 champ game i only saw him throw one really good pass and that was the td pass to thomas were he put it on the pylon and only his guy could get it. the rest of his passes were a little off target or were just lobs to a wr that is six inches taller than the db. the side arm action takes away from his accuracy and power plus can be deflected easily.
how about courtney brown on your list of defensive ends?
how about courtney brown on your list of defensive ends?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
THE NFL DRAFT said:
Try doing that exercise for safeties.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
THE NFL DRAFT said:
How is that responsive?
The answer is
Sean Taylor #5
Roy Williams #8
Using the same logic, Huff shouldn't be in the top 10. I like Huff as a player, but he hasn't received near the hype of Taylor or Williams. Plus there is the salary consideration for safeties. I just don't see him being taken in the top 10. No biggie though.
Blake
MMQB
infantrycak said:
It was more of a joke.
You are right. Not alot of S go high either. I just view Huff, and Williams as freaks at their position. While Kiwi is a good player, I would like to see him bulk up before I feel like he could go against a nfl tackle, and win.
I would put Kiwi in the top 12 though. Along with Jimmy Williams.
WildBlackBear32
Rookie
You knock Kiwanuka's size, but have Mario Williams up there. There is probably a 5-7 lb difference between the two. Kiwi only looks "smaller" because his arms are very long. I don't know how much stronger Kiwi has to be, he ROUTINELY throws tackles around in every game he plays(which he is healthy in...).
cadahnic
Rookie
Nice Ndraft. I am not sure on how you figured some of the guys and their order, but it is your personal opinion and I am not going to say it is wrong. Likely differs from some people, but the top 5 is likely pretty close. Not sure Demeco Ryans, Holmes, and Huff will grade out to be Top 10 guys.
WildBlackBear32
Rookie
THE NFL DRAFT said:
No. He's not. Anything you see listed publically is very,very inaccurate. I've been told he's anywhere from 276 to 279 now. If Mario is up to 316, then I will be the first to be impressed.
WildBlackBear32
Rookie
THE NFL DRAFT said:
Shrug, I'm just going by what the guy who plays right next to him tells me. We'll find out at the combine, if he decides to keep it on.
WildBlackBear32
Rookie
C Madd said:
Health issues??? Like the knee injury on the cheapshot?? Yea, I think from his 5 sack performance against Mario Williams and NC St proved that isnt an issue.
WildBlackBear32
Rookie
beerlover said:
Much better list.
Allen is the only name I would take out. Sub DeAngelo in.
TexansCanes
Rookie
good list but allen is out with that hip injury and i don't think a guy that missed half the year with a serious injury is a top ten prospect at this time.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
TexansCanes said:
point well taken! however if not injured would have been the top CB available in the draft, the top CB's usually go around the 8th pick so along with a fast recovery I fully expect him to return close enough to form by the combines that his stock will not be too damaged. he is the type of corner who plays tight coverage with little cushion, physical, strong and can bring it!
http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/Profiles/jasonallenprofile.htm
Mightymike
Waterboy
no way santonio holmes makes this list, especially at #6
YoungTexanFan
All Pro
Mightymike said:
thank you!
YoungTexanFan
All Pro
beerlover said:point well taken! however if not injured would have been the top CB available in the draft, the top CB's usually go around the 8th pick so along with a fast recovery I fully expect him to return close enough to form by the combines that his stock will not be too damaged. he is the type of corner who plays tight coverage with little cushion, physical, strong and can bring it!
http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/Profiles/jasonallenprofile.htm
new ideal!! After trading down, once or twice, to around the 8th pick, we take our LT. We then have at least 2 2nd round picks. Jason allen and whichever LB falls: Ryans, Brooks, Hodge, guy from UTEP.
In the third we pick up dumervile and a G.
in the fourth we pick up slay
Rounds 1-4
1st overall: traded to whoever picks third, they look to hope the #2 team for bush. In the process we pick up #3 overall, a second this year and next year
3rd overall: We trade to whoever is picking 8 (baltimore, miami?) so they can take leinhart. In this trade we aquire the #8 overall, a second this year, and a first next year.
8th overall: Eric Winston, LT
33 overall: top LB left: brooks, ryans, carpenter, hodge...
35 overall: jason allen, cb
40 overall: dumervile, de/lb
3rd round, 1st pick: Orin Haris, DT
3rd round, NO pick: Rocky Mcintosh, LB
4th round, 1st pick: Dwayne slay
5th round, 1st pick: Tauiti Luiti, OG
6th round: doesnt matter, wont make the new team
7th round: doesnt matter, wont make the new team
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
beerlover said:
..............
Only if Brady Quinn joins a monastery.
