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The Nnamdi Asomugha Thread

badboy said:
This is what some are forgetting in comparing 2-3 players to Aso. You have no guarantee we could sign all of the others in any comparison. If you get Nnamdi, he is in the bag, if you sign Weddle for example, we still have to sign another CB.
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Plus, guys see a guy like Nnamdi sign here, and then the rest are like "okay these Texans aren't playing around anymore. Let me give them some serious consideration. " That would make a statement.
 
DX-TEX said:
I would put more credence into this if Scheftfer was reporting it. I lost a lot of repspect for Mort with the garbage he kept tweeting during the lockout.
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Schefter confirmed pretty much the same thing on NFL Live that it's down to NYJ and us.
 
Ryan said:
Schefter confirmed pretty much the same thing on NFL Live that it's down to NYJ and us.
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When did this happen? Why wasnt I informed? Come on people support me here. We are through the looking glass! I need vids STAT!
 
hobie said:
It's funny that now all of a sudden with the lockout over.. all this Nnamdi talk going on.. I don't recall reading much of it the last few months, but the "talk" that he is high on the Texans list and that "he" might come here has sure seemed to get ya'lls panties wet...

Continue on !!!
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You just need to visit board more often. Not knocking you but it would be like you having the opportunity to get your favorite anything, car, boat, plane, train, girlfriend, or job that you thought would take you to heights you have only dreamed about. I don't wear panties, but the hope he may sign and takes us to the Super Bowl is very exciting for those of us who enjoy football.
 
badboy said:
You just need to visit board more often. Not knocking you but it would be like you having the opportunity to get your favorite anything, car, boat, plane, train, girlfriend, or job that you thought would take you to heights you have only dreamed about. I don't wear panties, but the hope he may sign and takes us to the Super Bowl is very exciting for those of us who enjoy football.
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You serious?? Visit more often.. heck, I have been on here since day 1, back when it was the official board over at HT.com !! This offseason I stayed off for reasons of the lockout because there was too much speculation over stuff that nobody knew anything about and the crap that was coming from ESPN and the NFLN !! Until it was over, it wasn't over !
 
Rey said:
No. You were talking about how teams would scheme against him. That in itself is bogus, because qb's would still go after him. Not as much as the second or third corner but he would get his fair share of throws at him.

Also, even if he has completely shut down a receiver how is that not beneficial to the team as a whole?

Why allocate resources that way when you have a player that is interested in you that would elevate the play of the entire defense?

You would rather bank on getting two or three solid players rather than getting one franchise guy?

When your plan backfires and one or two of the guys you are targeting goes elsewhere then what? Just pick from the leftovers.

That makes no sense to me. You have the top rated player at his position, and it's a position we sorely need and you want to pass him over for Eric weddle and tier 3 corner?

If the money is not outrageous you stretch your pockets a bit and go for the stars. And you know the corny saying. . If you miss then you Langdon the moon.

Allocating resources is just code for being good in a few places while not being great at any. We have a lot of good on this team. It'd be nice to have some greatness.
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Is it just me, or does Eric Weddle as a Safety make me have the same "meh" feelings as I have for Ike Taylor as a CB?

I feel like both those guys are benefiting from superior secondary play that's happening AROUND them. Isolate them off, onto the Texans secondary, and I don't know that they're all that great here.

I dunno. I have a feeling the Jets or Ravens will land Aso. I have a feeling the best scenario we're going to end up with is a CB/S combo of some sort, and it will probably be guys we've never even discussed on here much. It might even be guys who are cut, so those teams can make room for the Ike Taylors or the Josephs or the Aso's of the NFL, and we get the cut casualties.

And as I sit here and read all of you guys' thoughts, it can't just be as simplistic as either (a) Aso and that's it, nor (b) A CB--Taylor or Joseph--and a Safety (Weddle). There's no telling what we're going to see. Amobi might still be here, for all we know. There's no specific rhyme or reason, IMO.

I suggest everybody scale back their emotional investment into these types of threads the day before free agency hits. You're going to want to go for a long walk, clear your head of the past 6 months of speculation, and be ready to see what we DO end up with the day of free agency.

I, for one, am just glad that we have football back in the first place. I'd rather root for a Nnamdi-less or Weddle-less Texans team than to have no team to root for at all.

Lots of people are going to drink a beer on free agency day, and I think they're going to spit the beer out. Call me crazy, but there's so many various options the Texans can pursue--and it might not even be on defense!--and the expectations should probably return to planet earth.

I, for one, pledge to all of you that MY panties won't be in a wad. Just like last season, when I knew we were going to tank it and suck the rest of the way out, I had already prepared myself for the letdown. Some of you kept riding the Right Track Express, though, getting out your nifty Bob McNair collector's edition Playoff Calculators to try and figure out what combinations of wins and losses we needed to sneak into the wildcard berth.

Just like then, I have been training myself these past few days with ninja focus...slowing down my heart rate and preparing for the day when we are either underwhelmed or treated to a different avenue than what we spent 6 months speculating about.

Just like in Cool Hand Luke, you gotta' get yore mind right. You were warned. :)
 
GP said:
Is it just me, or does Eric Weddle as a Safety make me have the same "meh" feelings as I have for Ike Taylor as a CB?

I feel like both those guys are benefiting from superior secondary play that's happening AROUND them. Isolate them off, onto the Texans secondary, and I don't know that they're all that great here.

I dunno. I have a feeling the Jets or Ravens will land Aso. I have a feeling we're going to end up with a CB/S combo of some sort, and it will probably be guys we've never even discussed on here much.

It can be as simplistic as either (a) Aso and that's it, nor (b) A CB--Taylor Joseph--and a Safety (Weddle).

I suggest everybody scale back they're emotional investment into these types of threads the day before free agency hits. You're going to want to go for a long walk, clear your head of the past 6 months of speculation, and be ready to see what we DO end up with the day of free agency.

I, for one, am just glad that we have football back in the first place. I'd rather root for a Nnamdi-less or Weddle-less Texans team than to have no team to root for at all.

Lots of people are going to drink a beer on free agency day, and I think they're going to spit the beer out. Call me crazy, but there's so many various options the Texans can pursue--and it might not even be on defense!--and the expectations should probably return to planet earth.

I, for one, pledge to all of you that MY panties won't be in a wad. Just like last season, when I knew we were going to tank it and suck the rest of the way out, I had already prepared myself for the letdown. Some of you kept riding the Right Track Express, though, getting out your nifty Bob McNair collector's edition Playoff Calculators to try and figure out what combinations of wins and losses we needed to seek into the wildcard berth. Just like then, I have been training myself with ninja focus...preparing for the day when we are either underwhelmed or treated to a different avenue than what we spent 6 months speculating.

Just like in Cool Hand Luke, you gotta' get yore mind right.
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Well played Sir !!!
 
SheTexan said:
The TEXANS can offer him the best deal, AJ can BEG him to come, and the fans can salivate until they drown, BUT, you can't make the man sign on the dotted line!!

To some of you guys who think the game of football will come to an end for the Texans IF we don't sign him, what ya gonna do then?? Blame Daddy Bob for being cheap? Hang RS up by his balls? Invent new cuss words to use against the Texans franchise? IMHO the man will sign with WHO he really wants to play for, and it just might not be us! If it was all about the money he would stay with the Raiders. :includeme:
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Well after last season I was on my last nerve with Texans and considering giving up like I have with Astros and perhaps soon with Rockets. Signing Phillips mollified me a bit and the draft was very good for me. Now if I find out we did not go strong after the best FA in years that fills a huge hole, then I will be knocked back a few steps. Then it would be on a game by game evaluation. Sort of like being married to a drunk for years who kept talking about potential and being committed to fixing our problems yet my costs keep going up and the sex ain't that great. I am about to the point of filing for a divorce from my last addiction, Texans ball.
 
This could be a bad sign for Texans getting Aso.

Quarterback Mark Sanchez is willing to put it all on the line -- even his paycheck -- if it means the New York Jets will have a better chance to win.

With NFL teams working under a lower salary cap, the third-year player said he already has had discussions about reworking his contract if it helps to make the Jets stronger as free agency begins.

"Absolutely, and my agent's already talked to me about it," Sanchez said. "Whatever we need to do to win, it's on. I think our whole team feels that way, (Darrelle) Revis, me, whoever, it doesn't matter."

In 2009, Sanchez signed a five-year deal with the Jets that included $28 million in guaranteed money, with incentives making the deal potentially worth $60 million. With the 2011 salary cap now at $120 million per team, restructuring Sanchez's contract would give the Jets the ability to spend more to acquire or re-sign free agents this season.

Sanchez may not have to take a pay cut. Depending on the fine print of a new collective bargaining agreement, Sanchez could have some portion of his base salary of $13.5 million converted into a signing bonus, which would be pro-rated and be less of a hit against the salary cap.

Sources told ESPNNewYork.com's Rich Cimini that it is not clear if the NFL will allow Sanchez, who has only two years of service time under his belt, to restructure his deal.
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DX-TEX said:
When did this happen? Why wasnt I informed? Come on people support me here. We are through the looking glass! I need vids STAT!
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I'm trying to remain calm here and not get my hopes up like i have one too many times with this organization.
 
hobie said:
You serious?? Visit more often.. heck, I have been on here since day 1, back when it was the official board over at HT.com !! This offseason I stayed off for reasons of the lockout because there was too much speculation over stuff that nobody knew anything about and the crap that was coming from ESPN and the NFLN !! Until it was over, it wasn't over !
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Yes, I'm serious. Maybe you just lurk and read but your post count for an "old timer" doesn't do much for your position. Anyway, you keep saying you are not interested in much until the deed is done. Okay, that is your right. Come back later but do not make fun of us that are involved and interested now.
 
Great players win championships.

Aso is a great player.

If the Texans need more players like Aso.

See how simple that is.
 
badboy said:
Yes, I'm serious. Maybe you just lurk and read but your post count for an "old timer" doesn't do much for your position. Anyway, you keep saying you are not interested in much until the deed is done. Okay, that is your right. Come back later but do not make fun of us that are involved and interested now.
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What does post count have to do with anything?? Some people post a ton in the NSZ...not much into the football side of things.... Having 10000000 posts doesn't make anyone more of a regular than the next guy....
Sheesh... there has to be more going on to get worked up over a FA coming or not to the Texans.. if you have been a fan of the Texans long enough, you know speculating on ANYTHING regarding people coming here is .... well, you should know by know what I was going to say !!
But I do appreciate your enthusiasm about it....... I really do !!
 
TheMatrix31 said:
No biggie on the restructuring. I'm sure players on our team will be more than willing to restructure as well.
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If you are a member of the Texans and the team comes to you and says, hey, we need to restructure your deal to get the best corner in the game here and you say "nope", you're not that interested in winning and you need to go.

I know, a few exceptions and depends on the amount... I'm aware... but if your name is Mario, Andre, Brian, Demeco etc.. you need to go because clearly you're not that committed to winning.

Mike
 
hobie said:
What does post count have to do with anything?? Some people post a ton in the NSZ...not much into the football side of things.... Having 10000000 posts doesn't make anyone more of a regular than the next guy....
Sheesh... there has to be more going on to get worked up over a FA coming or not to the Texans.. if you have been a fan of the Texans long enough, you know speculating on ANYTHING regarding people coming here is .... well, you should know by know what I was going to say !!
But I do appreciate your enthusiasm about it....... I really do !!
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Post count and rep determine the quality of the poster, you know that... wtf is wrong with you.:kitten::spin:

Oh, and smiley usage. We should institute a smiley counter.

Mike
 
Rex Ryan is a weird dude, but for some reason he has been able to get his players to follow him to the gates of hell.

If the Jets land Aso, I think it makes them a 3-to-4-year Super Bowl favorite every one of those years. It could make them a dynasty.

I'm not all that impressed with Sanchez as a PURE QB, but yet the guy will straight up ice your ass if you don't get to him in time. Plus, as vocal as he has been about doing whatever it takes to win...he's constantly putting himself out there as a guy who is very anti-Leinart. Which means he's nothing but football 24-7-365.

It's hard to root against a guy like Sanchez. Very Favre-ish in lots of ways.

He stomped our ass in his first ever NFL game, too, IIRC. STOMPED.
 
Texanmike said:
Post count and rep determine the quality of the poster, you know that... wtf is wrong with you.:kitten::spin:

Oh, and smiley usage. We should institute a smiley counter.

Mike
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Damn.. I should go the route of the forbidden one ( E**E).... and beg for rep. by saying you rep me, I 'll hit ya back...For all old timers, you know what I am talking about... and I should neg rep myself for even bringing up that name !!

Smiley usage... ??

:ahhaha: :hurrah: :hobie: that's the ticket !!
 
hobie said:
Damn.. I should go the route of the forbidden one ( E**E).... and beg for rep. by saying you rep me, I 'll hit ya back...For all old timers, you know what I am talking about... and I should neg rep myself for even bringing up that name !!

Smiley usage... ??

:ahhaha: :hurrah: :hobie: that's the ticket !!
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I don't think I was here for e**e... pm me the name lol.

Mike
 
hobie said:
Damn.. I should go the route of the forbidden one ( E**E).... and beg for rep. by saying you rep me, I 'll hit ya back...For all old timers, you know what I am talking about... and I should neg rep myself for even bringing up that name !!

Smiley usage... ??

:ahhaha: :hurrah: :hobie: that's the ticket !!
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:lol:
 
How much could his relationship with AJ effect his decision? Is it blown out of proportion?
 
GP said:
Rex Ryan is a weird dude, but for some reason he has been able to get his players to follow him to the gates of hell.

If the Jets land Aso, I think it makes them a 3-to-4-year Super Bowl favorite every one of those years. It could make them a dynasty.

I'm not all that impressed with Sanchez as a PURE QB, but yet the guy will straight up ice your ass if you don't get to him in time. Plus, as vocal as he has been about doing whatever it takes to win...he's constantly putting himself out there as a guy who is very anti-Leinart. Which means he's nothing but football 24-7-365.

It's hard to root against a guy like Sanchez. Very Favre-ish in lots of ways.

He stomped our ass in his first ever NFL game, too, IIRC. STOMPED.
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I wouldn't go that far. 18/31, 8 ypc, 1 td, 1 int, 84.3 passer rating is not exactly stomping. The Jet D annihilated us that game. Sanchez managed the game well.
 
Texanmike said:
If you are a member of the Texans and the team comes to you and says, hey, we need to restructure your deal to get the best corner in the game here and you say "nope", you're not that interested in winning and you need to go.

I know, a few exceptions and depends on the amount... I'm aware... but if your name is Mario, Andre, Brian, Demeco etc.. you need to go because clearly you're not that committed to winning.

Mike
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This ^^^^^ times a bazillion.

Of course, DeMeco and Owen were running around like little girls, crying to the media and through their social media accounts about how they just HAD to have a new deal. Good luck with those two guys wanting to help out.

Andre would help out. I think he wants to win THAT badly. Of course, he might ask for a sweetheart year at the end of his career to make up for it.

I doubt Mario would. If our defense had a better secondary, we could put pressure on him...but unfortunately he's not holding the shitty end of the stick right now. He can say "No," and not get released or traded for it. That's my bet.

Actually, I think there's just not the level of desire with the Texans that you see with the Jets. After Mangini went and Tuberville'd the Jets, that club got its act together FAST! Incredibly fast, actually.

I'm very impressed with the recent decision-making by both the Packers and the Jets. Their fans are loving life right now.
 
Doppelganger said:
I wouldn't go that far. 18/31, 8 ypc, 1 td, 1 int, 84.3 passer rating is not exactly stomping. The Jet D annihilated us that game. Sanchez managed the game well.
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Well, you're right. I guess the beatdown we received from their defense caused me to over-value Sanchez's contribution in that game.

But hey, rookie go this first win on his first day on the job. On the road, too.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
This could be a bad sign for Texans getting Aso.

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Sanchez restructuring is important to the Jets so they can go after Santonio Holmes. They are about to lose Holmes, Edwards and Brad Smith to free agency, so if they need anything it's a #1 WR. They also may lose Cromartie, Shaun Ellis, and their kicker Nick Folk. They have a lot of work to do in this free agency.
 
Doppelganger said:
He did get a W. No taking that away. But at the risk of getting neg repped, this had a much bigger factor than Sanchez.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiJ9lYyj4uQ
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No hard feelings about that play, it was a monstrous move by Jenkins against Meyers, but I am glad that he just threw Schuab to the ground. If he had jumped on Schaub and rode him to the ground, I don't think Matt would have played the rest of that game. Good on Kris for not being a bloodthirsty crazy guy trying to injure opponents.
 
fiasco west said:
That reminds me...I hope Kris takes most of the first preseason game off if he's playing. Don't know if the guy is injured or not right now.
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I think he said he's done.

EDIT: Yep. He's retired. Source: Wikipedia entry for Kris Jenkins...

New York Jets
On February 29, 2008, the Carolina Panthers traded Jenkins to the New York Jets for third- and fifth-round draft picks in the 2008 NFL Draft.[2] For much of his first season with the Jets, Jenkins was dominant and garnered heavy consideration for the NFL's Defensive Player of the Year award. On Sunday October 18, 2009, Jenkins left the game against the Buffalo Bills with a left knee injury. He was officially lost for the season the next day with a torn ACL.[3] On September 13, 2010 Kris Jenkins again tore his ACL in a game against the Baltimore Ravens, which ended his season for the second time in a row.[4]

The Jets released Jenkins on February 28, 2011.[5]

Retirement
Jenkins announced his retirement from football on July 20, 2011.[6]
 
GP said:
Of course, DeMeco and Owen were running around like little girls, crying to the media and through their social media accounts about how they just HAD to have a new deal. Good luck with those two guys wanting to help out.
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You and I both know that DeMeco deserved a contract more than just about anybody and had he not gotten that contract pre-injury there's a good chance he'd be walking right about now.
 
GP said:
I think he said he's done.

EDIT: Yep. He's retired. Source: Wikipedia entry for Kris Jenkins...

New York Jets
On February 29, 2008, the Carolina Panthers traded Jenkins to the New York Jets for third- and fifth-round draft picks in the 2008 NFL Draft.[2] For much of his first season with the Jets, Jenkins was dominant and garnered heavy consideration for the NFL's Defensive Player of the Year award. On Sunday October 18, 2009, Jenkins left the game against the Buffalo Bills with a left knee injury. He was officially lost for the season the next day with a torn ACL.[3] On September 13, 2010 Kris Jenkins again tore his ACL in a game against the Baltimore Ravens, which ended his season for the second time in a row.[4]

The Jets released Jenkins on February 28, 2011.[5]

Retirement
Jenkins announced his retirement from football on July 20, 2011.[6]
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Wow must have missed that. Sucks to see constant injuries bring a player down like that.
 
Ryan said:
You and I both know that DeMeco deserved a contract more than just about anybody and had he not gotten that contract pre-injury there's a good chance he'd be walking right about now.
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Ryans walking would be a bad thing?

He been the leader of a terrible defense for 5 yrs now.
 
steelbtexan said:
Ryans walking would be a bad thing?

He been the leader of a terrible defense for 5 yrs now.
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One of the few bright spots on this team since 06. I'm excited to see what he can do with a competent DC that knows how to put people in the right position. :wadepalm:
 
Ryan said:
You and I both know that DeMeco deserved a contract more than just about anybody and had he not gotten that contract pre-injury there's a good chance he'd be walking right about now.
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Well, I guess Rick Smith would have looked like a psychic had he NOT caved in on the demands. Everybody was saying Rick Smith was a turd for waiting so long, but in reality had he waited it out...he would have been in the right.

I can't remember of OD got his new contract before or after his own big injury. If he got it before the knee injury in the Bills game, then that's another one that we could say "See, make them play out their contract first."

Am I excited that a Texans player got a contract before blowing his achilles? Not really.

I was more than fine with it when Domanick Davis (Williams now) did, but that was mostly because he was the only producer on the field besides AJ...and I felt he ground himself into the turf for us.

But yet I never saw the level of whinery with DD that I saw with 'Meco. In fact, Domanick actually went away quietly. Kubiak visited him, trying to see if he'd try and come back. Nope. Done.

Besides, DeMeco had a bad shoulder before the achilles blew. He wasn't the same guy two years ago, and then he had the achilles this past year. I can't sit here and say his departure would spell doom for us. Sorry if that comes off as being ignorant of football facts or not. Just not intrigued anymore.

This is not a charity league. I've grown past the sentimental feelings stage once David Carr and Dunta Robinson banked it big for like zero ROI for us.
 
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