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The Nnamdi Asomugha Thread

The "hype" from the Jets havinga realistic shot is just that: typical east coast media hype. Espn is notorious for this damn east coast bias.
 
aussie_texan said:
where is the source to say we tried hard for weddle all i heard was the we were in contact, and the manning rumours arnt much either
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The bad news for the Texans: They lost out on safety Eric Weddle after the Chargers reportedly “extended their budget” to get Weddle away from Houston.

The good news: They can use the money they saved to go after a cornerback with more value than Weddle. (And we actually like Weddle plenty.)
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...texans-turn-attention-to-asomugha-and-joseph/

EDIT: others beat me to it!
 
DX-TEX said:
My new crazy theory:

Clayton reported yesterday thath would announce something last night. Needless to say that never happened. Media said it was because they are waiting to see what Aso's contract is to set the bar. Then the other story got out that the Texans are very much in this with the highest money offer combine with that tweet from Zierlein not to worry about cap numbers.

I believe the Texans have a max offer on the table. Whenever the Jets and 49'ers place a a bid the agent tells em "not high enough, still under Texans". They also have a sercurity net in place with an offer to Joseph contingent on signing Aso. Its a big offer so Joseph is willing to wait and see what happens. Its also in his best interest since if Aso signs a HUGE deal it would drive his value up.

Crazy I know but the fact the Texans had Weddle and made the Chargers overspend says a lot.
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Not crazy but don't see it. I can see a twist on it where basically Aso started saying he wanted 17-20 mil/season. Texans maybe max at 14-15 mil. Probably 15. 49ers can do that so now you have a choice. Jets start at 12 mil and that is where he'd like to play but money talks. So the delay now is can the Jets cut enough to get between 12 and 15...say "You hit 14 and we got a deal." Thus Jets working hard.

As far as Weddle. That happened pretty quick. From what I heard Texans and others wanted bid but Chargers were already willing to spend even if the Texans had offered alot, as report above said.
 
DX-TEX said:
My new crazy theory:

Clayton reported yesterday thath would announce something last night. Needless to say that never happened. Media said it was because they are waiting to see what Aso's contract is to set the bar. Then the other story got out that the Texans are very much in this with the highest money offer combine with that tweet from Zierlein not to worry about cap numbers.

I believe the Texans have a max offer on the table. Whenever the Jets and 49'ers place a a bid the agent tells em "not high enough, still under Texans". They also have a sercurity net in place with an offer to Joseph contingent on signing Aso. Its a big offer so Joseph is willing to wait and see what happens. Its also in his best interest since if Aso signs a HUGE deal it would drive his value up.

Crazy I know but the fact the Texans had Weddle and made the Chargers overspend says a lot.
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not crazy at all..this might be why we have yet to hear anything about the players we're releasing b/c it would give opposing teams an idea of how much cap space we're prepared to clear to sign Aso...& other players. the number that's out there for us right now is 6-7 million under the cap.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Not crazy but don't see it. I can see a twist on it where basically Aso started saying he wanted 17-20 mil/season. Texans maybe max at 14-15 mil. Probably 15. 49ers can do that so now you have a choice. Jets start at 12 mil and that is where he'd like to play but money talks. So the delay now is can the Jets cut enough to get between 12 and 15...say "You hit 14 and we got a deal." Thus Jets working hard.
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Bob desparately wants to be a big boy in this league. I think last year finally drove him over the edge and the fans talk got to him. He paid $700 miillion for this franchise and has been one up'ed on every single thing he does every year.

Dont forget the talk that came out last season where Rex Ryan called the Texans "wimps, soft" and knew his team would beat us in 09. Bob is pissed and doesnt want to be a second class citizen anymore. If they wont let him in the elite door he will knock the damn door down. He has been hanging around Bum a lot.:fans:
 
HoustonFrog said:
Not crazy but don't see it. I can see a twist on it where basically Aso started saying he wanted 17-20 mil/season. Texans maybe max at 14-15 mil. Probably 15. 49ers can do that so now you have a choice. Jets start at 12 mil and that is where he'd like to play but money talks. So the delay now is can the Jets cut enough to get between 12 and 15...say "You hit 14 and we got a deal." Thus Jets working hard.

As far as Weddle. That happened pretty quick. From what I heard Texans and others wanted bid but Chargers were already willing to spend.
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Just typing out loud here, but I wonder if part of the problem is length of deal and how the $$ is structured and how much is garaunteed. The devil could very well be in the details with this. Weddle said on Sirius NFL that the Texans and Jags were very much targeting him.
 
The lack of inaction by the Texans in the FA market tells me that we are almost guaranteed getting either Nnamdi or Joseph. I just hope it's resolved sometime early today so we can address the other areas of the team.
 
Texas T said:
I wasn't even thinking injury, I was driving toward the $$ he will tie up for years. I'm not confident that the Texans can play the cap game well enough to keep us from dieing in the next couple of years based on one guy.
I've seen all the stuff about our capologist but how well has that worked??
I'm concerned that the longer this drags out the more $$ we will spend for him and then next year we will be screwed.
I'm not sure if one good year is worth it...but that could be the Houston Sports fan in me, seeing the bad in everything...
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Actually Texans have worked cap pretty well as seen by the $118m reported by several sources compared to NFL cap of $120m. They have also added Antonio Smith and Wade Smith as free agents. No they did not sign Leigh Bodden but he got a lot of money elsewhere. As fans we want Texans to spend whatever to get who we think is best. Even on this limited MB fans are all over about what would be best deal.
 
DX-TEX said:
Bob desparately wants to be a big boy in this league. I think last year finally drove him over the edge and the fans talk got to him. He paid $700 miillion for this franchise and has been one up'ed on every single thing he does every year.

Dont forget the talk that came out last season where Rex Ryan called the Texans "wimps, soft" and knew his team would beat us in 09. Bob is pissed and doesnt want to be a second class citizen anymore. If they wont let him in the elite door he will knock the damn door down. He has been hanging around Bum a lot.:fans:
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I'm not sure of this version of Bob McNair you are talking about. The same one who thought owners were proud of a heartbreaking loss and who thought the Texans were on the right track. The same one that said the other day that they would make smart moves and who said this when Wade was hired

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2011/07/hey_texans_has_anybody_checked.php

"I have so much more confidence. Generally, when you make any kind of change, you sort of hold your breath. You say, 'Boy, I hope this works out.' I'm not saying that here. It will work out. [Wade's] done it. He's been there. He's come in, he's looked at our film, we've talked about it, and he just cut to the quick so fast. He saw exactly what our problems were, and he had ideas as to how they could be corrected that weren't necessarily requiring a lot of additional personnel." -- Texans owner Bob McNair on Texans defensive coordinator Wade Phillips the day he was hired, 1/6/11
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With all of that said I see Bob having a 15 mil max and that is what is out there. So they are in it but I don't think there is a massive negotiation...just their max offer...JMO
 
Can you imagine if we land Nnamdi AND sign Danieal Manning. SO freaking awesome if that happens.

I KNOW we're going to get a FA (Nnamdi, Joseph, Cromartie, whoever) and they are going to be our "#1".... but honest question here: Who's going to line up opposite him? Will it be Jackson or Allen? I'd imagine Harris will see some time in nickle situations too. I'll be really interested to see how the corners shake out. Quin + Manning as safety nets? Yes please.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
Can you imagine if we land Nnamdi AND sign Danieal Manning. SO freaking awesome if that happens.

I KNOW we're going to get a FA (Nnamdi, Joseph, Cromartie, whoever) and they are going to be our "#1".... but honest question here: Who's going to line up opposite him? Will it be Jackson or Allen? I'd imagine Harris will see some time in nickle situations too. I'll be really interested to see how the corners shake out. Quin + Manning as safety nets? Yes please.
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I'd start Allen and make Jackson earn play time.
 
HoustonFrog said:
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2011/07/hey_texans_has_anybody_checked.php
"I have so much more confidence. Generally, when you make any kind of change, you sort of hold your breath. You say, 'Boy, I hope this works out.' I'm not saying that here. It will work out. [Wade's] done it. He's been there. He's come in, he's looked at our film, we've talked about it, and he just cut to the quick so fast. He saw exactly what our problems were, and he had ideas as to how they could be corrected that weren't necessarily requiring a lot of additional personnel." -- Texans owner Bob McNair on Texans defensive coordinator Wade Phillips the day he was hired, 1/6/11
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I hope after this weekend with the signing of some top secondary free agents that we understand the second part of what McNair was thinking but didn't say:

"He saw exactly what our problems were, and he had ideas as to how they could be corrected that weren't necessarily requiring a lot of additional personnel. So that tells me we're close. But I told him we're adding Nnamdi and a veteran safety so that should put the perverbial nail in the coffin, so to speak." LOL
 
HoustonFrog said:
I'm not sure of this version of Bob McNair you are talking about. The same one who thought owners were proud of a heartbreaking loss and who thought the Texans were on the right track. The same one that said the other day that they would make smart moves and who said this when Wade was hired

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2011/07/hey_texans_has_anybody_checked.php



With all of that said I see Bob having a 15 mil max and that is what is out there. So they are in it but I don't think there is a massive negotiation...just their max offer...JMO
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Im trying to feel warm and tingly. I like to imagine Bob as the Hulk. Mild mannered,tempered, layed back but when he gets angry........BOB SMASH!!! OVERPAY FREE AGENTS!!!!!
 
RT @michaelombardi: Hearing Houston has moved into the lead for Asomugha—money in the 12-14 mill per year range...Revis makes 11.5 per year
 
#Texans have reportedly moved into the foreground in the race for CB Nnamdi Asomugha for roughly $12-14M/yr, updates surely to come. #NFL

from "nfldraftupdate"
 
Mr teX said:
I'm at work...........but im the boss :heh:
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That's me....LOL.

I just tell the guys to leave me alone, I'm trying to get all of these damn TPS reports done!

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ya the way it keeps going from jets->sf->texans def makes it look like hes trying to drive up the price... still exciting but will he take the money though?
 
I don't think I like Lombardi very much. He was counting us out almost completely until now. Wonder what happened. He must have gotten some big information.
 
HoustonSportsFan09 said:
michaelombardi Michael Lombardi
Hearing Houston has moved into the lead for Nnamdi Asomugha—money will be in the 12-14 mill per year range...Revis makes 11.5 per year
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Boy well that's nice to hear, but it ain't over yet!

The thing about Nnamdi to the Jets (for me) is not how much cap room can they clear... it's how they make Nnamdi and Revis both happy from a contract sense. We can debate who is better Nnamdi or Revis... they're both the best, there are valid arguements for either. Honestly, I'd imagine that the Jets/Rex probably think Revis is in fact the best. They see him everyday, they've got a history with him, he's done extremely well there. They JUST renegotiated Revis' contract 9 months ago because Revis was unhappy. Does it make sense to sign a CB that is equal to or maybe "not quite as good" as Revis for 15%-20% per year?? It makes no sense to me. Not that they can't afford to do it, but how are you going to pay Nnamdi $14M and Revis $12M if you think Revis is better. Revis would probably love to play opposite Nnamdi but that's not going to tied him over too long, he's going to ask for more money to get paid equally.

It'd be like us signing Larry Fitzgerald to a contract where he's making $2M-$3M more a year than Andre Johnson. Sure maybe we can technically do that and be under the cap... but it doesn't make sense.
 
Well I'm sticking with my prediction, we're gonna get him and Sensabaugh, and Trap Star's gonna video himself dancing naked.... is it wrong of me to be giddy about that? I mean, the signing of Aso and Sensabaugh of course :)
 
HoustonSportsFan09 said:
This. I want to believe it but nothing is done until its done. Already had one guy back out of his agreement with a team.
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Exactly. I would love to sign him, but I hate the unknown variables.

My biggest fear is completely missing the boat on other players due to the time and effort invested in this one guy. Hopefully they have a contingency plan in place where they'll already have a plan B & C ready to go if we don't get Aso.

I'd be happy if we got him, but furious if we get nobody.
 
ThaJokaa said:
:fans:
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Lombardi being interviewing on NFL Network mentioning no income tax in Texas, Jets still facing Revis money (if Jets sign ASO (matching offer by Texans) Revis agent will be on telphone demanding more $. Houston has "lots of money" (say what John McClain?) and is back at #1 in Nnamdi race. Said he expects deal done today by someone.
 
FirstTexansFan said:
Well I'm sticking with my prediction, we're gonna get him and Sensabaugh, and Trap Star's gonna video himself dancing naked.... is it wrong of me to be giddy about that? I mean, the signing of Aso and Sensabaugh of course :)
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Sens/Hope/Manning would all be upgrades. Honestly, I'd take whoever was the cheapest..
 
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