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The Johnny "Football" Manziel NFL thread

infantrycak said:
Lol - you go to WeHo for one of two things. Let's give him hard core partying.
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I had to consult Google to find out about this WeHo place.
Short answer: West Hollywood is to LA as Montrose is to Houston.
NIGHTLIFE
los angeles' young and fabulous spend their nights in west hollywood, a center of urban nightlife since the "roaring twenties." wild gay bars, trendy lounges, rock-and-roll dives and exclusive private clubs offer unique experiences on every city block, drawing a glamorous crowd from around the world.
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Rosenhaus has said that Manziel has left california for Texas. PFT has said that may be a good sign for Manziel. But I wonder if this doesn't have something to do with another recent event involving poor judgement...........

Report: Johnny Manziel passenger in alleged hit and run
By Greg Rajan
Published 4:09 pm, Wednesday, April 13, 2016


Johnny Manziel's offseason exploits now include reportedly being a passenger in a vehicle that struck a light pole and then fleeing on foot.

Johnny Manziel's headline-grabbing offseason now reportedly includes a car accident.

TMZ reported Wednesday that Manziel was a passenger in a vehicle that allegedly hit a light pole and then fled the scene in Hollywood over the weekend.

According to the report, Manziel, the 2012 Heisman Trophy winner at Texas A&M, was interviewed by Los Angeles police about the crash, which occurred on the Sunset Strip around 10:45 p.m. Saturday.

TMZ reported that police believe Ryan Silverstein, a good friend of Manziel's and a member of rapper Drake's entourage, was the driver.

Per a law enforcement source, police suspect Silverstein and Manziel left the scene on foot after the crash and were picked up by Manziel's former Cleveland Browns teammate Josh Gordon.
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And I wouldn't be surprised if Manziel was actually the driver and knew that this time he better turn to a member of his "posse" (Silverstein) to take the hit. This could have been the last straw for Rosenhaus.
 
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Manziel was reportedly just off camera in this recent Farmer's Ins. commercial
 
Evidently, TMZ, not Manziel or his "posse" reported the incident to the police. There is no time table of how long these two were absent from the scene before Gordon finally drove them back to the scene. If it were a significant period of time, you have to ask yourself if Manziel (who I'm still not convinced wasn't the driver) tried to use that time to sober up before the police became involved.
 
MightyTExan said:
it's been interesting watching this train wreck.
I just hope this idiot doesn't take out any innocent people while his life is swirling down the drain.
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Yeah, I think this is the way he's always been so I don't care one way or another if he finds helps or redeems himself. If he gets his life in order good for him. If he hurts someone then he should pay the consequences because he did it to himself. I do hope he doesn't hurt anyone but himself if he keeps going down this road.

It's bad enough when you are not a decent person to begin with without parents that raised you right but when you surround yourself with blood sucking leaches like his so called friends then there is no hope. This guy is in trouble. Even if he is just a party boy that doesn't care about being in the NFL one of these leaches is going to burn him eventually.
 
The condition of entering treatment was not a spontaneous decision on the part of Rosenhaus.

Rosenhaus said that from the beginning, his agreement with Manziel ‎was contingent on the quarterback entering a treatment facility, which he has consistently refused to do.
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Just proves how hopeless this idiot is.
 
This is after the cocaine allegations.

Rosenhaus: Johnny Manziel hasn’t made steps toward treatment
Posted by Josh Alper on April 15, 2016, 8:10 AM EDT

On Wednesday, agent Drew Rosenhaus said that he would terminate his working relationship with Johnny Manziel unless the erstwhile Browns quarterback took the “necessary steps” to get his life back on track over the next five days.

There’s still time left before that deadline, but Rosenhaus isn’t optimistic that Manziel will take his advice. Rosenhaus appeared as a guest on PFT Live with Mike Florio on Friday (today) and said he doesn’t think he and Manziel are “on the same page” about what the quarterback needs to do in order to get himself moving in the right direction personally and professionally.


“Unfortunately there hasn’t been any movement toward getting help or seeking treatment that I’m aware of,” Rosenhaus said. “I’m trying diligently to recommend this to Johnny. I’m not the first one, certainly not the only one. There are a lot of friends and family and people that want the best for this young man. He’s got a plan, it’s just different than the one he and I talked about and what I would recommend to him.”

Assuming things don’t change and Rosenhaus moves on, it will make two agents that have opted not to continue working with Manziel this offseason. The Browns made the same choice, of course, and it continues to seem clear that Manziel’s football future is nothing more than a hypothetical until he starts making different decisions away from the field.
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thunderkyss said:
Again, I think I watch as much NFLNetwork as the next guy, espin too... I don't think I've seen a Manziel story as often as y'all are portraying.

But whatever.

& the thing about him being stupid... like I said, this kid has options & the NFL doesn't appear at the top of his list.

If a guy decided to pursue a life in the ministry, military, or public service, would we call him stupid?

We've got guys retiring after relatively short careers, are we calling them stupid,

johnny doesn't want an NFL career... so what.
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Manziel story on NFLN last night and this morning. Four different local radio shows talking about him today.

You cannot get away from this TMZ-driven crap. NBA playoffs about to start, NFL draft in a couple of weeks, MLB season just started...and yet some goofy little runt is what radio hosts want to talk about. Go figure.

Time to jam the metal. :headbang:
 
Well plan on him being in Austin this weekend - it's Reggae fest,

JB, my daughter has a couch if need be. Elvis tends to chew (he doesn't do much damage, just kind of a gnawing thing - imagine JJ eating a chicken wing)- you'd be safer over there. And she has a cute roommate.

Not that I'd try to distract you/aka not shoot you.

Bear is so safe because she has disdain (and a Kershaw springblade - she asked for that as her Christmas present).
 
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The accident, being picked up by Gordon, drugs and alcohol, trashing the house...............pieces coming together...........


A person identifying himself as Josh Gordon was with Johnny Manziel at trashed party home, rental agent says

By Mary Kay Cabot, Cleveland.com
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on April 15, 2016 at 8:01 PM, updated April 15, 2016 at 8:02 PM
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CLEVELAND, Ohio — A person identifying himself as Josh Gordon was with Johnny Manziel at a rented home in the Hollywood Hills area of Los Angeles last week that was damaged, with alcohol and what appeared to be drugs readily visible, the owner of the rental agency told cleveland.com on Friday.

Nicholas Goodwin said he never saw Gordon or Manziel doing drugs or drinking, but he said he saw what appeared to be cocaine on a table and other substances that appeared to be mushrooms and marijuana when the two were in the home, where two days of partying took place.

Gordon had his petition for reinstatement to the NFL from his drug ban denied on Tuesday, a day after a report surfaced that he failed a drug test in March. He can reapply for reinstatement Aug. 1, and his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said he is confident that Gordon will be reinstated this time around. Rosenhaus, who recently took on Manziel as a client, is instead in the process of dropping him.

Manziel has been served with a legal demand for almost $32,000 in damages and fees for the multi-million-dollar home, according to Goodwin, who owns LA Exotic Life rental agency and rented the home to Manziel April 4-6.

The New York Post first reported that Manziel is in jeopardy of being sued and published photos of the damage, including what appeared to be illegal drugs in the home.

The troubled former Browns quarterback's week began with the two nights of parties at the house. It ended with him being a passenger in an accident in which the car — especially the passenger side — was badly mangled, according to photos obtained by TMZ Sports. The site also reported that Gordon picked Manziel up at the scene of the crash Saturday night after Manziel and the driver, Ryan Silverstein, returned to the vehicle.

The two initially had fled by foot after hitting a light pole, according to TMZ Sports.
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BTW, Rosenhaus saying he is confident that Gordon will be reinstated this time around?????
 
As Sean Pendergast put it in The Houston Press, "When Drew Rosenhaus and Josh Gordon are the shining lights of reason in your life, the ship is headed straight for the glacier."
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
This video commentary explains the concussion incident at the end of last year that made no sense to me and others...........The Browns essentially made the concussion story up.............Manziel Showed Up Drunk At Practice.
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Well like I've said I don't think he has it in him to want to straighten out his life and blood sucking leaches gravitate toward him. That's what is in his corner. And he doesn't have the balls to grow up or listen to adults offering advice and help. This guy is going to find himself in a situation where money and college greatness can't bail him out of. I don't think he'll end up being the scum that Aaron Hernandez is but he definitely not in control of his own life.
 
It's now official, Rosenhaus has permanently dropped Manziel.

and......the Dallas Grand Jury has decided to take up the misdemeanor assault case.
 
Johnny Manziel and Josh Gordon were at the clubs last night, ordering vodka and red bull. Not a care in the world. They look "chill" to me.

 
From PFT:
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Manziel releases statement, says he’ll focus on trying to return to NFL
Posted by Zac Jackson on April 19, 2016, 7:10 PM EDT


He’s partied his way out of a job and out of multiple relationships with people who represented him, but Johnny Manziel still has a spokesperson — and apparently still has plans to return to the NFL.

“I’m hoping to take care of the issues in front of me right now so I can focus on what I have to do if I want to play in 2016,” Manziel said in a statement provided to multiple outlets on Tuesday. “I also continue to be thankful to those who really know me and support me.”

Earlier Tuesday, agent Drew Rosenhaus officially terminated his representation of Manziel because he said Manziel didn’t hold his end of their deal and seek treatment for whatever issues he’s battling. Also Tuesday, it was announced that evidence against Manziel from a January incident in which he’s accused of striking his ex-girlfriend will go to a grand jury on Thursday.

The Browns released Manziel last month. He was dumped by agent Erik Burkhardt and LRMR, LeBron James’ marketing company, earlier last winter.

Though he spent around 10 weeks last offseason in a treatment center, it’s not clear what issues Manziel has besides an addiction to attention. It’s also unclear how much or what he would have to change for an NFL team to be willing to take a chance on him, but if any team is still listening/reading, this statement indicates he’s willing to try.

“So many people only have one image of Jonathan but, believe it or not, he takes all this very seriously,” Denise Michaels, Manziel’s spokesperson, said. “He’s hoping that he can clear up his personal issues, start interviewing agents and see what he needs to do if he wants to play this year.”
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He needs a spokesperson???!!!! I guess so for when he's drunk or high and can't get words out that make sense...........which seems to be most of the time.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
From PFT:
...“I’m hoping to take care of the issues in front of me right now so I can focus on what I have to do if I want to play in 2016,” Manziel said in a statement provided to multiple outlets on Tuesday. “I also continue to be thankful to those who really know me and support me.”...
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aka "Lord, if you just get me through this, I promise I'll never (abuse of choice) again" followed by "...this time I really mean it...."
 
Johnny is in a death spiral. And that's not hyperbole. He refuses to get help and he continues to drive under the influence.
OzzO said:
aka "Lord, if you just get me through this, I promise I'll never (abuse of choice) again" followed by "...this time I really mean it...."
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It's like the Burt Reynolds movie The End. Please Lord make me a better swimmer and I'll give you 75% of everything I have.

Manziel needs to quit football before it quits him. I've been down this path in my own life. Alcohol and drugs started to chip away at what I thought I was capable of. And the whole way I was begging for a rebound, thinking that "oh, if I only drink on the weekends I can get back to where I once was", a director of a fortune 500 company. That didn't work, so I thought I could get back into management, it's less stressful. But the stress was still there, and I continued to drink. Work was harder because of it. Before long, within 6 years of being a Director with a new wife and son I was residing in a non-profit rehab facility. Starting all over. I could have saved a lot of time, money and relationships had I just gone into a rehab facility years before end stage liver disease and hepatic encephalopothy.

I'm empathetic towards Manziel. He has something I didn't have which is a monetary advantage but had I had that, likely I wouldn't be alive. I think if he doesn't straighten up soon, he's going to be dead.
 
banned1976 said:
I have had 2 liver transplants and I continue to drink and have stopped Prgraf and Cellsept. for 5 months. To the Dox, how long do I have to live?
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I don't want to have this thread hijacked. But I will leave you with some thoughts.

Without knowing your history of what caused the 1st transplant failure and the timing of your 2 transplants and if the removal of your anti-rejection medications was gradual (under physician's monitoring) or abrupt, or to know your recent laboratory values (especially your liver function tests, it would be impossible to even hazard a guess as to when your body calls it quits.

Surprisingly, over the first 3-5 years, survival rates of those that go back to moderate drinking demonstrate only 30% mortality, but after that it can quickly reach 50% depending on various factors, and certainly more as time goes on.

As far as discontinuing your rejection meds, implications can be much more severe. If it done progressively over a very long period of time with careful monitoring and with maintaining stabilization of clinical and laboratory testing, patients have been known to survive 10-15 years (typically in patients that have also practiced abstinence). If done abruptly or over too short a period of time, it is a matter of playing Russian roulette, the end could come quickly.

Pneumonia/heart failure/liver failure/cancer/respiratory failure are the most common reasons that causes death in non-compliant liver transplant patient.
 
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