This game (Miami) will show what this team and coach is made of.

[Lucky]

could he play guard?
Just askin' because I never heard of the guy.

Bridges has played guard most of his NFL career. The type of versatile O-lineman most good teams keep on their roster, just in case.

The running attack should not have been so reliant on one lineman, or there should have been an adequate backup. It has to be one or the other. You can't have the Kubiak Teflon Cake & eat it, too.

 

[vtech9]

Wait...
WHAT?!
I'll read the rest of your post in a moment. I can't get past this statement. You don't think losing a pro-bowl quality TE matters in a pass-happy offense. He had 40 catches when he went down. He's still third on the team in receiving yds and fourth in catches and he hasn't played in two months. You don't think losing that level of production matters...????

You cannot be serious.

when they score 27 points in a half without him, they have proven that they can do it without him. Don't get me wrong, I think they would be a much better team with him, but him being out isn't the reason they don't score in the 2nd half of todays game, nor the reason they gave up 20 unanswered points in the 2nd half.

 

[euro-Texan]

I would rather see the Texans play the same way in the 2nd half as they did in the 1st. I want to see them play a complete game. I want to see them finish a game in dominant fashion, and quit letting teams back into a game they never should have been in.

But three hours ago before kick off would you have been happy with a 27-20 win on the road?

 

[vtech9]

But three hours ago before kick off would you have been happy with a 27-20 win on the road?

I'm happy with the win. I'm disappointed with the way they finished it.

 

[New_Texans]

when they score 27 points in a half without him, they have proven that they can do it without him. Don't get me wrong, I think they would be a much better team with him, but him being out isn't the reason they don't score in the 2nd half of todays game, nor the reason they gave up 20 unanswered points in the 2nd half.

It probably does, I mean, if OD were there teams wouldnt be able to slide their D over to AJ's side and if he were there thats just another weapon the texans would have to move the ball. One of the problems i see is the fact that we can't seem to get the simple 3rd down conversions (when its 3 and modest) because David Anderson isnt the answer.

 

[euro-Texan]

I think we tied Miami's hands with our 1st half performance and forced them to a position that we could control. We just didn't control them very well. But at the end of the game we won! Now on to week 17 and a chance for a playoff birth.

 

[euro-Texan]

It probably does, I mean, if OD were there teams wouldnt be able to slide their D over to AJ's side and if he were there thats just another weapon the texans would have to move the ball. One of the problems i see is the fact that we can't seem to get the simple 3rd down conversions (when its 3 and modest) because David Anderson isnt the answer.

Anderson had a pretty clutch 3rd down catch.

 

[Lucky]

You don't think losing a pro-bowl quality TE matters in a pass-happy offense.

I wouldn't say that Daniels wasn't missed. He's an outstanding receiving TE. But, the Texans averaged 282 yards passing in the games Daniels played. 300 yards per game in those that he missed. The Texans passing game adjusted.

The running attack and bone-headed decisions by Kubiak are what will keep the Texans out of the postseason.

 

[ATXtexanfan]

I would rather see the Texans play the same way in the 2nd half as they did in the 1st. I want to see them play a complete game. I want to see them finish a game in dominant fashion, and quit letting teams back into a game they never should have been in.

Would you rather them lose them all? Not being an ass but a win is a win. Anything less means your not really a fan.

 

[J_R]

That's what worries me about this team if they God willing make the playoffs. You are facing top notch teams where you're gonna be forced to play 60 minutes. Where you may be up 17 at one point but with the relaxed attitude or the attitude we got this game already, the good teams are going to come back on you. Does this team know how to play 60 minutes? They showed me once this season that they know how to. Again, sorta because they were forced to by the opposing team(Cincy) but I'm not exactly sure.

 

[Silver Oak]

no....this after a 27-0 halftime lead that ended 27-20. The Texans didn't show up in the 2nd half. By my count, there are only two games this season that the Texans were actually beaten. The rest of them, the Texans beat themselves. This was almost another one.

NE Patriots scored 28 points in the first half, then scored only once the rest of the way.

By your logic, they suck.

 

[vtech9]

Would you rather them lose them all? Not being an ass but a win is a win. Anything less means your not really a fan.

Don't be stupid. I don't want the Texans to lose any of them, and if they would come out in the 2nd half and put teams away after getting up at halftime, they would probably already have a playoff spot locked up.

A 21-0 halftime lead @ Indy should have been a win as well, but the Texans didn't come out to play in the 2nd half, and therefore, lost.

 

[ATXtexanfan]

Don't be stupid. I don't want the Texans to lose any of them, and if they would come out in the 2nd half and put teams away after getting up at halftime, they would probably already have a playoff spot locked up.

A 21-0 halftime lead @ Indy should have been a win as well, but the Texans didn't come out to play in the 2nd half, and therefore, lost.

But that's how these texans roll. No one can figure it out. Let it be. Hopefully we go up 28-0 next week against the pats. Not doubting your fanhood but the texans are what they are.

 

[vtech9]

That's what worries me about this team if they God willing make the playoffs. You are facing top notch teams where you're gonna be forced to play 60 minutes. Where you may be up 17 at one point but with the relaxed attitude or the attitude we got this game already, the good teams are going to come back on you. Does this team know how to play 60 minutes? They showed me once this season that they know how to. Again, sorta because they were forced to by the opposing team(Cincy) but I'm not exactly sure.

exactly

 

[thunderkyss]

when they score 27 points in a half without him, they have proven that they can do it without him. Don't get me wrong, I think they would be a much better team with him, but him being out isn't the reason they don't score in the 2nd half of todays game, nor the reason they gave up 20 unanswered points in the 2nd half.

I agree with you, that it's pathetic that we didn't score a point in the second half.

I won't put blame on the defense though. They played a good game, from start to finish. After Matt Schaub threw the INT on our first possession of the second half, The Dolphins went 3 & out, losing 3 yards on that drive.

They then forced 2 punts on two other possessions, So the Dolphins only scored on 3 of 6 possessions of the second half. I do believe we'd have played even better, had the offense could have stayed on the field a little more.

As far as this being the norm for the Texans, that just isn't true. Offense only playing one half of football yes, but it hasn't always been the first half. This year, a bigger problem had been Matt Schaub (& the offense) starting slow.

The last few games, it has been the first half, but hopefully that means they figured out the slow start thing, & can move on to working on the second half thing.

But a first possession INT, nobodies fault, then the fumble that wasn't called a fumble, and the INT that wasn't called an INT ( I know he was out of bounds, but he shouldn't have thrown that ball. If that was AJ, maybe, but what has Jacoby done to warrant that throw? He was covered). I don't have a problem with Kubiak calling off the dogs.....

That said, I think Miami stepped it up big time on defense in the second half. Even though we had a good day running, & Arian Foster's 1st down pick-up on the final drive was huge, We know that we can't run the ball when we have to.

Speaking of which, I want to give Kudos to the OL, just like today, they've been playing well enough to run the ball on the teams we've played over the last 5 weeks. We just didn't have a running back, or for whatever reason Kubiak wouldn't play Moats, who could take advantage of it.

 

[edo783]

If we manage to back into the play offs, it will likely be a one and out. However, that is OK. We are a young team learning how/what it takes to win in the NFL. Would I like them to go further, dang right I would, but I doubt they can/will....... this year. IIRC, most of the people on this board were talking at the start of the season "Man, I hope we are still talking about games that have meaning at the end of December/Jan". Guess what, we are talking about games that matter to the Texans and we have possibilities, just sit back and enjoy it and don't let your ego or what ever it is rob you of the enjoyment, just because you choose to focus on the negative rather than the positives of the season.

 

[thunderkyss]

Don't be stupid. I don't want the Texans to lose any of them, and if they would come out in the 2nd half and put teams away after getting up at halftime, they would probably already have a playoff spot locked up.

A 21-0 halftime lead @ Indy should have been a win as well, but the Texans didn't come out to play in the 2nd half, and therefore, lost.

Is that the game we fumbled the ball away at the end of the half?

Then threw an pic 6 on our first second half possession?

& I'm sure there was another player-made uh-oh in that second half.

it's not that they aren't coming out to play, but it's like they get "big headed" & start screwing up.

 

[thunderkyss]

If we manage to back into the play offs, it will likely be a one and out.

Who knows how this group of guys would handle that situation. Who'da thunk the Cardinals would make it to the Super Bowl last year? They didn't have a run game, & their defense was more suspect than ours.

Same thing with the Giants the year before. They didn't start pressuring the QB with their front four, until the play-offs started.

As long as they don't look like they don't belong, I'll be happy.

But first things first.

 

[OzzO]

NE Patriots scored 28 points in the first half, then scored only once the rest of the way.

By your logic, they suck.

But the Pats won by 28 points, 35-7 - stayed on the Jags throat defensively.

Anyway, nothing new - play for a half and if your ahead, hope it's enough. If your behind, hopefully the Texans didn't spot the opposing team too many points. Glad for the win, not so with the "play 60".

 

[TimeKiller]

It showed exactly what this team is made of. On one side it's a monster. Unstoppable. Championship caliber. On the other side it's a ball of fluff. Cute little kittens. Sunshine and rainbows and feeling good about anything.

Dr. Jekyll
Mr. Hyde

 

[Silver Oak]

only thing I see is a big freaking "W" in the Win-Loss column. All this talk about halves played/not-played is a useless exercise.

Could it have been prettier...yes. Yet I will take a win on the road against a defending division champion every day of the week.

 

[DexmanC]

I posted at halftime that this team was done scoring for the game, and would
have to outlast their production in the first half. The next real good team
we face will make us pay for it. Good win today, but our humiliation is looming.

 

[Wolf]

geeze, even the players are saying it now.

“We labeled this game as the biggest game of the franchise’s history,” Texans tackle Duane Brown(notes) said. “We took the wind out of them quick.”

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap;_ylt=AhSZEBULhAib4TOx1X6DQ.I5nYcB?gid=20091227015

 

[The Third Man]

I'm happy with the win. I'm disappointed with the way they finished it.

You can complain about style points, but I am just happy they went on the road and won and are still in the playoffs hunt.

 

[euro-Texan]

You can complain about style points, but I am just happy they went on the road and won and are still in the playoffs hunt.

Philly looked worse than us

 

[utahmark]

Don't be stupid. I don't want the Texans to lose any of them, and if they would come out in the 2nd half and put teams away after getting up at halftime, they would probably already have a playoff spot locked up.

A 21-0 halftime lead @ Indy should have been a win as well, but the Texans didn't come out to play in the 2nd half, and therefore, lost.

when did we have a 21-0 halftime lead at indy?

 

[houstonspartan]

it showed exactly what this team is made of. On one side it's a monster. Unstoppable. Championship caliber. On the other side it's a ball of fluff. Cute little kittens. Sunshine and rainbows and feeling good about anything.

Dr. Jekyll
mr. Hyde

lmao!

 

[Goatcheese]

It showed exactly what this team is made of. On one side it's a monster. Unstoppable. Championship caliber. On the other side it's a ball of fluff. Cute little kittens. Sunshine and rainbows and feeling good about anything.

Dr. Jekyll
Mr. Hyde

They just need some confidence. They are an emotional team. Completely unstoppable when they're pumped up, and push overs when the momentum turns against them.

 

[houstonspartan]

They just need some confidence. They are an emotional team. Completely unstoppable when they're pumped up, and push overs when the momentum turns against them.

Exactly. I'm tired of people saying "our team isn't as talented as we think it is."

Bullshit. Look at the first half of today's game, and look at the first half of the second Indy game.

We got the talent.
The coaching is another story...

 

[thunderkyss]

Exactly. I'm tired of people saying "our team isn't as talented as we think it is."

Bullshit. Look at the first half of today's game, and look at the first half of the second Indy game.

We got the talent.
The coaching is another story...

It's that same talent that fumbles the ball away, & throw un-forced interceptions. I could understand it if we weren't providing a pocket for Schaub, but the protection has been very, very good & he still throws a ball or two that he should know better. You can watch him in the first half of this game, or the 3rd Qtr of that game, & you know he knows better, but he does it anyway.

& the fumbling isn't when they are trying to break a tackle at the LOS, it's after a 10-15 yard gain, & they are in the open field, thinking about a touchdown, or the highlights, or the jumbo-tron, or the big shoe contract they're going to land.

I don't know what Kubiak could've done differently. Experience tells him when it rains, it pours in Houston. It's no surprise to me, that he gets conservative at the first sight of trouble.

How are you going to bench your stars? Your supposed leaders, when he's trying to empower them? You can't bench Schaub... & he tried his darnedest not to bench Slaton. But he went to Moats... fumble. He went to Chris Brown..... fumble. He went to Arian Foster... fumble.

I honestly don't see how you're supposed to blame the coach.

Wasn't a popular decision to end the game the way we did, but playing the way we did the first half could have very easily cost us the game....... see the second Colts game.

 

[DexmanC]

It's time this team starts measuring itself by RESULTS. Excuses don't work
when it comes to improvement. RESULTS are the benchmark for success.
You need empirical data for Mr. Kubiak?

Last 55 games Gary Kubiak has coached (INCLUDING Sunday)
2nd half of '06 season: 4-4
ENTIRE 2007 season : 8-8
ENTIRE 2008 season : 8-8
CURRENT 2009 season: 8-7

Total Record: 28-27

Is this good enough? Is being 8-7 o.k.? Is this the standard of excellence
we have for this team? Is this the bar they've set for themselves? There
are too many other teams that have changed coaches, and have had greater
success in ONE season, than Kubiak has done in FOUR. This includes
rookie head coach Rex Ryan, who destroyed Kubiak head-to-head.

 

[utahmark]

If we manage to back into the play offs, it will likely be a one and out. However, that is OK. We are a young team learning how/what it takes to win in the NFL. Would I like them to go further, dang right I would, but I doubt they can/will....... this year. IIRC, most of the people on this board were talking at the start of the season "Man, I hope we are still talking about games that have meaning at the end of December/Jan". Guess what, we are talking about games that matter to the Texans and we have possibilities, just sit back and enjoy it and don't let your ego or what ever it is rob you of the enjoyment, just because you choose to focus on the negative rather than the positives of the season.

we'll probably be playing cincy. weve already beaten them once.

 

[thunderkyss]

There
are too many other teams that have changed coaches, and have had greater
success in ONE season, than Kubiak has done in FOUR. This includes
rookie head coach Rex Ryan, who destroyed Kubiak head-to-head.

Are the Jets better than 8-7?

I thought the Jets were 9-7 last year. Is going 9-7 in 2009 an improvement? If they go 8-8, would that be a worse team than last years team?

 

[edo783]

we'll probably be playing cincy. weve already beaten them once.

True, but just speaking odds, it is unlikely at the play off level to beat the same team twice. Could we..... sure we could, but would you bet your mortgage money we will?

 

[DexmanC]

Are the Jets better than 8-7?

I thought the Jets were 9-7 last year. Is going 9-7 in 2009 an improvement? If they go 8-8, would that be a worse team than last years team?

The Jets, with a rookie head coach, and a rookie quarterback, control
THEIR OWN DESTINY in Week 17, towards making the playoffs. In ONE
SEASON, Rex Ryan has bested Kubiak with this feat. You can't deny Kubiak
could go .500 four years in a row, and still keep his job had he been coaching
in New York.

 

[thunderkyss]

The Jets, with a rookie head coach, and a rookie quarterback, control
THEIR OWN DESTINY in Week 17, towards making the playoffs. In ONE
SEASON, Rex Ryan has bested Kubiak with this feat. You can't deny Kubiak
could go .500 four years in a row, and still keep his job had he been coaching
in New York.

Rex Ryan took over a 9-7 team & went 9-7 (possibly).... & you think that is a big improvement?


Gary Kubiak took a 2-14 team & went 6-10, 8-8, 8-8, & 9-7 (possibly) & you think that is regression.

I will spend the rest of my time pointing out how much sense your post don't make.

The Jets control their destiny today, because Baltimore lost last week. Has nothing to do with how good the New York Jets (same possible 9-7 W-L record as the lowly Texans) played. Had the Jets lost the last 2 weeks, it would be the Texans who control their own destiny, wtf does that have to do with what Kubiak has/has not done?

The Jets could have sewn up the division, weeks ago, but they choked. Rex Ryan didn't have his team prepared for 7 games (same as Kubiak up to this point) prior to this week, & he's done an outstanding job turning a 9-7 team into a possible 9-7 team.

Are you even listening to your own arguments?

 

[DexmanC]

Rex Ryan took over a 9-7 team & went 9-7 (possibly).... & you think that is a big improvement?


Gary Kubiak took a 2-14 team & went 6-10, 8-8, 8-8, & 9-7 (possibly) & you think that is regression.

I will spend the rest of my time pointing out how much sense your post don't make.

The Jets control their destiny today, because Baltimore lost last week. Has nothing to do with how good the New York Jets (same possible 9-7 W-L record as the lowly Texans) played. Had the Jets lost the last 2 weeks, it would be the Texans who control their own destiny, wtf does that have to do with what Kubiak has/has not done?

The Jets could have sewn up the division, weeks ago, but they choked. Rex Ryan didn't have his team prepared for 7 games (same as Kubiak up to this point) prior to this week, & he's done an outstanding job turning a 9-7 team into a possible 9-7 team.

Are you even listening to your own arguments?

Basically, you've got a fourth year coach (Kubiak) making the same
mistakes a rookie head coach (Ryan) is making. What is your argument?
Ryan is making rookie mistakes? Yeah. He's a ROOKIE.

When is Kubiak going to get his squad to focus for 60 FREAKING MINUTES!?

Does it take a 5th year to learn how to do that?

 

[TheRealJoker]

Rex Ryan took over a 9-7 team & went 9-7 (possibly).... & you think that is a big improvement?


Gary Kubiak took a 2-14 team & went 6-10, 8-8, 8-8, & 9-7 (possibly) & you think that is regression.

I will spend the rest of my time pointing out how much sense your post don't make.

The Jets control their destiny today, because Baltimore lost last week. Has nothing to do with how good the New York Jets (same possible 9-7 W-L record as the lowly Texans) played. Had the Jets lost the last 2 weeks, it would be the Texans who control their own destiny, wtf does that have to do with what Kubiak has/has not done?

The Jets could have sewn up the division, weeks ago, but they choked. Rex Ryan didn't have his team prepared for 7 games (same as Kubiak up to this point) prior to this week, & he's done an outstanding job turning a 9-7 team into a possible 9-7 team.

Are you even listening to your own arguments?

Actually, the Jets control their own destiny because they beat down the Texans in Reliant Stadium on opening day. A rookie HC and rookie QB came into town and beat the Texans more decisively than any other team has this season. Had Kubiak had his team ready to play (you think he could've had a leg up on the rookie HC in that regard...) then we would be in control of our own destiny right now

 

[Joe Texan]

Wow it was not my intention to start another thread to continue the pissing match between the settlers and the soapers. We all know where we stand it is well documented. I just wanted to disscuss the importance of this game in relation to Kubiaks future as our HC.

Whether Kubiak comes back or not is not our choice. And nothing we say is going to change that fact or anyone on this boards mind. WE ALL SHOULD KNOW THAT BY NOW. However this game could have a huge impact on that decision. That is why it is such an important game. Does it mean we are ready and have taken the next step if we win? Hell no!!! But dam sure should show whether or not Kubiak is capable of being the right coach to take this team towards that next step. At least in McNairs mind for one more week.

As long as we have even a minute chance of making the playoffs Kubiak should be under the microscope. This is a very important (winnable) game with playoff implacations. This could be Kubiaks last chance to shine and show everyone that he is the man.

I think he is going to fail misserably but I hope I am wrong. If he shows good in this game I will give him credit. Not because I want to but because I have no choice. And if he continues that good showing into next week then I will be OK with him coming back next year. Not thrilled but willing to except he has done what he needed to and except that I have no choice in the matter.

Without arguing over whether or not he should or shouldnt go (which we have no control over) can we debate the importance of this game?

Mussop I consider this thread as stand up as possible you came out and stated your case and it was well taken by me. Now with the outcome I will state that the second half was a miserable mirror image of the suck ass coaching from a young coach with no experience. I am not on the soap bandwagon but I will admit the coach had some mistakes and miscues in this game and he played not to lose (I hate this ) instead of blow the fish out of the water. We got Andre and we should have smoked the Dolphins but we almost lost to the stinking mamals. The Next Game is the true test of Kubiak can he man up and play a whole game and defeat former Superbowlers or does he tuck tails and run to the showers. LETS GO TEXANS I can assure you Soap Droppers, Band Wagoners, And Die Hards alike will be at Reliant with 200% addrenilin and screaming for a Texan Win, COach do your part and Win the Stinking Game.

 

[vtech9]

Mussop I consider this thread as stand up as possible you came out and stated your case and it was well taken by me. Now with the outcome I will state that the second half was a miserable mirror image of the suck ass coaching from a young coach with no experience. I am not on the soap bandwagon but I will admit the coach had some mistakes and miscues in this game and he played not to lose (I hate this ) instead of blow the fish out of the water. We got Andre and we should have smoked the Dolphins but we almost lost to the stinking mamals. The Next Game is the true test of Kubiak can he man up and play a whole game and defeat former Superbowlers or does he tuck tails and run to the showers. LETS GO TEXANS I can assure you Soap Droppers, Band Wagoners, And Die Hards alike will be at Reliant with 200% addrenilin and screaming for a Texan Win, COach do your part and Win the Stinking Game.

That's the part that bothers me the most. We get up big and then play not to lose. The Defense played as well as they could in the 2nd half, but instead of calling the defensive plays that got them the big lead, the DC went to soft zones, and let the 'phins march down the field using runs and short passes. If the tripping penalty wasn't called, I think the Texans would have lost.

If any of you remember the Oilers playoff game against the Bills, you might just understand my disgust over this kind of play. If you don't know which Oilers game I'm talking about, you probably won't understand.

 

[DexmanC]

Mussop I consider this thread as stand up as possible you came out and stated your case and it was well taken by me. Now with the outcome I will state that the second half was a miserable mirror image of the suck ass coaching from a young coach with no experience. I am not on the soap bandwagon but I will admit the coach had some mistakes and miscues in this game and he played not to lose (I hate this ) instead of blow the fish out of the water. We got Andre and we should have smoked the Dolphins but we almost lost to the stinking mamals. The Next Game is the true test of Kubiak can he man up and play a whole game and defeat former Superbowlers or does he tuck tails and run to the showers. LETS GO TEXANS I can assure you Soap Droppers, Band Wagoners, And Die Hards alike will be at Reliant with 200% addrenilin and screaming for a Texan Win, COach do your part and Win the Stinking Game.

If you remember the game we came back from 14-0 against the Panthers,
and were blowing them off their own field, Andre Johnson strained his PCL
catching a ball over-the-middle early in the 4th quarter. We lost Dre for
7 games or so that season. Since then, I don't remember us attacking
aggressively when we're up big on folks. Maybe Kube's afraid of getting
guys hurt for blowing them the hell out.

The problem with that tactic is, we open ourselves up to getting beat.

 

[DerekLee1]

Rex Ryan took over a 9-7 team & went 9-7 (possibly).... & you think that is a big improvement?


Gary Kubiak took a 2-14 team & went 6-10, 8-8, 8-8, & 9-7 (possibly) & you think that is regression.

I will spend the rest of my time pointing out how much sense your post don't make.

The Jets control their destiny today, because Baltimore lost last week. Has nothing to do with how good the New York Jets (same possible 9-7 W-L record as the lowly Texans) played. Had the Jets lost the last 2 weeks, it would be the Texans who control their own destiny, wtf does that have to do with what Kubiak has/has not done?

The Jets could have sewn up the division, weeks ago, but they choked. Rex Ryan didn't have his team prepared for 7 games (same as Kubiak up to this point) prior to this week, & he's done an outstanding job turning a 9-7 team into a possible 9-7 team.

Are you even listening to your own arguments?

I see the 6-10 and first 8-8 season as over-achieving. I'll cut him some slack this year because of the injuries (OD and the OL hurt more than anyone wants to admit). Kubiak and Smith have built this team as an organization that can compete annually, not as a one-hit wonder. For that, I'll give them at least one more year. A game out of playoff contention? Half the league would give their right nuts for that opportunity.

 

[steelbtexan]

If you remember the game we came back from 14-0 against the Panthers,
and were blowing them off their own field, Andre Johnson strained his PCL
catching a ball over-the-middle early in the 4th quarter. We lost Dre for
7 games or so that season. Since then, I don't remember us attacking
aggressively when we're up big on folks. Maybe Kube's afraid of getting
guys hurt for blowing them the hell out.

The problem with that tactic is, we open ourselves up to getting beat.

It was after the Rosencopter game that Kubes adopted this philosopy.

That play changed Kubes and took away what made him special. (agressiveness) IMHO

 

[houstonspartan]

Actually, the Jets control their own destiny because they beat down the Texans in Reliant Stadium on opening day. A rookie HC and rookie QB came into town and beat the Texans more decisively than any other team has this season. Had Kubiak had his team ready to play (you think he could've had a leg up on the rookie HC in that regard...) then we would be in control of our own destiny right now

Yep. It's really amazing how every single game can count in the NFL. If it comes down to us and the Jets, we are so screwed it's not even funny.

 

[mussop]

Mussop I consider this thread as stand up as possible you came out and stated your case and it was well taken by me. Now with the outcome I will state that the second half was a miserable mirror image of the suck ass coaching from a young coach with no experience. I am not on the soap bandwagon but I will admit the coach had some mistakes and miscues in this game and he played not to lose (I hate this ) instead of blow the fish out of the water. We got Andre and we should have smoked the Dolphins but we almost lost to the stinking mamals. The Next Game is the true test of Kubiak can he man up and play a whole game and defeat former Superbowlers or does he tuck tails and run to the showers. LETS GO TEXANS I can assure you Soap Droppers, Band Wagoners, And Die Hards alike will be at Reliant with 200% addrenilin and screaming for a Texan Win, COach do your part and Win the Stinking Game.

 

[thunderkyss]

Actually, the Jets control their own destiny because they beat down the Texans in Reliant Stadium on opening day. A rookie HC and rookie QB came into town and beat the Texans more decisively than any other team has this season. Had Kubiak had his team ready to play (you think he could've had a leg up on the rookie HC in that regard...) then we would be in control of our own destiny right now

If Baltimore won last week, the Jets wouldn't be in control of anything. Had the Colts not rested their starters with 20 minutes left to play... they wouldn't be in control of anything.

If W-L is the end-all-be-all of a team, the 2008 9-7 Jets were a better team than the 2008 8-8 Texans, & Texans fans should have known we could have lost that game anyway.

That was probably the best defensive team (Titans maybe) We've played all year. A seasoned secondary, a LB core that thought they were better without Jonathan Vilma, and a pretty nice DL. Rookie head coach, yada, yada, yada, but that team has been together for a long time. & Rex Ryan is probably the most creative coordinator to pressure the QB, now that Jim Johnson is gone (RIP).

Our young defense (Most players had been here less than 3 years. Antonio Smith, Glover Quin, Brian Cushing... First year. Brian Cushing & Dunta missed trainging camp, & this was Diles' first real game after season ending injury last year) Held one of the leagues top rushing attacks (inherited by this rookie HC & QB) to something like 70 rushing yards through 3 Qtrs. Thomas Jones had a total of 12 yards to start the 4th Qtr, Leon Washington had 56. Leon Washington had 4 yards total in the 4th Qtr..... Thomas Jones went for 106, but that's a different story. You can't say they weren't prepared when you look at the whole performance.

Then this Rookie HC follows this performance up with a similar performance in New England. Belichick had an extra week to prepare.. but he did no better than Kubiak did... fire them both? 4 time Super Bowl winner my ass.

They did the same thing in Week 3. Jeff Fisher had 2 more weeks than Kubiak had, but his team wasn't "prepared" either. So I guess Fisher doesn't deserve to be a head coach either? Longest tenured HC & get's punk'd by a rookie HC & QB.

 

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Since then, I don't remember us attacking
aggressively when we're up big on folks. Maybe Kube's afraid of getting
guys hurt for blowing them the hell out.

The play calling was just as aggressive our first two possesions of the 3rd Qtr. Schaub threw an INT in the first one, after 3 or 4 snaps I believe, & Chris Brown Fumbled on a big gain...

Then Kubiak called off the dogs.

But it wasn't because of a big lead.

Think about the last time we ran a 2 minute offense... The play calling is just as aggressive as we've ever been. But the players do something bone-headed.