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The Nnamdi Asomugha Thread

NitroGSXR said:
FIFY.

Its all about the dollars. Nnamdi's got a kickass agent. Look at what he was able to do for Dunta Robinson.
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Which is why I proposed that he's using a "big threat" in the Jets as a way to get the Texans to move from 15 mil a year to, say, 17 a year or something.
 
Nnamdi is leveraging the Texans offer, squeezing it higher, to maximize his payout from either the Jets (ring) or 49ers (home).

It's just business.
 
The $$$ ASO demands will put us in cap hell for years to come. We really need to aquire a GOOD CB and a GOOD safety as opposed to foresaking the rest of our teams future for one player an injury away from dooming this team for years and years to come.
 
It has taken years for McNair to get out of several bad contracts after hiring the capologist from NFL. He has said he would not do anything crazy. This could mean that he has ok'd a certain amount for ASO (or any other FA) but after being used in past to bid up money for players going elsewhere has now learned lesson. "Nnamdi, we are going to make you incredibly richer & here is our team, our coaches and plan for the playoffs. SHop around but by Friday it is us or the highway. Don't go get a better offer and come back cause those days are over."

Texans could have held up on announcing a done deal to put pressure on another teams to cut players.
 
euro-Texan said:
The $$$ ASO demands will put us in cap hell for years to come. We really need to aquire a GOOD CB and a GOOD safety as opposed to foresaking the rest of our teams future for one player an injury away from dooming this team for years and years to come.
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I'm beginning to agree. Let's move on texans. I'm ok with Joseph or Cromartie and safety like Daniel Manning who we have apparently shown interest in. Good with me.

Aso, keep your feet looking clean and pristine if you go to New York.
 
badboy said:
It has taken years for McNair to get out of several bad contracts after hiring the capologist from NFL. He has said he would not do anything crazy. This could mean that he has ok'd a certain amount for ASO (or any other FA) but after being used in past to bid up money for players going elsewhere has now learned lesson. "Nnamdi, we are going to make you incredibly richer & here is our team, our coaches and plan for the playoffs. SHop around but by Friday it is us or the highway. Don't go get a better offer and come back cause those days are over."

Texans could have held up on announcing a done deal to put pressure on another teams to cut players.
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I hope this is what they did-and with Cromartie and Joseph.
It would set us up nicely with out killing us for years to come.

Now who believes that McNair has learned something about football??
 
euro-Texan said:
The $$$ ASO demands will put us in cap hell for years to come. We really need to aquire a GOOD CB and a GOOD safety as opposed to foresaking the rest of our teams future for one player an injury away from dooming this team for years and years to come.
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So using your theory we should not have signed, Ryans, Schaub, AJ, Mario, Wade or Anthony SMith...
 
Ckw said:
I'm beginning to agree. Let's move on texans. I'm ok with Joseph or Cromartie and safety like Daniel Manning who we have apparently shown interest in. Good with me.

Aso, keep your feet looking clean and pristine if you go to New York.
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I agree and think we should make an offer to Cromartie now! I can't imagine he's feeling the love in NY right now
 
euro-Texan said:
The $$$ ASO demands will put us in cap hell for years to come. We really need to aquire a GOOD CB and a GOOD safety as opposed to foresaking the rest of our teams future for one player an injury away from dooming this team for years and years to come.
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The Pencil Neck said:
If we got Joseph and Manning/Landry, I'd be more than satisfied.
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Agreed. I REALLY want Nnamdi but I definitely want us to be smart about it. Adding Joseph at CB and Manning at S would be huge. And if it takes too much for Nnamdi to come here, Joseph and Manning would be less expensive. I'd just hope we can convince these guys to sign with us.
 
euro-Texan said:
The $$$ ASO demands will put us in cap hell for years to come. We really need to aquire a GOOD CB and a GOOD safety as opposed to foresaking the rest of our teams future for one player an injury away from dooming this team for years and years to come.
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Personally I don't care at all for the 2012-13 season. NFL you go by year by year. Aso is so much better than Joseph or Cromartie he will make the entire secondary play better.
 
badboy said:
So using your theory we should not have signed, Ryans, Schaub, AJ, Mario, Wade or Anthony SMith...
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Are any of those players the highest paid for their position? The only one of those players with an incredible contract was AJ and he is without a doubt the best player to ever wear a Texans uni.
 
euro-Texan said:
I agree and think we should make an offer to Cromartie now! I can't imagine he's feeling the love in NY right now
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I don't see this happening because of his rep but overall I think he fits as well as anyone if they don't get Aso. I am convinced Joseph stays with the Bengals.
 
badboy said:
It has taken years for McNair to get out of several bad contracts after hiring the capologist from NFL. He has said he would not do anything crazy. This could mean that he has ok'd a certain amount for ASO (or any other FA) but after being used in past to bid up money for players going elsewhere has now learned lesson. "Nnamdi, we are going to make you incredibly richer & here is our team, our coaches and plan for the playoffs. SHop around but by Friday it is us or the highway. Don't go get a better offer and come back cause those days are over."

Texans could have held up on announcing a done deal to put pressure on another teams to cut players.
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I don't know if the Texans are gonna play hardball like that with a talent like Nnamdi. This guy is everything the team covets. He's arguably the best at a position of dire need, he's a model citizen and the signing would bring the spotlight on Houston. McNair has to be drooling over this. Signing Aso would also fire up the fan base to heights we haven't seen since 2002. We would be bona fide playa's in the NFL world.
:fans:
 
Texas T said:
I hope this is what they did-and with Cromartie and Joseph.
It would set us up nicely with out killing us for years to come.Now who believes that McNair has learned something about football??
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Convince me that signing ASO "kills" us for years to come? You can not stand on "he might get hurt". Well so could any player. Nnamdi has a good health history. Most think he can play corner another 4 years & many think he could then move to safety especially with his size.
 
I think Joseph will leave the Bengals. With how they are holding Palmer and Chad hostage I really can't see why a player would want to stay there if he had other options.
 
Texas T said:
I hope this is what they did-and with Cromartie and Joseph.
It would set us up nicely with out killing us for years to come.

Now who believes that McNair has learned something about football??
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badboy said:
Convince me that signing ASO "kills" us for years to come? You can not stand on "he might get hurt". Well so could any player. Nnamdi has a good health history. Most think he can play corner another 4 years & many think he could then move to safety especially with his size.
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To play devil's advocat.... Joseph has had injuries in the past. If anybody's likely to miss time due to injury it would be him. No he wouldn't be making what Nnamdi is but you'd have to think he'll be in the $8M-$10M range.
 
DocBar said:
Are you saying that you don't think the Texans have made him an offer?
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Whether we made an offer or will make an offer, he'll use it to drive up the price like any other "big" free agent to ever visit the Texans.

Wonder if Ahman Green can play CB??? :gun:
 
Didn't we put all of our effort into a single CB last year only to lose him to a "buisness" move and force our hand into starting rookies? I might be mistaken, but I feel a groundhog day moment going on.
 
asleep said:
Nnamdi is leveraging the Texans offer, squeezing it higher, to maximize his payout from either the Jets (ring) or 49ers (home).

It's just business.
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Actually I predicted just the opposite two days ago. Aso's agent is leveraging these other teams to get Aso the max deal from the Texans.
 
The 49'ers are being used against us to inflate the price. When Nnamdi said he wanted to go to a contender, he wasn't thinking San Francisco.
 
euro-Texan said:
Didn't we put all of our effort into a single CB last year only to lose him to a "buisness" move and force our hand into starting rookies? I might be mistaken, but I feel a groundhog day moment going on.
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Texans aren't putting all their effort into it though. We know they tried really hard to get Weddle and now we hear of them going after Manning, and also the rumors of Joseph.
 
euro-Texan said:
Didn't we put all of our effort into a single CB last year only to lose him to a "buisness" move and force our hand into starting rookies? I might be mistaken, but I feel a groundhog day moment going on.
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We've also contacted Joseph and possibly Cromartie.

Last year was difficult becase Bodden was the #1 FA. Then there were a bunch of RFAs (5). And Dunta. And the next highest ranked CB FA was Philip Buchanon and then Hood from the Titans.

So it was Bodden or nothing. This year there are more options.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
We've also contacted Joseph and possibly Cromartie.

Last year was difficult becase Bodden was the #1 FA. Then there were a bunch of RFAs (5). And Dunta. And the next highest ranked CB FA was Philip Buchanon and then Hood from the Titans.

So it was Bodden or nothing. This year there are more options.
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Great point. I didn't recall all of the other options (or lack there of) last year. I'm going to get worried if some of these other FA start falling off the board though.
 
My new crazy theory:

Clayton reported yesterday thath would announce something last night. Needless to say that never happened. Media said it was because they are waiting to see what Aso's contract is to set the bar. Then the other story got out that the Texans are very much in this with the highest money offer combine with that tweet from Zierlein not to worry about cap numbers.

I believe the Texans have a max offer on the table. Whenever the Jets and 49'ers place a a bid the agent tells em "not high enough, still under Texans". They also have a sercurity net in place with an offer to Joseph contingent on signing Aso. Its a big offer so Joseph is willing to wait and see what happens. Its also in his best interest since if Aso signs a HUGE deal it would drive his value up.

Crazy I know but the fact the Texans had Weddle and made the Chargers overspend says a lot.
 
DX-TEX said:
My new crazy theory:

Clayton reported yesterday thath would announce something last night. Needless to say that never happened. Media said it was because they are waiting to see what Aso's contract is to set the bar. Then the other story got out that the Texans are very much in this with the highest money offer combine with that tweet from Zierlein not to worry about cap numbers.

I believe the Texans have a max offer on the table. Whenever the Jets and 49'ers place a a bid the agent tells em "not high enough, still under Texans". They also have a sercurity net in place with an offer to Joseph contingent on signing Aso. Its a big offer so Joseph is willing to wait and see what happens. Its also in his best interest since if Aso signs a HUGE deal it would drive his value up.

Crazy I know but the fact the Texans had Weddle and made the Chargers overspend says a lot.
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My new crazy theory is that Nnamdi is playing the different teams against each other and the Texans are playing Nnamdi against Joseph. Last night, I think that was a power play and someone was threatening to announce a "signing" and then someone came back with another offer.
 
euro-Texan said:
If I remember correctly, Orlando Pace was a buisness man as well. I wonder who his agent was.
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Lol its funny though b/c let some people in here tell it, landing these caliber of FA's is all on the texans FO & the player has next to nothing to do with it. They say that If Ricky & Gurry just qued up the Rudy music, made an inspiring speech to the player about how they were the missing link, everything else would easily take care of itself & these top FA's wouldn't stand a chance in being able to resist coming to Houston.

The other forces (like the actual player wanting to come here, team situations, & the player's agent games) are just secondary & don't matter in the grand scheme of courting these guys. & of course this as we've seen in the past with so many other players, is far from the truth. All of this crap matters & the only way to get around all of that is to blow every other team out of the water.................likely at the expense of the rest of your team. Hopefully, this isn't the case for us.
 
DX-TEX said:
My new crazy theory:

Clayton reported yesterday thath would announce something last night. Needless to say that never happened. Media said it was because they are waiting to see what Aso's contract is to set the bar. Then the other story got out that the Texans are very much in this with the highest money offer combine with that tweet from Zierlein not to worry about cap numbers.

I believe the Texans have a max offer on the table. Whenever the Jets and 49'ers place a a bid the agent tells em "not high enough, still under Texans". They also have a sercurity net in place with an offer to Joseph contingent on signing Aso. Its a big offer so Joseph is willing to wait and see what happens. Its also in his best interest since if Aso signs a HUGE deal it would drive his value up.

Crazy I know but the fact the Texans had Weddle and made the Chargers overspend says a lot.
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Not crazy at all. It's what we do
 
badboy said:
Convince me that signing ASO "kills" us for years to come? You can not stand on "he might get hurt". Well so could any player. Nnamdi has a good health history. Most think he can play corner another 4 years & many think he could then move to safety especially with his size.
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I wasn't even thinking injury, I was driving toward the $$ he will tie up for years. I'm not confident that the Texans can play the cap game well enough to keep us from dieing in the next couple of years based on one guy.
I've seen all the stuff about our capologist but how well has that worked??
I'm concerned that the longer this drags out the more $$ we will spend for him and then next year we will be screwed.
I'm not sure if one good year is worth it...but that could be the Houston Sports fan in me, seeing the bad in everything...
 
DX-TEX said:
My new crazy theory:

Clayton reported yesterday thath would announce something last night. Needless to say that never happened. Media said it was because they are waiting to see what Aso's contract is to set the bar. Then the other story got out that the Texans are very much in this with the highest money offer combine with that tweet from Zierlein not to worry about cap numbers.

I believe the Texans have a max offer on the table. Whenever the Jets and 49'ers place a a bid the agent tells em "not high enough, still under Texans". They also have a sercurity net in place with an offer to Joseph contingent on signing Aso. Its a big offer so Joseph is willing to wait and see what happens. Its also in his best interest since if Aso signs a HUGE deal it would drive his value up.

Crazy I know but the fact the Texans had Weddle and made the Chargers overspend says a lot.
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Not crazy at all. I hope you're right.
 
fiasco west said:
Texans aren't putting all their effort into it though. We know they tried really hard to get Weddle and now we hear of them going after Manning, and also the rumors of Joseph.
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where is the source to say we tried hard for weddle all i heard was the we were in contact, and the manning rumours arnt much either
 
ensign_lee said:
I don't understand how SF is in the picture. Aren't they set to release Nate Clements because of cap issues?
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If they set Clements free, it was reported that it would give them "more than enough" room/money to sign Nnamdi

Rotoworld said:
According to ESPN's Mike Sando, the 49ers' impending release of Nate Clements would clear "more than enough" salary cap space for the team to sign free agent Nnamdi Asomugha.
...Clements was scheduled to count $17 million against the cap. The Niners are known to be "strongly" in pursuit of Asomugha, and they likely now have the funds to execute. San Francisco appears to be neck-and-neck with the Jets at this point. Jul 27, 6:30 PM
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