Keep Texans Talk Google Ad Free!
Venmo Tip Jar | Paypal Tip Jar
Thanks for your support! 🍺😎👍

This game (Miami) will show what this team and coach is made of.

Good Thread. I was thinking the same thing today.
This is the biggest game in franchise history....at least what I think.
We are going to see how bad this team wants to win the big game. This is it. Win or go home and play another ho hum game next week.

The leaders on this team need to show up tommorrow. Time to "man up". No excuses. Get er done.

It all comes down to who wants it more. Who is going to control the line of scrimmage. Who is going to win the battles in the trenches. Who is going to get the pressure on the other.
 
Hervoyel said:
This game is going to tell us what we're made of? Right.

If they lose tomorrow we'll be hearing how the New England game will tell us what this coach and team are made of. If they lose that but McNair brings Kubiak back then we'll be hearing how next season will really tell us what's been accomplished. Then if we start slow we'll hear some other excuse for that but as soon as they win a game or two (against some bad teams) they'll all start talking about how they've really, really changed now and the "old Texans" are gone. Then they'll hit a rough patch (at approximately the same time they play a really good team) and we'll get to watch Eric Winston talk about how he doesn't know why this happens but they have to keep battling.....

This record has been skipping in that exact same spot for three years now.
Click to expand...

Seriously? Really? Look, I will whole-heartedly admit we are not where I would have liked us to be, but to suggest that we are in the same spot we were three years ago is rediculous. We are a respected team now for the FIRST time in franchise history. I seriously doubt there is any team in this league that licks their chops at the thought of playing against the Texans. Maybe Indy fans, but even their players realize that we are no pushover and it takes everything they can muster to pull off a win.
 
rush2112mn said:
Good Thread. I was thinking the same thing today.
This is the biggest game in franchise history....at least what I think.
We are going to see how bad this team wants to win the big game. This is it. Win or go home and play another ho hum game next week.

The leaders on this team need to show up tommorrow. Time to "man up". No excuses. Get er done.

It all comes down to who wants it more. Who is going to control the line of scrimmage. Who is going to win the battles in the trenches. Who is going to get the pressure on the other.
Click to expand...

Yep. This is exactly what I said on page one of this thread. This will come down to who "wants it" more.
 
euro-Texan said:
Seriously? Really? Look, I will whole-heartedly admit we are not where I would have liked us to be, but to suggest that we are in the same spot we were three years ago is rediculous. We are a respected team now for the FIRST time in franchise history. I seriously doubt there is any team in this league that licks their chops at the thought of playing against the Texans. Maybe Indy fans, but even their players realize that we are no pushover and it takes everything they can muster to pull off a win.
Click to expand...

Yes, we're respected more now than we were a few years ago, but that hasn't translated to W's. And, I think the point he was making was that this team has developed a pattern.

It's not a stretch to predict next season using this teams past performance as a baseline. For example, next year we're looking at at least five division losses. That's five losses right off the bat. Then, the AFC East will bring about two (and I'm being generous). That's seven losses.

Then, there's always a random loss or two thrown in, so that's at least 8, possibly 9 losses next year.

That may seem harsh, but I think based on this team's performance, it's fair.
 
Hervoyel said:
This game is going to tell us what we're made of? Right.

If they lose tomorrow we'll be hearing how the New England game will tell us what this coach and team are made of. If they lose that but McNair brings Kubiak back then we'll be hearing how next season will really tell us what's been accomplished. Then if we start slow we'll hear some other excuse for that but as soon as they win a game or two (against some bad teams) they'll all start talking about how they've really, really changed now and the "old Texans" are gone. Then they'll hit a rough patch (at approximately the same time they play a really good team) and we'll get to watch Eric Winston talk about how he doesn't know why this happens but they have to keep battling.....

This record has been skipping in that exact same spot for three years now.
Click to expand...

euro-Texan said:
Seriously? Really? Look, I will whole-heartedly admit we are not where I would have liked us to be, but to suggest that we are in the same spot we were three years ago is rediculous. We are a respected team now for the FIRST time in franchise history. I seriously doubt there is any team in this league that licks their chops at the thought of playing against the Texans. Maybe Indy fans, but even their players realize that we are no pushover and it takes everything they can muster to pull off a win.
Click to expand...


I need to go more with Hervoyel's take. How many times could you tell YOUR boss "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today"?:shades:
 
While I'm not excited about what could have been, I'm excited about the progress we have made. This is a big game tomorrow. It's the first time we have had one this late in the season. Everyone trashes this team because we've only beaten the teams were suppsed to. That is progress for us. It means we are better than losers. Three years ago we were St Louis, Seattle, Oakland, ect. We now see our players listed on top of the league leaders and we focus on what could/should have been, but make no mistake we are moving forward. The peices are coming together. A win tomorrow will raise the water mark on this franchise and will show the steady progress that leads to dominating this league.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I need to go more with Hervoyel's take. How many times could you tell YOUR boss "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today"?:shades:
Click to expand...

Say we fire the coach, hire a new one and trim the fat to build his team, how many years do we wait until we deceide it's time for another change?
 
euro-Texan said:
We are a respected team now for the FIRST time in franchise history.
Click to expand...
Who needs wins when you have R-E-S-P-E-C-T?

We are "better than losers"? That's the big step the Texans took this season? Seriously? Really?
 
euro-Texan said:
While I'm not excited about what could have been, I'm excited about the progress we have made. This is a big game tomorrow. It's the first time we have had one this late in the season. Everyone trashes this team because we've only beaten the teams were suppsed to. That is progress for us. It means we are better than losers. Three years ago we were St Louis, Seattle, Oakland, ect. We now see our players listed on top of the league leaders and we focus on what could/should have been, but make no mistake we are moving forward. The peices are coming together. A win tomorrow will raise the water mark on this franchise and will show the steady progress that leads to dominating this league.
Click to expand...

Fair enough. We haven't agreed in this thread, but I like your optimism and attitude.
 
houstonspartan said:
My only concern, though, is that we still have a horrible division record, and a bad record against competitive teams overall.

That's not good.
Click to expand...

I don't either, but it's the next step. call me an optimist, but I believe that had Kris Brown kicked some damn FG's, had our backs held on to the football, had we not lost one of the best TE's in the game we would have a better record. Everyone loses players to injury, players screw up and great teams go on irregardless (see Colts), we are NOT a great team yet, but don't let the W/L colum blind you we are moving forward.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The HC, coaches and players should be playing this game (and the next) as though their jobs depended on it. Unfortunately, most of them, including the HC pretty well KNOW that THEY AREN'T.:mcnugget:
Click to expand...

I dissagree. Despite the fact that we have very little chance at making the playoffs we do have a chance. If you are McNair this is exactly the type of situation you want judge your progress by. I guarantee you Kubiak and the team know this and the owner knows they know it.

Im not saying that we have to win this game but we dam well better come out and show some heart and Kubiak better not make any questionable decisions that contribute to a loss. Personally I think Kubiak has failed as a coach thus far. I dont think he deserves another chance no matter what happens the rest of this year but its not up to me. McNair has already made his feelings known on the situation.

I dont see how McNair could justify keeping Kubiak one more year if the team looks unprepaired or if Kubiak continues to make coaching errors in a playoff elimination game.

Factor all this in and this IS the biggest game of Kubiaks tenure. Its time for him to show what he is made of as a coach or return to a coordinator position.
 
euro-Texan said:
I don't either, but it's the next step. call me an optimist, but I believe that had Kris Brown kicked some damn FG's, had our backs held on to the football, had we not lost one of the best TE's in the game we would have a better record. Everyone loses players to injury, players screw up and great teams go on irregardless (see Colts), we are NOT a great team yet, but don't let the W/L colum blind you we are moving forward.
Click to expand...


Big Dr. Evil "Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight" for you there. I'll make a point of not letting those pesky losses cloud my opinion of the team.
 
Hervoyel said:
Big Dr. Evil "Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight" for you there. I'll make a point of not letting those pesky losses cloud my opinion of the team.
Click to expand...

hahaha. I'm saying a three point loss to a team you should have beat, but lost too because your kicker can't do his job is NOT as bad a 30 point loss to a team that dominates you on every side of the ball.
 
Show what the coach is made of? This is a big game towards the slim chances at the playoffs. I thought we already knew how Gary faired in "big games"? ;)
 
The guys on the NFL network just had a lightening round where a question was asked and they all had to answer it. One question was: "Who'se more likely to be fired, Jack Del Rio or Gary Kubiak?"

They all said Kubiak. ALL OF THEM.

Del Rio gets a lot of flack, but he knows how to rally his players at the right time to win and turn a season around.
 
houstonspartan said:
The guys on the NFL network just had a lightening round where a question was asked and they all had to answer it. One question was: "Who'se more likely to be fired, Jack Del Rio or Gary Kubiak?"

They all said Kubiak. ALL OF THEM.

Del Rio gets a lot of flack, but he knows how to rally his players at the right time to win and turn a season around.
Click to expand...

NFL LIGHTNING ROUND???? Well the gods have spoken!
 
houstonspartan said:
The guys on the NFL network just had a lightening round where a question was asked and they all had to answer it. One question was: "Who'se more likely to be fired, Jack Del Rio or Gary Kubiak?"

They all said Kubiak. ALL OF THEM.

Del Rio gets a lot of flack, but he knows how to rally his players at the right time to win and turn a season around.
Click to expand...

Did they mention which one of the Jonas brother was cuter?
 
houstonspartan said:
The guys on the NFL network just had a lightening round where a question was asked and they all had to answer it. One question was: "Who'se more likely to be fired, Jack Del Rio or Gary Kubiak?"

They all said Kubiak. ALL OF THEM.

Del Rio gets a lot of flack, but he knows how to rally his players at the right time to win and turn a season around.
Click to expand...

Didn't they pick Pittsburg to win the AFC?
 
euro-Texan said:
ummmmm that is my point
Click to expand...

Uh, guess why they predicted us at 11 games? Because we are TALENTED. You don't seem to think so, but trust, me, we are.

Look, you keep your low standards and acceptance of shitty football. The rest of us like to win, and we think four years is enough.
 
houstonspartan said:
The guys on the NFL network just had a lightening round where a question was asked and they all had to answer it. One question was: "Who'se more likely to be fired, Jack Del Rio or Gary Kubiak?"

They all said Kubiak. ALL OF THEM.
Click to expand...
Kubiak has only one year left on his contract. JDR is under contract through 2012. Wayne Weaver couldn't afford to can Del Rio if he wanted to.
 
houstonspartan said:
Uh, guess why they predicted us at 11 games? Because we are TALENTED. You don't seem to think so, but trust, me, we are.

Look, you keep your low standards and acceptance of shitty football. The rest of us like to win, and we think four years is enough.
Click to expand...

Ohhh yall like to win? ****! I was looking for a fan site where we could relish in sub-par performance. I guess I'm in the wrong site. Are you high?
 
Lucky said:
Kubiak has only one year left on his contract. JDR is under contract through 2012. Wayne Weaver couldn't afford to can Del Rio if he wanted to.
Click to expand...

Perhaps, but, Del Rio seems to always get his teams rolling once the season starts. They're really not a better team than we are. Heck, the NFL Network guys even said we've spent a ton of more money on our team. They stumbled out the gate again this year. And yet, there's Jacksonville, in the mix as usual.
 
I have to go with Herv.. how many times do we hear.. "this is the biggest game in franchise history " or" this game will show what we are made of" .. I am not bashing anyone, but we are what we are 7-7 and an inconsistent team still,


it kinda reminds me of someone coming up and saying that I am racist and I say.. " no, I am not not, I have 2 black friends"


what I am getting at is, I wonder if fans of NE or SD or whoever continually view games as the biggest in franchise history?. Texans seem to do it a lot
I tend to lean on that if the fans are wondering what team will show up on Sunday just means it is still an inconsistent team :shades:
 
houstonspartan said:
Uh, guess why they predicted us at 11 games? Because we are TALENTED. You don't seem to think so, but trust, me, we are.

Look, you keep your low standards and acceptance of shitty football. The rest of us like to win, and we think four years is enough.
Click to expand...

Enough for what? We were one of the worst teams in football four years ago. There is no magic solution to turn a turd into gold. It takes years to rebuild and we are moving along towards that. to suggest that I don't want this team to succeed is freaking rediculous!
 
Wolf said:
I have to go with Herv.. how many times do we hear.. "this is the biggest game in franchise history " or" this game will show what we are made of" .. I am not bashing anyone, but we are what we are 7-7 and an inconsistent team still,


it kinda reminds me of someone coming up and saying that I am racist and I say.. " no, I am not not, I have 2 black friends"


what I am getting at is, I wonder if fans of NE or SD or whoever continually view games as the biggest in franchise history?. Texans seem to do it a lot
I tend to lean on that if the fans are wondering what team will show up on Sunday just means it is still an inconsistent team :shades:
Click to expand...


I doubt NE or SD have said that in a while, but we are the newest expansion franchise in the league therfore we have a lot of milestones ahead of us. We have had more "biggest games" in the last three years than ever before and all of that without regressing. Always moving forward!
 
euro-Texan said:
Enough for what? We were one of the worst teams in football four years ago. There is no magic solution to turn a turd into gold. It takes years to rebuild and we are moving along towards that. to suggest that I don't want this team to succeed is freaking rediculous!
Click to expand...

while I agree it takes some time, but we have seen MANY teams rise and fall within our 8 years of football..(yes I am getting impatient, esp in the free agency period)
 
Wolf said:
while I agree it takes some time, but we have seen MANY teams rise and fall within our 8 years of football..(yes I am getting impatient, esp in the free agency period)
Click to expand...

We were a train wreck with nothing going for us minus AJ. we have consistantly improved our team. MANY other teams had more puzzle peices than we were given when Kubiak took over.
 
euro-Texan said:
Enough for what? We were one of the worst teams in football four years ago. There is no magic solution to turn a turd into gold. It takes years to rebuild and we are moving along towards that. to suggest that I don't want this team to succeed is freaking rediculous!
Click to expand...

I think you're comfortable with where we are right now. 8-8 is fine with you.

Have you taken a look at Sean Payton's record? He was hired at the same time as Kubiak. His team went undefeated until last week.

Look at Miami's coach, Tony Sporano. He took over a bad 1-15 team, totally overhauled it, and went 11-5 his first year. In his second year, so far, he is 7-7.

7-7 in a coach's second year is acceptable.
7-7 in a coach's fourth year is failure.
 
houstonspartan said:
I think you're comfortable with where we are right now. 8-8 is fine with you.

Have you taken a look at Sean Payton's record? He was hired at the same time as Kubiak. His team went undefeated until last week.

Look at Miami's coach, Tony Sporano. He took over a bad 1-15 team, totally overhauled it, and went 11-5 his first year. In his second year, so far, he is 7-7.

7-7 in a coach's second year is acceptable.
7-7 in a coach's fourth year is failure.
Click to expand...

Check out Sporano tomorrow after his teams loss and you will see it was all flash in the pan wins with the wildcat (see run and shoot) it's been figuered out! what's left? That's what you want? Maybe we could try the statue of liberty...
 
houstonspartan said:
And yet, there's Jacksonville, in the mix as usual.
Click to expand...
That's true. And how many Jags could play for the Texans? MJD and Mathis? Del Rio gets more out of less. I still can't stand the guy.
euro-Texan said:
Last year at this time the biggest game in our history was keeping the Bears out of the playoffs. and we did!
Click to expand...
I was more impressed by the win over Jacksonville in 2004, that knocked the Jags out of the playoffs. It's sad that either would be considered our biggest win.
 
Hmm .... I still have my season prediction of 9-7 on the line tomorrow - Will the Texans rise to the occasion? :thinking:
 
Lucky said:
That's true. And how many Jags could play for the Texans? MJD and Mathis? Del Rio gets more out of less. I still can't stand the guy.

I was more impressed by the win over Jacksonville in 2004, that knocked the Jags out of the playoffs. It's sad that either would be considered our biggest win.
Click to expand...

Agreed! I'm just saying that having more "biggest games" is a good thing. I don't think we have a serious contendor line-up yet. We're closer than ever, but we still have holes and to say we should cash out and change directions is idiotic.
 
Wow it was not my intention to start another thread to continue the pissing match between the settlers and the soapers. We all know where we stand it is well documented. I just wanted to disscuss the importance of this game in relation to Kubiaks future as our HC.

Whether Kubiak comes back or not is not our choice. And nothing we say is going to change that fact or anyone on this boards mind. WE ALL SHOULD KNOW THAT BY NOW. However this game could have a huge impact on that decision. That is why it is such an important game. Does it mean we are ready and have taken the next step if we win? Hell no!!! But dam sure should show whether or not Kubiak is capable of being the right coach to take this team towards that next step. At least in McNairs mind for one more week.

As long as we have even a minute chance of making the playoffs Kubiak should be under the microscope. This is a very important (winnable) game with playoff implacations. This could be Kubiaks last chance to shine and show everyone that he is the man.

I think he is going to fail misserably but I hope I am wrong. If he shows good in this game I will give him credit. Not because I want to but because I have no choice. And if he continues that good showing into next week then I will be OK with him coming back next year. Not thrilled but willing to except he has done what he needed to and except that I have no choice in the matter.

Without arguing over whether or not he should or shouldnt go (which we have no control over) can we debate the importance of this game? :rant:
 
euro-Texan said:
hahaha. I'm saying a three point loss to a team you should have beat, but lost too because your kicker can't do his job is NOT as bad a 30 point loss to a team that dominates you on every side of the ball.
Click to expand...

EVERY team that doesn't meet its goals has a "CouldaWouldaShoulda" story!
You can NOT let that handcuff you from BECOMING successful. Those teams
SET high standards hand HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR NOT REACHING
THEM!
 
DexmanC said:
EVERY team that doesn't meet its goals has a "CouldaWouldaShoulda" story!
You can NOT let that handcuff you from BECOMING successful. Those teams
SET high standards hand HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR NOT REACHING
THEM!
Click to expand...

Agreed the ones accountable are the Browns and Slatton. Fire 'em
 
Wolf said:
I have to go with Herv.. how many times do we hear.. "this is the biggest game in franchise history " or" this game will show what we are made of" .. I am not bashing anyone, but we are what we are 7-7 and an inconsistent team still,


it kinda reminds me of someone coming up and saying that I am racist and I say.. " no, I am not not, I have 2 black friends"


what I am getting at is, I wonder if fans of NE or SD or whoever continually view games as the biggest in franchise history?. Texans seem to do it a lot
I tend to lean on that if the fans are wondering what team will show up on Sunday just means it is still an inconsistent team :shades:
Click to expand...

It's an amazing line by the Texans' Marketing Department. It hypes up
games every other franchise in the league sees as important, but they
are ALL important. This keeps excitement for a 3-7, 7-7, 6-8, 1-14 team
sky high. It's all about selling those seats, baby!

It's just that if Bob keeps this up, and doesn't start delivering winning
seasons, he will lose credibility just like Uncle Drayton has. Les Alexander's
club doesn't overhype itself, and although they are a middle-of-the-road
basketball team, Toyota Center stays full. They play hard EVERY night,
which is more than we can say about the Astros OR Texans.
 
Wolf said:
I have to go with Herv.. how many times do we hear.. "this is the biggest game in franchise history " or" this game will show what we are made of" .. I am not bashing anyone, but we are what we are 7-7 and an inconsistent team still,


it kinda reminds me of someone coming up and saying that I am racist and I say.. " no, I am not not, I have 2 black friends"


what I am getting at is, I wonder if fans of NE or SD or whoever continually view games as the biggest in franchise history?. Texans seem to do it a lot
I tend to lean on that if the fans are wondering what team will show up on Sunday just means it is still an inconsistent team :shades:
Click to expand...


QFT. Heck, some are still pointing to our FIRST game.......19-10........ as the biggest game. But it seems that the Texans office may have been playing the BIGGEST GAME OF ALL........all along............on the fans................
 
devo-x said:
Hmm .... I still have my season prediction of 9-7 on the line tomorrow - Will the Texans rise to the occasion? :thinking:
Click to expand...
I think I went with 10 wins. Reality is we aren't as good as everyone HOPED. Still moving forward though. 9-7 is fine by me. Accept the texans for what they are. They aren't over acheivers. Blame can be spread all around. I hope we play 4 qtrs.
 
ATXtexanfan said:
I think I went with 10 wins. Reality is we aren't as good as everyone HOPED. Still moving forward though. 9-7 is fine by me. Accept the texans for what they are. They aren't over acheivers. Blame can be spread all around. I hope we play 4 qtrs.
Click to expand...

This what we have all hoped for all season..........you'd think that this rivals the pursuit of the HOLY GRAIL.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top