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The Nnamdi Asomugha Thread

CKW:

Allstar said he heard it on Francesca's radio show, so there's no link.

Here was the original statement by Allstar in the "Texans Prepared To Make A Huge Offer For Aso?" thread (within the first 30 posts of the thread):

Originally Posted by Allstar

Mike Francesa: "Nnamdi Asomugha is going to Houston" Says everyone in the NFL knows it and it's the "worst kept secret in the NFL".
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I messed up and thought it was Peter King. Everything is happening so quickly, it's hard to not get these media guys mixed up. Especially with all the tweets and stuff. My bad.
 
Just want to say that earlier this evening I was thinking just what Allstar posted recently: If the Jets were "that" hungry for some Aso, they would have pulled the trigger already.

I had posted earlier tonight that I think what happened is that the Jets were clearing room for him, tried to approach the agent...but the agent said Houston's on "automatic bid" like you have on ebay. "Try again, please."

They're not going to be able to do it.

Now the agent is going to use all of Thursday to see if Dallas, or Baltimore, or San Fran, or any other team wants to try and outbid Bob. And thus, Francesca will have been proven correct. Bob wants this guy bad. But I think he might have flirted with Weddle, Weddle went back and used as leverage and got even more to stay with Chargers.

This is why, IMO, we didn't overspend for Weddle. Put out a semi-soft feeler, thinking we might be able to pair Weddle with Joseph or hell maybe even with Aso (you never know). If we got Weddle, we go get Joseph and leave Nnamdi behind. Maybe we're waiting to decide on Leach based on what we get out of the various combinations the Texans are waiting to occur for us?
 
El Tejano said:
That makes me feel much better about our front office. Sounds as if we've been going after Weddle and Aso/Joseph. Sucks we couldn't get Weddle. At least we see they are working on stuff. Better than what I thought earlier that they were sitting on their thumbs again.
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I agree. It took the Chargers making Weddle the highest paid safety in NFL history in order to steal him away from us. That right there tells me we aren't playing around in courting some of these guys.
 
I haven't checked the NSZ for hours... you know how long its been since I did that? Four months.... lol

Mike
 
Kaiser Toro said:
Everyone needs balance. The NSZ is about discipline, Free Agency prognostication is about flip flopping.
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I thought the NSZ was about rigidly maintaining whatever position you went in there with while ignoring objective facts that might challenge your already established world view.

In other words, the flip flopping is the balance from regular NSZ visits.
 
Carr Bombed said:
The Colts had the #1 defense in the playoffs the year they won the SB and the Saints weren't bad either.


We aren't talking about yearly rankings....we're talking about a historically bad ranking here. On a yearly ranking you can't drop below 31 and 32. If you assess how bad Houston was historic wise defensively, (especially pass defense) they don't remotely compare to Indy or the Saints rankings the years they won the SB. They aren't even in the same stratosphere. No way in hell would Indy or the Saints win a SB if their defense was in the process of giving up hail Marys' or if they have CBs falling down everywhere.
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This is a catchall post. Just because you can point to this or that doesn't alter the fact that the Texans have sucked on both sides of the ball when the chips were down. You can play it off as this or that, but it's a matter of record that neither side of the ball came to the rescue of the othr side often enough to get us into the playoffs. That's what matters. You can't go all Jets om people and win win playoff games you should lose by not being in the playoffs. The Jets got there and kicked ass. The Texans haven't even had a legitimate sniff at the playoffs. They remind me of the bunch of boys trying to get laid in Porky's.
 
Corrosion said:
16th longest .... including the NSZ , No Sports & NSFW.


Last one to post wins being the longest with ..... 31,835 replies.
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Damn, still 800 more replies until we catch up with the Moulds thread.

Man, were we really that excited about Eric Moulds?
 
I wonder if us signing Butler, Jones, and Leinhart yesterday means we have an agreement with a CB, as if we knew we had money to work with. If true maybe we have a tentative deal with Leach based on us getting the CB for our current offer but still leaving the door open for bidding war. All just speculation but the tea leaves might be telling a story. The Leach front has been quite.
 
Big Lou said:
I wonder if us signing Butler, Jones, and Leinhart yesterday means we have an agreement with a CB, as if we knew we had money to work with. If true maybe we have a tentative deal with Leach based on us getting the CB for our current offer but still leaving the door open for bidding war. All just speculation but the tea leaves might be telling a story. The Leach front has been quite.
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Here's something interesting I just read and found interesting regarding the cap

Some have contended that the Texans are limited in cap space, so these signings have made that situation worse...they are misinformed. NFL teams do not have to be under the salary cap, which will feel like $126 million, until August 4th. They’ll worry about whether they can land a premier free agent first, and if they do they’ll deal with restructuring contracts and cutting players to make room.

These deals do not hurt that salary cap issue. Butler’s deal was peanuts for the peace of mind he provides, and I would bet that Jones’ deal is structured so that most of his money hits the cap in 2012 and 2013, rather than this year.
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DocBar said:
This is a catchall post. Just because you can point to this or that doesn't alter the fact that the Texans have sucked on both sides of the ball when the chips were down. You can play it off as this or that, but it's a matter of record that neither side of the ball came to the rescue of the othr side often enough to get us into the playoffs. That's what matters. You can't go all Jets om people and win win playoff games you should lose by not being in the playoffs. The Jets got there and kicked ass. The Texans haven't even had a legitimate sniff at the playoffs. They remind me of the bunch of boys trying to get laid in Porky's.
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What are you talking about? I'm not talking about the Texans' whole entire history of their franchise here. The only thing relevant in this argument is last year and last year it wasn't their offense that held them back. BTW that offense did bring them back and even won them games last season. I'm sick of the woe is us Houston sports fan outlook. It reminds me of the people that piled on me because I said Arian Foster wasn't going to be Chris Taylor. BTW you do realize that Schaub has led more than his fair share of 4th quarter comebacks and last season the 4th quarter was one of his best quarters don't you?.

I do understand your frustration here, but I don't understand the direction of your criticism. The offense struggled at times, but it wasn't the problem. Field a defense that can force 3 and outs, turnovers, and short fields and then tell me how crappy this offense is or how bad Schaub is at operating in the 4th quarter. Every single season has it's own challenges and it's hard to compare one season to the next. It's like the people that act like Schaub cant lead us to the playoffs, but are more than willing to admit that if we had Rackers instead of Brown in '09, Schaub would've led us to the playoffs... It just doesn't make sense. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Things aren't as battle red rosie as some make it seem, but on the flip side, they aren't as remotely absolute **** (the sky is falling) either.
 
Big Lou said:
I wonder if us signing Butler, Jones, and Leinhart yesterday means we have an agreement with a CB, as if we knew we had money to work with. If true maybe we have a tentative deal with Leach based on us getting the CB for our current offer but still leaving the door open for bidding war. All just speculation but the tea leaves might be telling a story. The Leach front has been quite.
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The question I have is, If the Texans DO have a CB on their radar, is he a game changer?
It looks to me pretty much like all those guys are already gone. No, the Texans remain true to form with no-name FA'a and building "the right way" through the draft. History predicts the future the Texans history is now and always. Gonna be a long year for the defense.
 
GNTLEWOLF said:
The question I have is, If the Texans DO have a CB on their radar, is he a game changer?
It looks to me pretty much like all those guys are already gone. No, the Texans remain true to form with no-name FA'a and building "the right way" through the draft. History predicts the future the Texans history is now and always. Gonna be a long year for the defense.
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The three best cornerbacks are still available.
 
Signing day is tomorrow! C'mon Nnamdi make an effin decision/announcement already! Hopefully we hear something my midday today.



...wonder if the Texans will do like they did to Reggie Bush and just go on to the next target if Aso takes too long.
 
RTP2110 said:
Signing day is tomorrow! C'mon Nnamdi make an effin decision/announcement already! Hopefully we hear something my midday today.



...wonder if the Texans will do like they did to Reggie Bush and just go on to the next target if Aso takes too long.
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Honestly if they can get Joseph by the end of the night I won't blame them if they did.

What you don't want to do is sit around while Nnamdi twiddle's his fingers and takes his time while everyone else signs. I'm betting other teams think that way too and hopefully there is some pressure on him to make that decision today.

Meanwhile Schefter said that the Jets are in the lead for Nnamdi and that they have the cap space to get it done.

If this is true and if it is true that Nnamdi really wants to go to the Jets then it should have been done. Instead you have Clayton saying Nnamdi might not make a decision until the weekend.
 
fiasco west said:
Honestly if they can get Joseph by the end of the night I won't blame them if they did.

What you don't want to do is sit around while Nnamdi twiddle's his fingers and takes his time while everyone else signs. I'm betting other teams think that way too and hopefully there is some pressure on him to make that decision today.

Meanwhile Schefter said that the Jets are in the lead for Nnamdi and that they have the cap space to get it done.

If this is true and if it is true that Nnamdi really wants to go to the Jets then it should have been done. Instead you have Clayton saying Nnamdi might not make a decision until the weekend.
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I believe Nnamdi is waiting to see how much the price goes up by the time signing time begins.
 
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Jets are more than $10 million UNDER salary cap, according to two NFL capologists. Might make the Jets the favorite to land Nnamdi Asomugha.
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Schefter adds on SportsCenter Jets are the favorite, its a matter of them "convincing" him to play there.

rotoworld said:
The Texans are "in the mix" for free agent Nnamdi Asomugha, sources tell the Houston Chronicle.

The problem for Houston is that Jets are now reportedly nearly $10 million under the cap -- and that's before they restructure contracts. It's going to be hard to pry Asomugha away from Broadway and coach Rex Ryan if they can't even offer the most money. The Texans may be better off turning their attention to free agent Johnathan Joseph.
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Texanmike said:
I think he's watching this thread. When it gets to page 100 he will sign with us.

Mike
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Well if that's the case, here's me making my contribution. Just got off work, got some eggs, bacon, and coffee, and Sportscenter on while this topic refreshes every few minutes. Let's get this done. :cow:
 
BetaV1 said:
Well if that's the case, here's me making my contribution. Just got off work, got some eggs, bacon, and coffee, and Sportscenter on while this topic refreshes every few minutes. Let's get this done. :cow:
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I'd punch a hobo in the neck for some eggs, bacon and coffee....and to land Aso.
 
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
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Jets are more than $10 million UNDER salary cap, according to two NFL capologists. Might make the Jets the favorite to land Nnamdi Asomugha.
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Ruh roh...

With McClain saying Texans would have to rework a number of contracts if they got Aso...


Gotta say, though, if Jets have more room than Texans we need a "capologist" transplant.
 
Some dude, Paul Greco, host of a show on Sirius I guess.....just said;

#Texans still in Nnamdi Asomugha race. A lot of jack going to be thrown his way. Moved in late last night & have meetings today with agent
 
asleep said:
Ruh roh...

With McClain saying Texans would have to rework a number of contracts if they got Aso...


Gotta say, though, if Jets have more room than Texans we need a "capologist" transplant.
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McClain is NOT a reliable guy for cap numbers...

From LZ's Twitter

Said member of Texans organization, "You aren't buying into this 'we might not have cap room' stuff are you?"
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DX-TEX said:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...texans-turn-attention-to-asomugha-and-joseph/



So if this article is correct Weddle was ready to sign with us and the Chargers had to over extend to keep him. Were we going after Weddle and Aso?
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Many times I hear John say on radio 610 "Texans up against the cap. What starters do they cut to go after Asomugha?" Well, Mr. McClain so far no starter has been cut. I have advocated that borderline players could be cut + salary adjustments would do it. At least he seems to be coming off the "Absolutely no way!" mantra.
What I guaranttee he (and others on this MB) will do if Aso is not a Texan; "see I told you absolutely no way."
 
asleep said:
Ruh roh...

With McClain saying Texans would have to rework a number of contracts if they got Aso...


Gotta say, though, if Jets have more room than Texans we need a "capologist" transplant.
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Just the opposite though...If the jets are already reportedly under 10 million, it probably spells the end for some of their other key guys. Braylon Edwards has already been tweeting that he wants to be a jet but apparently the feeling "isn't mutual"..We also know they have to resign David Harris & it probably also means that Cromartie is outta there as well.

On a side note, what does this really say about how Ryan feels about everyone's favorite draft pick from just 2 years ago in Kyle Wilson?
 
Mr teX said:
Just the opposite though...If the jets are already reportedly under 10 million, it probably spells the end for some of their other key guys. Braylon Edwards has already been tweeting that he wants to be a jet but apparently the feeling "isn't mutual"..We also know they have to resign David Harris & it probably also means that Cromartie is outta there as well.

On a side note, what does this really say about how Ryan feels about everyone's favorite draft pick from just 2 years ago in Kyle Wilson?
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it means that wilson has some kind of foot fungus, along with some bunions...total boner kill for rexy.
 
Then there was this

http://twitter.com/#!/evansilva


evansilva Evan Silva
If #Jets lose Nnamdi Asomugha to the #49ers, they're expected to reset their sights on signing Antonio Cromartie. http://bit.ly/pBR4gl
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TheMatrix31 said:
I'm pretty much convinced that if Nnamdi was gonna be a Jet, he would be one by now.
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Disagree completely. If they are 10 million under and want to make sure he is happy they can cut some more salary or restructure some guys and promise him more. From what I've read with the new CBA you can easily make his 2011 number very cap friendly and then give him what he wants other years.
 
If my "first choice" is declaring that they have the room, that they're highly interested, that they're gonna make it work, blah blah, then why would I waste time with the other teams? If the Jets fit perfectly, then it would have happened. Especially for Nnamdi, who's generally a no-nonsense guy.

I think his using the JETS to drive up the price for Houston and other teams with more money to throw at him.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
If my "first choice" is declaring that they have the room, that they're highly interested, that they're gonna make it work, blah blah, then why would I waste time with the other teams? If the Jets fit perfectly, then it would have happened. Especially for Nnamdi, who's generally a no-nonsense guy.

I think his using the JETS to drive up the price for Houston and other teams with more money to throw at him.
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The same reason you stated in your last paragraph..."Houston and the 49ers are really coming hard..." Then the Jets add another million or 2 because they decide to restructure someone. You can play with the money all day and make the years and money fit.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
If my "first choice" is declaring that they have the room, that they're highly interested, that they're gonna make it work, blah blah, then why would I waste time with the other teams? If the Jets fit perfectly, then it would have happened. Especially for Nnamdi, who's generally a no-nonsense guy.

I think his using the JETS to drive up the price for Houston and other teams with more money to throw at him.
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Would be a smart thing for him to do. Once he knows that the Texans are desperately wanting him, his agent is probably like "let's milk this... because we can." Leak to the media that you really like New York, that you want to form a great tandem with Revis, that you really like Rex Ryan, that you want to play for a winner. Those are all probably truths and/or at least very believable for a team like us to say "Oh sh*t", here's another million per year.
 
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