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TJ Yates

Yates looked pretty good, although having AJ go down seemed to hinder him. He was definitely good enough to open the run game up. As long as he protects the ball we should be okay.
 
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2011/12/justice-texans-add-another-chapter-to-storybook-season/

When reporters kept asking Foster about this “third-string quarterback,” he finally interrupted them.

“He’s NOT third string,” he said. “He’s first string now. He’s a starter in this league and deserves that respect.”

He has become part of a team that seems itself as greater than the sum of its parts. It’s a team that’s enjoying winning for the first time, a team that believes the best is yet to come.

“We kept fighting for each other,” Quin said. “That’s what we do.”
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I love you Arian! In a manly way of course...:overreact:
 
Naiirb said:
If anyone missed the Fox pregame segment on the Texans and Yates here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MwWl_-KH0xU

AJ looked so happy in the video, it was disheartening seeing his reaction after he hurt his hamstring on the sidelines today.
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Anyone know what song/instrumental was in the vid?

DX-TEX said:
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2011/12/justice-texans-add-another-chapter-to-storybook-season/



I love you Arian! In a manly way of course...:overreact:
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Awesome!
 
I was curious how TJ Yates matched up with other rookie QBs making their first NFL starts, both from the 2011 draft class and from the past. This is by no means complete, yet I think it's interesting (take it as you will).

2011 Draft Class

#1 Cam Newton: 24-37, 64.9%, 422, 2 TDs, 1 INT, Rate 110.4

#10 Blain Gabbert: 12-21, 57.1%, 139, 1 TD, 1 INT, Rate 73.3

#12 Christian Ponder: 13-32, 40.6%, 219, 2 TD, 2 IT, Rate 59.2

#35 Andy Dalton: 10-15, 66.7%, 81, 1 TD, 0 INT, Rate 102.4

#152 TJ Yates: 12-25, 48%, 188, 1 TD, 0 INT, Rate 86.8


2010 Draft Class:

#1 Sam Bradford: 32-55, 58.2%, 253, 1 TD, 3 INT, Rate 53.1

#25 Tim Tebow: 8-16, 50.0%, 138, 1 TD, 0 INT, Rate 100.5

#85 Colt McCoy: 9-16, 56.3%, 74, 0 TD, 0 INT, Rate 68.2

Others...

#1 Peyton Manning: 21-37, 56.8%, 302, 1 TD, 3 INT, Rate 58.6

#1 Eli Manning: 17-37, 45.9%, 162, 1 TD, 2 INT, Rate 45.1

#90 Matt Schaub: 17-41, 41.5%, 188, 0 TD, 2 INT, Rate 35.4

#11 Ben Roethlisberger: 12-22, 54.5%, 163, 1 TD, 1 INT, Rate 74.6

#3 Matt Ryan: 9-13, 69.2%, 161, 1 TD, 0 INT, Rate 137.0

#18 Joe Flacco: 15-29, 51.7%, 129, 0 TD, 0 INT, Rate 63.7

#1 Matthew Stafford: 16-37, 43.2%, 205, 0 TD, 3 INT, Rate 27.4

#1 Carson Palmer: 18-27, 66.7%, 248, 2 TD, 1 INT, Rate 105.2

#27 Dan Marino: 19-29, 65.5%, 322, 3 TD, 2 INT, 108.7

#1 John Elway: 1-8, 12.5%, 14, 0 TD, 1 INT, Rate 0.0

#1 Steve Young: 16-27, 59.3%, 167, 0 TD, 0 INT, Rate 77.2

#1 Troy Aikman: 17-35, 48.6%, 180, 0 TD, 2 INT, Rate 40.2

#3 Vince Young: 14-29, 48.3%, 155, 1 TD, 2 INT, Rate 47.3

What does all this mean? Beats the **** out of me! :lol:
 
EVOLVIST said:
I was curious how TJ Yates matched up with other rookie QBs making their first NFL starts, both from the 2011 draft class and from the past. This is by no means complete, yet I think it's interesting (take it as you will).

2011 Draft Class

#1 Cam Newton: 24-37, 64.9%, 422, 2 TDs, 1 INT, Rate 110.4

#10 Blain Gabbert: 12-21, 57.1%, 139, 1 TD, 1 INT, Rate 73.3

#12 Christian Ponder: 13-32, 40.6%, 219, 2 TD, 2 IT, Rate 59.2

#35 Andy Dalton: 10-15, 66.7%, 81, 1 TD, 0 INT, Rate 102.4

#152 TJ Yates: 12-25, 48%, 188, 1 TD, 0 INT, Rate 86.8


2010 Draft Class:

#1 Sam Bradford: 32-55, 58.2%, 253, 1 TD, 3 INT, Rate 53.1

#25 Tim Tebow: 8-16, 50.0%, 138, 1 TD, 0 INT, Rate 100.5

#85 Colt McCoy: 9-16, 56.3%, 74, 0 TD, 0 INT, Rate 68.2

Others...

#1 Peyton Manning: 21-37, 56.8%, 302, 1 TD, 3 INT, Rate 58.6

#1 Eli Manning: 17-37, 45.9%, 162, 1 TD, 2 INT, Rate 45.1

#90 Matt Schaub: 17-41, 41.5%, 188, 0 TD, 2 INT, Rate 35.4

#11 Ben Roethlisberger: 12-22, 54.5%, 163, 1 TD, 1 INT, Rate 74.6

#3 Matt Ryan: 9-13, 69.2%, 161, 1 TD, 0 INT, Rate 137.0

#18 Joe Flacco: 15-29, 51.7%, 129, 0 TD, 0 INT, Rate 63.7

#1 Matthew Stafford: 16-37, 43.2%, 205, 0 TD, 3 INT, Rate 27.4

#1 Carson Palmer: 18-27, 66.7%, 248, 2 TD, 1 INT, Rate 105.2

#27 Dan Marino: 19-29, 65.5%, 322, 3 TD, 2 INT, 108.7

#1 John Elway: 1-8, 12.5%, 14, 0 TD, 1 INT, Rate 0.0

#1 Steve Young: 16-27, 59.3%, 167, 0 TD, 0 INT, Rate 77.2

#1 Troy Aikman: 17-35, 48.6%, 180, 0 TD, 2 INT, Rate 40.2

#3 Vince Young: 14-29, 48.3%, 155, 1 TD, 2 INT, Rate 47.3

What does all this mean? Beats the **** out of me! :lol:
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It means that Elway fellow, whoever he is, ain't worth a ****.:kitten:
 
EVOLVIST said:
I was curious how TJ Yates matched up with other rookie QBs making their first NFL starts, both from the 2011 draft class and from the past. This is by no means complete, yet I think it's interesting (take it as you will).

2011 Draft Class

#1 Cam Newton: 24-37, 64.9%, 422, 2 TDs, 1 INT, Rate 110.4

#10 Blain Gabbert: 12-21, 57.1%, 139, 1 TD, 1 INT, Rate 73.3

#12 Christian Ponder: 13-32, 40.6%, 219, 2 TD, 2 IT, Rate 59.2

#35 Andy Dalton: 10-15, 66.7%, 81, 1 TD, 0 INT, Rate 102.4

#152 TJ Yates: 12-25, 48%, 188, 1 TD, 0 INT, Rate 86.8


2010 Draft Class:

#1 Sam Bradford: 32-55, 58.2%, 253, 1 TD, 3 INT, Rate 53.1

#25 Tim Tebow: 8-16, 50.0%, 138, 1 TD, 0 INT, Rate 100.5

#85 Colt McCoy: 9-16, 56.3%, 74, 0 TD, 0 INT, Rate 68.2

Others...

#1 Peyton Manning: 21-37, 56.8%, 302, 1 TD, 3 INT, Rate 58.6

#1 Eli Manning: 17-37, 45.9%, 162, 1 TD, 2 INT, Rate 45.1

#90 Matt Schaub: 17-41, 41.5%, 188, 0 TD, 2 INT, Rate 35.4

#11 Ben Roethlisberger: 12-22, 54.5%, 163, 1 TD, 1 INT, Rate 74.6

#3 Matt Ryan: 9-13, 69.2%, 161, 1 TD, 0 INT, Rate 137.0

#18 Joe Flacco: 15-29, 51.7%, 129, 0 TD, 0 INT, Rate 63.7

#1 Matthew Stafford: 16-37, 43.2%, 205, 0 TD, 3 INT, Rate 27.4

#1 Carson Palmer: 18-27, 66.7%, 248, 2 TD, 1 INT, Rate 105.2

#27 Dan Marino: 19-29, 65.5%, 322, 3 TD, 2 INT, 108.7

#1 John Elway: 1-8, 12.5%, 14, 0 TD, 1 INT, Rate 0.0

#1 Steve Young: 16-27, 59.3%, 167, 0 TD, 0 INT, Rate 77.2

#1 Troy Aikman: 17-35, 48.6%, 180, 0 TD, 2 INT, Rate 40.2

#3 Vince Young: 14-29, 48.3%, 155, 1 TD, 2 INT, Rate 47.3

What does all this mean? Beats the **** out of me! :lol:
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Yates' numbers are more impressive considering we had a few drops and he was under pressure from time to time.
 
76Texan said:
Yates' numbers are more impressive considering we had a few drops and he was under pressure from time to time.
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The most important thing to know about Yates, is that he has a really good team around him.

Losing Andre again is going to test us against the Bengals, trying to keep up with Carolina's offense will be a test as well, & the Titans are going to make it a game Jan 1.

It's good to know that he's got a pretty good long ball. All we need is a receiver who can take advantage of it.
 
Some thoughts by Kubiak.

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Kubiak: "Matt (Schaub) will continue to be a big part of T.J.'s growth."
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Kubiak on Yates' deep ball: "He handled it the other day...He's capable of doing that."
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Kubiak on QB coach Greg Knapp: "The way he prepares those guys is as good as I've been around...He's the positive guy all the time w/them."
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Kubiak says he almost signed QB Jeff Garcia earlier. Says he wants 2 veterans behind @TJ_Yates.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Some thoughts by Kubiak.
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Man, I re-watched that game yesterday and I just had a big ol' grin on my face watching him play...

Some of the sacks he avoided...Some of the passes he threw...Just excellent stuff from a rookie 5th rounder...

I think that the announcers on on the broadcast were a little reluctant to point out just how well the guy played....Mostly out of shock...

I had already seen the game live and I still found myself flinching and shocked when he got away from some sacks...

I think it was 3rd quarter and the DE had gotten around Winston and I thought to myself Oh ****...TJ wasn't looking at the guy...he was looking down field...At the last second he gave him the 'ooptie oop' and hit Arian for like an 8 or 9 yard pass...
 
EVOLVIST said:
I was curious how TJ Yates matched up with other rookie QBs making their first NFL starts, both from the 2011 draft class and from the past. This is by no means complete, yet I think it's interesting (take it as you will).

2011 Draft Class

#1 Cam Newton: 24-37, 64.9%, 422, 2 TDs, 1 INT, Rate 110.4

#10 Blain Gabbert: 12-21, 57.1%, 139, 1 TD, 1 INT, Rate 73.3

#12 Christian Ponder: 13-32, 40.6%, 219, 2 TD, 2 IT, Rate 59.2

#35 Andy Dalton: 10-15, 66.7%, 81, 1 TD, 0 INT, Rate 102.4

#152 TJ Yates: 12-25, 48%, 188, 1 TD, 0 INT, Rate 86.8


2010 Draft Class:

#1 Sam Bradford: 32-55, 58.2%, 253, 1 TD, 3 INT, Rate 53.1

#25 Tim Tebow: 8-16, 50.0%, 138, 1 TD, 0 INT, Rate 100.5

#85 Colt McCoy: 9-16, 56.3%, 74, 0 TD, 0 INT, Rate 68.2

Others...

#1 Peyton Manning: 21-37, 56.8%, 302, 1 TD, 3 INT, Rate 58.6

#1 Eli Manning: 17-37, 45.9%, 162, 1 TD, 2 INT, Rate 45.1

#90 Matt Schaub: 17-41, 41.5%, 188, 0 TD, 2 INT, Rate 35.4

#11 Ben Roethlisberger: 12-22, 54.5%, 163, 1 TD, 1 INT, Rate 74.6

#3 Matt Ryan: 9-13, 69.2%, 161, 1 TD, 0 INT, Rate 137.0

#18 Joe Flacco: 15-29, 51.7%, 129, 0 TD, 0 INT, Rate 63.7

#1 Matthew Stafford: 16-37, 43.2%, 205, 0 TD, 3 INT, Rate 27.4

#1 Carson Palmer: 18-27, 66.7%, 248, 2 TD, 1 INT, Rate 105.2

#27 Dan Marino: 19-29, 65.5%, 322, 3 TD, 2 INT, 108.7

#1 John Elway: 1-8, 12.5%, 14, 0 TD, 1 INT, Rate 0.0

#1 Steve Young: 16-27, 59.3%, 167, 0 TD, 0 INT, Rate 77.2

#1 Troy Aikman: 17-35, 48.6%, 180, 0 TD, 2 INT, Rate 40.2

#3 Vince Young: 14-29, 48.3%, 155, 1 TD, 2 INT, Rate 47.3

What does all this mean? Beats the **** out of me! :lol:
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Has a rookie QB taken that low ever made a start before? Doesn't seem to be anyone on that list even close!
 
welsh texan said:
Has a rookie QB taken that low ever made a start before? Doesn't seem to be anyone on that list even close!
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Yes! Only 3 QBs before TJ Yates were 5th round rookies to make a start in the NFL and win their first games:

1978 - Randy Dean (New York Giants, 5th round - 117th overall)
8-14, 57.1%, 24, 1 TD, 1 INT, Rate 56.2

1978 - Cliff Olander (San Diego Chargers, 5th round - 128th overall)
5-13, 38.5%, 51, 0 TDs 2 INT, Rate 10.9

2004 - Craig Krenzel (Chicago Bears, 5th round - 148th overall)
13-25, 52.0%, 168, 1 TD, 1 INT, Rate 70.1


Only Krenzel won his second start. If TJ Yates wins 3 in a row, he holds the record (small though it may be).
 
EVOLVIST said:
Yes! Only 3 QBs before TJ Yates were 5th round rookies to make a start in the NFL and win their first games:

1978 - Randy Dean (New York Giants, 5th round - 117th overall)
8-14, 57.1%, 24, 1 TD, 1 INT, Rate 56.2

1978 - Cliff Olander (San Diego Chargers, 5th round - 128th overall)
5-13, 38.5%, 51, 0 TDs 2 INT, Rate 10.9

2004 - Craig Krenzel (Chicago Bears, 5th round - 148th overall)
13-25, 52.0%, 168, 1 TD, 1 INT, Rate 70.1


Only Krenzel won his second start. If TJ Yates wins 3 in a row, he holds the record (small though it may be).
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Yeah, but look up 6th round and beyond. There are a few. Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl, for instance, and was drafted in the 9th round. I know Jeff Blake was a late round pick. Of course there's Kurt Warner and Tom Brady that everyone brings up, but there's also guys like Ryan Fitzpatrick and Matt Cassell, both taken in the 7th round. Bruce Gradkowski won a few games as a 6th round pick. Joe Webb was taken in the 6th round and won a couple games with the Vikings last year or '09, I forget which. Orton was taken in the 4th round. Derek Anderson was taken in the 6th round and went to a Pro Bowl. Rosenfels was taken in the 4th round. Bulger was taken in the 6th round the same year as Brady. Hasselbeck was taken in the 6th round and led his team to multiple playoff games and a Super Bowl. Gus Frerotte was a 7th rounder that won a Super Bowl, and Mark Rypien was a 7th rounder that won a SB. Mark Brunell was a 5th rounder. Stan Humphries was a 6th rounder that took his team to the Super Bowl. As you go further back into the past, you're more likely to find late round QBs that started for their teams in playoffs and Super Bowls, like David Woodley or Steve DeBerg.

Anyway, I could go on and on, but the point is, NFL personnel people miss in the draft. And you have to ask yourself how many late round QBs didn't pan out because they were crappy QBs (plenty) vs. how many never panned out because they were never given the sort of opportunity that a high round QB draft pick is given (some)? Give a QB coaching and opportunity and see what he does with it. I think Yates will do well if given enough of both.
 
infantrycak said:
He specified rookies. Brad Johnson didn't start any games until his 3rd year. Jeff Blake 2nd year. Kurt Warner 2nd year in NFL. Tom Brady 2nd year.
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Fair enough, but I don't think there are many highly drafted rookies that have had a great deal of success to start with, either. I just wanted to make the point that draft position doesn't matter as much as people think it does, at least in terms of talent. It matters in how much opportunity they're given.
 
eriadoc said:
Yeah, but look up 6th round and beyond. There are a few. Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl, for instance, and was drafted in the 9th round. I know Jeff Blake was a late round pick. Of course there's Kurt Warner and Tom Brady that everyone brings up, but there's also guys like Ryan Fitzpatrick and Matt Cassell, both taken in the 7th round. Bruce Gradkowski won a few games as a 6th round pick. Joe Webb was taken in the 6th round and won a couple games with the Vikings last year or '09, I forget which. Orton was taken in the 4th round. Derek Anderson was taken in the 6th round and went to a Pro Bowl. Rosenfels was taken in the 4th round. Bulger was taken in the 6th round the same year as Brady. Hasselbeck was taken in the 6th round and led his team to multiple playoff games and a Super Bowl. Gus Frerotte was a 7th rounder that won a Super Bowl, and Mark Rypien was a 7th rounder that won a SB. Mark Brunell was a 5th rounder. Stan Humphries was a 6th rounder that took his team to the Super Bowl.

Anyway, I could go on and on, but the point is, NFL personnel people miss in the draft. And you have to ask yourself how many late round QBs didn't pan out because they were crappy QBs (plenty) vs. how many never panned out because they were never given the sort of opportunity that a high round QB draft pick is given (some)? Give a QB coaching and opportunity and see what he does with it. I think Yates will do well if given enough of both.
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I know where you're coming from, but the conversation was about starting rookies and wins...not late round QBs and their success.

Mark Brunell didn't start as a rookie
Tom Brady did not start as a rookie
Brad Johnson didn't start as a rookie
Jeff Blake didn't start as a rookie
Kurt Warner didn't start as a rookie
Matt Cassel didn't start as a rookie
Sage Rosenfels didn't start as a rookie
Matt Hasselbeck did not start as a rookie
Stan Humphries did not start as a rookie.


Only half of the names you listed started as a rookies: Fitzpatrick, Gradkowski, Webb, Anderson, Frerotte, Bulger, Rypien and Orton

The only ones to start with any success were Webb, Frerotte and Bulger. Joe Webb was out of the league in two years.

The point is, because we're left with a short list again that it is ideal for a rookie - or any QB draft pick for that matter - to sit and learn the game a while for their odds of success to grow. See all of the above, see Steve McNair (1st round), Steve Deberg (10th round), etc...

Again, like Randy Dean, Cliff Olander and Craig Krenzel, the odds are stacked against TJ Yates for success. One can only hope for the young man that in 10 years people will remember TJ Yates, at least in the same breath as Bulger and Frerotte, at the most in the same breath as Tom Brady and Kurt Warner.
 
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Ran across this and had to laugh.
 
Rey said:
Man, I re-watched that game yesterday and I just had a big ol' grin on my face watching him play...

Some of the sacks he avoided...Some of the passes he threw...Just excellent stuff from a rookie 5th rounder...

I think that the announcers on on the broadcast were a little reluctant to point out just how well the guy played....Mostly out of shock...

I had already seen the game live and I still found myself flinching and shocked when he got away from some sacks...

I think it was 3rd quarter and the DE had gotten around Winston and I thought to myself Oh ****...TJ wasn't looking at the guy...he was looking down field...At the last second he gave him the 'ooptie oop' and hit Arian for like an 8 or 9 yard pass...
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My dad called me Monday.

He has been threatening to abandon the Cowboys for about a year now. He recently abandoned the Democrat party about 3 years ago. So he's sort of shaking up his paradigms in terms of having been long-term, diehard Dem and now considering bolting the Cowboys too.

He said watching TJ Yates did it for him. He's enjoying watching the Texans and what they're doing (and have been doing for awhile now). He said he can't put up with Jerry Jones' antics anymore. So he's on board now.

My dad and I used to have little friendly squabbles back when I was a kid. He had his 1990s Cowboys Super Bowl teams that he would rub in my face, asking me how I could ever want to be an Oilers fan when I could be rooting for the best team in Texas (the Cowboys). LOL. Well, that lake has run dry and I think he sees the classy ways of McNair and he sees the sideline demeanor of Kubiak, and it reminds him of the Landry years of long ago.

I'm going to re-watch the Falcons game because I, too, was amazed at Yates escaping all those pressures the way he did.
 
Good post GP. When you see that a group or a person isn't rewarding your longterm loyalty because they refuse to change, there is no shame in jumping ship.

On Yates, today I read a rumor on Rotowire that there were "grumblings" that Kubiak would prefer a vet QB take over and lead after we got deep in the playoffs and he had time to learn the playbook. It sounded like the kind of thing a national media outsider would speculate, then pass off as inside info.
 
Brisco_County said:
Good post GP. When you see that a group or a person isn't rewarding your longterm loyalty because they refuse to change, there is no shame in jumping ship.

On Yates, today I read a rumor on Rotowire that there were "grumblings" that Kubiak would prefer a vet QB take over and lead after we got deep in the playoffs and he had time to learn the playbook. It sounded like the kind of thing a national media outsider would speculate, then pass off as inside info.
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I hope not. I want us to stick it out with TJ. The players are behind him, and I think he gives us a better chance to win than either Garcia or Delhomme. My "Anybody But Kubiak" sig courtesy of GP will go back up if he benches TJ for no reason other than to feel more comfortable with a vet in there.
 
Brisco_County said:
On Yates, today I read a rumor on Rotowire that there were "grumblings" that Kubiak would prefer a vet QB take over and lead after we got deep in the playoffs and he had time to learn the playbook. It sounded like the kind of thing a national media outsider would speculate, then pass off as inside info.
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Right.

If anything, I'm thinking Kubiak wants to have a veteran QB available to take over should Yates get into trouble.

But I'm willing to bet my house that Kubiak understands he's caught lightning in a bottle with his team's chemistry and he's not about to screw that up by summarily pulling the plug on the kid.
 
Brisco_County said:
Good post GP. When you see that a group or a person isn't rewarding your longterm loyalty because they refuse to change, there is no shame in jumping ship.

On Yates, today I read a rumor on Rotowire that there were "grumblings" that Kubiak would prefer a vet QB take over and lead after we got deep in the playoffs and he had time to learn the playbook. It sounded like the kind of thing a national media outsider would speculate, then pass off as inside info.
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Are you sure that it didn't refer to the fact that Kubiak preferred a vet BACKING UP Yates, and therefore led to Garcia's signing (which was reported)????
 
GP said:
My dad called me Monday.

He has been threatening to abandon the Cowboys for about a year now. He recently abandoned the Democrat party about 3 years ago. So he's sort of shaking up his paradigms in terms of having been long-term, diehard Dem and now considering bolting the Cowboys too.

He said watching TJ Yates did it for him. He's enjoying watching the Texans and what they're doing (and have been doing for awhile now). He said he can't put up with Jerry Jones' antics anymore. So he's on board now.

My dad and I used to have little friendly squabbles back when I was a kid. He had his 1990s Cowboys Super Bowl teams that he would rub in my face, asking me how I could ever want to be an Oilers fan when I could be rooting for the best team in Texas (the Cowboys). LOL. Well, that lake has run dry and I think he sees the classy ways of McNair and he sees the sideline demeanor of Kubiak, and it reminds him of the Landry years of long ago.

I'm going to re-watch the Falcons game because I, too, was amazed at Yates escaping all those pressures the way he did.
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That's awesome...

My uncle is a huge cowboy and jets fan....He got me into the cowboys and Jets when I was younger...

Skeletons...In...the....closet....
 
I was thinking about something else with Yates...

In hindsight, that INT/Non-INT he threw was probably a good thing to humble him. Not saying he was a cocky kid or anything, but he's human. You come out and have a successful day and you start believing the news clippings. On that same drive after Dunta helped us out for old times sake we scored the go ahead TD that turned out to be the winning score...TJ made some nice throws, we pounded the rock and he had that nice run that put us in position to go for it on 4th and short...After we got that first down it was pretty much academic from there...

Anyways, I hope he remembers and forgets that INT that really wasn't...
 
T.J. Yates worships at the altar of Tim Tebow: Does the new Houston Texans quarterback know magic?

Yates may be the most unlikely starting quarterback in the NFL this year - one of the most unlikely this decade. A rookie third stringer, a fifth-round draft pick to boot, on the Houston Texans, who came into the season with one of the most secure quarterback situations in the entire league.

When's that guy ever going to see the field?

The answer is all too real for Texans fans of course: When an 8-3 team loses Matt Schaub to a crushed foot and his backup Matt Leinart to a broken collarbone in consecutive games, that's when. To expect Yates to keep Houston in contention for the No. 1 seed in the AFC, or even to keep the starting job for the rest of the year, one would almost have to believe in magic.

Yates found himself getting booed during his junior year of college at North Carolina, he went to Atlanta to attend the SEC Championship Game, even though the Tar Heels are in a completely different conference and weren't going to play either Florida or Alabama. Yates went, in part, because he wanted to check out Tim Tebow.

This was in 2009, during the heart of Tebow Mania in college football, eye black messages and all. Tebow didn't perform any miracles on that day, in fact his Gators got drilled by Nick Saban's soon-to-be national champion Crimson Tide 32-13. But Yates still soaked up everything he could........

"I was kind of mesmerized," Yates told the Greensboro News & Record at the time. "I had good seats, so I was studying everything Tim Tebow did, how he carried himself throughout the game. It was definitely a good experience. It gives you motivation to want to play in a game like that on a big stage like that."

Hey, if you're looking for quarterback magic, you check out Tebow. With Tim now Tebowing the NFL, going 5-1 as the Denver Broncos starter despite passing stats that would make most Texas high school coaches toss in their sleep, Yates comes across as ahead of the curve. He knew the way Tebow carried himself in the huddle (notice, he didn't say he studied Tebow's passing motion) was extraordinary. Worth going to school on..........
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Now two years later, Yates find himself starting a big NFL game sooner than even he ever could have expected. He'll be going up against Atlanta Falcons quarterback and Schaub buddy Matt Ryan - who's still one of the top young quarterbacks in the league, no matter what his critics think - at Reliant Stadium Sunday afternoon. While no one expects Yates to win a quarterback duel with Ryan (who has a nine to two touchdown-to-interception ratio the last four weeks) - in fact, the Texans cannot win that way - the 24-year-old making his first career NFL start could bring a little Tebow to the table.

No, not in playing style. While more mobile than Schaub (you can also say that about some cement trucks), the 6-foot-4, 220-pound Yates is not anywhere close to the running weapon that Tebow is.

But where he might be able to bring some Tebowing is in the unnatural composure part.
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His understanding of the need to lean on tight end Owen Daniels (still the Texans' most dangerous downfield passing weapon until Andre Johnson shows he's completely back) on that rushed-on drive is also encouraging.

“He’s fine," Schaub said of Yates going into the game. "His state of mind . . . he has a calm presence. He has good poise and composure.

"He’s not going to be deer in the headlights or anything like that."

None of this guarantees that Yates will play well against the Falcons. Or even that he won't be benched for veteran Jake Delhomme, who the Texans just signed off the farm this week, by the fourth quarter of Sunday's game. There are few grace periods in the NFL and an 8-3 team cannot wait for anyone - even if that someone has near-Tebow grace.

Yates is used to making quick decisions. He gave up on football his junior year of high school, convinced that he'd make a better major college basketball player. But when the schools he expected to want him in hoops showed little interest, he went back out for football his senior year - and became a four-year starting quarterback at North Carolina, one of those schools where he always wanted to play basketball.

This is a man who can adjust on the fly. That SEC title game trip shows he knows who to study too. But now the Texans want to know: Does T.J. Yates have any magic of his own?
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Written before the Falcons game but a good read.

http://houston.culturemap.com/newsd...he-new-houston-texans-quarterback-know-magic/
 
drs23 said:
TJ rockin' his trademark pinkie on his free hand. Truely a man's man who's comfy with his style.

I really like this guy.
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Hey now, he's just practicing by throwing the football with one hand and holding the hardware in the other. Can't blame the guy for preparing for his destiny!

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T.J. Yates and other young QBs aren't out of their depth in NFL

Yates, a former third-stringer for Houston who played well in his first start, a win over Atlanta, is one of several inexperienced quarterbacks thrust into prominent roles with playoff contenders.

Texans quarterback T.J. Yates is given some encouraging words from wide receiver Kevin Walter in the fourth quarter Sunday against the Atlanta Falcons.

The Houston Texans have never made the NFL playoffs, but they're heading into the stretch run with a two-game lead in the AFC South, the league's No. 2 defense and No. 3 running game.

And they have a rookie quarterback in T.J. Yates, a fifth-round pick who was an afterthought invitee to the scouting combine and spent most of this season as a third-stringer behind Matt Schaub and Matt Leinart.

Yates might sound like a 16-year-old kid holding the keys to a Maserati, but that's not how his teammates look at him — especially after his respectable performance in Sunday's 17-10 victory over Atlanta. Making his first NFL start, he completed 12 of 15 passes for 188 yards with a touchdown and no interceptions.

"I knew he was going to come out poised," tackle Eric Winston said Monday by phone. "I knew he'd embrace the moment and the moment wouldn't be too big for him."

That's good, because the moments are only going to get bigger. Yates is among a handful of young quarterbacks thrust into the spotlight for teams still alive in the playoff race.
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http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/05/sports/la-sp-farmer-nfl-20111206
 
I think a lot of TJ Yates' poise and early success is because of the team he has around him. The Texans are clearly a confident team. The defense can hold their own against anyone and the offense, while not spectacular, is very gritty with Arian Foster and Ben Tate leading the way (along with the O-line). Even with all of our injuries, the Texans haven't lost confidence in their ability to dominate a game. I think that gives Yates a lot more confidence about managing the game and helping this team win.
 
Until TJ has to bring the team back from a big deficit, or convert some critical 3rd downs to keep a drive going, I don't think we really know what we've got. He certainly hasn't had to do either in the 6 or 7 quarters that he's played so far.

Maybe he will have such an opportunity in Cicinnatti.
 
QB75 said:
Until TJ has to bring the team back from a big deficit, or convert some critical 3rd downs to keep a drive going, I don't think we really know what we've got. He certainly hasn't had to do either in the 6 or 7 quarters that he's played so far.

Maybe he will have such an opportunity in Cicinnatti.
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Exactly. But also, if TJ Yates is everything the team and the fans make him out to be, we also need to see steady progress - game by game - and not a regression or simply the status quo.

That's not to say if he goes in and stinks it up against Cincy I would be off his bandwagon, per se, but if he falters, he would really need to bounce back against the Pathers, and so on.

In other words, with 4 games left in the schedule it will be about his body of work going into the playoffs that will not only tell us how we'll fare in the post-season, but also how Yates could perform as a future starter.

A reminder: No rookie 5th round QB has ever one three games in a row.
 
EVOLVIST said:
Exactly. But also, if TJ Yates is everything the team and the fans make him out to be, we also need to see steady progress - game by game - and not a regression or simply the status quo.

That's not to say if he goes in and stinks it up against Cincy I would be off his bandwagon, per se, but if he falters, he would really need to bounce back against the Pathers, and so on.

In other words, with 4 games left in the schedule it will be about his body of work going into the playoffs that will not only tell us how we'll fare in the post-season, but also how Yates could perform as a future starter.

A reminder: No rookie 5th round QB has ever one three games in a row.
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One has to wonder how many rookie 5th round QBs have even played three games in row.

Anyway, I think that it will be a tough game tomorrow.
 
What happens is....... What I said was....

TJ will make a number of good plays, BUT he will throw a pick (or in general) make a bad play.... That said, when we ALL freak out after that, we WIN!! We are laying 3, but I got us for the straight up WIN!!

Of course whenever I say "Book it"!!! I am all about FAIL!! We'll see tomorrow. I have the Texans by 8!!!! 24-16(ish).....
 
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