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The Nnamdi Asomugha Thread

GP said:
At the risk of coming off as being ignorant of the impact of this news...

Does this mean the Jets have less to spend on a certain someone else?
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Reports out of today are that the Jets are leading the charge for Nnamdi.
 
Allstar said:
Reports out of today are that the Jets are leading the charge for Nnamdi.
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But does the new news of the Holmes offer tend to make people re-evaluate that Nnamdi-to-Jets speculation?

Weddle wants $7 mill-per and there is a report that Houston is showing interest.

1. We get Aso

2. Or, we don't and we get Weddle because Jets can't afford both Aso and Weddle.

3. OR, we get Aso AND Weddle, which would just be craziness.

I have to go for that walk I was talking about. Must regain ninja focus....
 
GP said:
At the risk of coming off as being ignorant of the impact of this news...

Does this mean the Jets have less to spend on a certain someone else?
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Depends on how much they have to throw at Holmes, but I'm guessing it will be at least 7.5 million a year. Sanchez can restructure but it will only net a couple extra million for this year. I have a hard time believing they can spend more than 10 million in 2011 on Aso given their cap space.
 
GP said:
But does the new news of the Holmes offer tend to make people re-evaluate that Nnamdi-to-Jets speculation?

Weddle wants $7 mill-per and there is a report that Houston is showing interest.

1. We get Aso

2. Or, we don't and we get Weddle because Jets can't afford both Aso and Weddle.

3. OR, we get Aso AND Weddle, which would just be craziness.

I have to go for that walk I was talking about. Must regain ninja focus....
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Where on earth are you getting the idea that the Jets are after Weddle?
 
Dutchrudder said:
Depends on how much they have to throw at Holmes, but I'm guessing it will be at least 7.5 million a year. Sanchez can restructure but it will only net a couple extra million for this year. I have a hard time believing they can spend more than 10 million in 2011 on Aso given their cap space.
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Just because the Jets have made an offer doesn't mean much. Holmes will have many more........and quite possibly go with an other team. That would dump a load back into the kitty to spend less on a replacement WR and more on Aso. Obviously time will tell.
 
Texans would be Super Bowl contenders?
UPDATE: Lance Zierlein of the Houston Chronicle reports that former cornerback Glover Quin is now "locked in" at safety. That opens a hole at CB for a certain high-profile free agent.

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ESPN's Chris Mortensen says that if the Houston Texans want to be Super Bowl contenders, they need only make one signing: cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha.

"On Asomugha, Texans will go hard; you have to believe their offer will top all," Mortensen writes. "That's a Super Bowl contender if they land him."

- Vince Verhe
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http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Just because the Jets have made an offer doesn't mean much. Holmes will have many more........and quite possibly go with an other team. That would dump a load back into the kitty to spend less on a replacement WR and more on Aso. Obviously time will tell.
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Very true, but you have to imagine all those battling for Aso put their best offer on the table day 1. There's a reason the number 1 FA is the first to get snagged most years.
 
I'm just gonna be expecting that i'll be yelling expletives at Aso come August 15th instead of cheering his name.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Just because the Jets have made an offer doesn't mean much. Holmes will have many more........and quite possibly go with an other team. That would dump a load back into the kitty to spend less on a replacement WR and more on Aso. Obviously time will tell.
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I think they will work to keep him. An offer is a start, it may not be all that he wants, but I think he is a higher priority for the Jets than Aso is.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Just because the Jets have made an offer doesn't mean much. Holmes will have many more........and quite possibly go with an other team. That would dump a load back into the kitty to spend less on a replacement WR and more on Aso. Obviously time will tell.
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You know that's true but you have to wonder, if you're the jets and you lose Holmes that's very damaging. That is catastrophic for that offense. Cromartie, Revis, Sanchez and Holmes is probably stronger than Aso, Revis, Sanchez and another WO. They are losing Edwards and Holmes. Edwards isn't a number 1, probably, but he's about as good as anything not named Holmes (dep on Rice recovery)...

No doubt Revis/Aso is amazing but their offense would be one dimensional and honestly you have to wonder what Sanchez is w/o Holmes and Edwards...

Mike
 
BullNation4Life said:
Too bad they won't have the money to get it done. Already sitting at like 118 of a 120 mil cap with nobody of real significance in making money to cut...
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As has been said a few times now: the cap is not a hard $120m. There are exceptions and benefits that can give a team up to $130m - $140m of room.-
 
EllisUnit said:
It is the Jets we have all seen the personalities on that team. Now do i know for sure No, but my speculation is the same is speculating they will restructure.
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Mark Sanchez is on my television right now saying he would take a pay cut.
 
Allstar said:
Mark Sanchez is on my television right now saying he would take a pay cut.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...just-his-contract-so-jets-can-keep-receivers/
Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez wants free agent receivers Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards and Brad Smith to stay in New York. And he’s willing to take a hit on his own contract if it helps contracts for Holmes, Edwards and Smith to get done.

“Whatever it takes, whether it’s adjusting contracts, delaying payment, whatever we have to do, our team will do it,” Sanchez said today, in comments distributed by the team. “I know that. We’ll be unselfish with it. We’ll get it figured out.”

Asked to clarify whether that meant he had considered making changes to his own contract to help the team’s salary cap situation, Sanchez answered, “Absolutely, and my agent’s already talked to me about it. Whatever we need to do to win, it’s on. I think our whole team feels that way. If it’s [Darrelle] Revis, me, whoever–it doesn’t matter. So, we’ll do whatever we can.”

Sanchez never actually said he’d be willing to take less money to keep his receivers, but he’s at least willing to re-structure his deal, if that helps. (We’re not sure if Revis is actually willing to do the same, or if Sanchez just thinks Revis would be willing to do the same.)

“It’s important,” Sanchez said of continuity at receiver. “It was such a luxury to have both [Edwards and Holmes] last year. It’s almost unrealistic to have that kind of a receiving corps again. But whichever guys we get back, it’s going to be them playing really well . . . whether we have Braylon and Santonio and Brad, or one of the three, two of the three–whatever it is.”
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It seems like he is more worried about the receivers. After all, he will get a bigger contract when his is up if he is throwing to Holmes...

Mike
 
The Newark Star-Ledger confirms the Jets have "reached out" to free agent Nnamdi Asomugha.

This comes on the heels of an earlier report from ESPN's Adam Schefter that the Jets plan to "make a run at" Asomugha to pair him with Darrelle Revis. Multiple reports suggest Asomugha is willing to leave money on the table to sign with playoff contender, and Rex Ryan's squad fits the bill. Asomugha also has designs on an acting career, which may give the Jets yet another edge.

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2011/07/jets_contact_free-agent_corner.html
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It's just speculation at this point whether he'd take a paycut to play for the Jets. Because that's the only way I see them signing him unless they want to risk not having any marquee WRs and literally no passing game. Because I doubt Holmes is taking a paycut and we'll see about Edwards.
 
Everyone is talking about how easy it is getting around the new salary cap. I couldn't find a source stating how the penalties work, except this one.

The new collective bargaining agreement formulated in 2011 has a salary cap of $120 million and a salary floor of $108 million, representing 90% of the cap. The NFL's cap is a hard cap that the teams have to stay under at all times. Penalties for violating or circumventing the cap include fines of up to $5 million, cancellation of contracts and/or loss of draft picks.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salary_cap#Salary_cap_in_the_NFL

If this is accurate, doesn't look so easy OR smart.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Everyone is talking about how easy it is getting around the new salary cap. I couldn't find a source stating how the penalties work, except this one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salary_cap#Salary_cap_in_the_NFL

If this is accurate, doesn't look so easy OR smart.
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Check out what Lance Z has been saying about the cap. As far as I know there's a 3 million dollar carry over from last year or something as well as a 3.5 million dollar exemption and some other benefits that can balloon the cap up. You can also do something with money from last year and apply it to the cap as well.
 
b0ng said:
Check out what Lance Z has been saying about the cap. As far as I know there's a 3 million dollar carry over from last year or something as well as a 3.5 million dollar exemption and some other benefits that can balloon the cap up. You can also do something with money from last year and apply it to the cap as well.
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I have, but there's no reference to what constitutes going "over the cap" and what the penalties are associated with it.
 
Alright update time guys:

Jerome Solomon
Text message from Texans player: "We get Nnamdi yet?" ... Hilarious ... Talk. Of. The. Town.
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Now, here's some GOOD news: Straight from the mouth of Tampa Bay Buccaneers GM Mark Dominik:

I asked Mark Dominik about Nnamdi Asomugha specifically. His answer: "I would temper that. The way we’ve been building this football team, the way we’ve been doing this over the last couple yrs, I think there’s a blueprint that’s already sitting in front of you, and we’re going to follow that blueprint... That’s really going to be a key to what you see as time goes on"
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in other words, "HELL NO"

quote from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers beat writer Stephen Holder.
http://twitter.com/#!/HolderStephen
 
I'd be willing to spend $5 mil of Bob's money and give up a low pick for busting the cap to get Aso. I'm of the opinion that he is this generation's version of Prime Time w/o all the BS. To compare signing him to Haynesworth or just about any other high profile FA bust is disingenuous. Aso has been nothing short of a model citizen in an organization known for showboats, malcontents and rebels without a clue. His down side is miniscule as it is. Compare it to his upside and it's a no-brainer. There is simply no other player in the NFL, short of Revis, that could impact our team as much as Aso. I'm including any QB's you want to throw in, also.
 
DocBar said:
I'd be willing to spend $5 mil of Bob's money and give up a low pick for busting the cap to get Aso. I'm of the opinion that he is this generation's version of Prime Time w/o all the BS. To compare signing him to Haynesworth or just about any other high profile FA bust is disingenuous. Aso has been nothing short of a model citizen in an organization known for showboats, malcontents and rebels without a clue. His down side is miniscule as it is. Compare it to his upside and it's a no-brainer. There is simply no other player in the NFL, short of Revis, that could impact our team as much as Aso. I'm including any QB's you want to throw in, also.
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I'd be willing to spend $5 mil of Bob's money as well :fingergun:
 
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/206997/football-headlines?r=1

The Newark Star-Ledger confirms the Jets have "reached out" to free agent Nnamdi Asomugha.
This comes on the heels of an earlier report from ESPN's Adam Schefter that the Jets plan to "make a run at" Asomugha to pair him with Darrelle Revis. Multiple reports suggest Asomugha is willing to leave money on the table to sign with playoff contender, and Rex Ryan's squad fits the bill. Asomugha also has designs on an acting career, which may give the Jets yet another edge
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DocBar said:
I'd be willing to spend $5 mil of Bob's money and give up a low pick for busting the cap to get Aso. I'm of the opinion that he is this generation's version of Prime Time w/o all the BS. To compare signing him to Haynesworth or just about any other high profile FA bust is disingenuous. Aso has been nothing short of a model citizen in an organization known for showboats, malcontents and rebels without a clue. His down side is miniscule as it is. Compare it to his upside and it's a no-brainer. There is simply no other player in the NFL, short of Revis, that could impact our team as much as Aso. I'm including any QB's you want to throw in, also.
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Did you miss the part about the league voiding the contract or are you ignoring that bit? This isn't the NBA with a luxury tax penalty, it's the NFL with the same hard cap it has had for some 20 years now. If your team is pushed above the cap by signing a player, the league will not approve it and he will never join the team until you lose some salary.
 
Cjeremy635 said:
It's all over but the cryin' folks. I just can't see him choosing us over the Jets. Defensive players love Rex and that is a big market. You pair him with Revis and that is a sick tandem, the sickest in the league.
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I still dont get how the Jets can sign him, even for a tad less than what is expected, with all their own FA's they have to sign. Are they going to completely compromise their offense for ONE CB?
 
I also find it very hard to believe the Jets could sign him. I think Baltimore and Philly have better shots, although I don't think either team wants him too bad.
 
DX-TEX said:
I still dont get how the Jets can sign him, even for a tad less than what is expected, with all their own FA's they have to sign. Are they going to completely compromise their offense for ONE CB?
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The other thing to consider is the Jets had trouble generating a pass rush without blitzing. That was when they had Ellis. If they bank on rooks and lower level FAs to supply the pass rush, not even a duo of Nmandi and Revis will save them from teams exploiting holes in the middle of the field.
 
Dutchrudder said:
Did you miss the part about the league voiding the contract or are you ignoring that bit? This isn't the NBA with a luxury tax penalty, it's the NFL with the same hard cap it has had for some 20 years now. If your team is pushed above the cap by signing a player, the league will not approve it and he will never join the team until you lose some salary.
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I'm in wishful/hopeful thinking mode and ignored that little clause for the purpose of my fantasy. Don't you judge me. :wild:
 
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