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The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK & REPLACEMENT thread

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And a lot of people left early and missed out an exciting game, LOL

The score board was screwed up. Some people didn't know we were going to overtime. They thought we lost when we missed that field goal. The people next to me came back halfway through OT. Said he didn't know.
 
I saw it coming. As soon as AJ caught that ball into FG territory, I knew Kubes was gonna go ultra conservative. Why not keep attacking for a better percentage FG? We had 2 timeouts. I know I wasn't the only one who saw that coming. Someone back me up here. Settling for a long FG even pre-false start.

That we made the FG (the pre-false start one) tells me it was the right strategy.

By the way, what would you have called? End zone shot? Stretch play? Screen? Did you NOT see the Jags going back into deep zone protecting against the deep ball? What would you have called?
 
That we made the FG (the pre-false start one) tells me it was the right strategy.

By the way, what would you have called? End zone shot? Stretch play? Screen? Did you NOT see the Jags going back into deep zone protecting against the deep ball? What would you have called?

If I was coach we would have been up by 3 touchdowns.
 
Even with two turnovers leading to points prior to that ? Along with the two missed FG's ?!


Buddy Ryan punched Kevin Gilbride over the chuck and duck .... He'd probably hug Gary for his offense.


This team is 9-1 ..... and won an overtime game where:

They lost the turnover battle including one deep in their end of the field.

The defense gave up three plays of 63 yards or more

Gave up three TD's on third down and long

Had two missed FG's ... one made taken away by a penalty

Has a two game lead on everyone in the conference for home field thru-out the playoffs .....

And people still wanna complain about Kubiak.


Is your wonderlic lower than this guy's -----> :vincepalm:


Some of you will complain if his team wins the Superbowl ....
 
Some of you will complain if his team wins the Superbowl ....

& some guys won't complain if his team doesn't.

At no time during the game did I ever think.... "damn, we suck!!" or Gary sucks, or anything like that. I thought, "Those Jags are playing inspired football."

They didn't make any mistakes until late in the 4th. They protected their QB. They mixed up their play calls, they had enough movement on Defense to make Schaub rethink his pre-snap reads.

It wasn't like we were playing sloppy football, we were doing what we always did & dammit, a division team didn't fall for the rope-a-dope.

At the same time, we saw some of our limitations.
  1. Arian Foster falls down with minimal contact.
  2. Forsett didn't seem to have a problem running to the right
  3. Owen Daniels is our deep threat
  4. If it's not Jj Watt getting it done, it's not getting done
  5. Kareem got beat by a physical freak

I know we want to use the excuse that the right side of our line just isn't gelling, but both Forsett & Foster was able to get through holes on the right side as well as the left side. We're just not seeing those big plays out of the running game that we're used to. I really don't know why not. Receivers not blocking downfield?? But I'm convinced something's wrong with Arian. minimal contact is bringing him down. I'd love to have seen Ben Tate in that game last night.

We're 10 games into the season. Why isn't LeStar Jean or Keshawn Martin integrated into our regular offense? Why are we predominately coming out in 3+ TE sets?? Garrett Graham had an awesome game, & we make teams cover the field from sideline to sideline. But we are not stretching the field.

I was impressed with our defense stopping the run. Again, the score did not take away the run game. There was a couple of big plays in their run game, but for the most part I was impressed.

Antonio Smith played a great game. But, we still need him to finish. There's a big difference between getting hurried/rushed & getting hit. If you hit the QB, he's flustered the next time you hurry/rush him. If you're just getting in his face now & then... he's laughing at you as he completes 76 yard bombs for TDs. We need someone other than Jj Watt to get it done on a regular basis. Connor Barwin... where you at? It's silly to ask JjWatt to do any more, but that front seven has to deliver.

Without the pass rush, our secondary is suspect..... I don't think any more than anyone else's secondary, but with Jjo battling injury all year long, we're in deep doo-doo if someone other than Jj Watt doesn't step up.


I don't believe there is an excuse to still be struggling with some of these issues 10 weeks in, not stretching the field & Arian's vegan diet being the biggest issues.

At the same time, I never expected this team to be perfect...... just win baby.
 
Some of you will complain if his team wins the Superbowl ....
Super Bowl? Whaaaa!

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I saw that. What in the Hell are these people doing at the game anyway?

My theory was that people thought when J-ville kicked their last field goal that the game was over. The d-bag behind us insisted as much but, sadly, didn't leave.
 
I saw it coming. As soon as AJ caught that ball into FG territory, I knew Kubes was gonna go ultra conservative. Why not keep attacking for a better percentage FG? We had 2 timeouts. I know I wasn't the only one who saw that coming. Someone back me up here. Settling for a long FG even pre-false start.

Well, if you can't enjoy good football, at least you can enjoy good music.




Oh wait, nevermind...
 
I don't believe there is an excuse to still be struggling with some of these issues 10 weeks in, not stretching the field & Arian's vegan diet being the biggest issues.

At the same time, I never expected this team to be perfect...... just win baby.

There were at least 3 deep balls that I can count. Not sure how you think the passing game can get better. In the history of the nfl it has only been beter once.

About Arians diet - I am pretty sure Gary can't force him to eat meat.
 
From the gameday thread:

I wish Kubiak would run up the F'n middle some

kubiak get the fuk outtta here with this bullshyt

Play calling has been horrid

Horrible, predictable playcalling by Kubiak

OMG.

One yard short.

This is why Kubiak is a bad HC. ...

He really is a bad HC.

When do we see ANY good team with a "gaudy" record fold like this???? NEVER!!!!!!

I just don't get it. 11-1 and THIS is what we show up with??????????

Kubes, I never liked ya, never will.
 
He won't get fired.

Nothing will be done. Not even going to see Marciano get fired.

At this point, it wouldn't matter either way. This team is way too Kubiak-built to start over with a new guy at the wheel.
 
Nothing will happen. We've won our "franchise best" 11th game this year. We're going to the playoffs this year. We may still get home field advantage this year. Bob is happy and lets face fact, why wouldn't he be? Because we got annihilated by two great offenses this year? Big deal, games still sold out. Team is winning and we'll get em in the playoffs. That's what Bob thinks I'm sure.

I only remember once seeing a football team that could be successful while looking so bad at the same time and that was the Glanville/Pardee era Oilers. Stacked with talent and always coming up short in the important games. Always coming up short in the games that you would give anything to see them win in.

It just sucks all the give-a-damn out of your heart when they do this kind of thing and they do it so often that you never grow to trust them. You never really believe in them the way that Cowboys and Steelers fans in the 70's or 49er's fans in the 80's (or Patriots fans now) believe in their team. You always know that they're going to screw it up somehow or go on national television and become the laughing stock of the league when they get a chance to establish that they're legitimate. It's stomach churning. It's heart breaking. It's the Houston Texans. Even when they're winning regularly they can still manage to find a way to make you slightly embarrassed of them.
 
Nothing will happen. We've won our "franchise best" 11th game this year. We're going to the playoffs this year. We may still get home field advantage this year. Bob is happy and lets face fact, why wouldn't he be? Because we got annihilated by two great offenses this year? Big deal, games still sold out. Team is winning and we'll get em in the playoffs. That's what Bob thinks I'm sure.

I only remember once seeing a football team that could be successful while looking so bad at the same time and that was the Glanville/Pardee era Oilers. Stacked with talent and always coming up short in the important games. Always coming up short in the games that you would give anything to see them win in.

It just sucks all the give-a-damn out of your heart when they do this kind of thing and they do it so often that you never grow to trust them. You never really believe in them the way that Cowboys and Steelers fans in the 70's or 49er's fans in the 80's (or Patriots fans now) believe in their team. You always know that they're going to screw it up somehow or go on national television and become the laughing stock of the league when they get a chance to establish that they're legitimate. It's stomach churning. It's heart breaking. It's the Houston Texans. Even when they're winning regularly they can still manage to find a way to make you slightly embarrassed of them.

It's like poetry. That's perfectly worded. All of it.
 
So where is the All Encompassing FIRE WADE PHILLIPS thread?

Makes about as much sense as bumping this back to the top.

Just throw a brick into the TV and start worrying about the Colts.
 
I only remember once seeing a football team that could be successful while looking so bad at the same time and that was the Glanville/Pardee era Oilers. Stacked with talent and always coming up short in the important games. Always coming up short in the games that you would give anything to see them win in.

It just sucks all the give-a-damn out of your heart when they do this kind of thing and they do it so often that you never grow to trust them. You never really believe in them the way that Cowboys and Steelers fans in the 70's or 49er's fans in the 80's (or Patriots fans now) believe in their team. You always know that they're going to screw it up somehow or go on national television and become the laughing stock of the league when they get a chance to establish that they're legitimate. It's stomach churning. It's heart breaking. It's the Houston Texans. Even when they're winning regularly they can still manage to find a way to make you slightly embarrassed of them.

Rep. Whether people like to admit it out loud or not, they don't trust Kubiak. I welcome anyone to go dig through gameday threads and read all the in-the-moment comments blasting Kubiak, even in games that ended up as wins. People don't trust him because at the end of the day, humans have this highly developed ability to RECOGNIZE PATTERNS.
 
I rest my case about Kubiak.

The guy is just not at the level of the elite or even real good coaches of the league. He can't compete against them. The Belichick's, Coughlin's, etc will eat his lunch any day of the week.
 
So we get annihated by great qbs. So fire wade?

Well, Wade's been fired plenty, so I don't know that he's immune to any criticism either. But he hasn't been making the same mistakes here for almost 7 years, and he's not the one making the sorts of personnel decisions that are hurting this offense this year. He's not the one taking timeouts into the locker room, watching the clock tick down in critical situations, calling the same give-up plays on 3rd and long, and making weird personnel decisions on a week to week basis that leave you scratching your head.

So yeah, you can start a Fire Wade thread if you want. When he's shown the same failed tendencies for several years, I'll be on board, for sure.
 
I just find this thread funny.

If before the season started we all would take a 11-2 record at this point and We would be ****ting egg rolls

Look I don't like getting blown out again on Monday night and it is embarrassing but the season isn't over yet
 
I just find this thread funny.

I do too. It started THREE YEARS AGO, and the same screw-ups have been laid out for the duration of the thread, Kubiak does all the same screw ups he did back then and yet we still have fans who think he's good. It's hilarious, in a really sad sort of way.

And yeah, 11-2 means the season isn't over ... yet. But if you're best argument is the record, then you're ignoring in victory what you wouldn't in defeat.
 
I just find this thread funny.

If before the season started we all would take a 11-2 record at this point and We would be ****ting egg rolls

Look I don't like getting blown out again on Monday night and it is embarrassing but the season isn't over yet

No, it's not, however I would bet the farm that the Texans will never win a Super Bowl under Kubiak.

Despite their great run this season Kubiak has still been doing the same things this season that makes me not like him as a HC. I won't rehash it again since eriadoc has just summed it up nicely.
 
No, it's not, however I would bet the farm that the Texans will never win a Super Bowl under Kubiak.

Despite their great run this season Kubiak has still been doing the same things this season that makes me not like him as a HC. I won't rehash it again since eriadoc has just summed it up nicely.


Maybe so .. What coach do you want then?
 
Nothing will happen. We've won our "franchise best" 11th game this year. We're going to the playoffs this year. We may still get home field advantage this year. Bob is happy and lets face fact, why wouldn't he be? Because we got annihilated by two great offenses this year? Big deal, games still sold out. Team is winning and we'll get em in the playoffs. That's what Bob thinks I'm sure.

I only remember once seeing a football team that could be successful while looking so bad at the same time and that was the Glanville/Pardee era Oilers. Stacked with talent and always coming up short in the important games. Always coming up short in the games that you would give anything to see them win in.

It just sucks all the give-a-damn out of your heart when they do this kind of thing and they do it so often that you never grow to trust them. You never really believe in them the way that Cowboys and Steelers fans in the 70's or 49er's fans in the 80's (or Patriots fans now) believe in their team. You always know that they're going to screw it up somehow or go on national television and become the laughing stock of the league when they get a chance to establish that they're legitimate. It's stomach churning. It's heart breaking. It's the Houston Texans. Even when they're winning regularly they can still manage to find a way to make you slightly embarrassed of them.

These Texans appear to be another version of the Moon led Oilers. (Failing on the big stage.
 
I think we dug ourselves in a hole early. The refs didn't help. We shouldn't blame the refs, & I'm not, only the way our team responded. They acted like a young team. & while the play calling left some to be desired, if Matt would learn about ball placement, made some better throws, or if anyone but Andre could catch a ball..... this game would have been different.

I'm not going to let this game get me down. We lost. It's just another L in the L column.

But I tell you what. We're not going to win the SuperBowl running the ball. Not with this OL. We need to spend the next three weeks getting Matt into rhythm.
 
These Texans appear to be another version of the Moon led Oilers. (Failing on the big stage.

I compared the Texans to the Chargers of a few years ago in the Gameday thread. It looks like we're gonna be one of "those" teams. Teams with good talent, that put up great stats, go the playoffs for several years, and ultimately win absolutely nothing. Moon/Oilers, Tomlinson/Chargers, Reggie Miller/Pacers, even the Killer B's/Astros.
 
I think we dug ourselves in a hole early. The refs didn't help. We shouldn't blame the refs, & I'm not, only the way our team responded. They acted like a young team. & while the play calling left some to be desired, if Matt would learn about ball placement, made some better throws, or if anyone but Andre could catch a ball..... this game would have been different.

I'm not going to let this game get me down. We lost. It's just another L in the L column.

But I tell you what. We're not going to win the SuperBowl running the ball. Not with this OL. We need to spend the next three weeks getting Matt into rhythm.

My head starts hurting when I think about this team. I'm going to give it a break these next three weeks. Hopefully we get a first round bye and I can make it a whole month of no texans football.

I'll be back for the play offs and maybe I'll be rejuvinated, but Despite our nice record i haven't been a fan of what weve done this year.

This game was the tipping point. I've seen all I've needed to see from this team. I don't care what they do against the colts or Vikings. Really...could t care less...it means nothing...they could lose or win all three....

The next big game for us is in the play offs. That's the next game that matters.
 
I remember one poster on here all last week who rubbed my nose in my idea that this was going to be a potentially BAD BAD game for us.

I think that guy is here now, trying to say everything that he could have said last week...but was too busy trying to be Super Fan and trying to clown me over everything under the moon he could think to do to me.

Yeah, I'm sure of it. He's here. Typical horsecrap.
 
"There is a significant difference between Tom Brady and ANYBODY ELSE I have seen this whole year."

- Steve Young, just now in the post-game show at Foxboro.

Echo'd my statements I made tonight. The guy is all-universe, especially in December AT HOME and especially when the stakes are high and it's against a really good team.

I wish people wouldn't be as hard on our team as they are. I was at that point after the GB game this year, and all the Texans did was just reel off countless wins in many fashions--Grinded out games, blew out the Ravens, OT wins back-to-back in under 5 days. Swept jags, Swept titans. And can sweep colts, too.
 
C'mon guys!
Nobody on this board really ever believed all the hype about us having the best team in the NFL or being able to beat the Patriots did you?. And we know that if Kubiak didn't get fired after 6-10 there is no way he gets fired regardless of what happens this year. I can say this.....Texans lose first play-off game they have to actually play this year. We just don't have a super bowl caliber team. I've felt this in my gut all year.
 
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C'mon guys!
Nobody on this board really ever believed all the hype about the us having the best team in the NFl or being able to beat the Patriots did you?. And we know that if Kubiak didn't get fired after 6-10 there is no waty he gets fired regardless of what happens this year. I can say this.....Texans lose first play-off game they have to actually play this year. We just don't have a super bowl caliber team. I've felt this in my gut all year.

See thats the difference. I know we have a superbowl team, the guys just have to be put in position to win, and tonight they were not.
 
I remember one poster on here all last week who rubbed my nose in my idea that this was going to be a potentially BAD BAD game for us.

I think that guy is here now, trying to say everything that he could have said last week...but was too busy trying to be Super Fan and trying to clown me over everything under the moon he could think to do to me.

Yeah, I'm sure of it. He's here. Typical horsecrap.

This is a good post GP. Nice, short, concise. I made it all the way to the bottom of it. Good job buddy.
 
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